User talk:Adabow/Archive 13

Hi
Hi Adabow. I was wondering if you could leave some comments on Mandy Moore discography here? Also, your opinion here, if possible? Thanks! Novice7 (talk) 08:20, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Saw edit notice. Good luck with the project :) Novice7 (talk) 09:49, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! It must be midnight in NZ. Go to sleep, lol. Good luck submitting the project :) Novice7 (talk) 13:36, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow! How did the day go? And, thanks for checking it out :) Novice7 (talk) 05:32, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol, it's cool! If you're talking about projects and assessments, yeah, I've had troubles with them too. Oh, thank you for reviewing the discog. <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 05:43, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I've fixed the issues :) <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 06:13, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi Adabow! I know I've been kinda bugging you lately, can you check out "Irresistible" again? The live performances section, if possible :) <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 02:29, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry. I wasn't able to respond before. Well, it is the DreamChaser Tour (the one Dougherty mentions). Thanks for the c/e. <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 03:47, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

RE:
Hi Adabow. I really do appreciate you coming forward about said issues. I understand what you are saying, and it indeed hurts to lose contact with the latter two. As you can see though, I can say that I am not the cause of either. Candy took advantage of me with Mimi. I mean, I waited 2.5 months for less than half the article, no one can say that is fair. I asked around 4 or 5 different times, and each time was a different dead-line and excuse. I'm sorry, but that is so nasty and hurtful. Next, Legolas, I have not done a thing to him, yet he automatically assumes a from of attack on me when I come to say hello to him. As I said Adabow, I have really not done anything except try and have a lot of friends here and do a lot of good work. Unfortunately, both are going to be sacrificed, as I really don't want to continue here with all the hatred and egotism.-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   21:00, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm just butting in here since my name is being brought up. This is the point, bad faith. I genuinely have reasons which I have stated numerous times to Nathan about my slowness in finishing the page, and I never planned to abandon it, I mean why would I offer to work on the project anyway? However clearly he is assuming bad faith and doesn't really thing that I actually have other things to do and are more important, and my time on Wikipedia recently has slowed down, but instead he thinks I'm just not doing the page because I don't feel like it. In this alternate universe "Nasty and hurtful" actions must comprise of scholarships, homework, and extra curriculars? I mean clearly if one wants to get the article done quick, then take it upon themselves to do it if it is that big of a deal. My two pence. Candy  o32  21:53, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Again Candy, last I recall you chose to remove you're part in the project, even furthering the whole "burning bridges" thing. It is hurtful and nasty Candy, not your hw, but the fact that you keep giving me different dead-lines, promises and not answering my messages. Yes that's hurtful. I'm actually now kind of lost with the project, I never imagined doing it alone. You kinda left me there overloaded with work. And there is no bad faith, I'm stating what you did and didn't do, as well as the way I feel.-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   22:00, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * "Candy, this will be the last time I come to you before I assume you've rudely dropped our project. I have waited 10 weeks for you to do 40% of a freaking article. You claim you have been 'searching for sources,' well you're two/three sections only have around 4-5 sources while mine cover over 100. You are obviously not taking this seriously, and its upsetting that you keep either not answering or giving me these BS dead-lines. In case you didn't realize, its almost April 8th, way past your 4th dead-line. I will no longer play this game with you. You have 51 GAs, I doubt any of them have taken a tenth of the time you've taken here. You have until Monday at 12AM when I arrive back from a trip. If you're not done, then our joint effort is through"

Now why would anyone want to continue with a project after that. Secondly, I never have you different deadlines or excuses everytime I said that my time on Wiki was limited due to preparing for college & current schooling. If you never wanted to do the project alone, or "overloaded" with work, then why keep biting me like you don't want me to finish. It doesn't add up. Candy o32  22:27, 11 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Obviously when we are hurt and upset, we say things we don't really mean. Obviously I always wanted you to do your part in the joint effort. And Candy, you did give me several deadlines. At least 2 or 3 or "next week" or "by next thursday"s. Then I gave you April 1st like over a month ago, then you came to me on March 24 and said you would finish before that and at least by then. Comes April 7th and you haven't done anything else. The only thing I apologize for is for snapping at you, but I still think it was unfair and you really didn't try. Now, I still wish you would finally finish your end of the project. I am not sure where you stand, but my sandbox is still open to constructive edits. Will you finally tell me when you will finish? Or is the project completely through. Please think this over, because I am tired of these back and forth.-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   00:05, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Well you keep asking for different dates when I can get finished, but I can never give a concrete date, because when that date comes around again then its going to go back in circles again, so you can move on if you wish. Candy  o32  13:50, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright. I'm gonna just leave it there waiting. Take your time. I'll move on to other projects in the mean time and focus on other things. Just try and finish it as soon as you can. Thanks-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   16:43, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. I'm still going to work on the project, but don't think I'll be offended if you ever wish to move forward yourself. No hard feelings :) Candy  o32  02:07, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad you two have managed to sort this out. Thank you Adabow (talk · contribs) 02:27, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

