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A question pls
Hi Sorry to bother u I think you are an editor In the page of William II of the Netherlands He is a king but in his categories he is put as and lgbt head of goverments also with him being lgbt heads of state So is this right As a king he is a head of goverment How is that Can you please clarify if u dont mind And thx AdamPrideTN (talk) 15:51, 15 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, AdamPrideTN. At that time (19th century), monarchs interfered much more in the affairs of government than they do today. But even so, I don't think it is proper to categorize William II as a "Head of Government", only as a "Head of State". I didn't make that edit, so you'd have to search through the page history, find out who did make that edit, and go discuss it with him/her, and, if you arrive to such conclusion, you can erase this, what I judge it to be, small mistake. Cheers! M. Armando (talk) 20:51, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Concerning categories
I have 2 questions please First Sophus Thalbitzer is about a straight ally doctor who like Evelyn Hooker helped to decriminalise homosexuality in Denmark His categories are only LGBT history in Denmark But i added the categories of sexual orientation and psychology and the one of sexual orientatiin and science just like those of Evelyn Hooker ones. So should Evelyn Hooker be added to LGBT history in the US category Should Evelyn hooker and dophus trablitzer both be added to the category of LGBT activists in the us and in denmark resoectively Since that category contains a lot of LGBT allies and friends and scientists or what?

Second the page Lesbian Movement (Denmark) is in the category of LGBt history in denmark It is an lgbt assiciation that is defunct now Should it be put in LGBt assiciatii's in denmark category or what Or be created in a new categor of defunct lgbt association in the denmark as i qaw this category with many associatiins Or what what do u think Sorry for the bother again This may sound stupid and unnecessary for some But it is so important and improving believe me AdamPrideTN (talk) 01:52, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Before adding a subject to a category, it might be worthwhile taking a look on the contents of that category. For instance, « Category:Sexual orientation and science »; you don't see many people cited on that category. It is more rounded on scientific articles, rather than biographical ones. The same goes to « Category:Sexual orientation and psychology ». Now, take a look at « Category:LGBT scientists ». I think the latter is more appropriate for the two subjects you inquire, and future subjects you wish to add to that category. If you wish to search for more categories for LGBT people based on their profession or nationality look at « Category:LGBT people by occupation ». Hope it helps. Cheers! M. Armando (talk) 18:11, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Please stop multi-posting
AdamPrideTN, please stop multi-posting similar messages to different users, as you did here: (1 2 3 4 5  6  7 8  9).

While writing largely similar messages to numerous users about the same content isn't necessarily problematic per se, there is probably a way to do this more efficiently, by just writing your message once in a centralized location for a larger audience, perhaps at a WikiProject Talk page or here on your talk page. For now, can you please centralize your discussion here, and then let's see what others who you have addressed think about this. For example, you have written your section An update maybe to at least the following:.

I notice that you have done the same thing on other topics, including your sections: A question pls  , Concerning categories  ( et al. as above)  , Help pls    , Help please    , Can u create a new page please  (previously pinged users)  , and Fixing a category    , on multiple users' talk pages.

Please do not do this anymore, as it could be disruptive of other editors' time. Instead, create one section here on your talk page for each question you have on a substantially different topic, title the section in a meaningful way reflecting the content or your question, and add the token  at the beginning of the section. Okay? Mathglot (talk) 03:32, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Ok got it!!! Thx!! Ok will do — Preceding unsigned comment added by AdamPrideTN (talk • contribs) 03:37, August 17, 2018 (UTC)


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 * Stay strong, you are not alone and the world is in fact improving each day. The UN is very concerned about LGBTI rights and 22 countries have formed what is known as the Core Group to effect change. Yes the laws are not great in 70+ countries, but compared to 1950 when Kinsey was looking at our world, there has been dramatic change. Please continue to add to this WP space, your voice is not lost here (but stick to the encyclopedic form- unlike myself who needs to be corrected often).Mrphilip (talk) 00:57, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

This barnstar is for you!

