User talk:Adam Cuerden/Archive 5

Something you might want to page through
Boston Public Library American Art Posters 1890-1920 at Flickr. We hope (talk) 13:37, 31 July 2014 (UTC)


 * 19th century agricultural trade cards. Also at Flickr from BPL. We hope (talk) 13:42, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Very nice indeed. Shame they downsample to 1500px before uploading though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:33, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Featured Topics work
Moving this from ed17's page so he won't get bombarded from all of this. So I created the template right here. Hopefully I did it right. As well, I found this TfD that really shows how rough it was for the project back then. Kinda unsettling at that. Just wanted to add that last part. GamerPro64 02:48, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Better than featured sounds. I went on a couple months hiatus, and the person (who I shan't mention, but should have been able to do so) who promised to finish the work to implement a vote to get it on the main page didn't, and instead let the project be shut down, undoing iteral years of me building it up. I'm still fairly bitter about that. It's basically unreviveable, because, when I tried, a few people insisted we throw out literally all work done on the project as a condition of restarting it, which is too fucking stupid for words. Featured copntent processes need publicity, content, and time. The quality will improve over time, and the anti-pragmatists who want any new featured content process to spring fully-formed and perfect, like Athena from Zeus' head will only serve to ruin Wikipedia's chances of ever doing anything useful with sounds. And Wikipedia has lost a ton of potential content from this - a lot of the US Military band archives only make content available for a short time, for example, so if noone is actively working to get it, it's lost. A lot of Creative Content sound archives have signs of existing, but are now dead - there's a Handel's Messiah that was uploaded before I joined FS, but without the necessary documentation, and the site's now dead. FC projects are vital for encouraging good practices and for getting users access to content, and encouraging people to upload to Wikipedia. So, yeah... Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:12, 4 August 2014 (UTC)°
 * I know how that feels. I went on on a four month hiatus myself in 2012, which had resulted in some delegates coming and going in the process. Though if I didn't push for delegation to begin with, FT may have went the same route as Featured Sounds. Which is disheartening because FS is such an interesting process. So I guess with getting a script made for the project, it might help people take it a bit more seriously. GamerPro64  03:32, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Hmm. Before we go too far, have a look at Wikipedia_talk:Featured_topics/John_Douglas - a much nicer, neater template to use. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:25, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh you mean Template:Featuredtopictalk? That can be used to both FT and GT and automatically changes when the percentage of articles in the topic is below or over 50%. GamerPro64
 * Couldn't we just have it add a category to topics that have automatically updated, which gets turned off using a parameter? Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:42, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I honestly have no clue how that would work. GamerPro64  03:49, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * It's possible. I'd think using an "IF" command. But you might need to go to WP:VP/T to ask for help. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:15, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Seeing how I don't know what any of this means, I think I meant have problems explaining to the Village Pump about what I need help with. GamerPro64  04:33, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I could do that, I guess, but it would be nice to have a clear idea of what the template should encompass. So automatically changing categories, and? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:40, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Well, if the template already changes the status to featured, then it's fairly simple: Give all topics that are featured the category Category:Newly featured topics unless the parameter new=no is set.

Of course, I haven't looked into how it switches. If it requires manual editing when the article is featured, this isn't half as useful. Adam Cuerden (talk) 10:40, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't believe it requires manual editing when it comes to switches. But at times I do have to refresh a talk page to show its proper topic status. GamerPro64  17:04, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * That's fine; everything refreshes eventually, and it'll probably be more often than manually checking for things that have passed the threshhold. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:39, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * So I started up a thread at the Village Pump right here to see if this idea can work out. Not exactly familiar on how VP works anyhow. GamerPro64  01:34, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm getting nothing at the pump and I don't know anyone know specializes in writing up this kind of code. Unless you or any of your talk page stalkers know anyone that can do this, I may have to just keep an eye on the process closer than usual. GamerPro64  02:13, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, is that why you went there? I can do it; it's fairly simple, but we need to discuss what the functionality should be first. Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:28, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * This is too much. But enough with all this egg on my face. What I'm thinking is that something along the lines of how Category:Possible Wikipedia four award articles works. When a new Featured Topic is created, a category keeps track and see if it transitioned from GT to FT or if it immediately became a Featured Topic. Something like that. GamerPro64  03:06, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Right. I'll need a little time to review the code, which I can't do before next week, but that's more-or-less what I was thinking. Of course, this is presuming the auto-promotion works; that's the other thing to check. Might be an idea to make a dummy FT, using user-space articles. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:14, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm okay with waiting on getting the code checked on. I'll just figure out what to do by then. GamerPro64  03:22, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Halftoning?
Question: do you think that (after flyspecking) this could stand a chance at FPC? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:39, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks more like a photogravure than halftoning to me. Think resolution and scan quality is going to be the issues here, but it's not, inherently, unfeatureable. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:01, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * It's sadly how archive.org does their scans (original page; halftoning, if that's what it is, is more evident there). Only 3xxx pixels in height, and a lot of that was whitespace. I'll try and find a copy at the LOC... who knows, maybe they have negatives that they scanned. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:10, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Published in 1893 as a wood engraving (LOC), but the image I have is obviously a photograph. Probably the basis of the engraving. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:15, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I suspect you're better off getting someone to interlibrary loan the book than using archive.org, then. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:27, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Not in Indonesia . Shame... it is quite a nice photograph. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:28, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The book isn't that expensive. - maybe we can find someone in America willing to san all the images for it 600 dpi? Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:32, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Godot would be my first choice if things were to come to that. Mind, I am pretty damn bad at removing halftoning. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:36, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Necromancing this thread back to life. Expect developments soon. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:50, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Ooh, I'm interested. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:15, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Moving stuff

 * Do your movers' rights on Commons extend to categories? I goofed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:45, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I think that's a little more complicated. Try putting in a request at commons:User:CommonsDelinker
 * Okay, tagged with commons:Template:Category redirect — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:25, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

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Featured picture candidates/Bank of North America banknote (1789)
Sort of off-topic for the nomination page, but worth knowing- Today, there are grading companies that evaluate banknotes, encapsulate them in mylar and assign a grade. If a note has room to spare with uneven margins, dealers (generally) will trim the edges to create a perfect margin scenario. The benefit (depending on the rarity of the note) in a high uncirculated grade (Very Choice to Gem) could be anywhere from a few hundred to tens of thousands of dollars.--Godot13 (talk) 00:58, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * ...Ye gods.... Adam Cuerden (talk) 07:27, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * But the historicity of the note!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:28, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The whole practice is nothing short of butchery...-Godot13 (talk) 07:48, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:52, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Gazelle
SMS Gazelle was nominated before, wasn't it? Sca (talk) 13:24, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * No, but it's been done a long time. I've been holding off on it, as, well, as I said, least favourite. Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:32, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Alas, I just don't like the red hull paint. Sca (talk) 21:35, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Think that's one of the big reasons I held off on nominating it. But I got nothin' else for a bit. =) 86.143.102.33 (talk) 11:10, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Cryptic message?
I'm hoping this will make more sense to you than it does to me: "Ahem, *cough* *cough* Van Gogh self portrait" ... think back a bit. SagaciousPhil  -  Chat  19:46, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes. Will get on that. Sorry, theatre month. The Festival is upon Edinburgh. Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:33, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Enjoy
Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 22:06, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Heh. Hey, you approved it. =P Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:13, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
 * It seems to have gone over alright, by which mean no one has screamed yet. ;-) I don't mind borderline titles as long as they aren't racy or sexist! As for other SP matters, what are you planning with the MediaViewer/WikiCup pieces, and will the Godot interview happen, or should I postpone it for an undetermined future date? Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 03:25, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Cancel the Godot for now, I'll get him at 200. I'll try to finish up the others this week. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:38, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
 * That's fine, but can we delay the Media Viewer piece by two weeks or so? We've got at least one, maybe two, opinion pieces this week. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:25, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Guys, I can do the FA part of FC (minus the templates) for another couple of weeks if you like, and we'll see how it goes. (FWIW, I would have voted for "Bottoms and Asses", but the few times I've seen something on Wikipedia that I wanted to tone down, no one agreed with me, so I'm probably not the best judge.) - Dank (push to talk) 18:51, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

FAC
To all and sundry, near and far: Jules Massenet, the second greatest composer born in 1842, is now at FAC. If you have time and inclination to look in, it will be esteemed a favour.  Tim riley  talk    21:40, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Images on Existing WWI Articles
Maybe add a few words indicating that you'd really like WP:GLAM/Pritzker to update existing articles with photos provided by others to PMML photos that meet the 300 DPI criteria minimum. That way our Wikipedians-in-Residence won't think you are critiquing their current efforts. Pritzker's Fall 2014 group will start in 2 weeks or so. TeriEmbrey (talk) 17:33, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Pictor
Hey Adam, any old images/depictions of Pictor around? Article is at FAC and one reviewer has suggested they might be good to add....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:48, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
 * My southern constellation resources are currently weak once you go past the original twelve, and the ones that are fairly northerly. I presume you don't insist on FP-quality, though, so why not just grab from http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/pictor.htm ? That's Bode's Uranographia, which is pretty notable. Crop's a bit tight, but... Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:06, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
 * There wouldn't be any copyright issues...would there? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:14, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
 * PD-Art. Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:45, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CI, August 2014
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Hi
You'll want to see my last [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikipedia_Signpost%2FNewsroom&diff=621877276&oldid=621788756 note] in the newsroom... and I moved your Media Viewer and WikiCup pieces to User:Adam_Cuerden/Sandbox/Media_Viewer and User:Adam_Cuerden/Sandbox/WikiCup to make everything easier for Jarry. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:43, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Your opinion...
Hi Adam-

I would like to ask your opinion on something. I have scanned, restored, and prepped this set and inserted about two-thirds in this list. I do not plan to try and make these the main image for any of the individual articles (though finding a way to insert them elsewhere in the article would be nice). Recalling earlier issues regarding cropping, do you feel that these are appropriately cropped for placement in the list and possibly somewhere in the body of the corresponding individual articles? Thanks.-Godot13 (talk) 02:25, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * They look fine, although, given the list uses such small images, I could see using a more extreme crop in the list, but I don't think you could then nominate them as a set, since the current crop is the best for all other uses, so it'd be nominations based on other uses... awkward. Better to avoid that, or, at most, crop a little tighter left and right. Also, of course, if there's no image of them in the article, of course make them the lead, but I presume that was already going to happen. Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:55, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I went through to see how many could be entered in the articles (without forcing images where they don't belong) and over half were okay as "other uses" (articles in addition to the list, only two cases did I replace a truly bad and very small existing lead image). I'll probably just leave them as is- the point was to create portraits, not clipped images for info boxes... The last month seemed very slow at FPC, I hope that picks up soon. Thanks again for the feedback.-Godot13 (talk) 19:59, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I think I figured out a way to make the images work in the list. No images were harmed in the process...Godot13 (talk) 04:49, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Wow. No idea how accessible that is, but still... wow. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:58, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

33rd Alabama Infantry -- Just sayin' thanks...
Adam, I know some folks don't care for barnstars, so I hope you don't mind me sending you this one. You put a lot of time into your review and feedback on 33rd Alabama Infantry, and I just wanted to say thanks. Cheers! - Ecjmartin (talk) 01:14, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

That is really kind of you! I'm sorry I'm kind of inactive just now. Think I overcommitted myself a little bit to Edinburgh Festival stuff. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:09, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Jean de Paleologu - Jules Massenet - Sapho.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on September 5, 2014. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2014-09-05. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:22, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

FC
Hi Adam—TTT's note at the Signpost talkpage might be useful. I'm presuming you're fine for the next edition's FC? Ed won't be back until the week after. Tony  (talk)  12:07, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I guess that's a "yes", since you didn't bother responding. Tony   (talk)  03:48, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I responded there. FC's done, pretty much. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:04, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem, Adam. Ed might gradually be returning. Tony   (talk)  04:05, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Adam, I took a look and it appears to be ready to go this week. You fine with that? Tony   (talk)  06:41, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thought I had said so. Publish away. Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:50, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Cardinal de Richelieu.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on September 9, 2014. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2014-09-09. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:49, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Any interest in this?

 * poster
 * page 1
 * page 2

The Dollar Princess-from 1909--she has what looks to be some other nice things posted too. We hope (talk) 02:26, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:Nancy Storace Portrait By Pietro Bettelini 2.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on September 12, 2014. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2014-09-12. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:59, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 August newsletter
The final of the 2014 WikiCup begins in a few short minutes! Our eight finalists are listed below, along with their placement in Round 4:


 * , a WikiCup newcomer, finished top of Pool A and was the round's highest scorer. Godot is a featured picture specialist, claiming large numbers of points due to high-quality scans of historical documents, especially banknotes.
 * 1) is a WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist every year since 2010. In the semi-final, he was Pool B's highest scorer. Cas's points primarily come from articles on the natural sciences.
 * 2) was Pool A's runner-up. Czar's points come mostly from content related to independent video games, including both articles and topics.
 * 3) was Pool B's runner-up. Another featured picture specialist, many of Adam's points come from the restoration of historical media. He has been a WikiCup finalist twice before.
 * 4) won the WikiCup in 2012 and 2013, and enters this final as the first wildcard. She focuses on biology-related articles, and has worked on several high-importance articles.
 * 5) is the second wildcard. George's points come primarily from meteorology-related articles. This year and last year, George was the first person in the competition to score.
 * , the third wildcard, was the 2010 champion and a finalist last year. His writes mostly on military history, especially naval history.
 * , the fourth and final wildcard, has participated in previous WikiCups, but not reached any finals. Bloom's points are mostly thanks to did you knows, featured lists and good articles related to sport and national symbols.

We say goodbye to this year's semi-finalists. ,, , , , and  have all performed well to reach this stage of the competition, and we hope they will all be joining us again next year.

There are two upcoming competitions unrelated to the WikiCup which may be of interest to those who receive this newsletter. The Stub Contest will run through September, and revolves around expanding stub articles, especially high-importance or old stubs. In addition, a proposal has been made for a new competition, the GA Cup, which the organisers plan to run next year. This competition is based on the WikiCup and aims to reduce the good article review backlog.

There is now a thread for brainstorming on how next year's WikiCup competition should work. Please come along and share your thoughts- What works? What doesn't work? What needs changing? Signups for next year's competition will be open soon; we will be in touch. If, at this stage of the competition, you are keen to help the with the WikiCup, please do what you can to participate in review processes. Our finalists will find things much easier if the backlogs at good article candidates, featured article candidates, featured picture candidates and the rest are kept at a minimum. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. and 22:09, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Quick question for you about cleaning up a scanned photo
Is there much that a photo expert can do to this photo without getting it scanned again? We have a much smaller version already in Commons and it would be nice to upgrade it.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:47, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Forgot to mention that I've got Photoshop and can probably at least clean up the moiré pattern if it's not too complicated.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:59, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, that image link is US-only. If you want mmy advice, though? The original sources are not particularly expensive; I'd personally just get a copy of the originals. You'll get better outcomes AND a useful source. Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:06, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:22, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Historical coats of arms of the U.S. states from 1876
Hi Adam- I'm prepping this article's images for FP. If the offer to further review/clean some of them up a bit still stands (also pinging Crisco), I'll see about getting the TIFs loaded sooner (24 hours) rather than later (a week). Thanks--Godot13 (talk) 00:04, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not too crazy about losing all the paper detail. Looks like you applied a mask to the paper and smoothed it all out, yet the lithographs (or whatever prints they used) still have paper texture. There are also a few missing flecks that I'd be tempted to fix, but the first point is my main concern. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:11, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd like to do a bit more cleaning, actually. Lots of little threads and such on the images. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:25, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * @Crisco- I wasn't too fond of sacrificing the paper texture (see the "middle version" of each of the files), but I was unable to get the paper tone and shading to match across the images, knowing they would be presented (in the article) as a "set". There was also a light reddish hue that I couldn't get rid of (while keeping the texture). Barring going back to the beginning, I'll load the TIFs for the current files later today.-Godot13 (talk) 02:11, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * A light reddish hue... what if you went in (assuming Photoshop) the Raw Filter and increased the green in the pink/green balance? Just under the warmth slider. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:18, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd have said RGB white points would work better, as the darker colours are about right. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:11, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I generally use three computers in two different locations. I need to try and find the "middle" version raw files...--Godot13 (talk) 03:27, 4 September 2014 (UTC) FYI- the original scans were made in 2011 when I had access to the book. I didn't fully appreciate lossless files so they were all scanned as JPEG and converted for future editing. Regretful in hindsight, but I was just discovering scanning at the time.--Godot13 (talk) 03:30, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Damn. I know how that feels (almost all my pre-2013 restorations...) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:30, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Still figuring out uploading TIF files (as it took me a few hours just to get the first few files accepted by the Upload wizard). I can't find the middle-stage lossless files, so I started uploading what's currently in the article (title page and the first three states). Will finish tomorrow (later today for you). ping -Godot13 (talk) 05:41, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Adam and Crisco- all the TIF files are loaded and linked to the images in the article. I hope to be able to put this up for FP in about a week or less, if possible. Thanks in advance for your help on these.--Godot13 (talk) 20:54, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco & Adam- If you can let me know which images (if any) you might want to work on, I will do minor cleaning on the remaining files. Thanks--Godot13 (talk) 20:10, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

A Barnstar

 * I hope that's a good thing. I do like to think I have some tact. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:37, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It is good.-Godot13 (talk) 22:56, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Disappearance of Beverly Potts
Would you be interested in helping me expand Disappearance of Beverly Potts?

