User talk:Acroterion/Archive Q2 2020

re James.Shields.shieldie page
I wasn't trying to promote anything; I was only trying to show a (very) little about me after setting up my account.

No problem though.

I'll have a look around to see what is acceptable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by James.Shields.shieldie (talk • contribs) 14:28, 1 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Not a big issue, but it's bad form to link to one's personal business right from the start. We get a lot - a lot - of spam from people who are trying to promote themselves.  Acroterion   (talk)   14:31, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

cristian pirvulescu
hello, you erased my paragraph about the person. here is a reference. It is in romanian, but than again, so is the person. https://www.digi24.ro/stiri/actualitate/pirvulescu-cei-care-parasesc-carantina-sunt-considerati-infractori-medicii-care-nu-si-fac-datoria-nu-sunt-in-situatie-asemanatoare-1285453
 * You must provide references in articles, particularly if it's about something controversial, and it should show that the topic is significant and has received widespread coverage, not just a single source that somebody said something that reflects badly on them. Ideally, if it's used on the English Wikipedia, it should have received English language coverage, but that's not essential, just preferred.  Acroterion   (talk)   14:51, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry, he just sad it. The reference webpage has a video in which he has just said that. 99.9% of all statements on wiki are not sourced. And than again, we both know it is not that
 * "99.9% of all statements on wiki are not sourced" Absolutely false. Everything must be sourced, most things are (I reckon that the majority of content is well-sourced, and in core articles it's probably over 80%), and we insist on it when writing about living persons. Find references that document that this is a significant controversy, not just "he said it." Read the policy on biographies of living persons.  Acroterion   (talk)   15:40, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

rollback
why did you remove my edit 949141556 from covid-19? Feelthhis (talk) 22:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Must've been a misclick or a browser jump, sorry about that.  Acroterion   (talk)   23:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello Acroterion, I am responding about my contribution to the Naomi Klein page. The source I'd like to cite is an Op-Ed from the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/31/opinion/why-israel-is-nothing-like-apartheid-south-africa.html

I can't figure out how to link it. Could you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Addieezersky (talk • contribs) 18:29, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * In general, op-ed pieces are not suitable sources, as they're clearly labeled as opinion. At most, if they;re used, they should have in-text attribution, but in no case should expressions of opinion be inserted in Wikipedia's voice. You should avoid drawing conclusions like that.   Acroterion   (talk)   18:54, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

What?
What did I do — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.137.178.148 (talk) 15:35, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Assuming you were using that IP on March 16, you put scare quotes around "human beings" where the article referred to black people, with the edit summary "fixed a small mistake." That's not acceptable.  Acroterion   (talk)   15:52, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

upcoming student editors
Hello Acroterion, we'd talked awhile back about some students in my classes whose userpages looked a lot like bots. Spring quarter is starting up next week at my college, and I was wondering if you had a moment to take a look at the template I'm planning to add to their pages this time around. It's here: User:Stevenarntson/student_template. Secondary question: do you think any alarm bells will go off on me when I start pasting this onto 50 recently created userpages from my own account? I hope you are well, and thanks. Best, Stevenarntson (talk) 17:26, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll take a look. I don't think it would cause a stir of you placed the templates, it should be obvious what you're doing, especially if you state it in an edit summary. I'm about to join a work conference from home in a few minutes, I won't be able to look right away.  Acroterion   (talk)   17:29, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Stevenarntson (talk) 23:59, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks fine to me. Assuming your students are at Everett Community College, you might want to mention that too.  Acroterion   (talk)   00:30, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Note
For sure! Perhaps you could check the follow-up commit that I made. Where I apologized for missing the drop-down link on the table. (This issue I thought was that drop-down table had been removed maliciously instead of just being turned into a drop-down table. Had nothing to do with your edit. Sorry for misunderstanding!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davesh0 (talk • contribs) 14:52, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Most malicious edits involve the word "poop," rather than technical adjustments to drop-down tables. I have no opinion on the propriety of the table o its functioning.  Acroterion   (talk)   15:02, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Stop
Stop to helping partisan people — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nqkoi si bulgarin (talk • contribs) 17:39, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Use the article talkpage to politely describe why you think the content is incorrect, and provide sources.  Acroterion   (talk)   17:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

IP continues disruptive editing
If you have a chance would you take a look at IP range 2600:1700:D281:27D0:0:0:0:0/64 which you blocked. They are continuing the same behavior:, ,. Regards,  CBS 527 Talk 13:47, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * It would probably be good if, having made their points, everybody would lay off the tagging/untagging.  Acroterion   (talk)   14:24, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, it would be. Thanks for checking it out.  CBS 527 Talk 16:01, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

"are we really going to tag everybody this way?"
Hi.

It's my intention to cat about 10 to 20 and then leave it.

Category:Deaths from the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic's got a lot of entries. I figured those with and who survived would be as relevant.

DMBFFF (talk) 11:24, 10 April 2020 (UTC)


 * See my comment on your talkpage. Let's stick to truly notable cases, just because the deaths category is unfortunately huge, we don't need to tag everybody who's been sick.  Acroterion   (talk)   11:27, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Notice: Pseudoscience and fringe science
Hi, I received a notice that I'd been flagged as showing an interest in pseudoscience and fringe science. I wanted to check what this meant and whether it will affect my ability to continue contributing to Wikipedia.

The notice was sent shortly after my edits to NoFap, so I assume that was the cause, since many of the claims associated with that movement are indeed pseudoscientific. However, the three sources I added to the article were from reputable peer-reviewed journals: Archives of Sexual Behavior and Journal of Sexual Medicine. My intent was to improve the neutrality of the opening section.