 * I want to add my own appreciation and admiration to this. Despite my comments about their suitability on advocacy-free Wikipedia, I share with you the spirit that led you to add those map graphics to several article. It's awesome that you're adding enlightening information about LGBT issues to Arabic Wikipedia. I wish you success in your pursuit of freedom and justice. Largoplazo (talk) 19:35, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

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hey
Hey, thanks for being understanding when I've reverted some of your edits. It's difficult in countries where there's little coverage, such as Armenia and the Baltics, and the coverage we do have may not be reliable. It will be interesting to see if anyone is actually able to take advantage of the law in Armenia, or if the ECJ ruling has any effect on Lithuania and Latvia, or the IACHR on Peru etc. I still think it's amazing how fast things are moving. And if there's anywhere in the Arab world things might get better, I wonder if it might be Tunisia. — kwami (talk) 04:45, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Hello sir (or ma'am) Thanks for caring Actually my main concerning is translatiin lgbt pages into the arabic content (cos its missing a lot u know why) Believe me sir im not editing much or vandalising Just seeing edits that are made in one pages but not in others for example Unfortunately things are getting worse in the muslim and arab words My country is so good and liberal in laws and mentality when it comes to women's rights racial religious minorities even by the new constitution sometimes better than most western countries for example there is no unequal pay gay between sexes since our indipe dance and no polygamy although its a muslim country population But unfortuanyely not when it comes to lgbt rights and people but people are waking up and even politicians are starting to talk about it and about decriminisation i hope we have ot soon but im not that hopeful really I dont know who are u or where are u from but if ur in a country where its not a crime and there are some even not all protections Ur lucky Thx ur one of the few edotors whom i always follow and see their good updates in various things especially languages and lgbt rights Lets all hope for the better thx

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Thank you. Largoplazo (talk) 19:37, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

draft article
Hey Adam,

I think you should get credit for your article. I thought it would be moved to mainspace, so you'd be in the article history, not just copied. Do you care? I can try to fix it if you want. Ping me if you do. — kwami (talk) 03:36, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

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France
I was thinking of creating a map based on this article showing the percentage of same-sex marriages in the French departments for "Same-sex marriage in France". Do you think that would be a good idea? Jedi Friend (talk) 18:20, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes a very good one too

I always thought and want that i would like to do a same-sex marriage in the French overseas territories too It will highlight different departments and collectivities and its population and the year since and those who offer PACS too As it is done with the british ones i know it wil not be the same But they are jurisdictions with populations and so Up to u AdamPrideTN (talk) 21:55, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

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— kwami (talk) 04:25, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Of course, always keep up the good work, will do it too as soon as posdible, Cheers! AdamPrideTN (talk) 04:50, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

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Page rename discussion
Hi AdamPrideTN !

I hope you are doing well. I just proposed moving Same-sex marriage under United States tribal jurisdictions to Same-sex marriage in Sovereign Nations in the United States on its Talk Page. Would you like to contribute to the discussion?

Thanks and have a great day!

-TenorTwelve (talk) 23:03, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi of course! thx! Cheers! AdamPrideTN (talk) 03:49, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

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 * oh really sorry i didn't know that i'm new here, would u please reopen that edit and tell me how and what to do so it wouldn't cos a violation

I know that u blocked the edit can u reopen it and allow me to rectify my mistake and show me how please really need to learn that And would u please open all that of LGBT rights in Vietnam so i would edit and copyedit so it wouldn't be a violation Thx! AdamPrideTN (talk) 18:00, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
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 * Sorry sorry

I promise i will read this and will be always more careful in the future Thx for pointing that out Sorry for my mistakes too Cheers! AdamPrideTN (talk) 15:13, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Candidates v. holders of political offices
First of all, thank you for your many edits to pages like List of the first LGBT holders of political offices, which you've immeasurably improved over many years! You've made a couple of edits to that page in recent days that I wanted to pick up on. You've added some candidates for political offices (first candidate for president, etc.). Given that the page is entitled "holders of political offices", I'm pretty uncomfortably about adding unsuccessful candidates who never held the office. As such, I propose to delete the candidates who were never elected. Given your great efforts to edit this and other pages, I thought I'd mention it to you here before going ahead with reverting those additions. Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks again for all your hard work improving Wikipedia! Lincolnite (talk) 17:28, 7 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi that's ok you are right, sorry i conflicted the word politician as in the caregories and holder. Ok will do now

