User talk:Adambro/Archive 7

=2 June 2007=

Fair use rationale for Image:Song07Fesitval.gif
Thanks for uploading Image:Song07Fesitval.gif. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

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 * I would suggest you are incorrect in saying that there was no rationale for the image, I may however agree that it was incomplete and believe I have addressed this now. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I will take some time to ensure all my fair use uploads have a more detailed rationale but I'm of the opinion that fair use of logos is fairly obvious. Adambro 15:59, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

=4 June 2007=

Please keep an eye on BNP
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I am writing to you because over the last few months you have all played a significant part in editing and debating the article BNP. Even though we have not always all seen eye-to-eye, it is the case that all of you have shown an interest in producing an article that is accurate and representative of the subject within WIkipedia policies. The purpose of this message is to alert you to a potential threat to the article and to ask for your help in keeping a watchful eye on it over the next few weeks. I am going to be away from home with only occasional access to a slow dial-up connection.

On 1 June, I added to the BNP infobox the descriptor 'fascist', with appropriate references (as had been discussed a few weeks back - see archive discussion). I was happy for anyone to question this in the usual way and, indeed, had other references available if necessary. Almost coincidentally, an anonymous editor User:86.146.242.233, began making a series of edits without justification. On the talk page, he referred to previous editors (i.e. you) as "the many militant liberals and communists" and indicated that he was "also going to be going through the whole article because I notice most of it is either liberals or nationalists posting their points of views". I asked him to identify his position and was told "You're fucked up, leave the god damn article alone" and he told me to "stop trolling the BNP article". He also made inappropriate comments on the user pages of other editors to the BNP article and, for no reason I can fathom, did this to the user page of a 14 year old: [].

User talk:86.146.242.233 shows he received several warnings and was eventually banned from editing (having only recently, it seems, been released from an earlier ban). This might have been the end of the matter, but the following day a new editor appeared with the name User:Evianmineralwater and proceeded to make identical edits to BNP and some related articles. I reported my suspicions that 86.146.242.233 and Evian were identical to adminUser:Anthony.bradbury who agreed it seemed to be the same person but told me had been banned again. In fact, he was banned for using a trade name and returned almost immediately as User: Mineralwaterisgreat. (I had misunderstood what the admin had told me and assumed he had been banned for vandalism and so reverted his edits on that basis, earning a rebuke from another admin for my mistake.) Mineral has made the following statements, among others.


 * Wikipedia is "corrupt piece of shit populated with idiots". Rebuked by an admin, he replied, "Wikipedia IS corrupt AND populated by idiots."
 * On the references I had provided: "I'm not reading the references because they are obviously left wing and I'm not buying a god damn book."
 * About me: "This guy wants to keep adding fascism to describe the BNP when it has been refused on both the disambiguation page and the main page. Isn't it clear to see he's just a troll without the best interests of the article in mind?" (I'm not sure what he means by being refused.)

Elsewhere, he has said he is a BNP member and that he intends to edit the article to remove anything he regards as anti-BNP bias.

Now I can deal with personal attacks or ignore them as the mood takes me, but this user is clearly setting out with a POV agenda that we have, I believe, worked hard to keep out of the article. (And, yes, it has sometimes been heated but I still think we have done a good job between us.) I am even happy to debate with BNP members and supporters if they use rational arguments and respect the views of others. (An honourable mention here to Fethroesforia.) I would hate to see the good work we have done go to waste, so I ask that you keep an eye on the article and ensure that edits are made in the correct wikipedian spirit, backed up with sources as appropriate and discussed in the talk page where necessary. It is highly likely that this person could reappear under other names.

(Incidentally, it is ironic that this person has chosen to attack me so vehemently given that, apart from regularly removing the BNP ARE WANKERS type of vandalism and correcting references, the only edit I can recall ever having made to the actual article is to add 'fascism' to the infobox.) Sorry to go on, and I know you are all busy with other projects. Thanks for taking the time to read this. Emeraude 10:52, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads up. Adambro 11:09, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

In response - Wesley College, Dublin
I am the webmaster of the college website, thus they are both my own work and of permission from the college Historicalbuff


 * Thanks for taking the time to respond, I have left a further message on your talk page. Adambro 13:48, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Bank holiday here so will be early next week. If you have any idea how to make some sort of a table under the notable alumni/sports people in wiki format that would be helpful.