Anyway, thanks for your time and the work you do. Eeskildsen (talk) 17:55, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * It doesn't affect anything, except to notify you that you're working in an area that has seen enough disruption to merit additional scrutiny to avoid a recurrence, and that editors will be reviewing your contributions ion that area with extra diligence.  Acroterion   (talk)   21:33, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Black kite
I did not attack Black Kite. I simply called him out on deleting my edits, and then claiming they were unsourced, when they were clearly sourced with a reliable source. I think they are probably the one attacking me, if anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajarondacespedes (talk • contribs) 18:30, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Sell that somewhere else, BK's warning was clearly warranted, and now you're blocked. If this happens again, there's a good chance it'll be permanent.  Acroterion   (talk)   20:03, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

So much for telling people not to make personal attacks.
See. Doug Weller talk 18:37, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXVIII, April 2020
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940
So, any idea who this is? Not for a single minute do I believe they are a brand new editor. Unfortunately after the Bbb23 debacle I am afraid to ask a CU for a check on suspected socks unless I have a damned good idea who they are. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:51, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * No, but given the low level of clue and impulse control I think it's somebody very young who needs some time to gain a better level of self-awareness. If they don't self revert that BLP edit in six minutes, I'm going to place a short block. I thought they said they were going to bed.  Acroterion   (talk)   02:54, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm going to extend a massive amount of AGF and assume I am wrong (for the moment) about their being a sock. Let's see what they do with some ROPE. I have closed the ANI discussion. That was a giant waste of cyber ink. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


 * For what it’s worth, I do not believe they have any other previous accounts on Wikipedia besides the main one and the two Good Article socks from last week.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  03:00, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I think you're right. And I don't like to pick on young editors - I've encountered several editors like this, and some of them have worked through their stubborn phase and been productive editors. But we do need to let them know we're serious.  Acroterion   (talk)   03:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. This guy has enough admins breathing down his neck. I am going to step back and let you both take the lead on this. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Crikey. So much for that, if anything we've been excessively patient. Somebody else can deal with the silly unblock request.  Acroterion   (talk)   03:11, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Unblock request declined. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:21, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, we all AGF'd until it hurt. Some people want an argument.  Acroterion   (talk)   03:41, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * OMG. I need a drink. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:43, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I think I lost count, but I think it was a dozen admins, possibly a record outside of an arbitration proceeding. I'm going to go sit with the dogs and tell them about the Three Bears - there has been a bear in the neighborhood, and I think it's nearby tonight, they're stirred up.  Acroterion   (talk)   03:48, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm about to call it a night as well. This whole thing has been simply bizarre. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:50, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

I was also curious how many admins have been involved with this guy in the past couple days. Just for the hell of it, I tried to find them all. 18, by my count, but I could be missing one or two. — { Cryptic  Canadian }  05:00, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Eagles247 - Of course.
 * HJ Mitchell - Admin shopping victim
 * Jauerback - Admin shopping victim
 * MelanieN - Admin shopping victim, received insults
 * Iridescent - Denied unblock, advice
 * Boing! said Zebedee - Revoked email access, Gracious unblock agreement
 * NinjaRobotPirate - Good faith sockpuppetry save
 * ST47 - Checkuser, 1st indef.
 * Yamla - Declined unblock
 * HickoryOughtShirt?4 - Advice, ANI
 * ToBeFree - Denied unblock
 * Ad Orientem - Admin shopping victim, ANI, Denied unblock, Sock suspicions, Final indef
 * Callanecc - Admin shopping victim, Denied unblock
 * Elmidae - ANI
 * Acroterion - "What are you doing?", x2, Revoked talk page access
 * Michael Greiner - Had his RFPP note removed
 * Deepfriedokra - Curious
 * Newyorkbrad - Attempted to deny unblock


 * Might've not been the most productive thing you could've done but it was certainly entertaining to read . Now just wait for the emails to flood in. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 05:38, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


 * FYI this. He sent me a couple of emails asking to have the block lifted or an expiration date to replace the indef. I am standing by six months before considering a WP:SO but thought I'd let you know. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:31, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree with the SO.  Acroterion   (talk)   00:36, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

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China Section Reverts advice needed and help - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_xenophobia_and_racism_related_to_the_2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_pandemic
Hello Acroterion, could you do me a big favour?

I am new to Wikipedia editing, the learning curve is steep, I am trying to follow the instructions on the Talk Page.

I really want to balance out this article by including what is happening in China to foreigners and especially the African community right now. Anyone reading this article will be extremely surprised top find virtually no mention of what is happening in China to foreigners and especially the African Community.

I know that before I can get the article section edited properly to Wikipedia's taste, I will probably be dead as it will constantly be reverted due to copyright, not constructive, wrong format or whatever other reason may be.

Could someone else kindly take the work that I have done over days and tailor it so that it can be added to the section in the appropriate wikipedia fashion? That would be a fantastic help for someone new to Wikipedia and by observing the editing process of my contribution I will surely learn to edit better in the future.

Here it is:



Recent incidents of extreme racism towards the African community are highlighted in an official Protest Letter of African Ambassadors in Beijing published on April 13th 2020 by frontpageafricaonline, in which they: “strongly protest the ongoing forceful testing and quarantine and maltreatment of African Nationals in China in general and in Guangdong Province in particular” The African Ambassadors reported that they had received disquieting reports of inhuman treatments meted out to Africans particularly in Guangdong Province and enumerate some of them, as follows: ● African nationals ejected including Togolese, Nigerians, and Benenois from their hotels in the middle of the night only because they are Africans; ● A group of African students studying in Sun-Yat Sen University in Guangzhou were made to undergo the Nucleic Acid Test, in spite of the fact that they had no travel history within the stated period. ● Selective testing of African students while their non African colleagues are left out. ● There were cases of African men married to Chinese ladies and they were demanded to take the COVID-19 test and their Chinese families left out. In some cases the men were pulled out of their families and quarantined in hotels alone. ● Forced evictions of Africans from their various apartments and thrown into the streets even those with infant children. ● Seizure of passports of African nationals in violation of international practices and conventions ● Persistent harassment and humiliation of African nationals by subjecting them to unwarranted medical examinations after testing negative for the COVID-19, and forced into quarantine, irrespective of their negative status; ● Threats of revocation of visas, arrest, detention and deportation of African legal migrants for no cogent reason which infringes on their human rights” Source: Billybostickson (talk) 23:48, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


 * just so you're aware, only a fraction of that text could/would be added to the article. I can try to add some, but I don't want you to be disappointed if it's only a small amount.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 23:53, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Well, {User: EvergreenFir| ] thank you very much for whatever you can do, it is very much appreciated. I understand the issues regarding copyright more clearly now but I am not well enough to spend so much time and energy to complete this daunting task currently. Billybostickson (talk) 00:00, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm Confused
Hey, Thanks for being so kind as to archive my page. I've found some punctuation errors and have made the realization that it would've been smarter to put the citation on "is featured" rather than "The Triflers". But even with that, I have questions when it comes to the rules of citations and notability.

I don't get the claim that using The Triflers as a source for a section specifically about the portrayal and Fate of York Community Highschool, in The Triflers is an unreliable source. To me, It sounds like a very reliable because you're getting the juicy information you want right from the source of the river. I think that's a primary source.