No need to revert please just edit it out or i will look now and do it thx And its easy to update those unfortunately some stay years before being done Just a simple search for LGBT politicians by nationality categories or a politician name and so on Thx AdamPrideTN (talk) 17:43, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Done for the three name candidatates i remember adding If there are others or other candidayes not holders feel free to delete them Thx for reminding me Will be more focused next time Cheers!! AdamPrideTN (talk) 17:51, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Lincolnite (talk) 10:22, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

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Hi ok thx but i didn't take anything from LGBT history in South Korea it was from LGBT rights in South Korea and those were my edits if u check carefully the history of that page, i think i copied some info about a poll yes So ok will read it if not i will ask u on another occassion Thx AdamPrideTN (talk) 11:01, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
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 * I see and understand and got it, thanks, will do and be

more careful next time, thx cheers!AdamPrideTN (talk) 13:43, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

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And i hope even if u decide that i will not be able to edit again, i hope that u unblock me to be able to take references, and all and i promise that i will not make any new even the simplest edit ever again if it comes to that as a final solution which is a pity afyer a full year and more than 4000 edits mostly updates and all but ok! I promise i will be very careful next time and if not i promise i will never make a single edit ever with English wiki but i need the sources and edits for the Arabic one which i'm translating these pages for.AdamPrideTN (talk) 01:34, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
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 * I think there is the case of quotes or speeches for example from the source.
 * I intend too by giving what i intend to post to another friend editor soecialised in lgbt rights and in copyediting and more experienced than me in this, and to strictly try not to make that mistake or as in this pne make ot just like a paraphrase, i know i have been warned beflre and made a big mistake, but as i said i need this profile cos it is linked to the arabic one, which i need to take references and sources from to the arabic one.
 * In case you aren't unblocked: You don't have to be logged in here to see and copy the source code. I understand that when you're logged into Arabic Wikipedia you're also logged in here automatically through the joint account, but you can acccess one Wikipedia in an incognito/anonymous window in your browser and the other in a regular window, and then log into Arabic Wikipedia while remaining anonymous in English Wikipedia.
 * Even so: While I don't know what the rules of Arabic Wikipedia say specifically about copyright, I do know that copyright law still applies when you copy from English Wikipedia to Arabic Wikipedia, and English Wikipedia has guidelines you have to follow when copying from English Wikipedia to anywhere. Copyright law applies even when you're translating text rather than copying it directly. Have you made sure that you're following all applicable rules when translating material from here into Arabic? (I'm not talking about copying references, I'm referring to text content.) Largoplazo (talk) 10:35, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Your answers to the questions about copyright are not generally accurate. For example, you falsely claim that copyright is mainly a US thing. Please take the time to read WP:COPYRIGHT and WP:FAIRUSE and reconsider your answers. --Yamla (talk) 11:01, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

