User talk:Adam mugliston/Archive 4

Teaching Materials
There is a flaw in the teaching materials, we may need to find a way to block certain activities or rewrite the entire exams. --  RexRowan Talk  09:38, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Where? What actually is the flaw?  Adam Mugliston Talk  09:40, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * All the students can see the results of all the exams taken by every single one of us right on the HQ or in the archive. Even the final exam, if they just type our usernames in instead of their own ones, then they've got all of us. Face-surprise.svg --  RexRowan Talk  09:44, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's true, but that's the thing with Wikipedia, everyone can see everything. There is no way to block this and every single course has this flaw. If you have any other suggestions, I'd be very interested in hearing them.  Adam Mugliston Talk  09:46, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I suggest, instead of using their own user names, we will send them a random code each. Like an involuntary lotto. --  RexRowan Talk  09:48, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Me like! However what do we do with the existing ones? Would that be enough to make them think everyone has had a random code? Plus, it is possible to view all pages beginning with User:Adam mugliston/Adopt/ they could do it that way, but maybe they won't know about that if we don't tell them.  Adam Mugliston  Talk  09:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Cough* If I might butt in here, surely seeing other editors answers is exactly the same as going to look up the answer from WP policies, and shows initiative. It's up to you to work out if the student is learning, or reciting other answers, and you are allowed to ask follow up questions! Worm TT(talk ) 09:55, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I guess it's the same as looking up policies, but we will be easily able to recognise a copy and paste from a policy. They might rewrite a section of policy which means they understand, which is good enough. But a copy from another user, does not necessarily mean they read the answer or understood the lesson, just that they wanted to have it over and done with.  Adam Mugliston Talk  09:57, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello grandpa, are you at work? Face-grin.svg 'What one man can invent, another can discover.' --  RexRowan Talk  10:03, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Rowan, that could've been taken rudely. Mind what you say. How does that phrase relate to this?  Adam Mugliston Talk  10:06, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I make crap jokes. I will stop. Face-monkey.svg --  RexRowan Talk  10:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, now back to the point. Do we need to do something with the existing exams, mainly yours actually...  Adam Mugliston Talk  10:09, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Ah, don't worry about that, I often joke about how old I am compared to my adoptees... a recent discussion about which version of Civilization was best ended up with me feeling really old. As for the topic at hand, another option is to change the questions for each candidate... I'm planning update WP:ADOPT soon, and include my course as a resource... it wouldn't be too difficult to put a switch in so that the questions change each time. Just trying to work out if it's worth if, as I've always been able to spot when someone doesn't understand what they're saying. Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 10:11, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * So, you mean prepare a few versions of each test? In that case, should we still do the random code thing? <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  10:13, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I was thinking, multiple versions of each question... generated at random... but I don't know, it doesn't seem worth the effort. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 10:14, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I think I'll wait for Rowan's opinion on that too, but I think it might be worth it in my case. Any chance you could show me how to do that a little later? <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  10:17, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Certainly, the code would be similar to my Random Image code, and would involve lots of sub pages... <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 10:21, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Great, I think we'll give it a go. I have to pop out for a bit now, I have a haircut at 11:45, but I should be back in about an hour, so if it's alright with you, we could to this random thing then. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  10:22, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Plus, I've already experienced your complicated codes with the adoption stats box. That was not easy... <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  10:23, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with Worm. Otherwise, you will have to wait for me to complete my online course in January or even apocalypse. I know nothing about programming at the moment. I will be happily taking notes. Confused-tpvgames.gif-- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  10:26, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * So you are for doing this random thing? Good. We'll do it when I get back. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  10:28, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I'm back and ready for random questions. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  11:38, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, but I'm a touch busy... how about you two try making a start? <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 11:43, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll have a look at your Random Image code, could you just give me a starting point? <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  11:46, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * A combination between that an safesubst would be the key... or you can leave it for now :) <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 11:47, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Back, sorry, got carried away in a funny film Face-grin expert.svg -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  11:55, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I think just because I don't know what a safesubst is, I'll wait until you're less busy, Worm. Let me know. Meanwhile, Rowan, we could get on with creating different versions of the questions. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  11:57, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, on it, write a different subpage and I go look for content. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  12:00, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, the original questions are at User:Adam mugliston/Adopt/Five Pillars/Test. We need a few versions of each question, so basically create similar questions and stick them in at User:Adam mugliston/Five Pillars/Test/Random. This won't be the destination where we will be getting the random from but just stick them in for now. Just as an example for the first question on the Five Pillars test, you could create a question where we ask if we could include something we can't, so that the answer to the question is no, rather than yes or make similar questions with the same answer. Does this make sense, because even I got a bit confused here? <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  12:06, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I would like you to pause for a sec and look at how Hersfold did it, he did not include the questions on the page but sent a separate link to the adoptee I think: -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan  Talk  12:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Ok, we can still do that if you prefer, we can even do it with random codes, but we still need several sets of questions. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  12:11, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It looks like the whole course is a big practical on how to build the adoptee's userpage. I can not track the tests from the history. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  12:17, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I guess that's the way Hersfold wanted to do it, but that's not the way I do it. You don't have to track tests from history. I provided the link with the test above. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  12:20, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, got it. I'm on it. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  12:22, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Random questions not random question sets, yeah? -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  12:32, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think if Worm can manage to help us do that, that'd be very good, as there will be about 20000 combinations. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  12:35, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, leave it to us. You have a wonderful holiday, say hello to your families. Remember to take some photos so you can come back and add them into a random photos set. [[File:SoleteRayosÑajo.gif]] -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  12:42, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Well I'm here today and tomorrow, so I'll actually do the randomising with Worm later, you just make up questions for now. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  12:47, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, the questions I made may not have the same answer. Is that a good way of constructing questions? -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  12:50, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, the ones you did for question 1 are excellent. So the L'oreal one will be a no, but the others are a yes I think. Question 2, excellent idea with the sexism. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  12:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I think I will write the questions out and then we can all join in and talk about it before we set the answers. The thing about YouTube is that, if you search for Batman trailers, there are many fake ones, so it is essential that the trailer is from the Official Batman movie YouTube station or website. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  12:57, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, I couldn't remember that question. Well I'll see the question and decide on the answer, so no need for discussing answers. Remember, this is not all official and formal with mark schemes. I'll mark as I consider correct. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  13:03, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I like your style, judge, jury and executioner. Emblem-cool.svg -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  13:12, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I guess that's a compliment. Thanks. :D <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  13:23, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Rowan, about the new 4B and 4C, I don't think a magazine would write simply about another magazine. Look at what I did with 4A, it needs to be more like that. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  13:32, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the correction. Done with exam 1, I'm not even sure the content is appropriate. If anywhere needs rewording or complete change, just do it or tell me. I will write another version. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  13:56, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * 7A needs specifying what match.com is to be used as and per my comment just above, 4B and 4C need rethinking. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  14:10, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I followed the template on 4, can you check it again to make sure? About 7A, it is an external link, you can click it and have a look, a major match making site. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  14:34, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