There's plenty of information about her on the web, but i don't want to break any copyrights. Paul Austin (talk) 10:46, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

FC
Thanks, Adam. And if you hadn't been co-author we could have made more of your lovely restoration. At some stage, if you can put your hands on a suite of befores-and-afters, an emailed interview of you, on photographic restoration, would be good for the SP (and could easily be technical, I think, if non-experts can be drawn to understand). Tony  (talk)  12:17, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, I always upload the befores; I suppose that one might also benefit from a copy of what I've replaced [I've occasionally replaced the most awful copies and bad restorations], but that's usually easy enough to find. Would be delighted. Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:53, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I wonder if GIF's useful for showing a restoration? Flicking between two images is the easiest way to see what was done. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:53, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Emailing you lest it be a spolier. Tony   (talk)  00:06, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Have you actually sent it? I can't find it in my inbox, spam, or searching what at least used to be your address in April. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:31, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * They're talking about Wednesday US time publication: EEK. No stress if you're too busy to send reply in time: it can be run this or next week, fine. Tony   (talk)  08:18, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Hey Adam, when will you have time to finish FC? Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 02:31, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I should be able to Sunday. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:08, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Please ping me when you're done; I'd like to publish ASAP. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 17:45, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I've finished the FAs and FLs. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:34, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Let's publish, then. I'm going back to sleep - don't feel so well today. Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:13, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Hey Adam, just reminding you about FC. I'll take on the FAs and FLs after class, so if you can get as many FPs done as possible and copy/paste in descriptions for the rest, I'd be most appreciative! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 17:10, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I've done the first 40. Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:47, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Fanny Bullock Workman
Thank you for your unsigned comments on my talk page re Isopoda. Would you like to respond to mine at your Fanny Bullock Workman FAC page because I am trying to help it towards a conclusion. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:52, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey Adam, I came here to basically ask the same thing, to ask that you go over there and confirm that the sources are used correctly. It'd be a shame if it were failed after all our work!  I'm also pinging User:Wehwalt on your talk page for the same purpose.  Thanks! Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:43, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm in a show this week. It ends tonight, so I can get the sources checked by Wednesday, but I need to go into the library to do so, which is why I haven't yet. Shows really do eat up all free time sometimes. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:06, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, no problem, believe me I get busyness. I'll put a note on the FAC page requesting that it stay open for a few more days. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 05:23, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Lah dee dah

 * So how's everything? Just dropping by to show off offer any assistance you could want on getting images from pages with zoomable images. (Like the one on the left). If you have anything on your wishlist, let me know, and I'll try to help. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:42, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * As you may know, I'm in a musical about the life of the Brahan Seer this week. It's going very well. Last two shows are today, so I'll have some more time from Sunday. Also, as this is Scotland, and cast parties are the one time I let myself go with alcohol, will be hungover Sunday. Also, that is a gorgeous photograph. Do something with it. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:05, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't think you've mentioned that, at least to me. Sounds like a performance I'd enjoy. I may end up writing something on "logging in Indonesia", which is slightly distinct than deforestation in Indonesia which already exists. After that, a bit of clean-up, and... BTW, a couple other old photographs (absolutely lovely ones) are at Jacobus Anthonie Meessen. I was actually thinking of cleaning one up for FPC later today, once work is done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:26, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Shame their images are at such low JPG compression rates. It's like NASA. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:16, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:Sébah & Joaillier - Sultan Mehmed VI.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on October 3, 2014. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2014-10-03. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:53, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Little Nemo 1907-09-29


Could you let me know what you think about File:Little Nemo 1907-09-29.jpg? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 08:03, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks pretty damn good to me. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:49, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd forgotten I'd uploaded it. There are quite a few more memorable installments of the strip (I've uploaded them all), but none that're scanned as nicely I have to wonder what the source was—obviously not an original newspaper page (it would have ghosting from the reverse page like in this scan), and it doesn't look like it's from any of the book reproductions I've seen. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 11:09, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, a black sheet of paper behind the newspaper would have minimized bleed-through. Unless the paper was really, really thin or something.. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:12, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Well, I've never seen an actual newspaper page so old preserved so neat, tidy, bright & clean.  If only there were one like it of the walking bed episode or Befuddle Hall (or this one ). Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 12:18, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It could also be a later reproduction, of course. That would be much simpler. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:36, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm working on some very clean Caldecott drawings from that period. I think it's a matter of how many grubby hands get at it. Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:19, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you know why this file (Little Nemo 1907-09-29.jpg) isn't on Commons any more? Thanks for you help.Flazaza (talk) 14:30, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It looks like it is on Commons? Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:13, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It works. Now I can see it on Commons again. Thanks a lot.Flazaza (talk) 21:22, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

September Bugle
Hi Adam, if you wanted to take care of FPs in this month's Bugle, could you do so shortly as we'd like to get the issue out as soon as we can to include a reminder that voting in the MilHist coordinator election has commenced. If it's not convenient, just let me know and Nick-D or I will do the best we can with the FP section. Tks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:21, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I've roughed it in, using the brief descriptions from the showcase page (which I wrote, after all.) I'll need to add credits, and expand the descriptions a little bit, but everything is there, at least. Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:17, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Horace Greeley
Hi Adam. If you get the time, would it be possible for you to clean up one of the likenesses of Horace Greeley at File:Horace Greeley - NARA - 526061.tif and upload it as a jpg? Seems like we don't really have any high quality images of him. Connormah (talk) 02:14, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Is there any chance we could get a higher-resolution version? By the time that's cropped, it won't be eligible for featured picture. I mean, I'll gladly do things just because we need the image, but it would be nice to use my work to get Horace Greeley on the main page.
 * Of course, one possibility might be to do, though that's not half so engaging of a pose. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:01, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Might want to get into contact with User:Dominic at NARA, but I imagine getting new scans of these types of things isn't exactly easy. The second possibility could work though! Connormah (talk) 04:55, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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Mother and child
Hello Adam,

I don't want to clog up the nomination page too much so I'm writing on your TP. If I work on the photo myself by adding a bit of burn onto the white part, would that affect your vote? I am willing to do it myself if it will better your opinion of the photo. Cheers, Étienne Dolet (talk) 02:29, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I think a good case was made for leaving it. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:39, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

When anger spreads his wings
Hey Adam Cuerden! Just to note that you've forgot to upload. Anyways good restoration. Best, ///Euro Car  GT  21:31, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Uploading now. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:17, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CII, September 2014
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Sleeping Dogs FAC
German Joe reccomended that I contacted you to see if you were available to do a media check at the Sleeping Dogs FAC. URDNEXT (talk) 19:07, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Morpho didius
Could you closed my set nomination? Cheers, Armbrust The Homunculus 13:46, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Advice
Hi Adam

I'm thinking of writing a tutorial-style "learning pattern" on Meta, to provide recipients of WMF funding for photographic competitions with a fun puzzle experience in criticising technical flaws in pictures. The content would be drawn entirely from reviewers' comments at selected FPCs.

First, if I do this, might you be prepared to review and give feedback on the draft?

Second, is there a way of linking to or displaying earlier uploads of pics at reasonable size and without making people wait for five minutes to download them? Take this file history for example (FPC here). I'd like to be able to display |the very first upload down at the bottom, at 480 × 599 pixels, the same size as the most recent version at the top. Tony  (talk)  12:47, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd be willing to review, but remember I'm not a photographer, so you might be be better off getting, say, or, both of who know photography very well.
 * As for showing the original upload, honestly, I'd just reupload it with a new file name - if it serves a purpose, noone should complain (provided you make sure to state what that purpose is: I'd suggest a banner before the Information template. Adam Cuerden (talk) 12:51, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Agree with Adam on the second point. Did you take a look at What is a featured picture?/Examples of technical problems for inspiration? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:56, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Adam, and I'll certainly be asking Crisco and . Yeah, the re-upload idea seems like the least problematic. Crisco, yes, the examples of technical problems are very good and were quite easy to find when I thought about doing this, a few weeks ago. I'd like to focus on WLM-type subjects (buildings, etc), and wildlife, since they're probably the most relevant to WMF grants. I might even double up and use one or two of those examples, but there are plenty in the FPC archives, with critical commentary by reviewers and sometimes attempts to improve the original image (useful for training). The core design feature of the exercises would be a narrative question-and-answer technique that you'd click through while thinking about each picture, with intermediate hints; that has been quite successful in my language tutorials on en.WP, and I recently injected this approach into another learning pattern, Framing survey questions, which Jonathan Morgan (WMF), who's managing the LPs, quite liked. The blue hat boxes aren't ideal—I'd like to explore a less in-your-face colour/design. My only concern with those particular exercises is that they might be a little wordy and elaborate—not sure, and no feedback yet. Michael Maggs has already created two photography-related learning patterns (LPs) at Meta, which I've worked on a little, to his subsequent approval. They're a good entree to critical exercises based on actual examples, I think. And remember, I know nuffink about photography. I've asked about this before—maybe three years ago—but have lost it: there's a glossary of photography-related terms somewhere. Anyone know where? Tony   (talk)  15:43, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Featured picture candidates/Glossary for the FPC speak, and List of abbreviations in photography for abbreviations. Doesn't seem to be a general glossary on WP. Maybe on Commons. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:46, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Crisco. Tony   (talk)  02:25, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/State Arms of the Union (set)
Adam - Thank you for your support of this FP nominated set. Based on some feedback received from a reviewer, yesterday I started another round of light cleaning of the images to remove thread-like white fibers that could be found in the brown and black ink areas of the images. I do not expect to edit each image but have already completed 33 of 46. If for any reason the touch ups are not completed by the end of the nomination (approximately 24 hours), I will suspend the nomination. Thanks again for your support.

Okay, now that the form notification is out of the way... I'm planning to put up a mid-sized currency set next followed by the BEP engravings of the first 25 presidents (they come from the same book as the Treasury Secretaries and cover the same time span) and can be found here as JPEG files. If you feel that there is additional restoration necessary and would like to be a co-restorer I would welcome the help and will prioritize getting the restored TIF files loaded as soon as I am finished with the coats of arms. If you are not interested but would be willing to provide some feedback on what needs tweaking, that would also be appreciated. My hope is to avoid a mid-nomination frenzy to try and make corrections. Let me know what you think (soon please).--Godot13 (talk) 03:59, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:Kurz & Allison - Assault on Fort Sanders.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on October 19, 2014. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2014-10-19. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:22, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 September newsletter
In one month's time, we will know our WikiCup 2014 champion. Newcomer has taken a strong lead with a featured list (historical coats of arms of the U.S. states from 1876) and a raft of featured pictures. Reigning champion is in second place with a number of high-importance biology articles, including new FA Isopoda and new GA least weasel. , who is in his fifth WikiCup final, is in third, with featured articles Pictor and Epacris impressa.

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Scanning
Hi Adam. I think I should be able to get a good image of the charter by scanning it, but the problem is I would then need to crop it and I have never worked out how to edit pdfs. Is there a program I could use to edit it - or to convert it to jpg? Thanks if you can help. Dudley Miles (talk) 23:52, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Doesn't your scanning program offer any choice but PDF? Most offer TIFF and JPEG [TIFF is probably preferred] Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:57, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I do not have a program. I have an all in one printer (for my business) which has been set up so that when I press a button it scans to pdf. I will ask the engineers whether they can set it up to scan to jpeg or tiff. Dudley Miles (talk) 00:23, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Well, there's usually programs as well as buttons. Generally speaking, pressing the button will open a program to load up files for a PDF. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:27, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Anyway, if you can't get anything but PDF, I'll drop you an e-mail, so you can send me the PDF. I do have a way of extracting. Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:13, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I have found out how to scan to tiff and scanned it at, but it does not look good. Maybe my scanner is not good enough and I should get a copy shop to scan it to a usb? Thanks for your help. Dudley Miles (talk) 12:43, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Les misérables

 * Hmm, well I found this and this. Not exactly featureable quality, but I'll keep an eye out. Watched the 2012 film today. Heartbreaking. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:58, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

image quality?
Hey Adam, I just took this a few days ago - fill in flash worked nicely I thought. Is it worth a run as a featured pic? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:13, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * It certainly looks very good, but I'm not a modern photography expert when it comes to FPC, and there's a few minor flaws. what do you think? Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:20, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Adam, you pinged some other editor, and yet I've come! Cas Liber, although at thumbnail this is a magnificent image (and at full res it's pretty darn good too, better than my images of flowers) there are a couple things. The leaves are heavily over exposed along the edges (where they're getting direct sunshine). There are strange white spots (noise? I don't know) in the sky. Because you used F/16, there is significant diffraction (most obvious along the side of the flower facing the camera), which renders it unsharp (fixable with a lower F number when shooting or more downsampling). Final bit, I'd clone out that leaf at the bottom (doesn't add anything, and since it's not part of your subject you'd probably be allowed some digital manipulation there. Did you do any levels edits, denoising, or any other post-processing? Shooting on full auto?16:30, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I can't remember - it was windy. I haven't done any post-processing (and never done any, so wouldn't know where to start....). I shot on manual with fill-in flash. Flash set to underexpose by about 1 stop. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:10, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I echo Crisco's comments above. I don't particularly like the composition though, shooting up at the sky does need some fill flash to recover the shadow detail but it doesn't fix the fact that you're shooting up at the sky. Where possible, it's better to shoot parallel to the ground but in such a way that you can isolate the subject from the background. In other words, don't shoot it with the tree directly behind because it will get lost in the background noise. The less there is behind the subject, the more aesthetically pleasing the background will be. If I'm honest, I don't think it stands a great chance at FPC. It's a fine photo, but if you compare it to other featured botanical images, it's lacking in composition (in my opinion anyway). But feel free to nominate it, others may have a different POV. :-) &#208;iliff    &#171;&#187;  (Talk)  21:38, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. The branches are all around it so there is/was no way of isolating it. I thought a few iconic gum leaves gave the flower context and showed that it was a gum tree. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:50, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Girl at Sewing Machine
Could you close this one for me? Cheers! Armbrust The Homunculus 15:30, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

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Not
At all. Actually a good opportunity to revamp the article - there are many more google files in it now... Hafspajen (talk) 19:51, 10 October 2014 (UTC) How about a better file on this .... File:The biglin brothers turning the stake-boat thomas eakins.jpeg?