RE:Single Ladies
I'm reading through the article right now, and I must say it's very good. But,the Cultural Impact is big, as you said. I'll try to trim it out a bit. I'm reading the section for the first time, lol. Btw, in your edit notice the font tag is not closed :) <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 09:42, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I have a question. I don't think all the parodies should be included. Also, I feel some might be a bit undue. What do you think? As for the edit notice, lol, it's okay. I thought my computer had gone crazy, but then I noticed that the tag was not closed :D <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 09:51, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I was trimming it while you shaved it out :D Yep, I agree. FA reviewers might have slammed it. Please do take a look at Composition section. I sense a lot of repetition. Also, I was thinking splitting Awards into a separate section and merging Kanyegate to that. What do you think? <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 10:06, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops! I don't think it can be done :( The reception section is already full (music video), and ... <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 10:11, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Perfect! It looks amazing!! I'm gonna trim the Cover versions a bit now. <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 10:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol, maybe they don't find it "Irresistible". Or maybe, they don't like Simpson? I hope so too. I'll wait till Tuesday, and if nobody comments, I'll ask a few editors to pop in :) Yeah, I know. They're very strict. <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 10:29, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * More on SL: Do you think the whole thing LA Times said should be included? (on Composition)? Btw, you are really excited about Bey's new release, aren't you, lol? I can see that from the editnotice. I suppose it's a part of the lyric? Last, did you hear the Whitney songs? <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 10:50, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay :) I was wondering what happened to the person you mentioned. The debut single and album was really good, but as time flew by, the person's changing a lot :\ I'm excited too, but, I don't want another "dark Bey" album. I wanna see a B'Day+DIL!!! And, Yeah, "HH" carries a great R&B beat. I can't wait for new Whitney material too :D <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 11:05, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I do (kinda). It's nothing like "Check on It", "Suga Mama" or "Deja Vu" :O Lol, don't worry :D Nathan analyzes Mimi the same way too. That's what true fans do :) MC will be back soon, and I don't know what Whit's gonna do next. Some say she's gonna do movies and won't be singing again :O If that's the case, I would have to be admitted to hospital, lol. I love Whitney, just like you love Bey :) <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 11:24, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Beyonce
Beyonce did a commercial for L’Oréal Infallible in November 2007 but i cannot find any reliable source for it. Can you help please? Jivesh   &bull;  Talk2Me  11:29, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

I am currently expanding the lead of the videography. As you did for the discography, i would ask you to trim it once i finish. Not now. Okay? Jivesh   &bull;  Talk2Me  07:55, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Best of luck for your project. Jivesh   &bull;  Talk2Me  12:12, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Sure i will. Jivesh   &bull;  Talk2Me  07:19, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

But don't you think having dates written fully is nicer to the naked eyes? Jivesh   &bull;  Talk2Me  10:21, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Okay. So all i have to say is that is well done! You formatted the references in the appropriate way. I saw the "You better not play me!" you put on top of your talk page. It's a line from "Girl", right? Jivesh   &bull;  Talk2Me  10:26, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Can you please combine the first and the second images from here for me? Jivesh   &bull;  Talk2Me  13:01, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes but as for the images, caption etc, i am not understanding what the reviewer wants me to do. And he also asked me to find a link directly stating that Knowles started to work on the album in 2007. Jivesh   &bull;  Talk2Me  07:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