I changed 4B and 4C, have a look what I meant. About 7A, I meant how would it be used in the article. As a source? As an example of dating sites? How. Sorry for not replying immediately, I got drawn into Divorce Court... so funny. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  14:59, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * That looks neat! I rewrote 7A. Are you like on a on-demand service? -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  15:58, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * 7A still does not address the problem I mentioned. You still aren't saying whether the link is being used as a source, as an example or as a something else. No I don't have on-demand service, simply Freeview. It was on Really. Quite funny. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  16:11, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I changed it, tell me if it's ok now. Did you watch Judge Judy? In one episode there was an earthquake and she ran out first, hehehe. :D -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  16:17, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * 7A: Great, that's what I wanted. Judge Judy: No, I didn't watch it, I rarely watch Really really. That must've been something to watch, I wouldn't have thought they'd air an episode like that. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  16:28, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I am very pleased to annouce that we have 327680 possible configurations of the Five Pillars Test!!! Good work, Rowan. I am presenting you 'The Invisible Helpfulness Award' for doing so much work with this. Thanks. Ready for the next set? <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  16:34, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! Sure! You want to test the coding first? -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  16:40, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. I would test the coding, but I don't know how to, so I think I'll wait for Worm with that. Unless you make any sense of it? Just have to pop out again, shall be back in half an hour. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  16:42, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

