User talk:Ad Orientem/Archive 17

Flurry of activity at Wet market...?
What just happened at Wet market? How did that attract the attention of a half dozen editors in the span of a few minutes...? Thanks for (hopefully) putting an end to it.

I was posting a talk page post while this all happened. If nothing comes of the talk page post, I imagine it would be okay to eventually restore the removed material. — MarkH21talk 01:40, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what the issue is in the content dispute, but it was obviously a hot and heavy edit war. I protected the page and warned the one IP who had not already received a warning. A talk page discussion is definitely in order. If the edit warring resumes I am going to drop the hammer. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:25, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * P.S. I just blocked one of the IPs who seems to be running amok. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:29, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah it really exploded after my second/last revert. The content dispute wasn’t complicated: the original IP removed a long-standing sentence from the lead, claiming that it wasn’t supported by the sources. This particular sentenced was removed a few times by IPs in the past, but the removal was usually quickly reinstated without major disruptions. I’m just surprised that it caught the fervent attention of so many IPs / new editors on both sides.Thanks for your attention on this matter though. It seems that all of the other involved parties in this case were IPs or very new editors, so the semi protection should resolve the issue without the need for a big hammer! — MarkH21talk 02:38, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Gaming the system
How to protect the Wikipedia project from users who carry agendas - Community before using the tools, it must use the mind, no problem, you did that - However, he misguided the community to apply his hegemony freely and indeed he did after 12 hours of your protection tag, to display his authority, domination, and ownership with his bunch of associated users. He removed twice 12,837‎ bytes of well-sourced material from the article about Ehsan Sehgal without explanation and discussion, until now, he couldn't explain, except his phobia. As honesty and fairness, you should undo his reversion for discussion and reaching consensus, which he cannot. You jumped in his gaming the system since he ignored and encountered this - "There have been some radical changes to this article. Saqib please discuss your concerns here before reverting again to an old version. ϢereSpielChequers 16:31, 3 May 2020 (UTC)." How you show your honesty and fairness, it is up to you. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1C00:1604:BB00:459B:2CED:129E:AAB0 (talk)
 * This appears to be a content dispute. Please discuss this on the article talk page. See also WP:DR for advice on how to handle disagreements with other editors. Also please remember to assume good faith in the actions of other editors. Thank you for your contributions to the project. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:30, 6 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for helping — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1C00:1604:BB00:459B:2CED:129E:AAB0 (talk) 17:33, 6 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Can you help to fix that.Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1C00:1604:BB00:459B:2CED:129E:AAB0 (talk) 18:52, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Iftekhar Rafsan
--KaziKamrulOfficial17 (talk) 17:07, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello My name is Kamrul. This is my first article on Wikipedia. I am now the new Wikipedia editor. I am bored sitting at home all day because the university is currently closed. So I thought let's do something. That's why I came to Wikipedia. I thought of writing the article "Iftekhar Rafsan" because I am one of his super fan. I don't know how successful I was in writing this article but I tried my best. If I have any mistakes, I have a request to correct them. Finally, my request was that the article be reviewed once. Thank you
 * Hi Kamrul and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions to the project. I see that your draft has been submitted for review. That should be finished within a few days. If there are any issues with the draft you will be notified on your talk page. In the meantime I have left some links on your talk page that you may find helpful. Happy editing! -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:11, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much sir for guiding me --KaziKamrulOfficial17 (talk) 18:41, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Same person using two IPs disruptively
Hi, can you have a look at the two IPs that start with "2001:8003:3350:D500" here. They geolocate to Australia and have the same internet provider yet are trying to vote as different people.--NØ 09:05, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Obviously 2nd vote struck. -Ad Orientem (talk) 13:56, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Sock
Hi Ad Orientem, just to let you know but Blueberry72 is a sock of Billiekhalidfan see their edits with Bebe Rexha: as one of BKF’s go to page to remove all genres for their preferred genre of pop. 51.52.176.186 (talk) 09:12, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Referred to a CU for investigation. Thanks for the heads up. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:54, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * A CU check suggests the two accounts are unrelated. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:55, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry I always get that one confused with Blueberry72’s actual sockpuppet master User:Giubbotto non ortodosso, both pop music vandals and genre warriors who like to change genres to any musician/album/single to pop (their preferred genre) and quote that the other genres are unsourced, both are from the same place, Italy and ironically they’ve been blocked before as a check user confirming it was GNO in the past, but Blueberry made up a phoney story that they’re not GNO and evaded their block. Please can you indeff block the vandal? 86.187.163.254 (talk) 10:00, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry but I'm not sufficiently familiar with this sock master to block them on a WP:DUCK basis. I suggest you open a WP:SPI investigation or contact an admin with the check user tool. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:14, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * They’re all wrong, it’s one of MariaJaydHicky’s accounts that she was lucky for it to slip beneath the cracks and use it how she saw fit. 109.144.216.166 (talk) 17:41, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Reporting Isaacsorry
This editor has been problematic for making unconstructive or questionable edits, such as these. This editor has warned by multiple editors in the past, such as Ss112, JesseRafe, Akhiljaxxn, Laser brain, SNUGGUMS, and Isento.