I am thinking o f withdrawing but i have no idea about how that is done. And i saw you removed the details i added. I did that because someone who commented at the FLC told that i should stress more on the commercial performance of the album as well as their respective records. Jivesh   &bull;  Talk2Me  12:00, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Let me know if you want help with "single Ladies". Jivesh   &bull;  Talk2Me  12:14, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

"Single Ladies" was Black Entertainment Television's best song of the 2000s decade.Source. The link is dead since March 31, 2011. Jivesh   &bull;  Talk2Me  12:57, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Don't you think you have removed too much from the parodies sections? Information like why babies imitated the dance routine (it was explained by a psychologist or something like that). Jivesh   &bull;  Talk2Me  13:36, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Listen Adabow, i know that the article should be trimmed but don't you think at least the parody section should have remained, apart from some imitations which did not get attention. For instance, what should have remained is


 * Many videos featuring babies of different ages, parodying the "Single Ladies" dance, have been posted on YouTube. A video showing a little baby-boy, named Cory Elliott from New Zealand, performing the dance while watching Knowles' on television, became one of the major viral videos according to several media outlets. Time magazine's critic Dan Fletcher ranked this video as the fourth best viral video of 2009 and wrote: "Young children love songs with good rhythm and repetition, and 'Single Ladies' certainly has both." Consequently, experts in music and child development said that it is not surprising that "Single Ladies" won Best Song at the Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards.


 * In May 2010, a group of five girls, all seven years of age, danced to "Single Ladies" for the World of Dance competition. They had chosen to wear skimpy outfits, which prompted considerable coverage from several media outlets. Rosemary Black of Daily News described the girls' performance as "more provocative than appropriate." Additionally, Dr. Phil McGraw who was interviewed by CNN's Anderson Cooper, called the dance moves executed by the girls "wildly inappropriate" and "sexually provocative." He also expressed his anxiety that children are being more sexualized today than in previous generations.[145] According to several other child psychologists, such young children can more easily become the preys of pedophiles, who must have certainly watched the video on YouTube. Sarah Kaufman of The Washington Post commented: "I'm impressed by their flexibility and clean execution. But at the same time I wonder, what kind of dance teachers (paid by the parents) drilled them for hours and hours in the chilly perfection of a routine that feels so exploitative of their energy, innocence and charm".


 * In June 2010, Queen Latifah revealed that the song inspired the title of her new comedy TV series called Single Ladies. (MEDIA)


 * Additionally, the English composer of classical music, Mark-Anthony Turnage composed a setting of the song which he titled Hammered Out. It received its premiere at the BBC Proms on August 27, 2010.


 * Before adding these information, i asked Candy and Legolas in the past. Maybe, we can shorten the lines. But don't you think they should remain? Adabow, i am going to tell you something but please do not get me wrong. PLEASE. When i was expanding SL for GA, i found several parodies which received attention from MTV News, Entertainment Weekly, People Magazine, Time Magazine, The New York Times, Essence Magazine, New York Daily News, Los Angeles Times. Yet, i did not put all the parodies. I selected the most notable ones. I know what i have put in that section (parody). I know the peer reviewer has asked to trim it but frankly telling you i think he does not even know about the dance craze SL caused. I swear i selected the most notable ones. But i agree that some of them should go but think about the first two i mentioned above. Please. Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  13:50, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Me and Adabow had a discussion before trimming :D 1) It can be included, but the last sentence is kinda irrelevant, don't you think? 2)Yes, it can be too. But, the doctor's review slams the rest. So, Dr. Phil's observation can be included. 3) Maybe, I don't think it should be, let's see what Adabow says. 4) I don't know about that too :) What do you say? <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 14:27, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Novice, that what i am saying. The information is long but it is relevant. [1 & 2] It should be here. i do not understand why it was removed. Trust me, i asked other editors before adding it. Let's wait for Adabow's reply. Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  14:31, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The reason we removed is, because the FAC directors might slam it sometimes. Let's wait for Adabow's reply :) <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 14:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The dance craze is summarised by "The music video has inspired a legion of imitators who have posted videos of themselves on to YouTube attempting to perform the choreography." Most individual parodies are irrelevant, except some famous people like Obama. If people want to know about other videos, they can surf YouTube looking up parodies themselves. At one point, we had "According to several other child psychologists, such young children can more easily become the preys of pedophiles, who must have certainly watched the video on YouTube" - now this is getting far from the topic of a Beyonce song. We had a whole paragraph on a group of seven-year olds. If, in the future, they become some big girl band, maybe we can add them in, but being some nobodies it is pretty irrelevant. Another example I just trimmed is:

