User talk:Aclarke42

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Proposed deletion of Andrew Clarke (Author)


The article Andrew Clarke (Author) has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

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Nomination of Andrew Clarke (Author) for deletion
The article Andrew Clarke (Author) is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Andrew Clarke (Author)


A tag has been placed on Andrew Clarke (Author), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion debate,. Under the specified criteria, where an article has substantially identical content to that of an article deleted after debate, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion," which appears inside of the speedy deletion tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. VQuakr (talk) 01:57, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Your query at Talk:Andrew Clarke (Author)
Greetings! I notice that you asked for more information about why your article is nominated for speedy deletion at Talk:Andrew Clarke (Author). Since that page could be deleted in short order, I thought it best to respond here. The page is nominated for speedy deletion because it is a recreation of a page that was deleted after a deletion discussion, located here. The result of that discussion was that the subject of this article does not meet the notability criteria outlined here and here. In addition, writing about yourself is strongly discouraged, as discussed in the content guideline WP:AUTOBIO. Please consider writing about topics unrelated to yourself. Thank you! VQuakr (talk) 04:07, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

So, in short, someone else can write about me, but not me? 05:00, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Just about. There is no blanket ban on editing an article about yourself, but per the guideline it should only be done in clear cut cases you could reasonably expect that no one would have any objections to the edits. That is not the case here, since the article has already been created and deleted. VQuakr (talk) 06:49, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

August 2011
Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. It is considered spamming and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Because Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, additions of links to Wikipedia will not alter search engine rankings. If you continue spamming, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. ''In general, please avoid editing with a conflict of interest, such as adding your name to articles and posting links to websites with which you are related to articles. Thank you.'' VQuakr (talk) 04:19, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, wasn't trying to SPAM was trying to add linkes to advise you of the credibility. Aclarke42 (talk) 04:59, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Notability is established by discussion in sources unrelated to the topic, so it is not something you can generate yourself. VQuakr (talk) 05:04, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Do you need some help?
Hi Andrew, I'm familiar with your work in publishing and am somewhat surprised to see you here. If I can help in any way with what you want to achieve in anyway, drop me a line. --Falcadore (talk) 05:00, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, was just trying to get a listing up for my body of work, but they make it very hard. Apparantly it is bad to write about yourself, so all the other businesses and people on here didn't do it themselves... yeah right! Given the Wiki is my first port of call on any research, I thought it would be good for me to have a listing. Aclarke42 (talk) 05:15, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It isn't so much that, although conflict of interest plays a part, but someone such as yourself is not considered important enough or notable enough under Wikipedia's guidelines (refer WP:AUTHOR) for Wikipedia to give you coverage. So far as I am aware of the only Australian motoring and motorsport journalists considered worthy of coverage have been David McKay and Evan Green, and they of course both had significant careers as competitors. Looking from another direction as an Australian biographer, the only one I am aware of is Peter FitzSimmons, who of course has his own fame as a Wallaby. Actually upon further research it seems there are quite a few Australian biographers present within Wikipedia. It could be that some of them likewise fail to meet the criteria as well and may at some future point be deleted as well. I must confess there is a built in bias within Wikipedia against sports biographers as opposed to those who have written about 'newsmakers'.
 * That having been said, Wikipedia isn't supposed to be a library catalogue. Nor is it supposed to be used as a method of self-promotion. Unfortunately you haven't done yourself many favours in that regard. Indeed there are few better ways to antagonise Wikipedia edittors than to behave in a manner which could be construed as using it for advertising purposes. --Falcadore (talk) 07:09, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I did additionally note that several mentions in other articles were deleted as well. Looking at how the P101 edits were deleted it was mainly because they were added to articles like Mark Skaife's for example in the form of advertising, which some Wikipedia edittors tend to take a dim view of (per WP:SPAM). However there is nothing to prevent, indeed it is encouraged, that your Skaife biography could be used to reference specific points of his career, indeed it could be said that it is encouraged. The referncing tools at Template:Cite book may assist in this regard. Looking at the one reference that was almost correctly formatted on Shane Van Gisbergen's page, a reference about being the 200th V8 Supercar driver, even using the way back machine it was very hard to establish that the p101 website had stated than Van Gisbergen was the 200th driver and purely seemed to be a link to p101 publishing's website front page, so as a reference it failed. The referencing cites have a look more or less similar to how a bibliography looks in academic publications. --Falcadore (talk) 07:25, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * You asked for plain English. "Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged". Is that plain enough? &mdash; RHaworth 08:34, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Self citing is different than self promotion
As Falcadore notes above, you can add information about topics you know well, and even cite your book as a reference (see WP:SELFCITING). VQuakr (talk) 16:07, 5 August 2011 (UTC)