The talk page history clearly shows the editor has been ignoring these warnings, and still making these unhelpful edits for several months now. The editor also keeps using VisualEditor which mess up the article's format like this. I tell them at my talk page to not use that tool but continue anyway. This kind of behavior should be unacceptable. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 11:56, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I dropped a warning on their page. If this continues let me know. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:11, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I let you know if this behavior continues. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 18:54, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

thanks
Thanks for the quick action to remove that offensive junk.. Meters (talk) 04:24, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * It was very probably just a bunch of attention seeking BS, but you can never be sure. You handled it exactly correctly. Thank you. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:31, 10 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Almost certainly, but the instructions boil down to "Don't worry about how real it is. Just do it."  Meters (talk) 04:34, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

question re template for user welcome
hi. could you please let me know which welcome template you used, for your welcome at User_talk:Tackyfriar? I use Twinkle for these templates, so I'd like to know which template this was for future use. please ping me when you reply. thanks!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 17:35, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . Unfortunately the template is not in the Twinkle menu, so I have to add it manually. It is . -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:37, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * ok, that sounds fine. by the way, did you know you can customize the Twinkle menu, and add ANY templates to it that you want? I have already done so for all WP:Teahouse welcome templates, and use them frequently. if you want to do so, you should go to preferences, then click the link to view the preferences for Twinkle. let me know if you might like some more info on how to do so. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 17:40, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I was not aware of that. If you want to go ahead and add this template to the Twinkle menu go right ahead. My tech skills largely topped out with the electric typewriter. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:45, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * lol gotcha!! I would be glad to; however, actually each user has to customize their own individual Twinkle menu themselves. to do so, click "Preferences" then click "gadgets." the text of the checkbox for Twinkle has a link to "preferences" at the end of it. if you want more details, I would suggest you ask at the Help Desk. they would probably be quicker and more clear than me, for explaining the full set of steps. I hope that's helpful. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 17:49, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I will have a look in a little bit. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:53, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