Also, I'm confused at the need for there to be a 3rd party/independent source since the book refers to the school by name (page 273, word row 10) and refers to it being set in Elmhurst. If the book (specifically Mario) tells the reader that it specifically takes place at York Community High School and It's a part of the story, is there really a need for a 3rd party to verify it? Wouldn't citing the book just do the job? I mean on the Wikipedia page for Benard Werber's Empire of the Ants there's no citation from a third party saying his book takes place in Paris, besides from the fact that it says it in the book.

On the topic of notability, my blurb about York High in The Triflers is worthy of notice/notable because it is the only instance York Community High School ever being featured in a piece of entertainment media.

With Thanks, LillyoftheBracken
 * Your statement that You're getting the juicy information you want right from the source of the river is precisely the issue. Wikipedia does not want "juicy information." We want to publish only what is verifiable in reliable sources. A self-published novel is not a reliable source. If an external reliable source has commented on the fact that the novel is set at the high school, that would potentially be includable. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 05:39, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * What NBSB says. Wikipedia sets notability through the use of secondary sourcing to major academic and journalistic media, not by personal analysis of self published books to mention what amounts to trivia.  Acroterion   (talk)   11:22, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Article deletion
Hi Acroterion,

You deleted my page on Trilion Quality Systems almost a year ago. I was hoping to give it another shot I have gotten more reference links and also stated I am an employee of the company. Do you think I will have a better shot now? Any help is greatly appreciated.

Many Thanks, Ben Eisdorfer Beneisdorfer (talk) 17:48, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I could restore it to draft space so you can work on it, providing you strictly observe WP:COI and undertake to avoid anything that even looks like advertising. Was any of it copied from an external source, which would preclude my doing that?  Acroterion   (talk)   01:27, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Campbell County Rockpile Museum
Hello Acroterion,

I see that you have begun, edited, or did substantial work on many wikis for Wyoming museums. I believe there should be one for the Campbell County Rockpile Museum in Gillette, Wyoming. Do you have any interest in starting this page? I can not as I have a conflict of interest. Thank you.

AshtrayRobert


 * I'll take a look at it and see if it meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Do you have any independent sources to support notability? We can't just work with simple existence, it has to have received some coverage in independent media. Can you show that it has been covered beyond the Gillette newspaper? I 've found a few sources, but they don't make a great case for notability.  Acroterion   (talk)   01:29, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Feel like an LTA or someone's sock. -- Deep fried okra  User talk:Deepfriedokra20:17, 17 April 2020 (UTC)


 * I thought they were fishy too. Monketorn's had their problems, but they've learned and persevered, and a sample of their edits looks reasonable.  Acroterion   (talk)   20:22, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I've asked for an explanation of an edit summary I found particularly interesting. -- Deep fried okra  User talk:Deepfriedokra 20:27, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * That one got my attention, I found it interesting. If they're not a native English speaker, the distinction between active and passive forms might be elusive - "I will do" versus "I will have somebody do."  Acroterion   (talk)   20:48, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I just looked at the UTRS appeal. I would like to think that if I was operating good and bad hand accounts I'd be better at it. At least there are few admins more patient than I - I guess you're referring to the 18-admin convergence from earlier this week. I thought I'd used up all my charity on that one.  Acroterion   (talk)   21:04, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * might be a candidate.  Acroterion   (talk)   21:35, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Same style. I thought you were very patient in dealing with this user. Oh. That user name screams out at me. Missed the convergence. Been busy, -- Deep fried okra  User talk:Deepfriedokra 22:33, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

RfC
Hello. Please share your thoughts on this. With regards. Bionic (talk) 12:05, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Truth is NOT defametory
In regards to your revizing my edit on Yamiche. Nothing I said was false or defametory. I admit it wasn't the nicest but everyone should be aware of the risks of not taking care of your personal health. Those risks are hieghtened during this pandemic. Most, not all, of those at higher risk CAN take steps to correct their health issues. Be healthy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.68.43 (talk) 22:10, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Do anything of the sort again, and I will block this IP for a long time. No trolling..  Acroterion   (talk)   22:17, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Article Request
write an article about Indian Blogger Jayasurya Mayilsamy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.51.240.147 (talk) 09:27, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you'd like to try an article using the WP:AFC process. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:38, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Confused about this block
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1700:BF52:2DF0:DC3D:EDE7:27EE:851 Why indefinite this IP for just 1 edit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsla1337 (talk • contribs) 17:34, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * That was a mistake - I would normally block that sort of obvious anti-Semitic Jew-tagging for 48 hours. Now unblocked, thanks for noticing.  Acroterion   (talk)   21:55, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

It was a mistake I put information about my company deals instead of keeping it nor mal information of the history and trajectory it was a mistake I didn’t know I couldn’t do please unblock Hollywood Pictures Films Alejandro D Carlo (talk) 22:47, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

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User:Roxy the dog
Hi. I disagree with your closing the discussion about User:Roxy the dog. Will you reconsider? Thanks. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 04:35, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Feel free to disagree with my decision, but it won't alter my view that re-opening the topic did nothing to help the encyclopedia, and in the context of Roxy's present circumstances was especially badly judged. Attempting to extract a pound of flesh at all costs is reprehensible.  Acroterion   (talk)   14:11, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * If Acroterion should accede to your request and reopen the discussion, then I will reclose it, and I will not reconsider. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:42, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the close. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:27, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
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Fuller
Please take time to read the wikipedia sites as well as other outside sources about the geodesic dome, We are responsible for portraying history accurately and not popularized. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodesic_dome

Please check your references and YOU will see that fuller was an intelligence agent during WWI where he first came across the german patent from 26 years earlier. Fuller stole this and falsely claimed it has his own. Please do not change this acurate edit without sources. Jeff — Preceding unsigned comment added by CeNice (talk • contribs) 01:57, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Fuller
By virtue the Buckminster Fuller was granted a US patent he claimed to have been the original inventor. He was not. This was a false claim and should be stated as such giving actual credit to Walther Bauersfeld

The Constitution of the United States gives Congress the power to act laws relating to patents, in Article I, section 8, which reads "Congress shall have power . . . to promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries."