Ha, we don't have an article on Walter Hunt (1861–1941) was a British painter who specialized in paintings of animals, esepecially dogs. And it is your fault. Hafspajen (talk) 21:13, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm a little cautious about scans from art books at FPC, but I think I could get an article on Walter Hunt together. Give me time. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:04, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Of course not, theses are not for FP. But maybe an article+ But this one might. File:Philippe de Champaigne 002.jpg. At the moment it is a Yorkie, but it is at the National Gallery of Art, that you know very well... Hafspajen (talk) 13:24, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Please undelete
Please restore this page -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_Girls. I have references to support the article. Aaliyahnicole12 (talk) 23:21, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I'm not an admin. However, it was deleted for copyright infringement, so there's nothing stopping you recreating it if you don't copy paste. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:40, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Featured Content Report for next week
I've taken care of the FAs that have been promoted so far this week. I would appreciate it if you would or others like User:NickGibson3900 would write up the FPs. Nick, thanks for helping for this week's report! --Pine✉ 21:52, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I was planning to, but I was waiting for the final list. Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:54, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. --Pine✉ 21:56, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Really want to include the sound in the report, so will probably be playing around with the bells a bit. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:02, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Good idea. --Pine✉ 22:08, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:J. M. Wright - Edward Scriven - Robert Burns - Halloween.JPG is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on October 31, 2014. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2014-10-31. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:53, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Well, you didn't asked me
Adam,, but Crisco - anyway - I helped a little ... at Sign, hope it is OK. Hafspajen (talk) 11:31, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Galleries are finicky things. I rearranged it a bit, beecause peopel will complain if one of the galleries breaks into two lines. Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:28, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Love the way you do it, it is much better like this. Hafspajen (talk) 21:54, 12 October 2014 (UTC) Do you need more help? Descriptions, whatever. Hafspajen (talk) 22:06, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 * If you're up to it, I could use some help with the descriptions in the Featured picture section. There's a lot of them to do, so can grind one down a bit after the first six or so. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:08, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

OK: but I have no sense of humor. When should it be ready? Can't do much now. Hafspajen (talk) 22:24, 12 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Don't worry too much about humour. Humour can be used, but it's more of a "if you see a joke, feel free to make it" than a "there must be humour" thing. Tuesday, for preference, but the sooner the better, as I do want to concentrate on finishing the Seward restoration before it goes live. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:28, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

OK. Hafspajen (talk) 22:40, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 * By the way, the really annoying thing about paintings is that the first link doesn''t go to the article - it fgoes to the image, so you have to figure out a way to link the article without repeating yourself immediately. Hence the copyedits. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:51, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I love your style, well yes it is. By the way I do have sense of humor but I don't think I can manage sparkling it at Singp. Hafspajen (talk) 23:55, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 * What happened is was that I got sleepy and went to bed. Hafspajen (talk) 12:23, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Atlantic hurricane season - anf tempest and fog. Hafspajen (talk) 12:43, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:Alessandro Scarlatti - Griselda. (BL Add MS 14168 f. 5r) crop.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on November 2, 2014. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2014-11-02. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:43, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

WP:RFAR
With respect, your request for arbitration is highly unlikely to be accepted. You dispute the outcomes of the AfDs, but do not highlight any conduct dispute of people involved. ARBCOM deals with user conduct issues, and does not set policy. Is there some user conduct issue that needs to be resolved? If so, I recommend you highlight the conduct issues, rather than attempting to break a no consensus log jam. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:24, 15 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I think you have a point with "conduct issues" should be named. I have done so on the RFAR site, Hammersoft. Serten (talk) 19:27, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Arbcom
Hi. From my experience, articles (mis)used as a fortress are not being defeated on talk pages or WP:forums. Its a waste of time to stay too long on such talk pages. If I don't get further, I write my stuff elsewhere or create my own one. Take Ozone depletion and global warming as example. That said, an article about the IPCC consensus process and the current controversies and attempts (as well from within) to get rid of it would be as noteable as worth while writing. Would you like to contribute? Ozone_depletion_and_climate_change as baseline. Regards Serten (talk) 08:57, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Case declined
The arbitration committee declined the request for a case involving the List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming, concluding that it was not within the scope of the committee's remit. The arbitrators comments here may be helpful. For the arbitration committee, -- S Philbrick (Talk)  14:26, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CIII, October 2014
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POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:M. Browne - Herbert Railton - Sydney Grundy - Arthur Sullivan - Haddon Hall.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on November 8, 2014. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2014-11-08. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:16, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CIII, October 2014, Redux
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Chunked uploads...
So I got the Chunked Uploads thing down...but now I am debating which video format to choose from (see here). Do you think it be better to choose the MPEG2 or MPEG4? The MPEG2 file appears to be over the chunked upload limit. I would appreciate your opinion here. Thanks! Étienne Dolet (talk) 17:31, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't really know video, to be honest. Crisco can probably help more. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:41, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Hiroshima/Nagasaki
Hi Adam, I've had some time and did the top 500px or so of the Hiroshima/Nagasaki image. The restoration, as it is far, is at File:The_patient's_skin_is_burned_in_a_pattern_corresponding_to_the_dark_portions_of_a_kimono_-_NARA_-_519686_Crisco_edit.jpg. Do you think it's worth continuing, or better to just get rid of the major flaws and use the image for online purposes only? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:35, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, regarding Lee... wow those images are dreadful. And you say there's not many better images available? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:38, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, I was saying that primarily about Battle of Appomattox Court House - I think we can do quite a bit better with Lee. A lot of the images appear to have undergone damaging processing and compression before being added to the page; indeed, some seem to have been added without thought or consideration (there are so many good Gettysburg images, but the one used is not one of them, for instance). It needs redone and rethought. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:17, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Another example: compare File:Lee,_Lee,_&_Taylor220.jpg with its source page, http://library.duke.edu/digitalcollections/strong_strph36003/ - it's been desaturated and shrunk down, for no good reason. Never understood the idea of making coloured images monochrome, so that the page is much more samey. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:45, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Shudder. The arrangement of the images at the Lee page is what threw me off. That and the fact that many of the images have very obvious damage, even at thumbnail size... I'd bet that set of images hasn't changed in three or four years. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:18, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, hence why I want to do a cleanup. Some may win through, but...
 * I think it's largely because noone's actually been working on the article. It's not even a GA, and it's the best-known Confederate General; last attempt at GA was seven years ago. Adam Cuerden (talk) 07:38, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Shame. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:41, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, might pull MILHIST in on this. See if there's a good template article I can use to make sure all the relevant content types are in there, then get a few good references. Adam Cuerden (talk) 07:45, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * As for the Nagasaki image: I think that the historical value outweighs a somewhat mediocre photo, and would say go on. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:20, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Might be a long term project, but I'll get 'er done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:18, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Triple Crown



 * By the way, please fill up again the nom page with the request for the Timeless one. Don't type DYK credits, since they are not considered for that Triple Crown (there is no way an article can be de-DYK'ed). Cheers!

Ceramic-waste and monkeys
No it is not called Ceramic-waste and monkeys, but Självporträtt med hustrun Marie Suzanne Giroust målande Henrik Wilhelm Peills porträtt - Selfportrait with his wife, Marie Suzanne Giroust painting Henrik Wilhelm Peills. Hafspajen (talk) 10:49, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Haf! I've put it in here Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:15, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Need help? Hafspajen (talk) 11:19, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * If you'd like to, I'd love to have you on board, but I probably can't say "need" yet, as I'm starting two days early this week. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:24, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Let me know if you want me to help then. Hafspajen (talk) 11:26, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I want you to, but don't want to pressure you if you don't want to. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:36, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * If others were half as polite and respectful, Wiki wouldn't have any problems. Hafspajen (talk) 11:54, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Haf! Mind you, I'm expecting ten FPs in the next two days, so it's probably for the best that I've started early. =)
 * The big rush. Stopped. Hafspajen (talk) 16:08, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * What exacly you are not happy with? it looks gorgious! Well, Arachnophobia - might be an issue - so I would't advice you to put that spider at the bottom. Put Sir Paul Fildes instead. (Maybe tripple gallery? with Mathew Brady and some other portrait ?) Hafspajen (talk) 17:05, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Seward's been featured very prominently two weeks ago (see Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-10-15/Featured_content), and I don't like including two paintings by the same artist without a good hook, like the Roslin comparison. Let's give Muhammad his terrifying, horrible spider. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:09, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * UGH. That spider is rather terrifying in size. Can't we put it at least together with the bird or something? Hafspajen (talk) 17:35, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Let's leave it for now (if it disturbs you, just shove it off to the side without replacement); As I said, I might drop a gallery. I suppose Pembroke College is an option, but I really need to do the widescreen check before we do too much work that might get thrown out. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:40, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Ok, you shy British. How about midsummer fire, will that make it into this? It has the perfect wide screen format for bottom last pic. Hafspajen (talk) 17:44, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Skagen painters, Dutch Golden Age, and the 19th-century Russian painters are probably my favourites, although, of course, there's quite a few others as well. In short - hell yes that's going in. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:53, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I just realised. This is our Hallowe'en issue! Perhaps GIANT SPIDER is seasonal? Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:56, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hafspajen (talk) 18:08, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * You missed the "Hafs, don't look for a second" edit message, didn't you? Oops... Wanted to run it past a few people by linking a diff. Adam Cuerden (talk) 18:12, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Adam, you monkey. Hafspajen (talk) 14:55, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Hunt for "portcherbourg" photo
On a hunt for a good reference for "" photo, used at Bombardment of Cherbourg:


 * A working website, EHPS European History Primary Sources, hosts “Archives Normandie, 1939-1945”. The caption proclaims the website is the first with free high definition photos of the Battle of Normandy. 2763 photos were loaded, it seems that the HD/p000905 is actually a specific identifier. It also links to a web address of http://www.archivesnormandie39-45.org which seems broken.


 * Google search for Photo HD/p000904 brings up our photo. at Storia fotografica della seconda guerra mondiale parte 1. it is 16th row, second column down, without attribution that I spotted off hand.


 * The portcherbourg photo we are looking for In the online article, Basse-Normandie, débarquement DDay, La Libération de Cherbourg : Que s'est il passé il y a tout juste 70 ans ? The caption says: "Les alliés en Normandie combattent sur deux fronts. Si les britanniques ont pour objectif la « charnière de Caen », les Américains se battent dans le Cotentin. Leur objectif est de s’emparer du port de Cherbourg. Mais ils trouvent sur leur route une résistance allemande acharnée à Carentan et Montebourg." The credit line for our photo says: © Archives Normandie Le port de Cherbourg.

Can we use the identifier, HD/p000904? The website was put up by the Base-Normandie regional government in France, is that who we should request assistance from? If so, it should be in French, I suppose...? I'm not sure how to proceed, but I am intrigued with the prospect of unraveling the problem. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 13:59, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Indian Classical Dance
I am really happy to answer to your question. First of all am not a dance but an very big fan and observer of Classical Dance. Usually, when I go for dance programs, I take around 700 to 1000, sometimes more than 1000 pictures of the movements. Out of that, with the help of expert dancers or critics I choose one or tow beautiful poses to upload in wiki. There are many kind of dance forms in India and all are from different parts of India. For example, Odissi from Odisha, Mohiniyattam, Kathakali etc from Kerala, Kuchupudi from Andra Pradesh, Bharatha Natyam from Tamil Nadu etc. All the places I have mentioned are different districts of India and all the places having different culture and traditional set ups. Based on that, all the dance forms are evolved. It is not possible to compare one with the other because we call it as Indian Classical dance but all are having its own specialties as you can identify from the dress and make ups from the photographs I have uploaded. I have understood your question. You are concerned about relevancy of the pose which I am uploading. In classical dance, there is no single part you can consider as relevant but the entire performance is telling the story. All the dance performance will be based on a story mostly based on Hindu mythology. If you have anymore clarifications, please do reply, if possible, to the point question, so that I will be easily able to convince you. I hope you are convinced and enjoying my clicks. Bellus Delphina  talk  19:26, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

'Scottish' nationality
I would be interested in hearing your reason for reverting the my change to the infobox of the James Clark Maxwell to the fictional nationality of 'Scottish'. There is no consensus to invent a nationality on the talk page. Not that I am not referring to his description as 'Scottish' in the lead. Martin Hogbin (talk) 09:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!


Happy Halloween!

Hello Adam Cuerden: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!   –    The herald  12:04, 27 October 2014 (UTC) Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.

Halloween cheer!


Happy Halloween!

Hello Adam Cuerden: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!   –  Hafspajen (talk) 13:49, 27 October 2014 (UTC) Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.

Franklin Pierce
Do you want to make a head-and-shoulders version for the front page? —Designate (talk) 17:26, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I definitely want to use the Brady image for the TFA (sorry I was vague about it) simply because it's the best image of him. I don't see the harm in cropping it for the TFA, but if that's improper, never mind. —Designate (talk) 19:00, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, that's what the "other versions" section is for. I also hate having stray images without clear links between them, which makes me wonder why you uploaded a new file 1 without either overwriting the existing one 2, or marking the two as "other versions" of each other. It looks like you used the description I wrote for the existing image as a basis but removed the right sourcing (you need a date for the original and a date for your modification, for example). I'd rather have one original (from the LOC), one sensible crop, and one head-and-shoulders. Instead we now have at least 9 versions of the same image. —Designate (talk) 20:50, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I find that linking a million inferior copies in "Other versions" is a good way to confuse users. There's some things that I don't think I should delete or overwrite, but which I still think I can do better than. Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:03, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Adam- Happy to help out with a css image crop (keep the original of choice, get any crop you want in thumbnail)... Let me know.--Godot13 (talk) 23:51, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * If TFA is set up to allow it, that would be ideal. Adam Cuerden (talk) 07:23, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Sample images
Let me know if the overall size works (smaller vs larger) and if any of the options are what you had in mind, or which one could be tweaked to bring it where you want it. I can do it later today, just let me know if the format will work... --Godot13 (talk) 07:43, 29 October 2014 (UTC) (I started fiddling with it earlier)

Duodu
this this this - this this this this are all in article, nominable - OBS - wait 5 days. Hafspajen (talk) 02:06, 30 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't think File:Self-portrait_by_Gerrit_Dou.jpg can pass - it appears (given the source) to be a processed scan from a half-toned book; in any case, pretty terrible at full-res. File:Gerard Dou - Self-Portrait - WGA06660.jpg I'm worried about how visible the cracks are on the right of his face - obviously the cracks are there, but different lighting would probably make them less visible. The first I mentioned (relinked for your convenience) doesn't seem as good of a painting as the second, but it may just be the reproduction.
 * Of the others File:Dou, Gerrit - A Woman playing a Clavichord - Google Art Project.jpg has a funny horizontal line across the middle. That might be original, but we will need to prove that. I don't like File:Gerrit Dou - Girl Chopping Onions - Google Art Project.jpg as much as the others.
 * File:Gerard Dou - Still Life with a Boy Blowing Soap-bubbles - Google Art Project.jpg is lovely, but what is that object in the foreground?
 * My favourites are File:Gerard Dou - Maid at the Window - Google Art Project.jpg and File:Gerrit Dou (Dutch - Astronomer by Candlelight - Google Art Project.jpg. The former is a bit buried, and the second used in a gallery. Perhaps we could make them more prominent? Adam Cuerden (talk) 12:35, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Move girl. But even if I like the Astronomer alot, I put the Astronomer in the gallery - because it has the same problem - the frame and edges are rather crappy. Can't thou find a better scan? I think some guys took them out of their frames when they made scans on google art. Hafspajen (talk) 22:48, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Feel free to nominate any. I think the object in the foreground is some kind of calabash. Hafspajen (talk) 23:06, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Probably better to have them out of the frames for our purposes. Frames are 3D elements and thus PD-Art doesn't apply. Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:49, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

FPs in the Cup
I understand that your feelings were hurt and you're angry at those editors who denigrate your work; I get that, I really do. When I tell not very close friends that my main hobby is Wiki, I get strange looks and questions about why I'm not spending my time on a book or something that could make me some money. I do it because I get a great deal of satisfaction from writing articles. I imagine that you do as well, but you need to get over hurt feelings and stop venting at people; you're alienating well-wishers and those who agree with you like myself.

When I was in the Army, we had a saying for when things got unpleasant, "embrace the suck and drive on". Wiki can be a toxic environment, just like anywhere else in the digital world and you've stumbled into one bad example. If you can't handle it then maybe you need to do something else with your time. OTOH, if you enjoy restoring the pictures and seeing your work made available for millions of people to see and learn from, then let the words and insults roll off like water off a duck's back. Screw the naysayers and don't let their words affect you because right now you're just contributing to the toxicity for all concerned.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:59, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

The problem is it's been four months or so of this, and got so bad around... May or so? (First three weeks of May, looks like: ) that I literally could not focus on image restoration for a month, then got back, and was criticized for not being in the top 3, because I worked in FPs which were supposedly easy:

Shame on you. You are doing FPs and you will miss the 2nd place? Oh, you will miss eve the 3rd place? Again, shame on you. You are not worthy. Nergaal (talk) 20:51, 22 June 2014 (UTC) - From Wikipedia_talk:WikiCup/Archive/2014/3

This is a contest that had protest resignations over someone working in images doing well. (Wikipedia_talk:WikiCup/Archive/2014/3)

While I think it's (for lack of a better word) weak to withdraw, I mostly agree with Hink. How much value does the FP have to wiki? I don't think they should be disallowed, but there should be some limit. [...] - Above thread.

There's quite a lot more in that line. At one point it's said that FPs have "little content involved".

And then, the moment the competition ends, the knives come out, people coming in to make sure that FP people will never win the competition again.

At this point, I just want to make damn sure that this competition, where the judges are unable to prevent outright hostility coming out, doesn't attract a single other person working in FPs,  ever . Noone should have to put up with what Godot and I did. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:38, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

In all honesty, at this point, after four months of being ground down, I'm just in "make sure they never get the chance to do this to anyone else" mode. I'd rather see the Wikicup ended than let it run again with the attacks on FPs continuing, because those sorts of things really hurt people, Wikipedia, and the entire pictures process.