ShahadatHossain
[https://utrs-beta.wmflabs.org/appeal/30502 requests unblock on utrs. Has been editing constructively elsewhere. Has sworn off spam. Inclined to unblock.] Consulting with blocking admins. -- Deep fried okra  User talk:Deepfriedokra 23:08, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi User talk:Deepfriedokra. The above link does not work. However if you think they deserve some rope I have no objections. Just please emphasize to them that this is likely their last chance. They have a formidable block log. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:13, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Tim96144
Hi AO. I was wondering if you could warn the user about tandem-using his registered account and his IP address to edit, as I have warned him about this to evidently no avail. He has previously stated he is located in Taiwan, and created a redirect as his user account the other day, then proceeded to expand the article using his IP address while logged out 20 minutes later. I have asked him numerous times to stop tandem using accounts like this, and he obviously has not, and so can no longer claim ignorance of "I didn't know I was logged out" etc. Perhaps he is not doing anything disruptive, but this kind of thing gives the impression it's multiple users doing something on a page when it's only one.  Ss  112   00:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:22, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Time to close discussion?
This article Lupe Hernández has been up deletion for 8 days now. Isn't a discussion only supposed to for last 7 days? Isn't it time to close the discussion now? Davidgoodheart (talk) 02:36, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi David. The discussion was relisted for another week by Northamerica1000. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:44, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Reporting 68.197.22.45
This IP keep adding unsourced recording dates in articles and has ignore warnings. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 20:14, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Blocked x 31 hrs. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:16, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Archiving my talk page
Can you help me by archiving my talk page? TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 20:02, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I will have a look. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:19, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * How long do you want to leave discussion on your talk page before they are archived? -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:26, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * For an month. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 20:29, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, assuming I have not muffed it, sometime in the next couple of days Cluebot III should archive anything older than 30 days on your talk page. Thereafter it will do so whenever discussions or notices with signatures exceed thirty days. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:40, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 21:34, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * NP... -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:35, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Question: ITN Eurovision
First, thanks for the close on this. Second, about the close reason - you wrote that 'consensus will not develop', which is one way of calling SNOW. However, due to time zones, the nomination hadn't been open for very long during normal European waking hours, and in the time it was (the last seven or so comments), it was about 50/50 on support/oppose. I think the Americans oppose would have taken it in the end from the comments given, but it would have been much closer (not an 18 hour SNOW). I don't know what time zone/country you're in, but... well, do you think this is an accurate perception? Kingsif (talk) 01:40, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . In my experience 18 hours is not a rapid close and I would definitely not characterize it as a SNOW close. I've been around for a while and I can't recall off the top of my head any nomination that was facing similar levels of opposition after this much time, and then suddenly gained enough support to get posted, UNLESS something unusual occurred that changed the dynamics of the discussion. That said, it's not something I am all that worked up over. If you want to re-open the discussion, go ahead. But I still don't think it's going to fly. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:49, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * No, thanks - I was seeking out your judgment, so... thanks. Kingsif (talk) 01:52, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Itsfrances04
Hi AO. I was wondering if you could block Itsfrances04. This user keeps on goig through articles adding inflated sales numbers without sources or any discussion. I thought he was done after last warning, but he started doing it again. Thanks. -Max24 (talk) 10:45, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Blocked x 1 week. If this resumes after the block expires, let me know and I will indef them. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:08, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/Sincedeath2638939
Hi AO. I believe that Sincedeath2638939 is a Deathismetal14 sock with the same editing style compared to previous blocked socks. 2402:1980:307:4A76:8A57:B425:9C10:463 (talk) 17:11, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Indeffed. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:18, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

CSD
Becuase you are on I might as will, this page Draft:NDNK Nazwa Dluzsza Niz Kariera seems to be nonsense as it is in polish or something. Thanks, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 16:46, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Deleted as a test page. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:51, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, while I’m here draft:Koko.news seems to be a promo, as it is made by some one that may have a COI per their username. Thanks, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 16:56, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Deleted. User indeffed. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:58, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks for your help, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 16:59, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for all of the requests over the past few minutes. Won’t respond until later though so take your time. Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 17:19, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Response sent. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:24, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Great, I’ll check it later. Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 17:26, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Saw, and replied. Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 17:52, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * [] Needs deleting and the user blocked. Thanks, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 17:17, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:19, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Feedback request: History and geography request for comment
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Could you move a fair use image?
Hello, could you rename File:Nova Vulgata, 1979.jpeg to "Nova Vulgata, 1986.jpeg"? Thanks in advance. Veverve (talk) 13:01, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:27, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

96.255.213.11
Hi Ad Orientem, This ip address that you have blocked for 2 weeks has resumed disruptive editing on multiple articles again. — Young Forever (talk)   22:46, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Blocked x 3 months. This is their third block in a short period of time. I prefer original mistakes. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:02, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

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Lady A
I think that IP added their old name in more places on the page, which I now can't revert since I haven't been registered 4 days so can you do it?
 * I will have a look after I have cleared out the backlog at RfPP. At the moment that takes priority. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:46, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks like the article is in good shape. If you find any discrepancies just post a note on the talk page and someone will clean it up (hopefully). -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:07, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

User:73.193.21.179
Hi, I reported User:73.193.21.179 to WP:AIV over half an hour ago and there hasnt been a response yet. They've been constantly vandalising the whole time, could you please take a look. Cheers. –DMartin 03:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Already zapped. There are a bunch of trolls running amok. Trying to get them. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:33, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