Fuller falsely claimed and was falsely awarded a patent for a design that had been in existance for 26 years.. he lied.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CeNice (talk • contribs) 02:07, 6 May 2020 (UTC)


 * The article makes it clear that he didn't invent it and that he didn't credit the concept properly. See WP:RGW - you don't need to apply your own color to his sin of omission. You can help the article by assisting us in referencing the paragraph I quoted.  Acroterion   (talk)   02:36, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

source
You have to claim to be the original inventor'designer to apply for and receive a US patent, this is not opinion. Fuller's claim to be the designer was indeed false. I.m a little lost as to why you think this is opinion as every source, including Wikipedia, clearly states the geodome was designed and built prior to Fuller's patent, or any of his designs.

https://www.uspto.gov/patents-getting-started/general-information-concerning-patents

Patent Laws The Constitution of the United States gives Congress the power to enact laws relating to patents, in Article I, section 8, which reads "Congress shall have power . . . to promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries." Under this power Congress has from time to time enacted various laws relating to patents. The first patent law was enacted in 1790. The patent laws underwent a general revision which was enacted July 19, 1952, and which came into effect January 1, 1953. It is codified in Title 35, United States Code. Additionally, on November 29, 1999, Congress enacted the American Inventors Protection Act of 1999 (AIPA), which further revised the patent laws. See Public Law 106-113, 113 Stat. 1501 (1999). The patent law specifies the subject matter for which a patent may be obtained and the conditions for patentability. The law establishes the United States Patent and Trademark Office to administer the law relating to the granting of patents and contains various other provisions relating to patents.

The company that actually paid for the first dome is still operating in germany today....:ong before Fuller's patent and design. https://www.zeiss.com/corporate/int/about-zeiss/history/technological-milestones/planetariums.html

You have the right to lock people out but you seem misinformed on how patents work.. Perhaps you should read up.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by CeNice (talk • contribs) 03:07, 6 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I understand how patents work: please understand how Wikipedia works . You need a specific reference that states what you are writing, not your personal interpretation of patent law, however obvious it is to you. Somebody must already have stated, in print, what you're deriving from legal interpretation. See WP:V, WP:NOR, and WP:RS. Everything must be sourced.  Acroterion   (talk)   03:10, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Request
I need to request you that please delete the revision as RD3 as that revision was purely disruptive or delete as the reason WP:RD2 as it also violates a biography of a living person or delete as the reason "Vandalism" because that revision is not supposed to be visible. Thanks. 2405:204:1406:C440:0:0:2A9F:F8A0 (talk) 12:39, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * It's obnoxious vandalism, but it isn't really eligible for revision deletion.  Acroterion   (talk)   12:45, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Closing
That was premature and dismissive. A few participants raised serious concerns about Drmies' behavior and you disregarded all of us. 68.197.116.79 (talk) 23:49, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't want to extend this, but I agree to an extent. Drmies threatened a user with a block while he was involved in a content dispute. As an admin that is unacceptable and should not happen. Sir Joseph (talk) 23:56, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Administrators are not prohibited from warning people with whom they disagree, and are not immune to confusion or exasperation. Demands that someone be skinned are over the top, and again, no admin tools were used against the IP.  Acroterion   (talk)   00:02, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not talking about the warning on his talkpage, that is a template. I'm talking about the warning on the article talkpage where Drmies says, "I will be happy to block you for trolling..." that is not the same thing as issuing a warning. Further, your close says the IP is extremely argumentative, I think it's very wrong to call someone argumentative based on having to explain themselves at AN. Looking at the article's talkpage, if I had to weigh behavior, it would not be 50/50, and Drmies is an admin. Your close should have reflected that. Sir Joseph (talk) 00:08, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * As several participants noted, that was not ideal, and Drmies has been amply aware of it. The complaint was made at great length, with increasing levels of shrillness, and wasn't leading anywhere helpful for the complainant, who was starting to face demands for a boomerang block. The kindest thing for all concerned was to close. The IP has been editing in contentious areas for long enough that they can't declare that they're subject to WP:BITE, and this all happened two weeks ago.  Acroterion   (talk)   00:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

I asked for three things:

1. I asked for Drmies to be censured for his behavior, so as to discourage him from repeating it. You prematurely closed the discussion, preventing this. In essence, you told him it's ok to bite noobs.

2. I asked that he apologize, again so that he is less likely to repeat his bad behavior. Instead, he made excuses and blamed me for what he did. This means he's just going to keep it up.

3. I asked that he remove the protection from his talk page, which is what the policy requires. I have no idea why you're permitting him to continue violating that rule.

That's why I'm unhappy. 68.197.116.79 (talk) 01:22, 12 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Lengthy, heated demands for censure and apologies two weeks after the fact don't create much in the way of an actionable complaint. You were getting an increasing amount of blowback, and you were starting to repeat yourself. No admin tools were being abused. Is anything going on now? I don't see it. Talkpage protection was imposed by another admin, it could probably be removed, but I'm aware of the reasons why it was done, and of the detailed threats that were being made by a long-term abuser who is still active. Having seen the content that was oversighted, and knowing who made the threats, Drmies' reluctance to change protection is completely understandable.  Acroterion   (talk)   01:52, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Feel free to find any place where I claimed he abused "admin tools". Good luck with that. You're fighting a straw man and that means you've already lost. 68.197.116.79 (talk) 04:52, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Then you're trying to prosecute something that's not actionable, and you should not have used that AN header, but "an admin was mean to me two weeks ago" might have had less force. Please read the advice at User talk:Ezhao02 from experienced editors. Arguing with everybody who disagrees with you or who tries to counsel you generally doesn't help your case.  Acroterion   (talk)   11:40, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Drmies wasn't "mean"; they were abusive. They falsely accused me of vandalism and threatened to block me for it.
 * I don't really care whether they agree with me. I do care when they slander and threaten me. The fact that you don't says a lot about you, none of it good. You people stick together, protecting the guilty. 68.197.116.79 (talk) 13:50, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Barnstar
+1. Agree. Well deserved. Antandrus (talk) 16:46, 13 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you both. In real life, I'm not feeling very patient, with proposals and deadlines and little time for much else, apart from trying to ensure that our people are worrying about deadlines six months hence.  Acroterion   (talk)   00:26, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXIX, May 2020
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Leaving
BYE BYE Coal town guy  (talk)   21:50, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