It's a shame. The Wikicup is pretty much literally the only competition on Wikipedia that recognised FPs, or, for that matter, FPOs. There's WP:TRIPLE, but that requires about a 2:3 (or, at best, 1:2) Article to FP/FPO ratio. There are plenty of article-based contests, many specialized, e.g. WP:MILHIST has regular contests and awards for articles.

And there's nothing wrong with that, but the death of the WikiCup - and it is dead to all right-thinking people - has killed off any variety in what's recognized.

And one might ask whether commons could fill that niche? Well, no. The only contests on Commons are photographic based, and require new photographs. While that fills a little bit of the gap, it means that those not working in photographs are even more isolated, as even the attempts to reach out don't reach them.

This is not something I want, but the sheer hostility I've seen has convinced me that there's no point in continuing to try and support it. It was a nice idea. It's over now.

You get more of what you encourage and celebrate. Sounds on Wikipedia have all but completely dried up since the death of WP:FSC. At this point, the WikiCup only serves as a means of discouraging pictures. Will I manage to work at the rate I did this year next year? I'd like to think so... but suspect that, without something to time me and encourage me, I'm going to be less productive. And Wikipedia is the loser. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:06, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Dragon Warrior II
Page move is proposed; you are invited to discuss it there. --George Ho (talk) 03:54, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks!


You're most welcome! Sorry about the issues. Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:29, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Signpost
Hi Adam, Sorry I've not been around too much this week - work has been haywire, and by Wiki time has been limited. I saw no Featured Content went out this week: does that mean we're going to have to go for a bumper issue next week? Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 09:01, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * No, we're going to skip a week, and get a full week to work on issues, instead of the list finalizing on Sunday and needing to be out three or four days later. Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:32, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:Kurz and Allison - Battle of Franklin, November 30, 1864.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on November 30, 2014. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2014-11-30. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:51, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

The Botanic Garden
Adam, I'm finally ready to submit this article to FAC. Earlier today, I did a quick copy-edit and some restructuring. My only issue with it is that it may not be long enough, but I have seen articles of a similar length go through FAC fine. Do you think that we should have it PRed first? Personally, I think that it's ready to go. Let me know what you think, and if it's fine with you, I'll submit it to the queue in both our names (and Adrienne's too, of course). Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 02:21, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey, I've been thinking about this article, and I think that instead of needing a traditional PR, I think it needs a science/botany expert to look at it, to make sure it's comprehensive enough and that it's science is accurate. I put a note on User:Peter coxhead's talk page  asking him for assistance.  If he or someone who knows what they're doing says that it's fine, we can go ahead and submit to FAC.  As I told Peter, my area of expertise is definitely not botany, so I think it would behoove us to have someone like him take a look at this article.  Just keeping you informed! ;) Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 23:10, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

POTD
Next week I'll be scheduling the 16th of December (probably). Do you have that battle image ready? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:03, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * It's half-done. Could you give me a few more days? Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:12, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright... I will just leave the date open for now (it was the 16th, right?) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:15, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * 16th, yes. Sorry. It's a really important image, but it has some issues of damage, mixed with possible but not certain damage. May do the second photo first, as it's relatively easier. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:24, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries. I'll leave it open until the 12th. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:21, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CIV, November 2014
The Bugle is published by the Military history WikiProject. To receive it on your talk page, please join the project or sign up here. If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 12:27, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Can you restore?
Hi there

Can you somehow restore File:Alfred Elmore - Pompeii, A.D. 79 - Google Art Project.jpg from the defects? I will then nominate for FPC (may be co-nom). Thank you.. The herald  14:20, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * We don't normally restore cracks in paintings, as paintings are one-off works. Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:13, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * So IYO, can I go for an FPC? <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969"> The herald  16:23, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't see why not. Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:28, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Template edit
Your recent edit to Wikipedia:Signpost/Template:Signpost-article-comments-end does not appear to have been entirely successful; a bunch of old Signpost pages have suddenly shown up in Category:ParserFunction errors, and those pages are displaying an "Expression error: Unexpected < operator" error message. I know nothing about templates, and I haven't reverted your edit to the template, in the hope that your examining the specific instances that are triggering the error—i.e., those listed in the category—may help you figure out what the problem is. Deor (talk) 13:23, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Council of Lithuania
Hi Adam,

Yes, that credit line looks great. Thank you for writing it! I appreciate you letting me know about the Signpost blurb.

Neelix (talk) 23:48, 22 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Adam,


 * I agree that it would be great to have higher-resolution versions of the images you mention. Unfortunately, I do not speak Lithuanian. Perhaps Novickas would be able to help.


 * Neelix (talk) 00:34, 23 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Adam,


 * I don't see any factual errors, just two minor grammatical ones: 1) "In the closing years of the First World War", and 2) "they were set to the task of negotiating terms". Other than that, the blurb looks good to me.


 * Neelix (talk) 01:10, 23 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Adam,


 * Perhaps this is a dialectical difference; I have heard of people being given tasks, or being set to tasks, or even being given set tasks, but not being set tasks. Feel free to phrase it as you will.


 * Neelix (talk) 01:42, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

(moved from Neelix's talk page) Hi Neelix - got your ping about the picture - and hi, Adam. I see there is a much higher-res pic of the signatories (4586 × 2844) on the web. You can see that it would need cleaning up, tho, and I don't know how to do that. Also, I'm not very comfortable with downloading pictures off the web, or with contacting institutions, or with image licensing considerations in general. (You could try asking at WP:WikiProject Lithuania). But thanks for working with the topic.

P.S. There's an extra twist involved with the Signatories picture. It pains me to say this, but I'm not sure it's really Free although it could certainly be Fair Use. The credited photographer, Aleksandras Jurašaitis, died in 1915 (before the council was formed) and this site - Google translation here  says that his studio affixed his name to photos taken after his death. A Lithuanian National Museum site credits the signatories photo to his daughter Aleksandra Jurašaitytė, although many otherwise reliable sources were still crediting it to her father during the last decade. She died in 1957, so it'd not be free. (The sources are in LT, but if you're interested, I could translate). A messy situation. File:Jonas Basanavicius (1851-1927).jpg is a better prospect because it was apparently taken in 1905. Novickas (talk) 14:41, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, the one good thing is that 1920 is fine for en-wiki, as we could upload it here as PD-US-1923-abroad, and we could also argue that a company named after someone, but not crediting the actual photographers, is basically PD-Old-anon. However, on the secondary topic, that big copy is just terrible - there's just too much data lost for that to ever get that good. I think it's from newsprint. Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:46, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * You're clearly pretty well versed about these things, so...as you wish :) Maybe later sometime, Novickas (talk) 23:00, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

add
Adam will you take look at the Signpost again, please, added a bit, just to make sure... Hafspajen (talk) 14:50, 24 November 2014 (UTC) Ahem, uhem... Swenglish ... Hafspajen (talk) 17:26, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Here 's a link; right. Wikipedia Signpost/2014-11-19/Featured content Hafspajen (talk) 17:28, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Quite a bit, actually. Hafspajen (talk) 17:29, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I've not really had time to copyedit until now. Two bits of advice - try to avoid making things a conversation - you're using "Actually" to add additions, but it's all meant to read in one voice. Secondly, remember the amount of room for images is limited by widescreen monitors. Don't try to fill the whole column, because that column can vary in height depending on monitor. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:40, 24 November 2014 (UTC)


 * .Try now, because this might be it. Hafspajen (talk) 11:00, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I am rather in favor of the Paton, as lead -pic for the next - just because it is giving such a good holiday -air!  Hafspajen (talk) 18:59, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I think that's in the issue for the 17th; I'm not even going to think of that now. Four in a row's enough. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:01, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, don't think ... yet. Hafspajen (talk) 19:02, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * So ready for today on Wikipedia Signpost/2014-12-10/Featured content, check if you feel for itHafspajen (talk) 01:00, 27 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, I tried now to fix the entries, and I am finished with all the FPs, getting on with the articles. asked some help from X. But I would like you to help with the choice of the pictures and check the text. By the way, now when we all know what this was all about, and with an own article, don't you think this could still have a real chance? Maybe as a double nomination together with the craze one? Hafspajen (talk) 13:32, 2 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Ahem . -Hafspajen (talk) 16:46, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Adam, please, can we skip that gravel, it doesn't fit anywhere. I was thinking about using it myself but it is just in the way. Hafspajen (talk) 01:18, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * A future FP? File:Strawberry Wobbler (4709360620).jpg Hafspajen (talk) 23:13, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:George Schlegel - George Degen - New York 1873.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on December 15, 2014. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2014-12-15. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:32, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Re: Note
That's right – let's ban those who speak out against FPs; let's ban those who call for more transparency in the Cup; let's ban those who want a fairer competition where rules are adhered to and enforced. In short, you just want to eliminate anyone who holds a different view to yours. It's ironic that you out of all people are calling for others to be banned – if there's anyone who deserves to be the first one punished in such a manner, it's you for your utterly neurotic tirades and blatant personal attacks against anyone who spoke out in favour of reducing FP points. That's what's driving people away from the Cup. That's why those who would've supported your position are put off. Your calling for my ban from the WikiCup is the highest honour you can give a Wikipedian. Bravo! —Bloom6132 (talk) 11:23, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

AN/I
Hi Adam; I have mentioned you in passing in this AN/I thread. You are welcome to contribute or ignore it as you see fit. J Milburn (talk) 12:58, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Confused...
Does make any sense to you?--Godot13 (talk) 00:37, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Greeley redux
I'm working on his article, so it's going to FAC and I hope eventually to TFA. Connormah and you discussed this a while back. This does seem to be a chance to get your work on the main page, FAC willing.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:29, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

James Clerk Maxwell
Hi, regarding your recent question about the James Clerk Maxwell foundation providing images to the WP page. Sadly that is not possible because, although we own the house in which he was born, and in which we operate a JCM museum, we are not the owners of rights in any of the images of Maxwell. Those we use on our website are by permission of the respective owners.

You may be interested in the following diffs relating to the issue of Maxwell's nationality: [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dave_souza&diff=prev&oldid=636617648] [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martin_Hogbin&diff=prev&oldid=636617004]

As this issue actually applies to many pages dealing with Scottish people I do not understand why these two editors are desperate to change this particular one (which has shown Maxwell's nationality as Scottish since 2006). I also note that the IP editor has recently sprung into existence with British nationality as his sole editing activity!

I believe that changes to the practice of assigning nationality to the particular constituent nation should be discussed as a general point, not via a single article, and have suggested that Nationality of people from the United Kingdom would be appropriate, but this is ignored.

Am I misguided? Thanks, FF-UK (talk) 18:37, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Please see: Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)
 * How should we show the nationality of a person in WP?
 * Thanks FF-UK (talk) 16:00, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:Illustrated London News - Christmas Truce 1914.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on December 25, 2014. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2014-12-25. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:27, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Nominations for the Military history Wikiproject's Historian and Newcomer of the Year Awards are now open!
The Military history Wikiproject has opened nominations for the Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year. Nominations will be accepted until 13 December at 23:59 GMT, with voting to begin at 0:00 GMT 14 December. The voting will conclude on 21 December. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:35, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:John Masey Wright - John Rogers - Robert Burns - Auld Lang Syne.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on December 31, 2014. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2014-12-31. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:12, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 is just around the corner...
Hello everyone, and may we wish you all a happy holiday season. As you will probably already know, the 2015 WikiCup begins in the new year; there is still time to sign up. We have a few important announcements concerning the future of the WikiCup.


 * We would like to announce that Josh (J Milburn) and Ed (The ed17), who have been WikiCup judges since 2009 and 2010 respectively, are stepping down. This decision has been made for a number of reasons, but the main one is time. Both Josh and Ed have found that, over the previous year, they have been unable to devote the time necessary to the WikiCup, and it is not likely that they will be able to do this in the near future. Furthermore, new people at the helm can only help to invigorate the WikiCup and keep it dynamic. Josh and Ed will still be around, and will likely be participating in the Cup this following year as competitors, which is where both started out.
 * In a similar vein, we hope you will all join us in welcoming Jason (Sturmvogel 66) and Christine (Figureskatingfan), who are joining Brian (Miyagawa) to form the 2015 WikiCup judging team. Jason is a WikiCup veteran, having won in 2010 and finishing in fifth this year. Christine has participated in two WikiCups, reaching the semi-finals in both, and is responsible for the GA Cup, which she now co-runs.
 * The discussions/polls concerning the next competition's rules will be closed soon, and rules changes will be made clear on WikiCup/Scoring and talk pages. While it may be impossible to please everyone, the judges will make every effort to ensure that the new rules are both fair and in the best interests of the competition, which is, first and foremost, about improving Wikipedia.

If you have any questions or concerns, the judges can be reached on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, on their talk pages, or by email. We hope you will all join us in trying to make the 2015 WikiCup the most productive and enjoyable yet. You are receiving this message because you are listed on WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk), The ed17 (talk), Miyagawa (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Figureskatingfan (talk) 18:53, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

FC
Hey Adam,

I have just made some tweaks in FC of this week. the description was a bit long (I think) and a minor copy edits. Thank you..<font style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969">The Herald : here I am 14:16, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Then Why not delay Yule log for the next issue?? I had the X-mas Sign issue in my mind while nominating..<font style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969">The Herald : here I am 15:37, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright..Plus Yule log may have more views as its the 24th POTD too...<font style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969">The Herald : here I am 03:59, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy Lucia!
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Happy Saint Lucia's day!

"Good Morning"Adam: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia! 13 December is the day when WE, THE Swedes perplex the rest of the world by showing up way too early in the morning dressed in white tunics, candles in their hair, singing and bringing saffron buns and breakfast in bed to nice people. Hope you have a bright day! Hafspajen (talk) 10:09, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Hafspajen! Saffron buns sound delicious; I'm going to have to go to the Swedish restaurant in Edinburgh and search one out. Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:24, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Havent seen any. However from Haymarket upp, towards The Scottish national Gallery is a nice Pub and an great Indian restaurant. Hafspajen (talk) 23:40, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Lots of nice stuff in that area. Poke me if you're ever visiting. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:16, 14 December 2014 (UTC)::
 * Sure. Hafspajen (talk) 16:36, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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This. If you could find a bigger file. I would be hapy to go with a co- nom. Wrote an article on it too. This is a real iconic Turner and it's just a pity we have a too small scan. Hafspajen (talk) 16:35, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Gentleman with a Cannon
Is that you? Hafspajen (talk) 02:27, 16 December 2014 (UTC) Sorry, I got home after over 24 hours in airports and planes yesterday. Not at my best. I'd like to think my beard is MUCH more impressive than that. =P Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:37, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Anybody home?
This starts to feel like a monologue. What do you say about this? Hafspajen (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Heh. Was just in Pittsburgh. It's a lovely image. Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:38, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Oops. Hafspajen (talk) 23:46, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thought if you have some spare time you could nominate it, same guy as in the caricature... You are the history guy... Hafspajen (talk) 23:47, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that it would now be impossible for me to nominate it in the near future. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:46, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't follow. Hafspajen (talk) 01:13, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Exactly. And, as it's already nominated, I can't nominate it again. Future tense vs. past tense. Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:04, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Never mind. Hafspajen (talk) 02:11, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I did label it as a bad joke. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:14, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * ADAM!! What's that Monkey doing beside the nativity. Hafspajen (talk) 03:04, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:FT setup
Not sure what you wanted to do with it, but could you delete it? It links itself to the "category:Featured topics" and screws up some bot counts. Nergaal (talk) 00:29, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It was meant as part of an overhaul of the way FTs were. We eventually found existing, working code that wasn't being used early in development. Feel free to delete it. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:56, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Close review, second closing
You participated in the Overturn of the first closing of the Media Viewer RfC. You are invited to comment on the Close Review Request of the second closing of the same RfC: wp:Administrators'_noticeboard. Alsee (talk) 14:17, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Seasonal Greets!
I've asked for an uncontroversial requested move on Admiral of the Fleet (Royal Navy) (to Admiral of the fleet (Royal Navy)) on the grounds of WP:JOBTITLES. By long-standing Wikipedia consensus and by normal grammar standards, military ranks are not capitalised except where they form part of a name. Admiral of the fleet is no exception. See Talk:Admiral of the Fleet (Royal Navy). If you think it is controversial, please say so at Requested moves. Thanks. Shem (talk) 18:31, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:The High Rollers Extravaganza Co. - Bend Her - c.1900.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on January 8, 2015. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2015-01-08. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:17, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

James B. Weaver
Hey Adam,

I'm going to nominate James B. Weaver for FA soon, and some of the pictures are crappy. Do you have any advice on improving the worst of them?