What's going on here?
Can someone link to the discussions/warnings? I gave some advice to this user -- who doesn't seem to understand the rules very well but isn't malicious -- on a personal-attack problem, and now his comments on my talk page have been reverted and I see him blocked for (according to this talk page) copy-vio -- what appears from the above to be copy-violating his own material, which I find odd -- or (according to his user page) being suspected of being a sockmaster, which is again a bit odd, as there's no suspicion (or anything sneaky) about it -- he created a patently obvious duplicate account when blocked. Which yeah of course is not allowed, but isn't sockpuppetry. But since he was already indefinitely blocked for copy-vio, how could he be blocked for socking? And why aren't there any warnings for the real copyvio issues that must have occurred, because I can't believe anyone would be blocked for copying their own material from one article to another, or for translating it from one language to another -- if that were how things worked, most of us would've been indef blocked years ago. Or why there wasn't a ramping block. That is, the process appears highly irregular from what I can see here, so I think it would be a good idea to provide links to where the regular process occurred. — kwami (talk) 00:59, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * , Actually, it is sockpuppetry as he used it to circumvent a block. From Sock_puppetry: Adam9007 (talk) 01:34, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah, I though sockpuppetry was creating fake independent accounts (e.g. to sway a debate or win an edit war), and that block-evasion was something else. But still, you tagged his use page as being blocked for sockpuppetry, which according to his block lock isn't what happened. — kwami (talk) 01:37, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * This account was originally blocked for copyvios. There's really no point in unblocking it and then re-blocking it for sockpuppetry. The other account has been blocked for sockpuppetry, with this one as the master. Adam9007 (talk) 01:41, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay. Do you know where the copyvio decision is? — kwami (talk) 02:00, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Copyvio decision? Adam9007 (talk) 02:03, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes. He was blocked for copyvio. Couldn't have been what's here on the talk page, so there must've been a discussion, series of warnings, something somewhere else. I think that should be linked to under the block thread, so others can tell what's going on. — kwami (talk) 02:17, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * There are numerous copyright warnings above the block thread. Adam9007 (talk) 02:28, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I read them. But, for one thing, you don't block someone indefinitely the first time around. You use escalating blocks. And some of the warnings above were "your attributions need to be more precise". That's not a blockable offence. Also, you don't block someone for copying their own words. And paraphrasing/summarizing in order to repeat what a source said but evading copyright by saying it in your own words is difficult even for college students writing in their native language, let alone for someone who appears to be quite young and whose command of writing and of English isn't great. You may advise a mentoring program or something, but not block indefinitely straight out of the gate. So, assuming good faith on part of the admin, there must be more to this, somewhere. It would be good to know where. — kwami (talk) 02:17, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The reason I use an indef block is because if we do it that way the editor cannot resume editing until they provide us with a clear statement that demonstrates that they have read and understand our copyright policy and intend to follow it in the future. There's been many people who simply resume what they were doing, to the detriment of the encyclopedia. Copyright is a very serious issue and this is one of the ways we are trying to control it. Sorry if that seems harsh. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 03:20, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, that makes sense. Not sure AdamPrideTN understands that's what's going on, though. With the personal-attack thing, he kept saying we wasn't attacking the other editor, but kept calling him a 'vandal', and so kept getting warned about making personal attacks. I don't think he understood why -- he didn't seem to understand that the word itself was considered a personal attack, and no-one spelled it out for him. He was told repeatedly to read the guidelines, but I don't know how well he reads English. Even if you dump it all in GTrans, you might not get much out that's coherent (Eng <-> Arabic tends to produce a lot of gibberish), so just instructing someone with limited English to read the guidelines might not be very constructive. — kwami (talk) 03:53, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * But that's not what I did. Please see, where I offered some general advice on how to avoid copyright issues, with links to some relevant exercises he could try. AdamPrideTN received 4 warnings for copyright violation, and added copyright content two hours after I issued a final warning. I didn't immediately block after that, but gave one more chance. I issued the block 10 days later. Like you, I realise that English might not be their first language. That's a problem, not only for not being able to understand our expectations, but also for Wikipedia editing in general. People with a language barrier have trouble re-writing material in their own words, because they don't know the language well enough to do so. Hence resorting to copy-paste. Indefinite block is not a permanent block; if the user can show they now understand our expectations, I'll unblock and will monitor their contribs. Suggesting mentoring sounds like a great idea, but there's nobody actually doing that, and I assess over 50 potential copyright violations per day out of the 75-100 reports at CopyPatrol. If I spend all my editing time mentoring, there's nobody to do the patrolling.Warnings for failing to provide attribution are not really relevant for the block, because I don't block for that. After 3 or four warnings I give up and simply add the attribution myself. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 17:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Too bad. Yeah, you've got other stuff to do! But we used to have a mentoring program here. I'm not that active anymore, and don't know the copyright issues that well myself. — kwami (talk) 20:11, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