O'Connor Plating Works Disaster
A new page that might interest you. I note I ought not to have capitalized the final word. Is there an easy fix? --&#39;&#39;Paul, in Saudi&#39;&#39; (talk) 13:40, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I moved it to O'Connor Plating Works disaster and cleaned up a couple of things.  Acroterion   (talk)   14:15, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Edit stacking vandal
Hey Acroterion, hope you are well. I saw you partially blocked. You might need to extend that to a full block. This is most likely a well-known LTA who has been vandalizing WP:TFA. They edit stack until they have extended confirmed and then vandalize different articles. In addition, they are abusing their talk page access as well. --   LuK3      (Talk)   21:56, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Already done, and I have a good idea who they are and where they want to go.  Acroterion   (talk)   21:58, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Great, thank you. Appreciate your fast response. --   LuK3      (Talk)   22:00, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Baltimore I-70 edit
I want to revert that, but it would be so pedantic to do so. Technically I-70 DOES extend into the city limits, BARELY. The Park and Ride where I-70 ends/starts is just inside the city/county line (and is managed by Baltimore DOT). It's literally about 500-600 feet of highway though so while it technically goes into the city proper it's so little that I don't know if it matters. RickinBaltimore (talk) 12:28, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've driven that section past Social Security, you're right, the vestige sticks a little bit into the city, I'd forgotten that. I think there's a city limits sign just before it turns into a street. Functionally, I would argue it's not in the city, but I could argue it either way.  Acroterion   (talk)   13:11, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * If we are trying to be exact to the nth degree it is, but like I said it's the end of a park and ride lot and the very very beginning of the highway itself. On a map it is, but functionally, no it isn't you are right. Like I said, it's pedantic to revert it, and you could easily say it ends at the city/county line. RickinBaltimore (talk) 16:22, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You have to leave the city to get out of the parking lot/stub, and the Security Boulevard/Cooks Lane exit is 100 yards into Baltimore County. I believe the thing I reverted was in the infobox, where people try to load the summaries up with too much nuance. Given that the article is about the city, not the interstate, I think we should leave I-70 out of it. I think I must have seen the city limits sign on Forest Park Ave - the last time I was there was in January.
 * There wouldn't have been much left of the park once the interstate had pushed through. One of these days the city needs to figure out what to do about the freeway gulch farther on. Acroterion   (talk)   17:35, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Ahhh yes the Highway to Nowhere. A different story for a different day. RickinBaltimore (talk) 17:43, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Not only the Highway to Nowhere, but it's nowhere at either end, no small accomplishment. There are also those alarming ramps on the elevated section of 95 south of the harbor that go nowhere  Acroterion   (talk)   17:59, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * All part of the proposed highway plan in the 60s that got shut down, partially to Barbara Mikulski fighting in Fells Point. There's more north of the harbor just past Eastern Avenue as well. RickinBaltimore (talk) 18:27, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Elena Kagan
Hi, thanks for your help on Elena Kagan. However, I noticed you semi-protected the page for only three days when the page was previously protected for one year and was vandalized almost immediately after that protection expired. Shouldn't the protection be longer than a year, if not indefinite? Sutfeld (talk) 23:52, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The important thing is to get it protected now from the IP hopping vandal. I'll review the length once I've dealt with a couple of other things that are going on - I agree that another year is inevitable.  Acroterion   (talk)   23:54, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Are you sure you want to go with another year instead of something longer? One year didn't work last time. Sutfeld (talk) 00:11, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I rarely use a term beyond a year, we should revisit these things from time to time. This will at least get us to the next term.  Acroterion   (talk)   00:24, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

202.93.153.* on children's TV
Hello. I see that you recently removed several contributions by 202.93.153.247, including article hijacking and unsourced edits to children's TV series. I've just done a similar job on 202.93.153.240. Nearby addresses such as .225 and .227 have similar recent contributions. Should we be doing something more to deter this editor? Certes (talk) 12:13, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I live in north ossetia. that's what we called it- the North Ossetian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the North Ossetian Union under the All-Union Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the People's Revolution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.221.82.90 (talk) 19:51, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Edit warring
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Please don't start edit wars across multiple articles. If you have sources to back up your claims please present them on talk. -174.225.135.250 (talk) 11:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Don't use articles for editorial comment, and don't commingle ethnicity with nationality - Jewish and Marxist aren't nationalities. This kind of edit is generally considered disruptive, and unless Urban was a Maoist, "far-left" isn't appropriate either. As far as other articles are concerned, as an administrator I check your other contributions and had concerns about them too.   Acroterion   (talk)   12:53, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

external link
I put a link to a website that I run to help people the world over (average 250,000 views per year) and it was probably with good reason taken out but you have the foliage network in there that serves a similar purpose. I've been on CBS Sunday Morning, the BBC and PBS, being interviewed for helping people explore New England... I would ask that this be looked at again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Foliage (talk • contribs) 15:57, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * as the COI notice says, please don't add external links to sites where you're involved. I've removed the others, since they don't really add anything or meet the standard of encyclopedic content required for external links - they're more like tourism promotional sites.  Acroterion   (talk)   23:05, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Revision deletion request
I request that you please remove this edit, as a IP hopping anon hurled a personal attack at me on Han Chinese. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯  talk  08:42, 28 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I'm not a steward.  Acroterion   (talk)   02:22, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

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User:182.1.60.106
I wonder if this person were trying to vandalise my semiprotected userpage and ended up being sent to my talk page? Thank you :-) Nyttend (talk) 22:43, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Probably.  Acroterion   (talk)   23:15, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