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=6 June 2007=

Template:Infobox UK disused station
Your comments here leave me concerned that you might not be familiar with the Ownership of articles policy, in particular that no editors own articles (or templates etc.). Whilst I must suggest that Pigsonthewing is welcome to make whatever changes he feels appropriate, it could of course be polite to discuss these with the main contributors as they may have a better understanding of the intended purpose of a template. Regards. Adambro 21:52, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * My language was probably have been too emotive, however I do not feel inclined to revert this edit. I believe that User:Dreamer84 who is the major contributor to this template should be allow to make this change. If he deems is appropriate to revert my edit, then so be it. --Stewart 22:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

=7 June 2007=

Coord, etc, in classic skin.
I've done some experimenting in my User:Tivedshambo/standard.css, having copied in what seemed to be the relevant part of MediaWiki:Standard.css. I had no idea whether it would work or not (I just hoped it wouldn't screw me up completely), but it seems to have done. I've changed the position of the coord as follows:


 * top:12em to top:3.5em
 * right:30px to left:163px

This puts the co-ordinates between "Printable version" and "In other languages", on the left side. The only problem is that is where "You have new messages appears", but as that disappears once the message has been read it seems like the best solution I can think of. Could you have a look, and implement it in the standard.css if you think it appropriate. Thanks. – Tivedshambo (talk) 11:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Correction - "You have new messages" doesn't appear there anyway. I'll put a editprotected request on the css to ask for it to be changed. – Tivedshambo (talk) 16:16, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Could I ask that you clarify the changes you are proposing? I had a go at making the changes mentioned above and still had some problems. Regarding editprotected you needn't worry yourself with that as I'll be happy to do it but I'm just unsure as to whether this is solved yet. Adambro 17:18, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll take a look at the request and try if it works for me. Regards. Adambro 17:20, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry about the confusion, for some reason when I tested it in my own Standard.css file it wouldn't work as you were describing. I've made the change now and it appears to work. Well done for finding a better solution. Regards. Adambro 17:34, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Possibly your browser needed purging? Anyway, thanks for doing the updates. – Tivedshambo (talk) 17:56, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

=10 June 2007=

Commons image
Thanks for alerting me to that problem. I don't log into Commons regularly so would have otherwise missed it. The JPS talk to me  23:36, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for sorting it out. Regards. Adambro 23:52, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

=13 June 2007=

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=14 June 2007=

Gronger wikipedia page
I would like to ask why the wikipedia page 'Gronger', has been removed. You classify it as patent nonsense, when Gronger is the nickname of one of my schoolfriends, he has given me permission to use text and images, i have proof he exists, and the text involved was not in way shape or form insulting or offensive, i request that i may be allowed to re-add it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Deejayleedsunited (talk • contribs) 14:57, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Such pages are inappropriate regardless of whatever permission as been sought, Wikipedia is an enclyopedia and details of nicknames of school kids who are unlikely to be notable are not appropriate. Please do not continue to create such pages. I suggest you familiarse yourself with the basics of Wikipedia, Five pillars. Adambro 14:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Gronger Wikipedia Page
You say that it's of no interest, i know plenty of people who have already looked at it, and you can't specify what people do and don't want. There are plenty of pages i find useless and of no help, but they're still on Wikipedia, why not mine? Call it what you will but there are plenty of people i know who looked at the page within 10 minutes of its going up, i think taking it down is extreme, and to be honest, it shows a lack of any kind of humour what so ever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deejayleedsunited (talk • contribs) 15:15, 14 June 2007


 * Wikipedia is not MySpace or some free web hosting provider. The decision whether to delete an article is not based upon popularity, it is based upon an analysis as to whether the article meets our key policies and guidelines. It is irrelevant how many of your mates have looked at the page, clearly this is not of interest to the wider Wikipedia readership. I have deleted the article under Criteria A7 because it doesn't assert in what way the subject of the article is notable to satisfy our notability guidelines.


 * And no, I don't have any sense of humour with regards to this issue, Wikipedia is a serious project not some play thing for kids to mess around with to impress their mates in IT class at school. Adambro

Gronger wikipedia page
For your information, i am not in an ICT class with any friends, I am at home having done a GCSE examination this moning, where hopefully it will give me the chance to get somewhere in life and not spend all day moaning about people posting wikipedia pages, It is a serious page, as it is about a real life person, only there is a humorous element to it, as Francis is a lover of humour himself. You do not have to be deadly serious about every little thing you do with your little Wikipedia Patrol Status, lighten up a bit and stop acting as though you're the CEO of wikipedia, or whatever you think you are, it's pathetic how you can complain so much about one web page, if you're so adament its useless or whatever, then let me post it t see if i can prove you wrong. If i'm right then we shall hear the end of the matter. Ok? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Deejayleedsunited (talk • contribs) 15:31, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

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