i think it is useless to try and say that yes it's true English is not my first language and that however i am a master student of English and that i have good and i wouldn't say perfect or near perfect English language capabilities, and that my intention was first to focus in translating the LGBT content pages to Arabic wikipedia, But I was forced to edit here too after seeing that many important updates and edits and typos go unnoticed many times with some pages unapdated for years, and i managed to do well in that for a year, till the copyedit warnings started and i understood that very quickly as i understood the Moneyspender user problem (a bit late yes and i'm sorry for that). I understood and read about using their own words and not copy paste but the latest Japenese poll, I tried my best to change and copyedited, but seem to fell short in that as it was all important info about percentage of politicians voting intention that not much more can be changed into. Anyway i implore to Mr. to restore the latest edits in LGBT rights in Japan as they are all important copyedited content that have no problem (that only it was from a banned other account or IP) and that it's a pity i really liked editing and updating and translating and talking with other editors, well a pity, thx for taking that from me mrs Dianna, i think i will not be able to persuade and other administrators into lifting this block on my account so it is useless to even try, my stupidity in creating the second account and the IP prevented me even from just being able to take the references to Arabic pages, well a pity!! Thank you Mr. and please thank and others from me. AdamPrideTN (talk) 19:01, 18 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Adam, yes, evading the block rather than resolving it was a mistake. But even if you want to just give up here on WP-en rather than resolving the issues (as Dianna noted above, the block was designed to be lifted once you resolved them), there's certainly no reason not to contimue on WP-ar. And if you see vandalism, POV violations, bad sources, dated material, new developments that have been overlooked etc. here on WP-en, you can certainly give us a heads-up. E.g., nearly every one of Moneyspender's edits have been reverted by someone or other -- there's clearly a POV / RS problem there.
 * As for your English, if you don't mind my advice, yes you've mastered the mechanics of it just fine. The problem I have reading your writing are the run-on sentences. Sometimes by the end of one of your sentences, I'm confused as to whether you agree or disagree with the point, or even what the point is. The WP article at the link said run-on sentences are a grammatical error, which is nonsense. They're a stylistic issue. But you truly do need to have near perfect mastery of a language before you can get away with them, and you're not quite there. James Joyce could write sentences several pages long, but he was a master writer. If I tried to do that the result would be jibberish. As an L2 speaker, it's probably a good idea to keep your sentences on the short-n-sweet side, just to be safe.
 * — kwami (talk) 20:09, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * thx Mr. i know and i understand all that, but i think it is useless as mr dianna and mr yamla and other admins will not listen or try to understand, so it's useless, also i only have the phone to access wikipedia so i think it's useless to ask mrs Dianna to unblock the IP adress to allow to copy the reference content to Arabic pages without editing, and if I make any kind of edit she can block me, so again a pity and i'm sure it will not lead  anywhere, well a pity. Just like my whole life is, so what is new!

Thx anyway

would u please take care of the last edits i made on a week ago on the LGBT rights in Mongolia page. Thx!

If you can't edit on the Arabic Wikipedia, try logging out on this wiki and then logging in on the Arabic Wikipedia. Nardog (talk) 20:14, 18 August 2019 (UTC)


 * thx but i xan easily still edit in Arabic Wikipedia and any other one, i need the references of the English wiki pahes to pit them in the translated Arabic pages. Now i can't bcos of blog on the IP too (mainly yes bcos my stupidity).


 * I'm confused. You should be able to open an edit window and see the code, and copy the refs. Only the 'save' option should be disabled. Just as when an article is edit-protected, you can still access the code. Am I wrong? — kwami (talk) 08:25, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


 * No i can't access it or open in a day (again bcos of my stupidity) i was blocked 3 times one from this account, one for the second account both indifently and one from the IP of my phone, the first two I understand, but the IP one was injust as i just was restoring my ither perfectly fine edits on LGBT rights in Japan page. I understand the edit about the poll was problematic and needed to be blocked but the others were not, and were all injustly reverted by the administrators. So now for example after a virtual year journey in the countries i'm in the last ones which are Japan, the philippines and India (+ Loas which i asked Mr Jedi Friend to update since it wasnt in years) now i translated these pages as usual, but now i can'tvcreate them in Arabic wiki bcos even my IP address of the only phone I use was blocked for a month till 18 September. So i can't even access the edit button to just take the references without editing. AdamPrideTN (talk) 12:57, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry to lose the value that you've brought to Wikipedia, but, honestly, even here you're showing that you just WP:DONTGETIT. You were blocked. It should have been perfectly obvious that that meant that you, the person behind your blocked account, because of a series of actions by you, the person, were not supposed to be editing any longer on Wikipedia, unless and until a time when they block would be removed. Yet you apparently thought to yourself that if you created another account or if you edited without logging in, then your edits would be welcome again. And then you persisted in editing again. And again. And again. Even after your edits that you were supposed to know you shouldn't be making were reverted with edit summaries like "remove sock edit" and "block evasion", you kept trying again. And, after all that, here you are complaining that the reversions of your edits were made "injustly". No, they were not. "Blocked" doesn't mean "you can't edit unless you figure out a way to get around the block, and, if you do, all your edits will be as valid as if you hadn't been blocked". While you're blocked, your edits are not welcome, and every reversion was perfectly just and proper.
 * Your pattern of refusing to get the point has persisted, and you are solely responsible for the current situation. It's an unfortunate outcome, but under the circumstances it was unavoidable. Largoplazo (talk) 14:47, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