IP: 107.242.117.5‎]
You had to rev del an edit by this IP on Atomwaffen Division. Looking at their talk page (lots'o warnings) and their contribs, this looks like a vandalism-only IP that might need a longish time out. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:33, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, they're not doing well, and they managed to defame Andy Ngo in the revdel'd edit. I'm keeping an eye on them.  Acroterion   (talk)   20:02, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi bro
I need a move, Cedric Doumbe to Cédric Doumbé, with French diacritics. Thanks!
 * Just do on the page.   Acroterion   (talk)   02:24, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Nothing happens unfortunately. I must move it to Cédric Doumbé. .karellian-24 (talk • contribs) 15:56, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Per WP:TSC, diacritics in titles are generally discouraged, but it's not an ironclad rule. I've swapped the redirects.  Acroterion   (talk)   15:07, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot, mate! I appreciate. .karellian-24 (talk • contribs) 16:55, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Scientific racism and racial policies in Brazil
Hello Acroterion. First of all I acknowledge your zeal in keeping wikipedia a good and serious tool for the diffusion of knowledge. I think you and Mr Olly are acting without making the effort of reviewing the contents that you are deleting! I AM NOT JUST CITING MYSELF BUT I AM ADDING A LOT OF HISTORICAL SOURCES WRITTEN BY OTHER AUTHORS. IN ADDITION, I AM SORRY BUT IF YOU GO TO PLACES SUCH AS GOOGLE SCHOLAR AND OTHER SCIENTIFIC LIBRARIES, YOU WILL NOT FIND ANY OTHER SCIENTIFIC ARTICLES WRITTEN IN ENGLISH AND DEALING EXPLICITLY WITH "SCIENTIFIC RACISM IN BRAZIL" In this sense, I cannot understand how come you just deleted the section on scientific racism in Brazil that I added to the wikipedia without checking that THE WHOLE SECTION was entirely based on a doubled blind checked paper in one of the most prestigious scientific journals in the History of Biology such as the Journal of the History of Biology, AND QUOTING MANY WORKS WHICH ARE NOT MY OWN WORK!. All the content in the section I included and the references I quoted were product of serious research and were published in prestigious scientific journals, all these contents had been reviewed by experts before publication. My interest was not self citing but just supply wikipedia with good scientific contents in an aspect that had not received any attention within the entry "scientific racism",. i.e. scientific racism in Brazil and its ideological consequences in this south-american country. I hope that you reconsider your attitude. I apologize if I have mistaken the way or the appropriate forum to answer to you but I didn't find any other way. Best regards. Juan M.S. Arteaga — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juan M.S. Arteaga (talk • contribs) 21:11, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You're citing yourself, adding </nowiki}}  Your next stop should be the talkpage, where you can make a case for inclusion - other editors should have the opportunity to review your edits and your sources, including your paper, before you insert it. Self-cites should only be used through consensus, and when your edits are contested, you must always use the talkpage to develop a consensus for inclusion. Please do that, instead of edit-warring, which is what you're doing right now.   Acroterion   (talk)   21:17, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Moving articles over redirect
Hey, Acroterion! In Talk:Operation Mockingbird, we are beginning a discussion of possibly changing the name of the article to Project Mockingbird; however, Project Mockingbird redirects to Operation Mockingbird. My recollection is that we cannot just copy and past the information from one to the other because of some Wikipedia rules regarding attribution. If there is consensus to do this, are you able to help with that? Thanks! - Location (talk) 17:26, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You can copy material from one article to another, as long as you note it appropriately in the edit summary and maybe leave an explanation of what you did on the respective talkpages. In other words, it has to be attributed when you do it. See WP:MERGE for more. I'm tied up right now in RL, but can help later if you need it.  Acroterion   (talk)   17:48, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

You falsely removed my edit
You removed my edit without reason, in Alpo Marttinen page about his sons death. While findagrave isnt in itself reliable, in the wiki page of afore mentioned site it says it can be used. And there is concrete evidence in the findagrave site, so next time maybe dont jump to conclusions but check the source cited. Amisderbi (talk) 19:11, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * In general, the consensus on Findagrave is that it's not a satisfactory source. It's a crowdsourced site with no editorial control or fact-checking, and such sources are rarely seen as acceptable. If there is an obituary or other published source on Findagrave, that's what should be cited, not the Findagrave entry.   Acroterion   (talk)   19:30, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * By the way, the Finnish Air Force flag reference you added looks reasonable to me, although some editors might not entirely agree, and it's an interesting bit of information.  Acroterion   (talk)   19:32, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Need another help
Hello again,

Can you please restore this page into my Sandbox? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Ostrovanu I will keep it here until it will pass the rules. I need to have it since it is valuable information and this kickboxer is turning into a beast since 2018. .karellian-24 (talk • contribs) 23:21, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Done, it's here . Make sure you've got sufficient notability, and that you've addressed the deletion discussion before you try for article space.  Acroterion   (talk)   22:30, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Revdel
I think this qualifies for a revdel. – 2 . O . Boxing  16:54, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Done,and warned.  Acroterion   (talk)   16:58, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Lobbying and Wikipedia
Your actions will be reported. As i said journalists ask questions about moderation of Wikipedia. They report activity of firms on Wikipedia for their clients. Ask a question to a user to know if he is paid to modify an article on wikipedia is not a personal attack. It is a reality. https://www.numerama.com/business/626945-comment-des-agences-de-e-reputation-ont-modifie-des-articles-wikipedia-pour-leurs-clients.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rebecca jones (talk • contribs) 00:53, 9 June 2020 (UTC)


 * It is a personal attack when you make unsupported accusations against other editors because you disagree with them, or because they don't agree with your agenda. You're about to be indefinitely blocked. if you don't stop that behavior.  Acroterion   (talk)   01:00, 9 June 2020 (UTC)


 * :: Acroterion : It is not a personal attack. Each time i reported news from famous european newspapers about Assange, same users drop them. I am surprised the first time because Le Monde is very famous in France. But when i reported decision of a UK judge in famous newspapers about Assange again same users drop it. Same things for the questions of a dutch senator about Assange, again they drop it. So I ask me why these same users drop all european reactions about Assange. And I saw these users spend all their times on wikipedia like you.

Journalists have reported the lack of neutrality of Wikipedia administrator because these administrators are paid by firms to drop or add informations (https://www.numerama.com/business/626945-comment-des-agences-de-e-reputation-ont-modifie-des-articles-wikipedia-pour-leurs-clients.html)

So I ask question to Wikipedia, why do you drop all europeans reactions and decision of justice in Europe about Assange published in famous newspaper ? You cannot drop them and report only reactions of United States. Assange is in Europe and the decision of an indicment depends only of Europe, not United States.

I am very shocked that Wikipedia accept you as administrator because you do not respect neutrality rules of Wikipedia, and you do not respect laws in Europe.

Again, journalists will be very interested by your last action because you drop these informations whereas they are published during several months on wikipedia.