Thanks, Coemgenus (talk) 15:41, 19 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, the simplest thing would be to rescan the ones taken from books. That'll likely be easier for an American to do. I can probably improve File:James_Weaver_-_Brady-Handy.jpg and File:1892PopulistPoster.png to FP.


 * File:Lt. James B. Weaver.png, File:Weaver_1878.png, and File:James and Clara Weaver 1908.png are misattributed. Frederick Emory Haynes is the book's author, and wrote the book over forty years after the later of the two photographs. So you probably need Haynes' book in order to fix that issue anyway. Since all three of the worst photos come from that single book, and the rest aren't that bad, fixing that issue is probably the quickest way to improve things.


 * A 1919 copy of this book is available for $9 + shipping. Get this copy, as the others on that site are print on demand or ebooks, which could be really, really crappy. If you need someone to handle scanning it, I will do it if you don't have someone trustworthy, and I suppose I could fit that book into my Wikipedia budget for next month. Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:43, 19 December 2014 (UTC)


 * That's a good idea, actually scanning the thing. I'll order the book. I've got a decent scanner here that should be better than the Google Books pdf. Thanks! --Coemgenus (talk) 19:59, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
 * One hint: Scan fairly high (300dpi or more). Wikipedia is fairly good at thumbnailing half toning, particularly compared to the crap from the PDF. And if there's problems, it's far easier to fix them from a high-res scan. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:39, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The book arrived today. The originals of those pictures aren't great, but I think there's some improvement. --Coemgenus (talk) 00:33, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed. If you descreen them, you might get things even better. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:42, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Is that a photoshop thing? Cropping and rotating in Microsoft's photo editor are about all the tools I've ever used. --Coemgenus (talk) 00:49, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Sort of. Though I myself use GIMP. It's a way of trying to turn a halftoned image into smoother colour. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:08, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll take a look at it. --Coemgenus (talk) 01:13, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter—December 2014


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December Bugle
Hi Adam, Do you have time to add the FPs to the December edition of the Bugle today (your time)? Ian and I would like to get it out soon. Thanks, Nick-D (talk) 04:49, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CV, December 2014
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ANI
The problem with these discussions is the threads get overwhelmed so easily. I'm pretty sure Martin Hogbin was thinking of a previous version of the article in his last comment, but have given him an opportunity here to revise his comment if that is the case. Better to get somewhere to start with than remain in the same spot as before with continued back and forth. Hopefully FF-UK will also be willing to accept a voluntary binding restriction on similar terms. Ncmvocalist (talk) 16:04, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure that once someone says they intend to go to Arbcom in order to force Scottishness not to be recognised as a nationality that they probably need to step away from the subject. I've tried talking with Martin. He doesn't seem to be able to make a consistent argument - for example, Irish people should be classed as Irish, even if they're before Ireland was its own country, but Scotland should not, and his views on places like Bermuda were similarly confused. The problem is that the suppression of Scottishness/Welshness was a political tactic used against the constituent nations, so - while I would like to think he has other motives - vigorously attacking the ability to note important people from those countries as having those nationalities has some really nasty baggage attacked to it, and when one is forumshopping everywhere, and using every tactic in their powers towards that end - it's, at the very least, ignorant of the minefield they're digging into, and at worst, well... racist, but I don't really want to presume that without more evidence. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:12, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm hoping that if both editors agree to the voluntary binding restriction, an article RfC will settle this issue with more clarity, so that this 'dispute' does not continue - or so that if it does continue, there are clearer grounds (or clear evidence) for sanctions against specific parties who are not complying with the consensus which ultimately emerges from the article RfC. It's now up to FF-UK, but just waiting on his response to my last question at his user talk page. Ncmvocalist (talk) 17:46, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

I don't understand why you keep posting that MH is threatening Arbcom. If he were? Arbitrators would've told him to stop by now. AFAIK, they aren't feeling threatened. GoodDay (talk) 17:36, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I would have thought that it was clear that "He is threatening Arbcom" meant "threatening to go to Arbcom" with the implication of "threatening those who disagree with him by threatening to go to Arbcom". It's not exactly an uncommon phrasing. Perhaps it's a dialect thing - I do read very widely, and from a wide range of time periods - but I'm very surprised that there's any confusion over this. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:41, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Flaming June
It would be nice, if you could close this one for me. Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 14:04, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

:
Hafspajen (talk) 15:09, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Always like to give people the opportunity to edit where I'm worried I'll screw things up. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:12, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I am ready, added the colours - Adam, go ahead and combine.  Entry is yours. Hafspajen (talk) 12:39, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Very spänstig, that entry now. Have you heard of cow-wisperers? Or The Rotherham Cow Whisperer?  File:Freckles - The Rotherham Cow Whisperer (13968128718).jpg .... ? Hafspajen (talk) 14:24, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * ...That is adorable. Can we find an article for that photo? Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:54, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Black babydoll? + ?Hafspajen (talk) 15:11, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * If'n it fits, and can stick in the article, sure! Maybe some modelling articles? Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:32, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Midriff? tea-gown? actually I don't know what that garment is. I soon start feeling dizzy wandering around all these undergarments - never knew they were so many. Hafspajen (talk) 15:52, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

is the fashion -girl, help. Hafspajen (talk) 15:55, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I second that call for . You're our only hope! (Sorry for the delay, was starting to set up Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-01-07/Featured_content) Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:07, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It looks as if it's actually meant to be a black lace bodycon dress!!! I'm not sure what article you could include it in though ... ... SagaciousPhil  - Chat 10:50, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, new she would have the answer. Hafspajen (talk) 11:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I meant ... don't bother about this. Was maybe overly criptical. Hafspajen (talk) 13:53, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

File:Alexander Nasmyth - A View of Edinburgh from the West - Google Art Project.jpg - Hafspajen (talk) 15:19, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * That is stunning. Trying to figure out where it's from... File:Edinburgh_from_Corstorphine_Hill.jpg implies somewhere north of that part of Corstorphine Hill, although I think the hill's big enough that it might well be from there... Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:38, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Own article or add to Edinb, that pic? I guess, if anybody could write a stubb on poor Jean it should be me, since the guy is a landscape architect. Not that I use to edit such topics. If somebody wants me to talk landscape architect- things with me, they should pay, that's my philosophy, but I can make an exception. Not much info about him, though. This - wonder how reliable is. Hafspajen (talk) 17:09, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

File:Mulay Ahmed de Tunis (Hafsid).jpg - Hafsid (talk) 17:09, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year Adam Cuerden!
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Happy New Year! Adam Cuerden, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Hafspajen (talk) 10:20, 31 December 2014 (UTC) Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2015}} to user talk pages.

Cheese
   [http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/red-hawk-cheese-from-cowgirl-creamery/ It’s my most dreaded would-you-rather question. Which would you rather give up, forever: cheese or sex?]Hafspajen (talk) 11:07, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Adam, may I add now back this: One of their best know aged cheese is the triple-cream, unctuous cheese with its rind washed with brine solution that encourages the development of the red-orange rind, called Red Hawk, named after its rind (pictured) - or something like that (or you) ? Or you still think it's too much? Left a message at Northamerica's + added to the article. Also, the article, I am pretty sure the article will be alright soon. Hafspajen (talk) 11:26, 31 December 2014 (UTC)


 * is our food expert. Hafspajen (talk) 11:28, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, maybe not. Hafspajen (talk) 11:38, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I was out for a bit. I've edited down the article to remove repetition, and copied it over. Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:25, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Adam? Are you upset? You know I was dreaming about you, and you were complaining about your girlfriends... Face-smile-christmas.svg Hafspajen (talk) 13:37, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I was pretty sure North would fix it, but request got declined.Hafspajen (talk) 13:47, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Not upset. Just noting the issue with the article. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:17, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Well good. Didn't bothered, because I was pretty sure North would fix it, until now North never declined anything; but fixed everything rather the same second one asked. But is probably the times. Hafspajen (talk) 14:20, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Adam? Hafspajen (talk) 12:46, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, did I miss something? I kind of presumed everything had been sorted at this point... I went to a party on the 31st, was a bit out of it on the 1st, and am just getting the basic stuff together today. Ceoil's question reminded me of an FP that's troubled me for a while, so I set up that delist. As you can see, I have strong views. Heh. Probably a good thing I'm giving a talk on illustrating history on Wikipedia next month here in Edinburgh. Adam Cuerden (talk) 12:48, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes dear. Just remember we all love and appreciate you. Hafspajen (talk) 12:50, 2 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Hafs! And you remember that too! =) Happy New Year! Adam Cuerden (talk) 12:52, 2 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Do you like my new red talk? Hafspajen (talk) 12:52, 2 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Adam Cuerden (talk) 12:58, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't worry it is only for today. Tomorrow will be an other colour ... . Where can one find a full collection of theses colour codes? Hafspajen (talk) 13:05, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

LIKE the red with white letters. Hafspajen (talk) 13:07, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Do you know hexadecimal? The easiest way to get lots of colours is to know the basics of RGB colourspace. Then you can define a colour as # XX XX XX - where each XX is a hexadecimal number from 00 to FF, and the colours show which channel it's affecting.

Hexadecimal counts like so (using leading 0s): 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 0A, 0B, 0C, 0D, 0E, 0F, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 1A, 1B, 1C, 1D, 1E, 1F, 20...

Hexadecimal 20 is decimal 32. Hexadecimal FF is 255 decimal.

So, how to convert to hexadecimal? Depends how much maths you feel like. You could look at a table: http://www.palmantics.com/html/hexadecimal/ You could also divide by 16, noting the remainder:  100/16= 6 remainder 4,  so hexadecimal is 64 - but it gets more complex: 253/16 = 15 remainder 13, and then you're using those extra digits A=10, B=11, C=12, D=13, E=14, F=15  to get FD. It's probably easier, though, to just look at a table.

By the way, if you ever want to make pretty templates, this is really useful to know. And if you want to make a darker version of a colour, I generally keep the RGB relation the same (E.g. if R < G < B then that should stay like that, but drop the numbers. For example:

Cant really say I know the basics of RGB colourspace. - Actually, my idea was from the beginnig to get a colour like this: something like the photos here or a combination of those, but never managed to get it right. So I started to fool around. Hafspajen (talk) 14:46, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes, that's about it. Can you make it a shade warmer? More purplish? Just because I being curious of alternative. Hafspajen (talk) 16:36, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh you did it aleady. Thanks! Hafspajen (talk) 16:37, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Took the DF98EE for now... the other one looked actually almost pink. Is there something just in between those two? Hafspajen (talk) 16:43, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, discovering Wikipedia_talk:WikiCup stressed me the hell out... Well, there's a few betweens, of course, offhand:

Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:39, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Lovely. Now I am absolutely happy with it. Took #C998EE . That Wikicup is really .... well. Hafspajen (talk) 19:47, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

FP
I think this is clearly above par. I'm working the article towards FAC, but that will take many months. Would you think this repro is up there. Ceoil (talk) 04:14, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * A lovely image, but it's under the minimum suggested resolution, and I think that would likely block it, given the amount of high-resolution copies of artwork passing through FPC. It's one of those things where if you bend standards too easily, you encourage people not to try to get better. Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:47, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Wiki-farce 2015
I wonder if uninvolved administration intervention is necessary to intervene in this experiment? --Godot13 (talk) 05:00, 3 January 2015 (UTC) Please be a giant dick, so we can ban you. humor. Hafspajen (talk) 21:18, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Fun stuff
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-01-14/Featured_content&diff=640933322&oldid=640875542 ed note. :)]Hafspajen (talk) 17:30, 4 January 2015 (UTC)


 * ... He kept his face arranged in an expression of amused disinterest, but his curiousity was piqued. ... She could feel the heat of his inquisitive look. .... She looked away from his bright eyes, up to his softly tousled hair, illuminated by the early light. (this kind of weird thigs come up with spellcheck of inquisitive) Hafspajen (talk) 18:14, 4 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Heh! What is that, some sort of romance potboiler? Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:44, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Very much afraid so. Hafspajen (talk) 10:25, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Purple impact with purple prose. Lovely. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:39, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Adam, you are supposed to make jokes not remove Mr Hyde. Come on, we never had anything so boring for a long time.... Hafspajen (talk) 23:44, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Not like the articles this week are a very fertile image set. I think I could get an FP out of that one, though. Give me a day to restore it, and it'll probably look a lot better; if not, the poster with Lombard fits better, I think. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:34, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Lombard is good too. Actually I like that best. I mean thinking in colours (and general layout) the images are very ... subdued - muted colours.... we need all colour and jokes we can get. Hafspajen (talk) 00:43, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Why is everybody removing this one? Tony is now a victim and a hostage detained and controlled against his will in a situation he did not consent to or desired. - I really tried to put all atmosphere of the Stockholm syndrome into it... Hafspajen (talk) 00:49, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I see you thanked me for the new edit I made; will that do? Think a few well-chosen details are often more effective than a blunt description, and it's based on the short story "The Man Who Loved Dickens" so nice to get Dickens in there somewhere. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:02, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Agree. Was only scientifically wondering. I am not hurt or anything ... just wanted to know how to do better next time... Hafspajen (talk) 01:07, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I think the simplest way to explain it is that everything after "hostage" is more-or-less a definition of "hostage", and a "hostage" is a type of victim. Not enough specifics to make it breathe. "Show, don't tell" is a good maxim for summaries like this. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:11, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * what do you think of [Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Christopher Columbus|this]? Hafspajen (talk) 01:18, 13 January 2015 (UTC)I am going to revert to previous stage of the talk, do don't be surprized.


 * As for the Columbus image... it's the sort of annoying thing people do sometimes: good motives, poor understanding of what paintings look like. Not much we can do but try to get things to settle down, and renominate. You can see it on the one Hals image as well. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:27, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, true. The Sing looks great, we really need this, a rework, because one looses perspective while writing. I trust you and it is a relief that you finally got to it. was getting a bit nervous that you won't show up... the only thing I wanted to add was the mention of the ringers. Not that you can notice it in the picture... but I think naming clocks and ringing is so specifically English. A a set of 12 bells hung in the English style, typically for change ringing is rather unique. So I wrote  ' The hour is struck on the clock called Great Dunstan, the largest bell in Kent 63cwt (3.2 tonnes). The ringers practice on Thursday at 7.15pm. - and added a link about change ringing. Maybe wasn't that explicite but there was an idea behind it. This is unknown in other parts of the world... and very interesting.  Hafspajen (talk) 14:26, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * As I said - I liked what I cut, but I think that it could detract if we talk too much about things not in the image. I'd suggest that any photo of a church from the outside, though, or one that showed bell ropes, would be eminently suitable for discussion of bell ringing? User:Diliff/UK Cathedral photography shows several sets coming up that include exteriors. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:19, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Adam, please, if you nominate the pictures I put on my page or Crisco's could you please ask first - ''is that OK, do you have any plans with those? Do you want to go co- nom maybe?'' Otherwise I will stop putting those pictures om my talk and Criscos. It feels like I am making efforts to find good pics, and ... well, not being asked at all. Hafspajen (talk) 02:50, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I do apologise: Ifrankly thought that was why you were putting them there (and I did find a much larger copy, at least). Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:46, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Some are and some not, I guess. Maybe wasn't very clear on it. I am in bad mood, my best friend left Wiki it looks like and Sca is angry with me whatever I do and ... I am just sad. May stand as a co-nom at least? Hafspajen (talk) 03:51, 14 January 2015 (UTC)


 * If you think it is OK, just copy and paste : Support as co-nom Hafspajen (talk) 03:58, 14 January 2015 (UTC) . And by the way why don't you want to be in the van Gogh co-nom? 17 pics not that bad... Hafspajen (talk) 03:58, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd have to review all of them first. I can't very well support something I haven't reviewed. And sorry to hear about your friend leaving. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The friend is Sagaciousphil, by the way. Hafspajen (talk) 19:31, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * She's back. I am going to revert to previous stage of the talk, do don't be surprized. Cricket is yours if you want it. Hafspajen (talk) 22:22, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm glaad she's back, anyway. She's a good editor, and nice person. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:44, 14 January 2015 (UTC)