User:Das osmnezz
Hello, I'm reaching on my own accord in reference to a restriction that you put on a few years back. You had restricted him to running all new articles through AfC, found here. I don't know all the circumstances around this block or when it was last reviewed, but I think now might be the time to lift this restriction. Over the past few weeks, I've reviewed and approved a few dozen of this users articles and have not seen any that don't easily pass WP:NFOOTY (which seems to be the subject the user is keen on). As such, I would give my blessing (whatever that's worth) on this user to be allowed to directly create articles again. Cheers. Sulfurboy (talk) 08:35, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . Thanks for your note. I have noticed a general improvement in their article quality and commented on it recently at their talk page. However, if you take a look at their talk page, you will see a significant percentage of AfC templates are still for declined submissions. For now I am continuing to monitor their content creation and if the trend towards improvement in both quality and meeting our notability guidelines continues I will happily consider lifting their editing restrictions. Unfortunately, I don't think we are quite there yet. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:54, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Courtesy ping . -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:01, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Not to call out my fellow reviewers, but some seem to be mistakes on their part. Looking at the four declines that currently show on their talk page (I didn''t go back and examine beyond that):
 * 1) Draft:Maximiliano Moreira - the only one I'm not sure about as it is now deleted.
 * 2) Andreu Ramos was declined for notability even though they made appearances for a team in the Hong Kong Premier League, it has now been accepted.
 * 3) David Bitsindou was declined for notability even though they made appearances for a team in Veikkausliiga, it is now accepted.
 * 4) Draft:Esteban Goicoechea declined for notability even though they made appearances for a team in Primera B Nacional.
 * 5) Kemal Halat declined for notability, I've now accepted as they made appearances for Turkish Süper Lig.
 * The latter four all look as if they had reliable enough of sourcing to demonstrate this, or at the very least it passes the AfC criterion of "likely to pass an AfD".
 * Now I'll be the first to admit, that I believe the inclusion criteria for footballers is way too wide, however the editor seems to have a firm grasp of what qualifies per WP:NFOOTY. I imagine the same story will be seen with any other recent declines. At the very least, I hope we can determine a time in the near future for a re-review, I wouldn't want to see this editor discouraged and also have my own self-serving interest of seeing a decrease to the AfC backlog. Cheers Sulfurboy (talk) 22:04, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thoughts? -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:15, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * First of all, let me back up what Sulfurboy is saying about the rejected submissions. The football notability guidelines are broader than they ought to be, and I get the impression that many reviewers don't realise this. Das osmnezz getting submissions rejected despite them meeting the relevant guidelines has been a recurring theme since the restrictions were first imposed. I wouldn't fault them for it. Besides, the main concern with this editor was always English language competency, not notability. My only real misgiving is that their editing has become very formulaic of late. That's not in and of itself a bad thing; it just makes it difficult to evaluate how much their English has actually improved. You seem to have a better handle on this than I do, since Das osmnezz has largely dropped off my radar in recent months. If you're satisfied that the content of their submissions is adequate, I'd have no objections to the restrictions being lifted. Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:19, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * & Ok. So I went back through his talk page archives to the beginning of the year which is about six months. First I do in fact think there is an improvement in his pages. A higher percentage are getting through AfC and I am not seeing the issues with the inappropriate language (flowery and peacock words and phrases) that almost got him indeffed a few years back. That said, there are still too many drafts being declined for my comfort level. I don't expect perfection. That's not a reasonable standard. And some of the declined drafts were subsequently accepted. But there are still enough declines and deleted drafts that I'm just not ready to lift the editing restrictions... yet. Again though, there has definitely been a noticeable improvement and more of his drafts seem to be passing muster. If this continues I remain open to reviewing his record again in a few months. And while most of his drafts are stubs, I can't ignore the volume of content he has added. (I actually gave him a barnstar a while back for creating more than 500 articles.) So let us hope the trend continues and sometime in the Fall I will have another look with the hope of being able to lift his editing restrictions. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:07, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Courtesy ping -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:07, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The latter four all look as if they had reliable enough of sourcing to demonstrate this, or at the very least it passes the AfC criterion of "likely to pass an AfD".
 * Now I'll be the first to admit, that I believe the inclusion criteria for footballers is way too wide, however the editor seems to have a firm grasp of what qualifies per WP:NFOOTY. I imagine the same story will be seen with any other recent declines. At the very least, I hope we can determine a time in the near future for a re-review, I wouldn't want to see this editor discouraged and also have my own self-serving interest of seeing a decrease to the AfC backlog. Cheers Sulfurboy (talk) 22:04, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thoughts? -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:15, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * First of all, let me back up what Sulfurboy is saying about the rejected submissions. The football notability guidelines are broader than they ought to be, and I get the impression that many reviewers don't realise this. Das osmnezz getting submissions rejected despite them meeting the relevant guidelines has been a recurring theme since the restrictions were first imposed. I wouldn't fault them for it. Besides, the main concern with this editor was always English language competency, not notability. My only real misgiving is that their editing has become very formulaic of late. That's not in and of itself a bad thing; it just makes it difficult to evaluate how much their English has actually improved. You seem to have a better handle on this than I do, since Das osmnezz has largely dropped off my radar in recent months. If you're satisfied that the content of their submissions is adequate, I'd have no objections to the restrictions being lifted. Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:19, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * & Ok. So I went back through his talk page archives to the beginning of the year which is about six months. First I do in fact think there is an improvement in his pages. A higher percentage are getting through AfC and I am not seeing the issues with the inappropriate language (flowery and peacock words and phrases) that almost got him indeffed a few years back. That said, there are still too many drafts being declined for my comfort level. I don't expect perfection. That's not a reasonable standard. And some of the declined drafts were subsequently accepted. But there are still enough declines and deleted drafts that I'm just not ready to lift the editing restrictions... yet. Again though, there has definitely been a noticeable improvement and more of his drafts seem to be passing muster. If this continues I remain open to reviewing his record again in a few months. And while most of his drafts are stubs, I can't ignore the volume of content he has added. (I actually gave him a barnstar a while back for creating more than 500 articles.) So let us hope the trend continues and sometime in the Fall I will have another look with the hope of being able to lift his editing restrictions. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:07, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Courtesy ping -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:07, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * & Ok. So I went back through his talk page archives to the beginning of the year which is about six months. First I do in fact think there is an improvement in his pages. A higher percentage are getting through AfC and I am not seeing the issues with the inappropriate language (flowery and peacock words and phrases) that almost got him indeffed a few years back. That said, there are still too many drafts being declined for my comfort level. I don't expect perfection. That's not a reasonable standard. And some of the declined drafts were subsequently accepted. But there are still enough declines and deleted drafts that I'm just not ready to lift the editing restrictions... yet. Again though, there has definitely been a noticeable improvement and more of his drafts seem to be passing muster. If this continues I remain open to reviewing his record again in a few months. And while most of his drafts are stubs, I can't ignore the volume of content he has added. (I actually gave him a barnstar a while back for creating more than 500 articles.) So let us hope the trend continues and sometime in the Fall I will have another look with the hope of being able to lift his editing restrictions. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:07, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Courtesy ping -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:07, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