I did a mock up User:RexRowan/testcode -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  17:05, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Rowan!!!! It's not in your userspace!!! You put in someone else's!!!! <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  17:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I moved all of them. User:RexRowan/testcode -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  17:16, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, I speedied the redirects. Worm, is the code correct? We'll need to subst the pages won't we? <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  17:17, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Good enough for me. Yes, you need to subst the page, but I think you need to safe subst it, which allows you to subst on subst... <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 17:20, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll get it all ready. However everytime I click the link now, I always get the /3. How do I safe subst? <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  17:21, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It only changes when you save the link. Off to have dinner now, back soon! :D -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  17:23, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It changes when you flush the WP cache. You can do that by saving the page or clicking on a purge link. Don't worry too much though, it's working. I'd need to look up safe subst. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 17:25, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Well if you wouldn't mind, that'd be great. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  17:31, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Back, I had some energy drink. SHysterical.gif -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  17:48, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Rowan, Wikiquette next. Source: User:Adam mugliston/Adopt/Wikiquette/Test. Randoms: User:Adam mugliston/Adopt/Wikiquette/Test/Random. These need simply 2 or 3 sets of the whole thing, it's basically one question. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  17:49, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  17:56, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Position B is always the same... Also, what about the question 3, where'd that go? <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  17:58, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I corrected it. With this one, only change the box in the template, not the questions. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  18:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Question 3 is unrelated and so could be changed. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  18:10, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed, remove it if you like. Also the box can have more positions if you want. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  18:13, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Rowan, there is no question 3 on the extra sets. Check the source. 2 positions are fine. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  18:18, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * There is not any questions on the two extra sets because we can randomly change the box without changing anything else. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  18:23, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Alright then, let's not bother making extras of question 3. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  18:25, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I will write the code, one sec. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  18:28, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Here: User:RexRowan/testcode2 -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  18:36, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll have sort them out later or tomorrow or something. I'm having some trouble with technology at the moment and so am in a bad mood. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  18:45, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't be. Have a cup of tea, a bath and a walk. You are doing a great job, no one asked you to do anything but you did it and did it well. Humanity still has hope. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  18:48, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for trying to cheer me up. Unfortunately though, this technology problem has no solution and so I'm probably going to be miserable anyway. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  18:53, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> Ask Worm and be happy! :D <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  18:55, 10 August 2012 (UTC) has asked you to join them for a nice cup of tea and sit down here.


 * Oh this is now Wikipedia related. I need an Apple expert really. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  18:56, 10 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Visit the Apple Genius Bar. :D -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  19:01, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, thanks, but my nearest one is an hour away and I would like it sorted tomorrow. In the morning, I'm doing a 2.5 hour shift in the library, in the afternoon I'm packing. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  19:03, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Have a look through this and maybe someone can help: [] -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  19:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I might do that, however it turns out Worm might be able to help after all. (See the conversation on his talk page.) <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  19:13, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm drinking bear now, cheers. Have a great holiday! -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  19:32, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Polar or brown? Talk tomorrow. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  19:33, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Beer, hehehe, wasted already. Until tomorrow. Confused-tpvgames.gif -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  19:37, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Morning! I'm in for a very short time until 9, then will be on from about 12.30, but on and off quite a lot I guess getting ready for holiday! I forgot to say, you also have an uncle, Ryan Vesey. Anyway, I'll give you some instructions for when I'm gone later. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  07:33, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Morning! I had bad dreams and hangover. But I started to wake up now. I like libraries, but most of the books I want they won't let me take home. I have added Ryan but I wish to have a better template for my family tree, like one of those phylogenetic ones. Ok, take your time, no hurry-- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  09:24, 11 August 2012 (UTC).
 * Oh dear, Too much beer. In my library, there are only about 20 books you can't take home, everything else you can. I am here now, so we can get on. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  11:21, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Does the school library let you use your own computer there? I remember when I was in university all personal computers must be offline. I thought about the coding last night and it's going to be quite massive, with the subpages. What do you think we should do? We can write content for alternatives, abort the mission, ask for help or carry on.-- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  11:45, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, it's not the school library, that's closed obviously. It's our local library in the town. In our school one, you are allowed to use your own laptop, but you can't use the internet unless you connect to the school network. I don't mind subpages. So, write more alternatives and carry on. KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON. (Just about that last bit, I saw a notebook in John Lewis that said SOD CALM AND GET ANGRY, haha). Next set of Qs: Source: User:Adam mugliston/Adopt/Copyright/Test. Extras: User:Adam mugliston/Adopt/Copyright/Test/Random <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  11:50, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, sod everything. I think I will write the content and leave the coding for Worm. Have a wonderful trip! -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  11:58, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No! Don't sod everything! I was just saying that I saw that and thought it was funny. You've done the coding perfectly and so keep doing that too, I'll leave sources and randoms for when I go and you keep writing the coding in your userspace, when I move it over, you can CSD U1 it, but not until I copy it. Ok? <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  12:04, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Would that cut down my edit counts? Can you show me how to archive my talkpage? -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  12:06, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No, that will not cut down your edit count. I see you have copied a code, let me see what's wrong. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  12:07, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Archiving seems fine, Misza Bot will be round later (sometimes it takes a few days for the bot too realise, so don't worry). <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  12:10, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, no problem. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  12:12, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