 * , thx but i assure even if it was late, i got and understood the dispute with moneyspender and apologised many times for him and maintained my promise that i will not call or address him ever again and that i should leave it to more experienced editors which i did, and that the mistake with him or any other will never be repeated. The warnings about the copyedit violations at first i got that too and changed it all and read what i have to do, the poll on the Japenese page, i tried to changed it as best as i could but it was a poll with nimumbers and party names nothing much can be done. I tried, the editor who blocked me said it was more of a paraphrase. That edit ok, but the others i assure u all were unjustly removed too, since they had no problem in them. Again tt first i wasn't interesting in Eng WP, it was only the Arabic one. I had no problems there, just some homophobia of religious editors thats it from time which was resolved by talk. Also, i didnt know the rule of the sock pupet at first. well i will see and try to get this unblock fone, but i think that admins have set their minds on no, so i think it will be useless, but i will try. Thx for caring AdamPrideTN (talk) 15:07, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Even here: I'm talking to you about your behavior after you were blocked, and you're not hearing that, because your response goes all the way back to Moneyspender and your copyright violations rather than my remarks. Even here, the consistent issue is the number of times people have to make a new point to you before you get that point. Now you not only have a history of being late to understand the issue with Moneyspender and late to understand the copyright issue, but you're late to understand that you can't edit when you're blocked, and you're late to understand the points I tried to convey to you above.
 * The first time an edit you made while blocked was reverted, you should have gotten the message, "Oh, I'm not supposed to edit while I'm blocked", rather than repeating your action and then complaining that the reverts were unfair. The first time I pointed out to you, just above, that the reverts were totally fair, and explained why, you should have gotten my point. Largoplazo (talk) 16:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The bottom line is not whether you finally learned this lesson or that lesson, but that each lesson has required, and continues to require, a lot of effort by others before you grasp it. Largoplazo (talk) 16:48, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


 * again, i know all that but those edits had no problem in them and were copyedited by me and first reinstated by an editor, then were all reverted. That's what i meant, yes I shouldn't relstated them after that, but i'm stupid, so what can be done! Nothing. It's all useless in the end so, thx anyway.AdamPrideTN (talk) 18:09, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


 * , now u see for example how many important edits go unnoticed, a pity that it's been nearly a month since the Trans bill in india was passed by the Lok Sabha, and of course no edit to reflect that, i was planning to do it, plus many update edits i already restored for the philippines about the anti-discrimination bill and same-sex unions and many others about conversion therapy and other matters in Switzerland France and Germany (since most of these sites are in French, German) that i can easily read, even the Spanish ones like the trans law referendum in Uruguay, u see i'm not saying i'm perfect or oh look at the other editors they are not doing anything, no never, but i really liked translating that and updating it by myself sometimes. Well thats gone now even from the IP. I guess today i will try again answering those questions and try to get this unblock, but I think its a lost cause as the two main editors set their minds (even u unjustly) on me that i am not a native speaker, and i even need mentoring (which i don't).

