User talk:Adamgawad

Miss California Teen USA Stefanie Sweeney
Hello, I'm TJRC. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Miss California Teen USA, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. ''HI, just some additional info. You included a website URL, but nothing at that URL makes any mention of what you added. There is no mention of Stevi McShane. There is no indication that Stevi McShane and Stefanie Sweeney are the same person. There is no indication that McShane won Mrs. California International 2008. There is no indication that she is President and CEO.

Your addition would be ok, if you have some sources to support it.'' TJRC (talk) 16:05, 31 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Miss California Teen USA Stefanie Sweeney married last name is McShane. She now uses the first name Stevi professionally.  Legally her first name is Stefanie.  Stevi was crowned Mrs. California International 2008, and is the owner of Crowned One Productions.  I attempted to link to the Crowned One Productions page http://www.crownedoneprodictions.com which confirms this information.  I was trying not to overwhelm the table with data.  Thank You Adamgawad (talk) 19:46, 31 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm looking at http://www.crownedoneproductions.com now, and see nothing that says any of that. Can you quote what you're reading? TJRC (talk) 00:59, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi the reference is in the about us pages http://crownedoneproductions.com/usi/aboutusi.html

Thank you for your patience. I'm also trying to learn how to link the reference! Adamgawad (talk) 01:05, 1 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Great, we might be getting somewhere here! Do you have any reference that shows that Stefanie Sweeney and Stevi McShane are the same person?  It can be either direct (saying something like "Stefanie Sweeney, now Stevi McShane") or indirect, (saying that Stevi McShane was Miss California Teen USA 1993, so a particular winner was identified)?


 * A reference being supplied by McShane herself is not really the best; in order to be deemed to be a reliable source, sources should be "reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy". McShane's own company really doesn't qualify as "third-party". Technically, it's only McShane's claim.  I personally wouldn't fret about that in an article about a beauty pageant title, but there are others who would.  Hasn't she had any interviews or other news appearances where this would have been reported? Our general process at Wikipedia is that we only document things that have been reported elsewhere.  If a fact has not been reported in print or other media somewhere else, it probably is not important enough to document here.  See also No Original Research.  TJRC (talk) 02:59, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Here is a link to a photograph of Stevi as Stefanie being crowned Miss Teen California USA https://mobile.twitter.com/CrownedOne93/media/grid?idx=7&tid=289095608457900032

Here is a link to Stefanie McShane Owning Crowned One Productions

http://www.mylife.com/stefaniemcshane

And finally here is a link to The March 2014 issue of The Platform Magazine which references her Miss Teen California, her Mrs. California International and Crowned One Productions.

http://www.magcloud.com/webviewer/716851

Thank you for your patience. Adamgawad (talk) 04:12, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Oh as a PS she was interviewed for the March 2014 issue of The Platform Magazine.

Adamgawad (talk) 04:24, 1 June 2014 (UTC)


 * The The Platform Magazine cite is particularly helpful. How's this? . TJRC (talk) 08:01, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Beautiful. Thank you!

Adamgawad (talk) 18:33, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Suggestion call it American Beauty system. She also has Mrs. Ms. Jr. Teen and "little" categories. She has responsibilities for American Beauty that cover the western United States. Anyway thank you!!!

Adamgawad (talk) 18:50, 1 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Is that in the Platform article? TJRC (talk) 01:16, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Don't sweat it. Thank you very much for your help and guidance!

Adamgawad (talk) 01:35, 2 June 2014 (UTC)