I think I'm going to tackle the codes now. I learnt how to safe subst. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  12:32, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok. I added the edit counter and the edits it shows is different from the result in my preference, I'm not sure why that is.Confused.png I think I'm still half asleep.SYawning.gif -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  12:44, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It's different from counter and my preferences for everyone and no one knows why. Code unsuccesful. The randomiser is ok, but when substituted randomiser still works, meaning after refreshing different question shows. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  13:21, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I had headache, the alcohol must have reacted with my medication. Ok, the counter doesn't matter that much. I don't know about the mechanism of coding, I just copy and pasted from Worm's code. I guess I will learn more about it soon. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  14:29, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh dear. Don't drink alcohol. It's bad for you. I doubt the course will teach you Wiki markup. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  15:29, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I thought I'd live fast and die young, but I'm still around. When you leaving? -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  16:24, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Tomorrow morning, between 9-10am. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  16:26, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Awesome! You gonna take the train? You are so lucky! Have you chosen your GCSE subjects yet? You wanna do what Worm does in the future? -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  16:37, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Now hold on a second. How do you know how old I am? No, we are driving. And yes I've done my choices March 2011 then more March 2012. No, I want to work for TfL. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  16:39, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know. Maybe I'm a psychic. That's very good, I think you will get the job, you already have such a good portfolio! Remember to bring sun cream, something like P50 is best. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  16:49, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, you must've had some source. We have P30 sun cream :D. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  16:51, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Cool! That's good enough! Have fun! Face-grin.svg -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  16:56, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

We will! While I'm away, get on with the Copyright alternative questions, I'll have internet access next Saturday, so I'll give you sources and alternative pages then. Keep an eye out for the adoptees. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  17:05, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

-- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  17:09, 11 August 2012 (UTC) BTW, watch this film Mary and Max if you have time. I have the same thing Max has got. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  17:34, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Doobie Jefferson
Posted a page at Adam mugliston/Adopt/Entry/Doobie Jefferson, which put it in the main encyclopedia space. I have moved it to User:Adam mugliston/Adopt/Entry/Doobie Jefferson, where I guess you intended it to be. This may be a one-off, but perhaps you should check your instructions for adoptees to make sure they are clear about how to return the form. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 17:38, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  18:14, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I added her on my watch list. I wanted to upload a photo of myself but Wiki didn't let me. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  18:29, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You probably put in the wrong copyright. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  18:32, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I said it was a free work belongs to me, anything else? -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  18:35, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Did you use a template? Hmmm, what criteria was it deleted as? <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  18:39, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No, I chose upload as a file, it says bad name or something. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  18:40, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah! What did you call it. Write exactly what you put. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  18:42, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Screw it, I will use an image on the Commons. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  18:50, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