If that's the only way Then from here i will continue to just ask you to do some edits from my part and give you the updates and tell u where it goes. Thx! AdamPrideTN (talk) 13:07, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


 * I thought your failure to understand was a language problem -- that's why my comments above about your English ability -- but maybe it's not. Note Largoplazo's comments above on 'not getting it'. Would this still be difficult if we were all writing in Arabic? WP is a collaborative forum, not a personal blog.  There are certain rules of behaviour that are enforced because, unfortunately, without those rules WP would turn into garbage, due to people who would take advantage of more openness, or who just aren't qualified to edit. (Think of some of the people you've been in conflict with, if they could write anything they liked without rules. We'd have 8,000 badly written articles on Pokemon characters!) With copyvio, there's the issue of legal repercussions. The rules need to be enforced, even against you, even if you're making valuable edits, because without those rules WP would be chaos. I want you to continue editing here. But if the cost of allowing you to contribute, in the difficulties and chaos that you cause, is greater than the value of your contributions, then we're going to have problems. Now you say that I'm being 'unjust' for pointing out why you're having problems, when I've been one of the few people standing up for you, trying to work with you so that you can continue to contribute here. I started this thread in the hope that I could show that your block was unwarranted or too extreme and get it lifted. That is, I was hoping to argue that you were being treated unjustly. But you aren't engaging the rest of WP in a sociable manner, you aren't showing that you understand this is a collaborative endeavour, and without that understanding, it's going to be very difficult for you to collaborate here.
 * As for getting people to edit for you, there are limits there too. Sending someone a text file and having them paste it into an article is just another kind of block-evasion, and is not tolerated. I'm not going to do that. But I will welcome a head-up on good sources, news of developments, biased edits or vandalism in articles, etc. It's just that I'll evaluate whether, and how, the article should be edited, based on my own judgement as an editor. (And whether I have time to do it at all.)
 * You live in a society where the social restrictions against you are extreme. Perhaps WP is your window to freedom. Unfortunately, it's not perfect freedom. It's still a society, there are still restrictive rules. If you feel the rules are too restrictive, you can campaign to get them changed. But meanwhile they are still the rules, and you need to abide by them, just as you need to obey the laws of your country until they change, if you want to continue to participate. Show that you 'get it', and hopefully we can get this block lifted for you to contribute again. But the onus is on you, to show that you do understand what the rules are. Really, it's not unlike being in prison and convincing a parole board that it's safe to release you back into society. Whether your incarceration was unjust or not, it's where you are. — kwami (talk) 18:08, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


 * I know all that. Believe me and i thank you for all. I o'ly said u were a bit unjust in questioning my English abilities. Again, I am not an English speaking native, however i understood all the rules when i read them. The latest edit as I said was a poll that i copyedit as best as i could, but she said it was only paraphrasing and blocked me indefenitly. I will try to get the unblock but i doubt they will listen. Thx again anyway for all.AdamPrideTN (talk) 19:32, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


 * I hope this is not considered block evasion, however on LGBT rights in South Korea in the pride parades, in the last sentence of the Incheon pride part can u please readd this as it was deleted it by Panda user, this was sourced content and it was removed by him

However, in early June authorities dropped the investigation into violence at the gay pride in Incheon. And also on the summary table, in the blood donation section can u change it and fix it to no/yes as it is with other countries with deferrals. Thank you. Oh also, would u be so kind and add this article title to See also in the military service section. The page name is Transgender personnel in the South Korean military. Also, fix the categories in both the lgbt right and recognition of unions pages from Category:LGBT in South Korea to Category:LGBT rights in South Korea since there is already a cteated category for that but it does not include the main two pages, as for other countries. ThxAdamPrideTN (talk) 22:35, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Also, hope by giving u sources and tell u what it is and not what i wrote and edited, it is not a block evasion. As u told me to give u sources or point out updates. Concerning the page of LGBT rights in Japan this source states the population percentage.

Really hope u can manage to update the page with these important infos. ThxAdamPrideTN (talk) 22:15, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk page access
You have access to this talk page solely so you can request an unblock. Do not abuse this by asking other editors to violate WP:MEAT and WP:EVADE and edit on your behalf. --Yamla (talk) 23:12, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Ok!! --AdamPrideTN (talk) 23:36, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Thailand
Hey. This was just posted on Academia.edu. There might be something worthwhile in it.

Worrawan Jirathanapiwat, "Same-sex marriage legalization in Thailand: possibilities and barriers with case studies from LGBT movement in Taiwan and Vietnam"

— kwami (talk) 17:16, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Category:LGBT in Oman has been nominated for merging
Category:LGBT in Oman has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 14:36, 12 February 2023 (UTC)