 * ??? Are you tired of purple? Hafspajen (talk) 22:51, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Was just feeling colour-designy, and thought I'd start thinking ahead. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:53, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I LIKE ORANGE - that was a good start. Try someting like that but stronger, like Buddist orange. Once I lived in a room all orange like Tagetes. Hafspajen (talk) 22:59, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like Perdo is getting reverted. Hafspajen (talk) 01:05, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * So, all yours. No co-nom required. Hafspajen (talk) 01:24, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * *eyes the talk page* ...Wow, that escalated quickly. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:33, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * It's this: horse show dressure, Hafspajen (talk) 02:09, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, I never noticed the guy called me ignorant racist ... what a style. --Hafspajen (talk) 03:10, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you think people will complain tha this is too small? File:Anonymous - Portrait of John III Sobieski (4th quarter of XVII century) - Google Art Project.jpg? Hafspajen (talk) 13:42, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, why am I not surprized that he popped up at FP... Say, you are not deliberately avoiding these? They were placed here for a certain reason. ..Hafspajen (talk) 06:17, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The damn Pedro thing rather distracted me... Adam Cuerden (talk) 06:28, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:Dresden. Zwinger & Sophienkirche. - Detroit Publishing Co.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on January 23, 2015. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2015-01-23. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:54, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Kustodiev


Adam, thanks for nominating Shrovetide. Сте́нька (talk) 19:30, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

The High Rollers
Love the horse on roller skates. Sca (talk) 14:35, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Saw this at the time, but forgot to mention: Thanks, Sca! There's some images I restore because they're important, some I just want to... Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:35, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

A favor, potentially
Hey Adam, I was looking at SMS Dresden (1907), as I'm getting ready to do some work on it in preparation for a run at ACR/FAC to try to run it on the anniversary of the ship's sinking in March 1915, and I was thinking File:SMS Dresden 1909 LOC det 4a16116.jpg might be a good candidate for a FP - I don't know how much work would be required to get it there, or if you have any interest in doing it, but I thought I'd ask. Thanks, Parsecboy (talk) 14:49, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Not too bad! Got all of the gross damage cleaned off, just need to go in and get all the fine detail done. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:49, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Many thanks! I've just started digging through Hildebrand et. al. for the rewrite - hopefully I'll be done in a few days and can put it up for ACR soon. March isn't that far away - it kinda crept up on me :) Parsecboy (talk) 01:30, 14 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Just out of curiosity, I'm guessing there's not much you can do with the current lead image, is there? I think the top corner is probably too washed out for you to be able to do anything with, FP-wise. Parsecboy (talk) 14:16, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, I don't know: the information's there, at least. You can sometimes deal with that through a series of careful burn tools or levels adjustments. Checking it at full res, it at least looks potentially fixable. Certainly to the extent of improving it for the article. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:32, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * That would be great, either way I suppose. I'd prefer that to be the lead image, since the Hudson photo of course fits nicely in the paragraphs on the visit. Parsecboy (talk) 15:35, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The other one is about 50% done, but I'll see if I can't at least get a quick mockup done right now so that the lead can be improved. Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:58, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Lead image is somewhat improved! Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:04, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it looks significantly better now! Parsecboy (talk) 17:07, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Few more tweaks. Not sure if it'll pass FPC (It is a little blurry), but, at the least, I can get you a good lead, and the other will easily pass FPC. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:38, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/The Peasant Wedding
It would be nice if you could close this one for me. Thanks. Armbrust The Homunculus 20:12, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Advice: File:Marine da nang.jpg
I hope you can give me some advice. Some time ago, I reworked File:Marine da nang.jpg with what I consider better colour balance (and higher resolution) using File:Da Nang, Vietnam. A young Marine private waits on the beach during the Marine landing. - NARA - 532432.tif as a source - resulting in this image. It was reverted six months later since "FP's shouldn't be overwritten."

It seems to me that the current version has significant colour balance issues (redness in shadows, too green in highlights) and should be replaced with the restored one.

Is there a way to do this? ( Hohum <font color="Red">@ ) 17:24, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Credit for Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2015-01-21/Featured content
Hi Adam, I prefer to be "Rod" but that username was taken when I started (2004) so "Rodw" is my username (the w is for Ward) so either is OK by me - thanks.&mdash; Rod talk 07:01, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for advice I didn't know Changing username/Usurpations was an option (or I would have done it years ago) but seeing as so many people know me as Rodw I might as well stick with that. &mdash; Rod talk 17:43, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:Mary Garrity - Ida B. Wells-Barnett - Google Art Project - restoration crop.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on February 1, 2015. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2015-02-01. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:30, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

The Seven Ages of Man
Robert Smirke have a collection of The Seven Ages of Man paintings. We have them unused in Wikipedia. If we could use them in the related article and/or nominate them for FPC will be great. They are from the google art project. Here they are:

--<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969">The Herald : here I am 13:53, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Let's start from the beginning.
 * Do we have an article on the artist? Yes we do: Robert Smirke (painter).
 * Is All the world's a stage overcrowded? No. If anything, it's underillustrated.
 * Are there any problems that might arise? Possibly: The images are somewhat faded, so might be hard to make out clearly at thumbnail.
 * What can we do, then?
 * The Seven Ages of Men aren't an uncommon art subject. There's some engravings at the LoC from the Boydell Shakespeare Gallery; there's the Mulready and Kindersley art in the article already. New article on The Seven Ages of Man in art?
 * Put them into Smirke's article: If All the world's a stage is underillustrated, Robert Smirke (painter) is even moreso. And a nice set of art wouldn't go amiss.
 * Make the gallery a bit larger: &lt;gallery mode=packed heights=250> might take up a fair chunk of space, but I doubt anyone would really object. I wouldn't use hover in an article, though.
 * Can they merit a solo article? If there's enough information out there, a reasonably-high-quality article on a well-reproduced painting/set of paintings should, by itself, be enough reason to promote.

Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:31, 15 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeh..I think we need an article The Seven Ages of Men in art. That would fix the problems. --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969">The Herald : here I am 12:14, 15 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Its created... would be great if you could patrol and review it.. - The Herald (here I am) 12:36, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Jan Bugle
Hi Adam, looking to prepare this month's Bugle for dispatch in the next few days, what sort of timeframe are you looking at for FPs and your book review (remembering we could always hold the latter over for next month if it's easier)? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 02:05, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Let's try for one week, and I'll try to do it sooner than that. FPs can be done tomorrow. This should go back to being done near-instantaneously once I've caught up from the holiday fully. Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:15, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

What Wikibreak?
Adam... Now. Is this about the Featured article review/Pedro I of Brazil/archive1 ? Hafspajen (talk) 19:37, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
 * OH, sorry never noticed the commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Anônimo - D. Pedro, Duque de Bragança.JPG - and the rest of the mess at Talk:Pedro I of Brazil . Hafspajen (talk) 19:50, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like only the FP editors are involved in that voting - and they of course like that picture, it was their choice. Hafspajen (talk) 19:51, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Now, when displayed like this it shows clearly that their preffered version is rather blue. Looks like the Columbus situation, a bit. But then they are not experts on images. Maybe you should nominate BOTH as a FP and  get a response at FP. Hafspajen (talk) 19:55, 17 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Here is a rather god explanation of what a google file is. Hafspajen (talk) 18:43, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration case request declined
You were named in a case request Infobox_nationality_of_people_from_the_UK which was declined by the Arbitration Committee. The committee concluded that one issue in the case was content, which is outside the remit of the committee, and the remaining behavioral issues should be handled by the usual processes. The arbitrators comments can be found at the Permalink to arbitrators decisions For the arbitration Committee -- S Philbrick (Talk)  20:40, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Sign Post Draft
Wikipedia Signpost/2015-01-21/Featured content Hey Adam, I guess I ended up doing most of the signpost "Featured Section" this week to helpout User:Hafspajen and I guess he was in a conflict with some others, that I hope has resolved itself but for now, I am willing to contribute and assist in this on a regular basis if you like. As this is my first go around here, please LMK what your thoughts are, about the current draft when you have a moment. Thank you. <font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→  WPPilot   19:38, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll look at this after a nap. Kind of ill today. Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:11, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Get well soon! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 * It looks like you got a flu. If that's it, I can only tell you what my dad always tells me: (he is a real doctor, you know the kind that cures people)= stay warm, don't go out in the cold, DRINK lots and lots of WARM liquids - preferably tea with a slice of lemon with it, that's really important, drinking warm drinks.  You feel so weird because the bastards produce a lot of poisonous bi-products that has to be urgently washed out from the body.  Don't start exercising and jump around but take a good book  put on a warm cover, kick that cat out of your room,  and drink your warm drinks, 1 cup every second hour or so, and give nature a chance to heal. ( do not drink alcohol, that just ads to the strain on your body - that will have to work twice as much to get rid of the poisons and the alcohol too, don't do that).  Hafspajen (talk) 14:06, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep going on with my evil conspirations. Hafspajen (talk) 00:29, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * You may want to take look at this category too. Hafspajen (talk) 00:32, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Those are gorgeous. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:49, 22 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Proud to be featured article writer again: the nine were not promoted "this week", "mine" for example 9 January, about two weeks ago, - what do you think of "promoted since the last edition"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:55, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Not seeing "This Week". If you point me to it, I can probably give a better opinion. If it's something like "This week's featured content report" I'd say that "this week's" was intended to modify "report", and am not quite sure that "promoted since the last edition" would clarify much, as that still implies it's up to the time published. Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:09, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't now about you but I never counted BIG muscles as a +. Hafspajen (talk) 18:37, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Eh, and I think most fashion models look like scary praying mantises. Our opinion doesn't matter matter matter matter matter. Adam Cuerden (talk) 18:45, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * the ones you speak of
 * just pour your heart out on the floor
 * You don't know how to handle it
 * but you know you'll be back for more
 * Don't mind the lipstick colours
 * we look a million dollars
 * shades in a thousand colours
 * stay on the lookout for us
 * Now


 * I want ye Hafspajen (talk) 19:05, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * to do that. Hafspajen (talk) 22:20, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Why? Hafspajen (talk) 22:41, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

The Seven Ages of Man
As you both know, I have made The seven ages of man. But I am not sure what is meant by engraving as given here. Can you explain that? Is it that Smirke and those engravers worked together to produce a painitng or something like that? - The Herald (here I am) 14:02, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 * No, the engravers made the reproduction of the painting in that book. Don't worry too much about it for the original paintings, other than saying "engravings by John Ogborne, based on the paintings were used in the [blah] edition of As You Like it", or (but only if you have a cite specifically saying this) "The paintings were made for the [blah] edition of As You Like it, for which they were turned into printable engravings by John Ogborne." - this is true more often than you'd think, but really needs a cite. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, given the introduction to the book you linked says they're Boydell Shakespeare Gallery works, I think I can link you to the orginal engravings based on these. The LoC has a bunch of Boydell prints. And you can borrow sources from said article.
 * http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/pga.02309/
 * http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2003677799/
 * http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/pga.02309/
 * http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2003677799/
 * http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2003677799/
 * http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2003677799/
 * http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2003677799/

Others: http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/pga.02784/

Think the other ages might be on the LoC, but I do remember the Boydell works are badly indexed. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:59, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 * thanks. but I don't know how to link the in the article. In lead or in the stages section. Confused. Can you? 15:09, 20 January 2015 (UTC) - The Herald (here I am)

Thanks
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom&diff=642249157&oldid=642248943 Hafspajen (talk) 17:51, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

WWI French POW camp money
I'm at the Smithsonian and found a large box of WWI French POW camp scrip. Not my thing but do you know anyone involved with military history that might have interest in some scans based on location?--Godot13 (talk) 21:09, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not called America's attic for nothing!--Wehwalt (talk) 21:45, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Have you asked at WT:MILHIST? I'm pretty sure they would be. Also, try Jebulon. Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:51, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CVI, January 2015
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Still
It was a fine point. But I coudn't have added it until now since I never realized it that it was the very same picture, the same pic Crisco featured. I only realized that when I checked the 100 kr. bill... You know one doesn't really check the bills for artwork, well at least not me. Godot maybe does it. I only use them to pay and keep them in my pocket... Hafspajen (talk) 15:06, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I know, and I'm not saying don't add things, just to be careful to proofread: it's really easy to screw up grammar when doing complicated links and such. In this case, it read "...this Roslin's portrait." at the end of the sentence, which is quite a grammatical mess [in case that works in Swedish, in English, that means "the portrait of this Roslin" not "this portrait by Roslin"]. Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:49, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I know, you are probably quite right about it. I generally never add anything more since we go live. But this time I kinda broke that unwritten law already when I had to correct the Capitol, so I became less careful, and in the end I thought I might add this too. Was rather nervous about the Capitol thing too. Did you checked that? Hafspajen (talk) 15:57, 23 January 2015 (UTC)


 * That looks fine. Don't worry too much about it. In the end, we are a wiki, it's not like any minor issues will become fixed. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:15, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I wasn't sure about meagre or not. It was the spellcheck, I think it is on USA English. Sometimes it insists to change British spelling to American. Whenever I recognize it, I don't change it. Like colour to color, and such. Sometines I am not quite sure why it is indicating a change. Hafspajen (talk) 16:32, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Firefox is especially bad for that: It insists on having a default American dictionary, that it keeps switching back to. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:43, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, it's not Firefox but it is still USA English. Hafspajen (talk) 20:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Here a lovely Portrait. File:Vincent van Gogh - Self-Portrait - Google Art Project.jpg Hafspajen (talk) 22:11, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * OK if you are sure. Hafspajen (talk) 22:31, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Eh, Adam?? Now what kind of layout is that? Hafspajen (talk) 00:25, 24 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, we might as well give up Muller, he doesn't fit. What do you think of it now? Hafspajen (talk) 01:00, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmm. John the Baptist is looking a little lost with the shape similarity obscured by a dissimilar. I think I'd have Royal Kurgan instead of John in that case, since my one worry is that we make FP look like only paintings. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:16, 24 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Now what? I like John in the sky with diamonds. Fits the amfetamin -thing too. I really liked the idea with the hands. Hafspajen (talk) 01:28, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Eh ... what did we omitted? As photos, Muller, a church and a grave. As for the paintings: Men of the Docks and Dance Lesson . Hafspajen (talk) 01:31, 24 January 2015 (UTC)


 * That's pretty much even. If we have a lot of place we can try to squeze in ...Muller? Hafspajen (talk) 01:36, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hafs, we know there's going to be tons more room. No need to remove anything, we can do more tweaking when things go in. I'm half tempted to make a side image of Shrovetide - much as I like it - and do Muller and Royal Kurgan as a final gallery, but I want to see how it looks with text first. We may be overloaded with galleries. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:39, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * By the way, that Chauvannes is WONDERFUL. I love the Hamlet too, but couldn't find anything higher-res. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:43, 24 January 2015 (UTC)


 * UGHuhuhg. That thing RKugg is a grave. I don't want to put Muller in a grave before his time is outHafspajen (talk) 14:19, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * You really are sensitive to anything related to death, aren't you? I shall try to watch. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:14, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

PS: Feel free to nominate Chav, but keep in mid that it was added recently. Hafspajen (talk) 14:21, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * This guy has been there for long, on the other hand. Hafspajen (talk) 14:41, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Ooh, nice one. Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:20, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, it's a long story. I never had problem with it before - but something happened . And since then I am not much for graves or related issues. I avoid them to any cost. Hafspajen (talk) 19:34, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * No worries. I'll do my best not to emphasize them in future, or, if there's something that might need emphasized, will add it last minute. Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:35, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * You optimist. I am still waiting for you to cover up that grave. Hafspajen (talk) 21:32, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * That counts? There's noone buried there anymore. Anyway, hidden. Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:37, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes. I know, but still dont like its vibes. Hafspajen (talk) 21:41, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Corpse + corpse = corpse + living man: The Miracle at the Grave of Elisha

 * BTW your talk page became quite large now, so I strongly suggesting archiving a big chunk from it. Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 22:29, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:Thomas Hicks - Leopold Grozelier - Presidential Candidate Abraham Lincoln 1860 - cropped to lithographic plate.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on February 12, 2015. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2015-02-12. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:15, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Featured Photos on Sighpost


Is about complete if you care to redress to summaries. Cheers! <font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→  WPPilot   07:48, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * What happened with the bIg Wikilove from this morning? Hafspajen (talk) 18:45, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Turns out it was an attempt to spam. A failed one. Adam Cuerden (talk) 18:53, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Sigh... And me, I always wanted to be 28 January... 28 January (talk) 18:45, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Easy come easy go :) <font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→  WPPilot   04:23, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * 14:09, 29 January 2015 (UTC)Hafspajen (talk)
 * Sigh-post..... and a blue jacket. Hafspajen (talk) 14:27, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

I think we could let Pilot have it his way... why not. Hafspajen (talk) 18:37, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Can you please not add comments to sections they have nothing to do with? I have no idea what you're talking about. Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:58, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Sign lead pic, Adam. Hafspajen (talk) 21:29, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, god, yes, I forgot about that. Sorry. It's been a rough day. Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:31, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Has it been SO rough that you are very tired or you will look at the slimmed version (today or some time is convenient) ? Hafspajen (talk) 22:26, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I hate to say it, but... it's... problematic. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:56, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Is it? Wikipedia Signpost/2015-02-04/Featured content - slimmed version. What are the problems? Stil too long? Hafspajen (talk) 08:48, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Meant the 11th. I haven't even started copyediting the 4th, and won't until Wednesday. Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:08, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Howh. Hafspajen (talk) 16:52, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

OK, I let you sort that out. I will not edit this one, I was thinking about it but back off, leave diff if it might dissapear again. You have been away a while, but you are the chief redactor who has the main responsability. Hafspajen (talk) 18:27, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know what  say - but I let you sort out this you two. Hafspajen (talk) 18:32, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Adam, I will pass on editing this edition, hope you don't mind. I was editing quite a lot of the others and I feel I need a short break. Hafspajen (talk) 18:55, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it. I think we can get this one. Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:14, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

File:William Hodges - Jacques and the Wounded Stag- 'As You Like It,' Act II, Scene I - Google Art Project.jpg
Hey Adam,

How's my restoration for File:William Hodges - Jacques and the Wounded Stag- 'As You Like It,' Act II, Scene I - Google Art Project.jpg done with AKVIS?