« Reactions to the US indictment Several jurists, politicians, associations, academics and campaigners viewed the arrest of Assange as an attack on freedom of the press and international law.[378][379][380] The Reporters Without Borders said Assange's arrest could "set a dangerous precedent for journalists, whistle-blowers, and other journalistic sources that the US may wish to pursue in the future."[381] Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch, wrote that Assange's prosecution for publishing leaked documents is "a major threat to global media freedom".[382] Independent United Nations rights experts such as Agnes Callamard said "the arrest of Wikileaks co-founder Julian Assange by police in the United Kingdom, after the Ecuadorian Government decided to stop granting him asylum in their London embassy, exposed him to the risk of serious human rights violations, if extradited to the United States".[383] Reactions in the UK and the European Union WikiLeaks was recognised as a media organisation in 2017 by a UK tribunal, contradicting public assertions to the contrary by some US officials, and possibly supporting Assange's efforts to oppose his extradition to the United States.[384][385][386][387] This is why the Dutch senator Tiny Kox asked the Council of Europe's commissioner for human rights, Dunja Mijatovic, whether the arrest of Assange and his possible extradition to the US are in line with the criteria of the European Convention on Human Rights, because Assange can benefit from the protection of the right to freedom of expression and information according the Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights.[388] In 2019, British Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn said that Assange had revealed "evidence of atrocities in Iraq and Afghanistan" and his extradition to the United States "should be opposed by the British government".[381] In February 2020 Corbyn again praised Assange, demanding a halt to the extradition. Prime Minister Boris Johnson responded vaguely with "it’s obvious that the rights of journalists and whistleblowers should be upheld and this government will continue to do that.”[389][390] Eva Joly, magistrate and MEP, said that "the arrest of Julian Assange is an attack on freedom of expression, international law and right to asylum".[391] Sevim Dagdelen, a German Bundestag MP who specialises in international law and press law, describes Assange's arrest as "an attack on independent journalism" and says that he "is today seriously endangered".[392][393] Dick Marty, a former state prosecutor of Ticino and rapporteur on the CIA's secret prisons for the Council of Europe, considers the arrest of whistleblowers "very shocking".[394][395] Several well-known Swiss jurists have asked the Federal Council to grant asylum to the founder of Wikileaks because he is threatened with extradition to the United States, which in the past "silenced whistleblowers".[396][397] The French Union of Journalists (Syndicat national des journalistes (CGT) [fr]), said that "the dissemination of documents or information of public interest" could not be considered a legal offence. The union called on Britain "to refuse the extradition of Julian Assange to the United States and to release him."[398] In a letter, several French Union of Journalists (Syndicat national des journalistes (CGT) [fr]) and (Syndicat national des journalistes (CFDT) [fr]) asked Emmanuel Macron to enforce Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights. According them, "Faced with threats to Julian Assange's health and at the risk of seeing him sentenced to life imprisonment, we are saying loud and clear, with the IFJ (Fédération internationale des journalistes) that 'journalism is not a crime'". They add: Julian Assange denounced in his publications war crimes condemned by the Geneva Convention. Today, he is the one we would like to imprison, we would like to silence. ... We consider this case one of the most serious attacks on the freedom of the press, against public freedoms within the EU. The IFJ, the French unions and their Australian counterparts have launched a motion to seize this serious case the UN Human Rights Council and the European Parliament and the Council of Europe.[399] The yellow vests movement called for Assange's release.[400][401][402]

Other reactions Former Ecuadorian president Rafael Correa condemned Assange's arrest.[406] Bolivian President Evo Morales also condemned it.[333] Maria Zakharova, spokesperson for the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs condemned the indictment.[413][333] In January 2020, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe voted to oppose Assange’s extradition to the US.[414] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rebecca jones (talk • contribs) 09:38, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Rename request.
I will use "offroader" as my username and will delete all info involving me personally. Thanks I will try my best to edit the page as necessary. MarocAtlas Gibraltar 4x4 Club (talk) 22:36, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Plwease do that at the link I provided - check to see if it's already used first. Don't keep copying the unblock template - you're unlocked now.  Acroterion   (talk)   22:41, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello
Sorry to bother you again, could you please send to my sandbox Cristian Ristea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristian_Ristea ? It was deleted in 2014 but since then fought for a world title, was a runner-up of an important heavyweight tournament. So he passes. I might recreate his page, thanks! You are a helpful admin, I appreciate. .karellian-24 (talk • contribs) 22:09, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Done, you can find it here: ]  Acroterion   (talk)   21:12, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

talk page access by LTA
Please remove talk page access from User talk:125.165.56.205‎. Chris Troutman ( talk ) 17:26, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks for the note.  Acroterion   (talk)   17:27, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXX, June 2020
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RevDel
I think this diff may justify a RevDel. Thanks! DonIago (talk) 20:01, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hell yes.  Acroterion   (talk)   21:55, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! DonIago (talk) 23:33, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Gu64rk g
Hi, Acroterion. Although I was mistaken when I said that Gu64rk g was the same person who had posted the previous RFAM nonsense, I think that was a righteous block. This is a brand new user, just created today yesterday, who immediately became a SPA targeting that article only and that one point. If he isn’t the same person as the named user who originally posted the conspiracy theory (and he probably isn’t), he may very well be one of the IPs who agreed with it. -- MelanieN (talk) 21:03, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I was going to warn them again, but the way they're trying to obfuscate their earlier edits convinced me that they're not editing in good faith, and it was time to get it over with. Their unblock request is more of the same.  Acroterion   (talk)   21:09, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Killer whale attacks
I will get back to you in the morning but I have found something that cites a source, I believe I missourced something. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.55.96.89 (talk) 02:05, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * When you get the sourcing put it on the talkpage with a discussion of what you want to change and why. That's always best anyway.  Acroterion   (talk)   02:09, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Disruptive IP
Not sure if you received my ping on the IP's talk page, but since you are the blocking admin who's familiar with the IP's edits, thought I should let you know that after my post, they are continuing with the same disruptive behavior on another BLP article just an hour ago: then reverted by another editor  telling them to cite sources and left them yet another talk page warning. Thanks, Some1 (talk) 02:58, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I've blocked the range for a couple of weeks. They're mixing OK edits with unsourced assertions.  Acroterion   (talk)   14:32, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

LTA: UK Kennedy/Lincoln/Titanic IP
You have blocked a bunch of IPs over the years labeling them "LTA:UK Kennedy/Lincoln/Titanic IP".

I'm looking at the recent contributions of 80.47.46.213 and 80.2.20.67, thinking the person may be active again. April saw the actions of Special:Contributions/2.97.27.181. And last December it was Special:Contributions/78.146.96.103.