LauraRenee360
Should it be a subpage of your userspace? →<font color="#BA0000">Σ <font color="#036">σ <font color="#036">ς. 18:44, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It is now. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 18:58, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

That page creation thing
Heya, Your auto-creation for User:Adam mugliston/Adopt/Entry/... has resulted in a problem, LauraRenee360 created it in the article space. I think you should get rid of it to be honest. For one thing, <S>brand new editors can't create pages,</S> another - it's likely that a new editor who doesn't understand things will create the page in the article space and finally, you have no idea of knowing when they're created. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 18:57, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, me and Rowan thought it'd be a nice easy way of them filling out the questionnaire without our participation. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  19:02, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Is there a way to create a box left on their talk page which can result on your talk page like Worm does it? -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  19:07, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The talk page link on my Userpage? That's pretty simple, just hardcode the link. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 19:10, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Was wrong about part of that. Anyway, the whole point adoption includes your participation :P <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 19:08, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes I know that, but I thought that part they could do themselves. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  19:12, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It's a good idea Adam, but I think that the people you're trying to adopt aren't capable of doing it... not too surprisingly. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 19:17, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Awesome, the Wormhole Function! How to hard code stuff? Sorry, I'm a dipstick. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  19:13, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Rowan, this is my adoption school. You are an assistant. I am fine as I am, no need for hard coding and whatever else. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  19:14, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, just trying to help. Peace out! -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  19:15, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * something like this? <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 19:17, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * And what would that be used for? <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  19:27, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * That would be an example for RexRowan, of how to hardcode a link to an edit page. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 19:31, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh fine, he can look if he likes. I've solved the button problem. I have decided to completely close my adoption school until my return. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  19:32, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It's your call Adam, you are a very capable person. Maybe I should politely withdraw so I don't mess things up for you, yeah? -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  20:12, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Not a bad idea, have a good holiday. By the way, I've moved Talk:LauraRenee360 to User talk:Adam mugliston/Adopt/Entry/LauraRenee360. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 20:14, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * If that's what you want to do, then fine, however if you would just stick to simple tasks you are given, I'd be happy for you to stay and it would be quite helpful. Worm: That was supposed to be at Talk:LauraRenee360, as it is that user's talk page I intentionally wrote on to notify them of their successful application. Just realised that mistake, it was simply meant to be User talk. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  20:16, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much Adam. I feel very relieved. I don't think my mentality can handle this much yet. Thank you for being considerate! -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  20:22, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * So, simply stick to what I tell you to do (currently alternative questions) and just concentrate on that. I'll handle everything else. Deal? <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  20:23, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of User talk:RexRowan/Archive 3


A tag has been placed on User talk:RexRowan/Archive 3, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

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First Communication.
I hope you enjoy your vacation. Unfortunately, I too, will not have a whole lot of internet time in the coming weeks as I am preparing for my 4th year at Ohio State University. I still have a plethora of conflicts to address. I do, however, appreciate the adoption. I will definitely be sure to make the most of your lessons. I don't quite think I am ready to move on to lesson two. I will get back to you though as soon as I feel that I am. Again, thank you for taking the time to mentor me. Doobie Jefferson (talk) 06:20, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Adoption
I have completed your adoption quiz, and am ready to start the adoption lessons. Be aware that I will not be completing the course each and every day, since I have a life, and, as of 3 September I will be juggling Wiki with school.

Thehistorian10 (talk) 17:26, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Awww, thanks! <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  17:50, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. And sadly I had to go and report the guy. ^_^ <font face="Arial" color="Red">Swifty *<font face="Arial" color="DarkRed"><sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk 22:38, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