UTRS Access
You are being messaged because there was a bug in UTRS that made it look like you had access to no appeals in the system. This has now since been patched and will be tested more before fully implemented again. You can track the progress if you wish here. I appreciate your patience and wanted to stop by to say try again, and let me know if anything else is wrong. Please also ping me if you reply here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 05:15, 16 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the fyi. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:16, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Feedback request: Politics, government, and law request for comment
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Request
Sir, can you block this id: 75.85.72.34 ?? It add nonexistent peaks in Be Kind many times. Or Semi-protection​ this page.
 * ❌ Hi . Their edits don't look like WP:VANDALISM to me. Please take a look at their editing history and if you think they are a vandal get back to me. Also we rarely block users w/o warnings first. (See WP:ZT). This IP has not received any warnings. They may be a newish user who is simply making mistakes. If their editing becomes disruptive broadly speaking and they have been warned adequately feel free to drop me a line. Thank you for your contributions to the project. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:05, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Feedback request: History and geography request for comment
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Id 75.85.72.34
Hi Ad Orientem, this id updated many songs's chart peaks, but it went it blind repeatedly. Billboard will update charts at Tuesday,but this Id 75.85.72.34 update in advance, I don't know whether is ture positions, please banned this Id 75.85.72.34.
 * Warning issued. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:59, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Tim96144 (talk) 16:01, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Hey
- Not sure if this is real or not, but it's problematic anyway. Should probably be deleted. Hog Farm (talk) 23:35, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thank you. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:45, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