Probably ill-advised, I fear: Changing things about paintings is usually frowned upon, unless they're something like an uncalibrated LoC scan. Adam Cuerden (talk) 06:33, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * So I'll revert it, right? BTW, since you have closed this discussion, I think the result must be posted in the Project page. - The Herald (here I am) 15:10, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Aye, probably for the best. I'm afraid that's one of the FPC minefields.
 * As for the discussion - it needed a consensus check, but now that a few people have responded, I've implemented it. Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:57, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Chevron with Oak Leaves!

 * Incidentally, you are also the first recipient of this award in 2015. Congratulations again. TomStar81 (Talk) 08:56, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Congratulations Adam! Nick-D (talk) 09:20, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, I really am overwhelmed by the project's kindness. Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:03, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Bonus muscles
Hafspajen (talk) 15:17, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yay, forgot about that woman. Hafspajen (talk) 23:19, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * No idea what you're talking about, sorry. If it's one of the van Goghs, I'm not putting three images by him while cutting other artists. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:36, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

HWOHO - no, thanks, no more van Goghs. Hafspajen (talk) 00:06, 30 January 2015 (UTC) Pillar of Salt? Hafspajen (talk) 00:16, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Featured content
Also pinging  and : Hey there, I wanted to formally introduce myself; I'm Ben/Go Phightins!, a new co-editor-in-chief for the Signpost. I look forward to working with all of you; featured content is one of the best, most reliable, and most interesting sections in the paper. One concern I have, though, is that it seems to be getting pretty long. I am wondering if there are things we can do to perhaps shorten it a little bit not only for the sake of the readers, who might see a lot of text and just skim, but also for you guys not to have so much pressure each week. I am not sure what the best answer is, and I am certainly open to suggestions, but I was wondering if perhaps an easier approach right up your alley would be the title of the content, a one-sentence summary, a tongue-in-cheek comment of some sort, and then pivot to the next one. It could probably be done in a few sentences for each entry, which might make everything a little easier for you and the readers. This is not a directive, and nothing is set in stone, so if you have better ideas or want to sell me on the current length, I am all ears, but just wanted to make a suggestion. Keep up the excellent work! All the best,  Go  Phightins  !  04:08, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello new co-editor-in-chief, I am new latest editor to join this party and I have been doing many of the summaries for the last two published issues. I have tried to reduce the descriptions to a paragraph at best, but when you have 33 FP's (and creators that are as famous as famous can get) as we do in the current draft, it is really tedious stripping the refs out, and consolidating the text. Haffy (thank you for inviting me here btw) has been helpful with support. I can certainly trim down our descriptions a bit but with the noteworthy subject that this current draft has it is rough. If anyone has suggestion by all means LMK. Cheers..<font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→  WPPilot   04:38, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 08:15, 30 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Go go go Phightins! Hey, you have a point there. An  easier approach  could probably be better than a lot of heavy info that is already in the article anyway. And of course it would make everything a little easier  the readers.  Probably not for us, thought ....   Sigh, gosh we do try to be entertaining, sigh - but it is hard work. Hafspajen (talk) 16:43, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Aye. Let's not try to summarize everything if we can link to an article. We need to give enough that the FC is interesting to read - very easy to get boring if you remove all detail - and we also want it long enough that we can illustrate it, of course. But we've been getting longer and longer, and it's time we cut back a little. Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:50, 30 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Agree, if you cannot explain your message in a sentence or two, you're trying to cover too much. I think people want to get their interest awaked, but not overpowered by too much academic information. Later, if they want, they can always look it up in the article later. Hafspajen (talk) 17:19, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Glad we are on the same page, and I hadn't thought of the point about it being long enough to illustrate, so thanks for bringing that up. You guys do a great job keeping it funny/interesting with subtle humor and such ... I just think it is getting a little long. Thanks!  Go  Phightins  !  22:12, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, we kept the new one on a diet. It slimmed a bit now. Hafspajen (talk) 22:53, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * <font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→  WPPilot   00:59, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Mucha banknote

 * Worth sharing (IMO)... Is it from a specific poster of his?--Godot13 (talk) 05:13, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't recognise it, but Mucha was highly productive. Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:00, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:R. V. C. Bodley restoration.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on February 19, 2015. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2015-02-19. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 19:18, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News 2015—#1


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FC
What's up with the missing picture of the spider? Am I missing a joke? Gamaliel ( talk ) 05:49, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Brady camera

 * Thought you might find this interesting. The not yet written image description has a link to more information...--Godot13 (talk) 01:19, 6 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Drool... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, very nice! But how'd they get a pure white background? Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:13, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
 * More here >Brady camera Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 23:30, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
 * It's a cut out, for sure. Some issues are visible around the wheels. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:34, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

I know that feel bro
I'm sorry to see that are involved in a (probably irrational by now) argument with those 2 editors. We went through the exact same problem at Juan Manuel de Rosas a while ago, because these editors judged which images were correct and which weren't based entirely on written descriptions and their own interpretations of them, in clear violation with WP:OR.

Over time, I've tried to stay away from that article as it has become a WP:BATTLEGROUND on which both editors apply spurious tactics to impose their will. They are difficult to spot for someone outside the discussion, but as I've been through the same myself, without inspecting thoroughly what happened at Dom Pedro I, I believe I know it well. However, I strongly urge you to keep your head cool throughout it, because if you breach WP:CIVIL when discussing this with any editor, it will ultimately be detrimental to your reasonable arguments and Wikipedia as a whole.

Also, while Dom Pedro is related to Brazilian history, you should know that Lecen has a problematic background on history articles.

Cheers. --Langus (t) 22:36, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Sf magazines
Adam, I've had a look in the basement and can get to some issues of Fantastic Adventures, Planet Stories, and Startling Stories; most of which are out of copyright. If you're still interested I'll pull out a couple and scan them -- let me know. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:37, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, let's start with the easy checks: http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/cce/firstperiod.html says Startling Stories will be more difficult to prove (renewed from v.1 issue 1, but may have others out of copyright. Fantastic Adventures and Planet Stories aren't listed there. According to the start, "The list below should include all of the more than 1000 periodicals that renewed issue copyrights (for 1923-1950 issues) between 1950 and 1977, all the periodicals with contribution renewals made between 1950 and 1953 (further years are in preparation), and selected periodicals that renewed between 1978 and 1992, or that did not renew their copyrights. (After 1992, copyright renewal was no longer required.) This may be useful as a guide to people who are interested in digitizing certain periodicals, to point out serials for which further copyright research may be fruitful."

So, while I would hesitate to look into interior matter, I think we're safe enough with covers for Fantastic Adventures and Planet Stories. Preferably ones with under-represented artists. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:04, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, the first box I pulled open has Fantastic Adventures from July 1950 through February 1951, plus April 1951. You can see the covers here in lower res.  A list of the artists can be seen here for 1950 and here for 1951.  Just three artists in this lot: Robert Gibson Jones, Harold W. McCauley, and Arnold Kohn.  McCauley and Jones are moderately well-known in the field; Kohn less so.  Any preferences which one I pick? And should I upload to Commons or just email them to you?  And what format do you prefer?  I don't use this scanner much but I'm sure I can produce jpegs or tif files or whatever works best for you. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 02:06, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Since I had them out and was fiddling with the scanner I went ahead and scanned all but two of them as 600 dpi jpgs. Let me know if you need something different, and how you want to get them.  I skipped October 1950 since it's already on Commons, although at a low res; and I skipped February 1951 since my copy is missing a chip on the right side of about a square inch, which is more than I think could be replaced by image repair work -- unless the image linked above is good enough as a source for the fixes?  The chip has removed most of the purple and white striped loincloth on the right of that picture. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 02:44, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Given that I need to show the source images anyway, upload to Commons. http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/cce/firstperiod.html only goes up to 1950, so I'd better not do the 1951 images without additional checks... How about we start with October? It's in the article already. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:09, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Done: File:Robert Gibson Jones - cover of Fantastic Adventures for October 1950.jpg. The mark near the top of the second "T" in the title is a pencil mark that should be removed, and in case it's not obvious, the tiny black mark an inch below the "U" of Hubbard is a scar, not part of the picture.  Re the Marvel Science Stories cover, I just took a look at another copy and realized that your restoration has a tiny flaw -- you had to recreate the last letter of the faint pink writing on the wall behind the woman.  It appears from the other copy that that letter should be an "O" -- not sure if that's something you would want to change. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 11:24, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I see what you mean. I'll fix that tomorrow. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:17, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Featured picture?
I've noticed that you're active on the featured-pictures page. I admit that I know little about FPC or the requirements for featured pictures, but what about File:Planisphæri cœleste.jpg? Aside fron the image's title (which should be Planisphærium cœleste) and the obvious paper folds, this seems to me to be a really encyclopedic image, showing a stellar map, the various theories of the universe current at the time, and much more. At full size, the textual matter is quite clear. Is it worth restoring (to get rid of the folds), is it a lost cause, or is it something that might be nominated? Deor (talk) 00:22, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

File:LwHUy0eHaSBScQ edited by DrKiernan.jpg
As noted in the protection summary, this is just meant for use in his userspace; presumably that's why he uploaded it here instead of to Commons. There's a big difference between edits for a file meant only for local userspace and edits for a file meant for mainspace, since only the latter will appear to ordinary readers. Nyttend (talk) 13:05, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to label this as modified in the description as well as file name. The description is only basic because I didn't see the point of putting in much effort when I intend to delete the file if it is not accepted.
 * If you really want to see a crappy bleached out copy then look at http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/403708/pedro-iv-of-portugal-emperor-of-brazil-1798-1834 ! Truly terrible. DrKiernan (talk) 17:48, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd label it: Thing is, things meant for one purpose have a habit of migrating to other purposes sometimes. And, honestly, given the vagaries of lighting, I can't really get up much objection to yours: paint isn't printer ink: You can never perfectly reproduce a painting. It might go a little far, but...
 * The problem is when you leave that range. Hint, by the way: I'm not sure what tool you're using, but you're making your blacks light as well as your highlights. Try small tweaks to contrast or, better yet, using the "levels" tool [don't use autolevel, though, ever, and I wouldn't tweak any of the RGB, just the overall level]. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:14, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:Official program - Woman suffrage procession March 3, 1913 - crop.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on March 3, 2015. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2015-03-03. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:48, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Possible FPC
Hello Adam Cuerden,

Since you seem to be the de facto authority on such matters: what impression have you as to this image. I personally think it's gorgeous and might meet the FP criteria but since I've never really dabbled in the area, I'd like to put you to the question. The image depicts the Bombardment of Salé, by the way. Thank you, --ceradon ( talk  •  contribs ) 03:31, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 * @ceradon: The painting is good, but we'd need a better scan. Both sides are under the minimum resolution, for one. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:48, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Mmmk. What do you think about this: http://www.sothebys.com/content/dam/stb/lots/L12/L12034/162L12034_6GQKQ.jpg Thomas Luny's depiction of the Bombardment of Algiers, aptly called the Bombardment of Algiers. Cheers, --ceradon  ( talk  •  contribs ) 04:07, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Still too small. Minimum is 1500px on both sides. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:23, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Aye. Lovely images, a bit too small, though. Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:32, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

An International High Noon Divorce
Thank Adam Cuerden so much! I think it is a interesting picture. But the top part is brighter than the bottom part. And perhaps a little crop would be nice. Thank you!--Paris 16 (talk) 02:09, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * My answer. Thank again!--Paris 16 (talk) 08:05, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Feb Bugle
Ready for FPs anytime you are, Adam... Tks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 21:38, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Draft ?
Where is next draft Hafspajen (talk) 21:51, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * please? Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 12:50, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

AHEM; AHEM. Socrates (talk) 21:51, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Please? Miltiades (talk) 21:51, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Please? Mata Harry (talk) 21:51, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Please? Napoleon (talk) 21:51, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess you are telling me without words (rather a monologue this one) that you are not doing Signpost for one or other reason, not feeling free enough or you felt criticized or you just got tired of it, but it is not the same without you. I tried now to fix things but it is not the same. Tell me if you change your mind and I will be happy to work with you again. Right now, I will leave it to others. Hafspajen (talk) 13:21, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Hafs has done a mountain of work on it. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 15:15, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * No, it's not ready - but without Adam is .... No Fun. Hafspajen (talk) 16:01, 22 February 2015 (UTC)




 * Sorry, been too stressed out to check my talk page, just focusing on the restorations, which I find very relaxing. Will set it up now. Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:14, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Baby, to late, it's up. Hafspajen (talk) 20:17, 22 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Knew I was going to screw this up. Wikipedia Signpost/2015-02-25/Featured content + Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2015-03-04/Featured content.Hafspajen (talk) 20:19, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

File:Young Jay Gould and Hamilton Burhans.jpg
I did think that. If you think it's likely PD, I'll defer to your judgement- If you clean up the image page and make a claim for it being PD, I won't revert you! J Milburn (talk) 16:15, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Non-publication is something that crossed my mind (though for PD-old purposes, I'm not sure that matters)- unclear dating was another. The original provenance is generally a little sketchy. I did take the uploader's claim at face value, but then we've also got to ask why they chose to claim it was non-free. In retrospect, the deletion tagging may not have been the best option. If you make the changes, I'll undelete the larger version of the file and revert to it. J Milburn (talk) 16:31, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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FPC section for our next issue
Hey Adam, when you have a moment please launch the next issue. Cheers. <font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→  WPPilot   14:00, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, been a little busy, so been focusing on the one aspect that really relieves stress - the restoration side. Can set it up now. Sorry! Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:12, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Adam,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:The Mikado Chappell Vocal Score cover (c.1895).jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on March 14, 2015. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2015-03-14. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:41, 24 February 2015 (UTC)


 * A one- or two-line plot summary would be much appreciated. I've tried, but that's a dilly to compact. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:41, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, don't worry about that plot summary. User:Ssilvers took care of it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:54, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Mikado




Imagine that was Freudian. Hafspajen (talk) 18:57, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Hafspajen (talk) 09:30, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/An International High Noon Divorce
Javascript failed somewhere to credit you..Ṫ Ḧ <sup style="margin-left:0.5px">the joy of the LORD <sub style="margin-left:-47.5px">my strength 13:41, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Note on commons:File:Norman Saunders - cover of Marvel Science Stories for April-May 1939.jpg
Adam, just FYI, since you had said you were planning to fix the minor error I pointed out here: I added a short note to the talk page of commons:File:Norman Saunders - cover of Marvel Science Stories for April-May 1939.jpg about the error, so that if you don't have time to fix it others will know and will have the reference available to fix it for themselves. I thought I'd let you know in case you're still planning to do it but it had slipped your mind. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:08, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

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On mine, at 170, you get 2 long rows, with one centred images below it - really hideous. This is really irritating that one can't make a gallery look good on all screens, how is one supposed to do a good job like this<+ Is 140 OK? Hafspajen (talk) 12:33, 3 March 2015 (UTC) Road has ghost. Hafspajen (talk) 16:07, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Woman climbing
I nominated "yours" for TFA: Today's featured article/requests/Fanny Bullock Workman in women's history month, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:33, 4 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for "raising it up in her memory", precious again, see? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:54, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