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ANI
Hi Adam. Can I please ask that you never suggest people go to ANI? It's not a good place for dispute resolution, it causes more problems than it fixes. I've got a bit of a mess to clear up now. Remember the dispute resolution lesson? You should notice that I specifically don't suggest it. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 07:30, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It was Swifty's idea in the first place. I agreed with him that that's a solution after another warning. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  07:47, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't deny that. But it's plastered across the top of his page - "Complaints: All problems should be directed to WormTT. Any disputes, any problematic editing, anything at all - if Swifty is getting stressed by it, he should contact WormTT and then disengage until WormTT responds. Swifty must walk away from problems until help arrives." - egging him on to ANI was just about the worst thing you could have done there. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 07:50, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Well I don't check users pages before helping them, so I couldn't have known that. Why is all that on his page anyway? It's a bit weird. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  07:54, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It's conditions I put on him to allow him to come off an indefinite block. An indefinite block which I am now having to look seriously at reinstating. You tried to resolve the dispute, and did a good job at that. The problem was suggesting ANI if it didn't work - ANI was the wrong place for a content dispute and just generally a wrong place. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 07:58, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh dear. Indefinite block, ouch. Well I guess it may not have been the best, but I didn't have others. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  08:00, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It's ok to not have other solutions, that's something I (and everyone else) has to deal with on a day to day basis. Identifying that you couldn't help and suggesting a place to get that help is a valuable skill, one which I hope more people would learn. The problem is that ANI is never a good place for lasting solution. If at all possible, try to forget it even exists, remember that there's no rush (it's not the end of the world if the encyclopedia is wrong for a while) and refer people to DRN if it's a content dispute or a specific admin (eg, me) if it's not. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 08:21, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I wanted to speed things up a bit, because personally it drives me nuts when I have to wait for someone to reply, unless it's late at night. Everything I do here on Wikipedia just seems to go wrong, so I'm just gonna stick around to keep an eye on a couple of things, but I'm not going to be getting involved with anything anymore. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  08:26, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think you're doing anything wrong or the stuff you do seems to go wrong either, I've seen a lot of decent stuff come from here! Just remember that there's no rush and patience is a virtue... Everything is summed up with this comic strip - http://xkcd.com/386/ <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 08:55, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Haha. Well, all the bus stuff went wrong with Charles and Co. Everytime I try to help it seems to go awry and pretty much the only thing I can do is AfC or Adoption. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  09:05, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

I would like to boldly defend my adopter on the following facts:

I am fully aware that I am not a lawyer and this is my opinion and opinion alone. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  10:39, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * An mistake is a mistake, not a sin, mistakes can be corrected. Mistakes committed with good faith should especially be reconsidered by the decision maker with good faith him/herself. A mistake corrected is a lesson learned, then move on and let the editor improve and learn some more without being judgmental.
 * Adam was only giving an advice, which is only a personal opinion. Anyone can give personal opinion on anything to anyone. I could have told Swifty to jump off a cliff, but the action is taken by Swifty therefore Swifty is solely responsible for his own judgements and actions.
 * You are indeed right on all these points. I am merely suggesting that going to ANI is bad advice, just as jumping off a cliff is. If you were to suggest someone jumped off a cliff I would be talking to you about not doing that too. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 10:52, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I know grandmaster, I forgot to take my medication yesterday. I'm screwed in the head sometimes, hehehe Confused-tpvgames.gif. Swifty, don't jump, here is an ice lolly, walk slowly away from the cliff, it is not safe.Face-surprise.svg -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  11:01, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Per request, personal information has been redacted and suppressed here. Rex, please be more careful regarding this personal information in the future. <span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;'><font color='#000'>Worm TT(<font color='#060'>talk ) 13:31, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  13:31, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure. I didn't think age mattered, I thought only the logic counts, but of course. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  13:33, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, age doesn't matter here, but a bad person could find this information about me, realise my age and attack me. Yes, extreme case, but it's personal security precaution. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  13:34, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure, that I understand, but the attacker won't make a well founded argument though. I know what you mean. I won't mention again. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  13:41, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No, they won't attack on Wikipedia. They could attack in real life, break in or something. But yes, on the internet pretend like you know nothing personal. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  14:26, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow, that twisted! Sorry, my autism makes it difficult to comprehend other people's intentions. Maybe grandmaster can have eye on me every now and then. -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  14:32, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keeping an eye on you is my job, not exactly Worm's, but I think we both do anyway. <font style="color:#000;background:#ADFF2F;"> Adam Mugliston Talk  14:34, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Does your hamster have a name? My one fell into the toilet once, hehehe :D -- <font style="color:#000;background:#FF0000;"> RexRowan Talk  14:45, 30 August 2012 (UTC)