User:JesusLuna19
Hi Ad Orientem, This editor that you had blocked for 24 hours (last Friday) has resumed doing disruptive editing on the same article Selena: The Series again. — Young Forever (talk)   05:46, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Final Warning issued. -Ad Orientem (talk) 06:16, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This editor has resumed again doing disruptive editing again, this time specifically repeatedly adding WP:OR to the same article. — Young Forever (talk)   03:08, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Blocked x 1 week. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:20, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

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Brumby
Hi! Thanks for taking action at Brumby, that's been a time-sink. I wonder, though, how effective semi is going to be – the disruptive editor is autoconfirmed, so will still be able to edit. The protection will of course stop him using any more socks, but that's about all, I think. On the bright side, there seem to be signs that he is beginning to listen to what others have told him. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 07:49, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . We don't protect pages to deal with a single disruptive editor. If they continue to edit disruptively, formal warnings should be posted on their talk page. If that doesn't work the next step would be WP:ANI or WP:AIV if their behavior amounts to naked vandalism. Happy editing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:20, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, yes, that's why I was wondering why you chose to take that particular action. I'd have thought that something like a partial block from that one article might have been more effective. He's had several warnings, and it's already been at ANI, by the way. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 15:34, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, I have issued a final warning. If they resume their disruptive behavior let me know and I will indef them. This does appear to have gone on long enough. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:59, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Please accept my apologies for cutting across you, Ad Orientem. I saw the continuation at Talk:Brumby and issued an indefinite partial block from the article and its talk page without spotting your final warning. Please feel free to modify my block if you feel it appropriate. Regards --RexxS (talk) 18:35, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries. I was more or less resigned that we were heading for some sort of long term block. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:37, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Please explain block
Hello, reading the wiki Guidlines of how to approach a dispute, going through due process and presenting evidence and asking questions. I am not edditing the page just asking questions and I think having valid arguments to move this page along. Please explain thankyou. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Shenqijing (talk) 18:50, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello can you please answer me directly as we need to move this decision on, I am very busy as I am a health professional. Shenqijing (talk) 23:35, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Shenqijing Your editing on Brumby was contrary to talk page WP:CONSENSUS which is what we live and die by. You engaged in edit warring and sock puppetry to pursue your preferred version of the article. You were even blocked for the socking. Frankly I think you are very fortunate not to have been indefinitely blocked given your behavior. As of right now I have serious doubts as to your being here to build an encyclopedia. I strongly advise you to drop the stick and move on to something else before your block becomes site wide. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:47, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Courtesy ping -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:47, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has 0 articles and you can edit of them. You don't seem to be aware of how close you are to losing the privilege to edit the remainder. Surely you can find another topic out of those that you could usefully contribute to? --RexxS (talk) 00:05, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi, thankyou for you comments, I am hoping that by learning the wiki process that I can make valuable contributions to this subject. As as you know our members Nd grows with a little friction. Amituofo 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Shenqijing (talk) 06:54, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Sorry I will say that again, Thankyou for you comments, I am hoping that by learning the wiki process that I can make valuable contributions to this subject the Brumby. As as you know, Our mind grows with a little friction. Amituofo 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Shenqijing (talk) 06:54, 27 June 2020 (UTC) Shenqijing (talk) 06:57, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello again, we are in a sustainabile community so we share devices, We are not sock puppets and by the looks of it you also blocked a editor that was and has nothing to do with us. Amituofo 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Shenqijing (talk) 07:02, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Eagle Eye: that did not take long
The IP is back to revert, still not participating on the article talk page. Thanks. El_C 01:49, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 2601:18F:602:6970:0:0:0:0/64 blocked x 1 week. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:53, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the prompt action, Ad Orientem. El_C 01:56, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * NP. I figured this was coming, but I prefer to give people every chance to avoid the hammer. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:59, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

You've got mail

 * ✅ Thank you for the heads up. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:41, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for proving my cynicism misguided
Here. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:45, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I do try. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:46, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

List of English words containing Q not followed by U
Should Iraq be in this article, as it's not included. Davidgoodheart (talk) 03:48, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi David. I do have to admit that sometimes you come up with the most unexpected questions. And on this one, I can't say I have a strong answer. If Iraq is in fact an English word then the answer would be yes. But I don't know if it is. I suggest posting this question on the article talk page in the hopes of getting a more informed answer. Sorry I can't be more helpful on this one. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:01, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, I just thought that I would take a break from the stuff that I talk about the most and try something different for a change. And as for "the most unexpected questions", you don't mean that as a bad thing, do you? Davidgoodheart (talk) 04:16, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Not at all. Your questions are usually a break from the run of the mill stuff I deal with near daily. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:20, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