"n addition, Knowles was due to perform "Sweet Dreams" at the 2009 MTV Video Music Awards on September 13, 2009.[13] However, she only performed the bridge from "Sweet Dreams" at the beginning of her performance, before switching to "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)". Wearing a sparkly leotard and one silver glove, Knowles started performing the song with two background dancers. Knowles then paused, called out: "Now wait" and the lights dimmed.[13] The crowd began to stand and clap their hands together. When the lights came back, there was an army of single ladies from the front to the back of the stage. As the crowd cheered, Knowles and her dancers went through the dance routine.[13] Breaking the lyrics into short bursts, Knowles gave one excited audience member the chance to sing the chorus"


 * which I cut to:

At the 2009 MTV Video Music Awards on September 13, 2009, Knowles performed the bridge from "Sweet Dreams", before switching to "Single Ladies".


 * I would love some help with SL. The main thing is fine-tuning. We have all the relevant info, we just need to polish it up. They main things I have noticed are WP:POV and WP:OVERLINK. Check sources are reliable, too. Adabow (talk · contribs) 20:43, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I noticed instances of Pov too. So, the Cultural Impact is trimmed out. What do you think of the article now Adabow? Do we need to trim other sections too? <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 05:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)


 * It's okay Adabow. If you think the information is not important, then let it be. Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  05:18, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey
Hey Adabow :) So unfortunately, I too am totally lost when it comes to those Asian charts. I had already so much trouble with MC and finding sources for her success in Japan, so Korea is even trickier! BTW how do you like "Judas"? Personally, if she keeps this up, I think Gaga's days are numbered.-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   00:58, 17 April 2011 (UTC)


 * OMG, I seriously love you Adabow, you hit the nail right on the head! :) Yes, I mean a clear notation of a bad song is when there is so much different beats and orchestration trying to cover up the fact that there is no hook at all. lol. I mean, we need songs like "Paparazzi" that have such a good hook, it only needs minimal instrumentation, not a full blown tirade. LOL, the cover has to be the worst thing I've seen, I really don't get what embracing your inner self has to do with a cheaply made photo of a half woman half bike lmao! I actually am religious, so I know what your talking about, but I honestly though don't fully understand the connection with the song lol. I think the "Juda, Juda-ah, Juda, Juda-ah" part is so ridiculous. :D. I hope Bey does not disappoint!-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   03:10, 17 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Very true indeed. I mean, making comments like "Its too precious to talk about" is a little ridiculous (RedOne on the album). I like it when artists don't brag about there work and let it speak for itself. AKA, Bey hasn't said a word yet, she'll let the song, video and artwork speak for the music.-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   03:19, 17 April 2011 (UTC)


 * YES! I'm really excited :) With Carey gone, Perry already run her course, Gaga failing and Britney disappointing, Bey is the only one I got left! :)-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   03:24, 17 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Exactly, this is what i like about Beyonce. She does not give countless interviews here and there telling who wrote the song, who produced it, what was the inspiration, things like it will be released on xxx date. Some artist practically give the impression that they are begging people to make their song a hit.  Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  05:24, 17 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Lol. yup! Well, judging from the stats, Katy is pretty much dominating New Zealand :P. Yeah, I like her personality and spirit too, so that adds to it for me. I like Rihanna sometimes, but I've also grown to hate her. Well probably have heard Bey's new song in around a week.-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   09:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)


 * User:DesperateBeyoncé. Hilarious. Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  17:31, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk:The Vinyl Conflict/GA1
Thank you for reviewing the The Vinyl Conflict for me, and I've fixed all of the issues that you have found. Thanks again, Crowz  RSA  16:18, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of B'Day
The article B'Day you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:B'Day for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a reassessment. Jezhotwells (talk) 01:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC)


 * As I wrote to you on your own page. You should be banned from reviewing. Your idea of a GA assessment is deplorable. Chin up Ada, same shit with me.-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   06:38, 18 April 2011 (UTC)


 * That is kinda unacceptable. Nathan must be angry and so you must be Ada. I left a note with Jez regarding this. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 06:03, 19 April 2011 (UTC)