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Was almost thinking of making Sandow lead image, but there are no men in FPs- Hafspajen (talk) 21:10, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

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Ntozake Shange

 * File:Ntozake Shange, Reid Lecture, Women Issues Luncheon, Women's Center, November 1978.jpg - Think this is worth cleaning up for FPC? The character, the composition, it's great... but the grain is a bit heavy. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:30, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * If Lehar passed, this should. Only real obstacle would be the existence of better. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:07, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Lehar was also much older, if I recall correctly. Alright... I'll try and dust off my restoration skills. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:10, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It's been heavily retouched already, on the negative probably- what look like white lines in the eyeballs, forehead etc., but the grain looks too prominent for sheet film, so what may have been done is that a print was made from 35mm neg, then copied and the retouching done on a 5 by 4 neg (hence the white rather than black lines). Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 23:22, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought too (left side of her face, in particular). Still a darn good portrait. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:46, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Maners
First I had no intention reading anything more about this discussion, but when I noticed the tone and style, After this post on this discussion, telling I am making things up to try and cover his own ass... Oh, really, in what way? I will now leave editing of Signpost for a while. I don't want my name be posted together with some who calls me full of shit. WP:POLITE. For heavens's sake in WHAT way was I rude, (where?) ungrateful (in what way?) and the part  Full of shit, that I think it is definitely going to far. I am not discussing anything further in this tone. This is no way of discussing things and no way working together. I never work together or take any assignments either from people who treat me impolitely or use abusive language towards me. I think that I was much less rude than he was, thank you. Hafspajen (talk) 19:41, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I had rather hoped that week had been smoothed over by now... Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:54, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You did? But why should it? Nobody said sorry that I called you rude, ungrateful and full of shit. Or anything similar. Hafspajen (talk) 21:06, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I was unaware of this debate before you linked it, so had hoped it had blown over. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:11, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for asking. Hafspajen (talk) 00:58, 14 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I am sorry I was out of line. While I did not feel that the conversation on CorrineSD sandbox was productive or correct, I had asked for her help as the lack of direction that you have noted in prior communications was something I simply wanted help, from that user on to keep everyone happy and look now it has blown out of proportion. The second issue I ever edited on SP was with you and you suddenly went ballistic, said you were quitting Wikipedia as a whole and said how horrible Wikipedia was. The only issues were in regard to the week that was published late, and that is now being pounded into the ground. Many entries on SP's current version I wrote and no one had any issues with them, nor were the final changes far from what I had originally published. You got upset about a draft of the King of Sweden I never completed after I asked CorineSD for assistance, and you told that user she was not allowed to help then went to a sandbox and started talking smack about me hoping that I would not discover the conversation. I felt that was rude, yes. Often your talk posts simply don't make since. I have tried to understand you but as other users have also mentioned, it can be hard. With regard to ungrateful, going to someone and telling them not to help me really seems like your lacking in gratitude for my attempt to address the issues mentioned before regarding the style of the text of my contributions. With regard to Full of ****, that was totally out of line, and I am sorry but I did not feel that you were providing the whole story. Once again I am sorry I was out of line. <font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→   WPPilot   05:08, 14 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Well I am sorry too, but I would like to put this urban myth about my  your talk posts simply don't make since. There was absolutely no lack of communications.  I asked you to write your own entry  on one of the pictures you nominated that got featured, in January this year, because Adam was travelling and I did asked at that point about five people to start writing up their own entry in Signpost, not only you. Than you and only you offered to continue to write in the Signpost of all the people I asked to help me that week. And I haven't disappeared at all and dumped everything on you at all. On the contrary to what you say many entries on SP's current version it was me who wrote and Xanty - while Adam did the final copy editing  - and I invite everybody to check the history and look how much everybody contributed and how, it's all in the history.
 * About copy and paste : check this, this was 22 January 2015 Mark this comment: simply did a copy and paste of the sections of the content, please correct ASAP it that was incorrect. 21 February 2015 check please here: Later both me and Adam said in different occasions clearly:  Don't just copy and paste the lead, because we are not supposed to do that, we should use the text to write up a summary... if you do so, it will just have to be rewritten,  that was 21 February.
 * Check, recently: this is entirely copied and pasted from the article. Wrong article on top of everything.  I noticed    you saying that I (this was said about me) am making things up to try and cover his own ass... well, in what way?
 * And I am not THAT bad  communicating  like everybody here wants to believe - I can't communicate when I really want to.   But I can communicate.  I just sometimes don't have the time.


 * I can and I wasn't making any mistakes pointing out things, neither did Adam, though Adam was much more outspoken, he was not trying to be diplomatic like I tried. There was communication all the way. See User talk:Adam Cuerden, check this, especially Adam's last comment, User talk:Adam Cuerden on Sighpost  check User talk:Adam Cuerden ...  check User talk:Adam Cuerden - and nobody likes conflicts.  And I don't agree that it was poor communication at all. If it was poor communication, that it was rather removing all our comments and saying 'adios! instead of sitting down and going through our issues we raised.  I think we were rather clear in what we meant.  One has to be able to take directions, I listen to Adam if he is raising an issue.  And it is Adam who is the chief editor, and he is the one who has the main responsibility, the last copyedit and the who sets the style and final layout. And we have to listen to him. Hafspajen (talk) 05:56, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Can we please step back a bit? I don't think this is helping much. Alright. Here's my views:
 * Copy-paste is... something we would ideally not use, but when we have dozens of FPs, it becomes a necessaity. Used well, it's fine, though I have had to change the disclaimer since we tend not to mark it.
 * Descriptions should be coherent. If a description ends half-way through describing something, that's a problem.
 * [This is something I haven't said before, but...] I'd rather have several descriptions that are nearly-finished (e.g. they need some copyediting, but all the material is there], with a few I need to write myself, than everything having text, but not publishable. In the case of the week I complained about, the attempts to rush it meant that I had to reresearch everything. If there's a few grammatical mistakes or the like, I can fix that quickly, but if there's not enough there to work from, I basically have to do all the steps I'd have to do if I were independently writing the description to get the background I need to fix it. That's the problem I was complaining about.
 * I don't really care which tack you take when describing something - if you choose to focus on the picture's subject, fine. If you choose to talk about the picture, great. If you want to talk about the painter or photographer, well, as long as it puts the painting [or whatever] into the context of that painter's [or whatever] career, sure. . The only thing is, if it goes too far away from the subject of the FP (it's usually FPs that this applies to) I will cut down to try and keep it focused a bit more, because I don't think we should get too distant from the specific subject. For example, if the picture is of the outside of a building, but spends almost all its time describing the inside, I'd probably refocus it a bit.
 * And, finally, this is meant to be fun. Take breaks as you need them, but please don't:
 * Tell other contributors they must do something
 * Snipe about other contributors behind their backs. If you have issues, politely raise them to the contributors or me.

One final thing I do have to say, and I apologise for this, but, I'd really rather no-one spoke on my behalf. I tend to have nuanced opinions, and whenever someone speaks for me, I usually find myself disagreeing with what views are attributed to me. Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:46, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Politely, thank you. That part you didn't even mentioned, Adam. Maners, is even the heather of the section, I believe. But if anybody in unpolite with me it is just part of the let's kick Haffy in the ass movement, no bother at all. The whole issue from my side was about the tone. Why isn't anyone noticing that? And even copy-paste must be rewritten that is coherent. And has to be  cleaned up, so that IPAs, references and other unnecessary things don't just end up in the middle of the text, and not just  leave them to the others to remove them.  At least some kind of standard has to be on copy-paste too. I was working trough rather a lot of text that was just thrown in the entry before, in the earlier editions and that is rather a lot of extra work, before you got there, Adam, so you might not even noticed that issue. And if there is an article about the painting, as it was in the case of the Swedish King, I think one should at least link it, and second use at least some of the information in it.  When we are voting on FP nominations it is always considered to have better EV if the painting has its own reasonable article.  I was working the heck of me under bad conditions coping with a lot of issues while Pilot did four entries out of 49. I don't get the Many entries on SP's current version I wrote remark, 4 out of 49 is few not many.  And of the above I get the impression that in the end surely  I am the one who doing the wrong things.  Adam, about speaking on your behalf I don't know witch part you mean.  Hafspajen (talk) 04:06, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I was going to say that we could do with someone who knew something about sport, but then I realised that they would write with enthusiasm. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 08:04, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

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This week's Signpost
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Quit Signpost because was accused of being sexist.

 * I have been accused of being sexist. ME. Being sexist. WHAT A JOKE. Also it is considered to be a  luxury of being able to discuss things before publication. Jonesy was able to discuss thing WHILE we were editing alright.

See also - 
 * Have nice time. Hafspajen (talk) 18:17, 21 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I do not believe Ed accused you of being sexist, nor do I believe that any of us think you are sexist. We had concerns that some of the language may have been inadvertently perceived as being sexist through no fault of yours, that is all.   Gamaliel  ( talk ) 18:30, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Perceived by whom? Apologies, Adam, I'm unsure why Gamaliel is carrying the discussion on to your talk page. SagaciousPhil  - Chat 18:36, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm responding to a particular comment on the talk page where that comment was made.  I have no idea why anyone would think that was inappropriate, but if Adam does not want editors to respond to other editors on his talk page, I will gladly abide by that restriction.   Gamaliel  ( talk ) 18:44, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * My question has not, however, been answered ... ... SagaciousPhil  - Chat 18:49, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've left an answer on the FC talk page, but again, I'd like to emphasize that I don't think Haf is sexist, only that the language could be perceived—by at least one woman I asked—sexist. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:19, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

March Bugle
Hi Adam, hope you're well. Should there be an update to the FPs based on those "expected to pass", i.e. are there any more MilHist-related images that became FPs in February? Tks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:25, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

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SP Root Document
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April 1 FC
Hi Adam,

I think I must stay away from this week's issue as I have not so good humor. -The Herald <sup style="margin-left:0.5px">the joy of the LORD <sub style="margin-left:-47.5px">my strength 15:30, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

More
Another Pedro all ready to go, if you want him. Compensation Pedro. Hafspajen (talk) 21:02, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've kind of vowed to do only women for the next two months. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:08, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wikipedia (7th nomination)... Hafspajen (talk) 22:25, 1 April 2015 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Wikipedia_(7th_nomination)&action=edit Well, that was an April 1 joke. Was. --Hafspajen (talk) 23:55, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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Script
Did you say you have a script to populate the nominator and creator sections on new issues? <font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→   WPPilot   17:08, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
 * No. I said I needed one. And, anyway, if it did exist, I suspect it'd need run BEFORE writing descriptions. Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:23, 7 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Good point :) I did it by hand, and I think that about wraps this one for FP, I will do the FL and FA next. --<font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→  WPPilot   19:40, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

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Featured Pictures
Adam, first let me say that I really like how you show the two photos next to each other, GREAT IDEA!!!    I wanted to bring up the abundance of art "scans" that have seemed to dominate the FP section for a while now. I as a photographer think that this is a bit outside of the scope of a Featured Photo in that many of them are scanned, and not really photos so to speak. While the restoration process that some of the scans go through can be applied to photographs, these are still scans. My thought is that perhaps we might want to consider a section for art, that is outside the scope of Featured Photo and has another set of standards we publish that would be more suitable to the section. Any thoughts? <font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→  WPPilot   18:01, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * IMO, Featured photo, or better to call, featured pictures, include all that scans, images, photos, paintings, videos, animations, sounds and all. Hence, it will be no more good to create another section to include scans and artwork as they all are known throughout Wikipedia as featured pictures. -The Herald <sup style="margin-left:0.5px">the joy of the LORD <sub style="margin-left:-47.5px">my strength 18:23, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed. It's featured pictures, not photos. It's one process, so why split it? We need to balance it, making sure paintings aren't all we feature, but we need to balance, not exclude. Adam Cuerden (talk) 18:56, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * This was kind of a follow up to the voting criteria page that you showed us a few days ago Adam, it only had photos on it. Lets establish a page like that for the scans, images, photos, paintings, videos for voters to use as a foundation for voting. I have questions regarding video. As the max size of any video is 100 mb it is hard to get more then 3 min of HD video out of a theoria encoder. If a "picture" is worth a thousand words, 30 frames a second could become quite a mouthful :) but we really should have a set of standards users can rely upon for the voting summary. <font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→  WPPilot   19:19, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed. We could use more, but I don't think we should have FC split - FC shouldn't lead policy. Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:38, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * If the art works are promoted through the same processes as the photos, then we should include them all in the same section of FC. But there's no reason we can't experiment with subdividing that section however we want, such as art in one subsection, photos in another.   No reason we have to have all the images in the same order we always have.   Gamaliel  ( talk ) 20:34, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed, but we'd need planning - there's a lot of ambiguity. Also, that's going to drastiically slow setup, so not until after my guest leaves. Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:59, 12 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Roger that, no hurry. <font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→  WPPilot   23:02, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Work in progress, but the hard bits are almost done. ETA: "eventually". <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica"><b style="color:#333333; font-size:small;">Res</b> Mar 03:22, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I noticed your note at line 152: Because featured pictures are often titled haphazardly when placed into WP:GO, relative to the nomination titles, this routine will often fail. The only thing to be done in that case is do it manually, and tell the WP:GO people to be more alert about copying nomination. That should be noted and included on the nomination page so I am doing it here. <font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→   WPPilot   03:32, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * One request: If the bot hits an uncertainty, can it please simply mark it as needing manual filling out, especially as respects creators of FPs? I don't want us to accidentally start stripping credit from, say, restorationists and co-authors by accident.
 * Also: FPs are intentionally titled differently at WP:GO vs nomination. There are four standards for nominations at FPC. 1. Filename 2. Joke 3. Semi-descriptive 4. One of above + 2nd nomination.
 * However, the nomination link may be easily gotten by going to the filepage and looking at the template put on it. For example. - that means that the nomination was Featured picture candidates/The Fighting Temeraire. That should make it relatively easy to get the nomination. Adam Cuerden (talk) 10:35, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Adam Cuerden (talk) 10:35, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not finished so I wouldn't read too much into the code just yet. Good point on the FPs. <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica"><b style="color:#333333; font-size:small;">Res</b> Mar 13:19, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The nice thing about the WP:GO names is that they're usually suitable to be the name used in FC for the image. I sometimes tweak them, but they're generally fine. Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:23, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry guys, this week, I'd prefer to stay away from FC. Its damn tight and busy. The WikiCup, you know it. Plus, my exams are on next week. Thanks and keep up the good work. -The Herald <sup style="margin-left:0.5px">the joy of the LORD <sub style="margin-left:-47.5px">my strength 04:18, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CIX, April 2015
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Hillary Rodham Clinton - Move Discussion
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POTD notification
Hi Adam,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:Levi Morton - Brady-Handy portrait - standard crop.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on May 16, 2015. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2015-05-16. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:17, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Ask Moonriddengirl
I think there is a lot more to this that you and I don't know about and Drmies would not have placed an indef block without very good reason. Whatever Drmies has found out is obviously stuff that cannot be put up in public. He doesn't love me that much to go vendetta because of me. Adam, have you forgot who I am and how I am? And User:Moonriddengirl, the nr 1 expert on copvio confirmed that the attributin inscription on Singpost is not enough, it needs an active attribution. This means that currently the Signpost editions are filled with copivio. And Moonridergirl should know, she is the number 1 expert on copivio. Take care. Hafspajen (talk) 14:11, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I've emailed you, Adam. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * So that means then, that we should stop work on FC until this copyvio thing is sorted out? Okay, down tools . Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 14:40, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Please ask how the correct attribution has to be done,  ... I am not sure I understand it either. Before we use to write :
 * According to our article:  this and that, and use to put it in "". But of 's answer I understood it has to be linked somehow. Hafspajen (talk) 15:04, 2 May 2015 (UTC)


 * PLEASE Adam, for the sake of what we had and shared - do try adopt the perspective I give you now just for a second. PLEASE. Just try to do this, just for one second, and then judge. How about trying my perspective a short, short time, just go a mile in in my shoes, as the Indians say, before believing uncritically everything HE say.
 * I was defending myself ... for month. Without much success at all. It felt like being got stuck in a mire, whatever I have said, whatever I did, I was only sinking deeper in the mud. It was like living in panic for month. Adam, I think you are one of the funniest, wittiest - one of the most brilliant editors I know on Wikipedia. You are intelligent and sometimes near brilliant. Please, see me for what I am. Try to look at both parts before you judge, like good judges do. I know you for being a good guy. Don't break my hart you too, God knows I was crying enough already. Please. Hafspajen (talk) 13:50, 3 May 2015 (UTC)