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Lil Huddy RevDel
Can you please oversight revisions 965172818 and 965173471 under RD2 and in order to not feed the trolls? Thanks.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 02:43, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . Thanks for your alert to the disruptive editing going on. I have protected the page for a couple of days. The edits about someone being a GF aren't really the kind of stuff that require a revdel. We typically reserve that for defamatory stuff or slurs and the like. They've been reverted and the page is now protected. That should do for now. If this resumes let me know and we can escalate our response as needed. Thanks for all your work. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:57, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The ones I specifically tagged accuse Huddy of being a sexual predator and "rapest". Should've dropped diff links the first time, but here it is. I haven't dealt too much with RevDel outside of copyvios so I'm not 100 percent sure it's RevDel material but it's definitely a serious unfounded accusation.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 03:01, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'm not always up to date on euphemisms... but "stick figure" doesn't normally translate into rapist. I also did see someone named as his gf. Am I missing something here? -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:05, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Dropped the wrong diff link. I apologize. Double-checked these: . and . Apologize again for the confusion I caused.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 03:10, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Bingo! Those are the real deal "serious blp violations." And they got the IP an instant WP:ZT block. And yes I revdeled the edits. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:14, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Glad I could finally get my ducks in a row for this one.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 03:17, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * NP and thanks for raising the red flag. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:18, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Private wikis and getting help
Hi, I just wanted to know if you know how much private wikis can be seen and if they can come up on search results like yahoo and google. Also do you know where I can find help with creating some? Cryptozoology is something that I might start with as this really intersts me. Davidgoodheart (talk) 07:09, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi David. This is a subject about which I know almost nothing. I did a quick search and there are two pages here that you might want to look at... Wiki and Wiki software. Beyond that I am afraid I will be of little help as I am not very tech savvy. You may wish to query who I believe is well versed in tech and has both feet in the 21st century (unlike some other people). -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:46, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Reporting 2601:240:10C:996B:5D4C:456F:7A1E:ECC
Block evasion by MakaveliReed. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 02:51, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Blocked x 1 week. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:54, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

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One More Favor To Ask
Since we're here (and thank you for your assistance at Sambucus), would it be at all possible if I could ask if you could ratchet up the autoconfirmation at List of legendary creatures by type to semi-protection, and block, which is being used by an IP-hopping vandal to evade his blocks at other IPs? The page is being once again vandalized by a vandal who is inserting errors and original research into it. Thank you again very much for your time.--Mr Fink (talk) 03:22, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:33, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I owe you a cookie recipe, if not my life.--Mr Fink (talk) 03:49, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I love cookies (and cigars). -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:50, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Unsolved murder?
Hi, is this and unsolved murder Ben Golden McCollum was shot dead by two robbers. Davidgoodheart (talk) 01:36, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Do they know who did it? -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I can't find that out, that is why I thought I would ask you this. Davidgoodheart (talk) 01:41, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I would not categorize it as unsolved unless reliable sources call it that. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:42, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

I was off Wikipedia since before the talk page message so I didn't see it
Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 14:02, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Block evasion by FortniteRishabS0122
I made this report in March of this year about this editor using multiple accounts for disruptive editing, it appears the editor is back again with a new account called. You can can it's same editor by looking at the range here. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 06:40, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Indeffed. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:16, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks but as Binksternet pointed out last time, the editor using IPs from Frisco, Texas through the range Special:Contributions/2600:1700:1113:B80:0:0:0:0/48. This range should be blocked. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 20:07, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Rangeblocked x 1 month. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:50, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Block adjustment request
Hi! Could you unblock or allow account creation for this block? There's a professor from this school trying to set up an account, and who may run a Wikipedia editing assignment in their upcoming class, who is stuck behind the block. Thanks!--ragesoss (talk) 17:41, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I have modified the block to permit account creation. But there has been a lot of disruptive editing that has come out of that IP range so I am not inclined to lift the block entirely. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:50, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Account creation should be all they'll need.--ragesoss (talk) 17:52, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * NP. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:00, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

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I just want you to know I saw this
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=966787041

Also, you might want to consider that “pride in [my] reputation for POV editing when it has been raised on their talk page“ is actually my amusement at a false reputation projected upon me by brazen hyperpartisans, which is often SOP in political debates when someone has lost the argument and run outta ammo.