You may well be the person most familiar with this vandal's style. What do you think of these IPs? Binksternet (talk) 05:30, 25 June 2020 (UTC)


 * They fit the geographical pattern, interests and style of that LTA. I thought I'd seen them recently too. They appear to have matured in recent years and are better at staying under the radar than before, they had been less visible or quiet for a couple of years. They seems to be associated with the Southend area and had edited from South Essex College IPs. The Halloween movie franchise and Victor Hugo-related topics were big too., along with Pearl Harbor and 9/11. I'll look more closely.  Acroterion   (talk)   12:08, 25 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Some repeated attempts by this person to add material to a few articles including stuff about Midway, Flight 93 and Dunkirk have involved the IPs listed below. Binksternet (talk) 16:42, 13 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Sorry, it's taken a little while to get to this, with a couple of deadlines and work emergencies. Rangeblocks don't look very likely, there's a lot of collateral damage. I'll try to keep an eye on some of their targets.  Acroterion   (talk)   02:44, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it's hard to put a rangeblock together without collateral damage. New IP Special:Contributions/79.69.243.22 is doing the same stuff. Binksternet (talk) 14:38, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Anti Racist Action
Please 'undo' your removal of my edit to the Anti Racist Action page. The naming of people in that page, without a public citation of their alleged involvement, is a dogwhistle that could lead to the targeting of people for violence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Number2Ghost (talk • contribs) 02:49, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Nonsense
Hi Acroterion, regarding : maybe just childish vandalism, but their writing is characteristic of the word salad found in thought disorders like schizophrenia. It's easy to dismiss such behavior as disruptive or asinine - I've done it myself, and it took a long time, and seeing several friends afflicted, to learn better. It seemed necessary to give a vandalism warning to this user, but I also wanted to be sensitive to the possibility, hence my comment: If you are deliberately adding nonsense to Wikipedia, please stop. If not, please try to get psychiatric help from a doctor or hospital. Thanks. I was disheartened to see that you removed what I wrote from the talk page, with the summary "rv nonsense". I don't imagine my words would have much impact either way, but it seemed like the right thing to do anyway.

It's not the only example on Wikipedia. Just a week before, there was another user writing in a way that looked, as likely as not, to result from a person struggling with psychosis. A group of admins were having a laugh about it, and talking about memorializing it on a joke page. It could be a troll, but it could be someone suffering and in need of help. I didn't say anything, but maybe I should have. I don't mean to condemn or point fingers, and I don't want to be the political correctness police. Last month was Mental Health Awareness month, and I think we all could stand to be more informed and conscious about it. Would you consider this? Thanks. --IamNotU (talk) 12:17, 26 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Your comment certainly wasn't nonsense, and I agree with your assessment that the person was having a psychiatric crisis. However, Wikipedia isn't therapy, and we can't be in the business of offering mental health advice. It's been my experience that it's hard, verging on futile to do in person, much less via a text-based medium between complete strangers who may be at opposite ends of the earth, and leaving it on the talkpage just provides a target for those who might make fun of it. A vandalism warning isn't going to affect the person's perception in the slightest, it's better to quietly block, clear the scrambled text, and move on. My edit summary could probably have been "rv" and left it at that. In this I tend to treat it as I might when I encounter someone who is clearly a child who is offering too much information, who will not listen to someone typing over the internet trying to tell them not to - just quietly clear it and move on. From the point of view of a publisher or newspaper, that's material for the slushpile.  Acroterion   (talk)   12:38, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I gave the warning because WP:AIV normally requires four warnings before blocking. It's also my experience that it can be very difficult to get someone to accept the need for help, but I felt bad about making an accusation of malicious damage & vandalism, when it probably wasn't that way. I'm not quite sure what you mean by it being a target for those who might make fun of it, though I do understand the concept of quietly clearing things without comment. Maybe I should have gone straight to an admin instead. I'll keep you in mind if I see something like that again... -IamNotU (talk) 13:10, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * In general, never hesitate from contacting WP:EMERGENCY, if there's even any doubt that acute distress may lead to self-harm. Not sure that's the case here, though. El_C 13:18, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Re: blanking the text - I don't like to leave something posted by someone who is apparently in distress, it seems intrusive. I agree that AIV is not set up to handle that kind of thing, and ANI is too public. I'd just quietly contact an active admin and ask them to do a block and removal. If you see a genuinely troubling situation (I don't think this one falls into that category, in terms of the possibility of harm, at least), El C's advice is correct. I've dealt with the WMF's emergency folks on several occasions, and they've been helpful. They won't be able to tell you what they did, but I can assure you it's much better than the bad old days when we had to make up our minds what to do as individuals and take action into our own hands. Having talked to the police on three occasions before the emergency procedure was adopted, this is better.  Acroterion   (talk)   01:09, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Re: blanking the text - I don't like to leave something posted by someone who is apparently in distress, it seems intrusive. I agree that AIV is not set up to handle that kind of thing, and ANI is too public. I'd just quietly contact an active admin and ask them to do a block and removal. If you see a genuinely troubling situation (I don't think this one falls into that category, in terms of the possibility of harm, at least), El C's advice is correct. I've dealt with the WMF's emergency folks on several occasions, and they've been helpful. They won't be able to tell you what they did, but I can assure you it's much better than the bad old days when we had to make up our minds what to do as individuals and take action into our own hands. Having talked to the police on three occasions before the emergency procedure was adopted, this is better.  Acroterion   (talk)   01:09, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Edits
I am ok with your edits. Opinions are ruining Wikipedia, I have been using it for over 20 years and shocked how it has become a political propaganda tool. As someone who works In one of the most cutting edge technical industries (spacecraft), I cringe every time I use Wikipedia for anything non-technical where millennials have corrupted all the pages with their opinions. If you don’t mind, search on “alt-right,” “right wing,” “fascist,” and “conspiracy theorist,” to see how many mainstream entities have been characterized by mental midgets citing opinion pieces, unrelated articles, or with no citations at all. If you were to correct those articles, that would be a service to Wikipedia and possibly bring its reputation back as a credible encyclopedia. The type of BS I see now is going to cause the collapse of Wikipedia, which would be a shame.
 * The answer isn't to put back something that says the same thing in an opposite direction, and anybody who wants to look up OANN can do so via the link. As far as Brennan is concerned, a broad investigation, one of many ongoing legal maneuvers in an election year, doesn't warrant mention or such specificity unless something actually comes of it.  Acroterion   (talk)   23:31, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Seriously, stop with the accusations in BLPs in wikivoice, you're doing exactly what you were just complaining about.  Acroterion   (talk)   23:38, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

These are NY Times, CNN and NY Post “news” articles that have been broadly reported with accurate citations of the news? Why are you not stating the unmasking which is a public record of a very high level person? John Brennan was the CIA Director, one of the most powerful positions in the world. He was caught lying. The NY Times carries it but not Wikipedia?
 * You are drawing a conclusion that isn't plainly, explicitly stated in either source. "The Times reported that Durham is also looking into whether Brennan privately contradicted his public comments" is very far from your accusation. And an account in the New York Post (!) of a discussion on Tucker Carlson's show is not close to satisfactory sources, far less since it doesn't say what you're asserting either.You can't complain about propaganda when you're drawing conclusions not present in sources.  Acroterion   (talk)   23:48, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

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