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Please take a look at this
I'm not sure if this meets WP:N Geekpotato24   (talk to me!)  21:26, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks like it has been deleted. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:42, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It's been created again, but somebody placed a speedy deletion under CSD A7 and CSD G8. Geekpotato24   (talk to me!)  18:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Page deleted. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:36, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

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Yesterday
I thought it appropriate to leave a note (now that a new day has dawned) to say that I regret ascribing negative intent to your actions yesterday. It was late at night, and the breaking news article had just come to my attention, and it seemed to cast obvious doubt on the "nobody reliable is making these associations" I was seeing. My verbiage was meant to be sarcastic ("Gee, I wonder why an editor would think this and make this sort of edit?"), and I thought it was so clear what I meant in the moment that I assumed you were trying to shut me down. Taking another look at things this morning, I easily see how you would interpret what I wrote as me making my own insinuation of racism, but last night I didn't see that connection. I appreciate your forbearance, and I also appreciate that you had the foresight to recognize that sanctions might need a community look--something many admins only do after the fact. I hope I didn't cost any hair last night; mine is going snow white rather than gray, but it's also begun slow retreat from my brow. Take care. Grandpallama (talk) 18:39, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you and much appreciated. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:37, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Help Requested
Hi, I made a goof. ] When I was moving a page from a user's userspace to mainspace (I have permission, I helping with article creation), I did this. Yeah, I feel like an idiot. Anyway, would you mind doing the honors, please? Thanks in advance! :) -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 21:27 on July 11, 2020 (UTC) • #StayAtHome • #BlackLivesMatter
 * ✅ -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:35, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * P.S. Don't worry. We've all muffed things before and no doubt will again. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:39, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * In my case, there's no doubt. :D Thanks again! -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 22:21 on July 11, 2020 (UTC) •  #StayAtHome • #BlackLivesMatter

Unsolved death?
Hi, regarding deceased American professional wrestler Brad Armstrong I don't think his death cause was ever revealed. Is this an unsolved death or not? Davidgoodheart (talk) 10:20, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi David. No. It would only be an unsolved death if the cause was never determined. Not making it public is not the same thing. When in doubt, go with what reliable sources say. If they are not calling it "unsolved," then it isn't. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:12, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

You've got mail

 * Replied on your talk page. -Ad Orientem (talk) 06:26, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Block evasion follow-up
SPI appears to be swamped. I filed a report at Sockpuppet investigations/KevinPR82 regarding evasion of an IP block you placed. Since the user has admitted switching between IP and account editing (again), perhaps you can manage the matter. If you think it appropriate, you might consider recommending a CheckUser sweep to see if new accounts were created the either of the two recently used IPs. I didn't think CU was needed, but the elapsed time has me second-guessing myself. I also regret not reading your thoughts on ANI beforehand. BiologicalMe (talk) 13:08, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. BiologicalMe (talk) 19:16, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * NP. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:17, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

excuse me like im just trying to add something that is true and the person who blocked me is 62 years old — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hello im a dude (talk • contribs) 05:27, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

The IP range Special:Contributions/2a00:23c6:6581::/39 is obviously a Wikidestruction vandal. They are instantly identifiable by that edit summary alone "Reverted some good faith edits". 2402:1980:8320:33F:A81:7A00:FFB2:844B (talk) 01:19, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Blocked x 2 weeks. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:29, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Reporting Ilovetrevordaniel
Keep adding unsourced genres in articles after final warning. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 22:48, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * This is a new editor with only 43 edits. I think we need to approach this a little more slowly. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:20, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * New user welcomed and cautioned. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:40, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

what? Ilovetrevordaniel (talk) 05:31, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Ilovetrevordaniel. As I explained on your talk page, you must not make claims of fact, including but not limited to genres, in any page on the encyclopedia, without citing a reliable source for that claim. This is part of our policy to ensure that everything is verifiable. The relevant policies and guidelines are WP:V and WP:CITE. Please do not continue to make changes to articles by adding claims of fact that are not properly sourced. Thank you. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:28, 23 July 2020 (UTC)