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Edit war on Agent Carter (TV series)
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Agent Carter episode articles
What was your thought on these? I'm sitting on reception refs and I don't know if I should wait on putting them for the main article, if you were just going to create the episode articles. I'm fine with either. I have some other interview articles as well to sift through. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:55, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I am planning on making individual articles, and have started some stuff in my sandbox. I will probably leave it a couple of days as some critics don't get reviews out straight away. - adamstom97 (talk) 23:19, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for A.K.A. Jessica Jones
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X-Men - Days of Future Past
I undid your Undo - if you had checked you would have found that the movie had officially been nominated.
 * I know it has, that's what I said. It has been nominated, but we don't know if it has won or not, so the final decision is still pending. When the results are announced and it is confirmed to be only nominated, then we change pending to nom. - adamstom97 (talk) 03:12, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes sorry I had a think about it and was about to revert my revert to your revert. Thanks ( I suppose it's obvious that 'pending' implies that it's already been nominated, now I think about it....!)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alpalfour (talk • contribs) 03:50, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Katana
Hey, I thought you may like to voice your opinon on a matter that is currently being debated over at the DC comic book character | Katana's Talk page. It concerns Arrow. Thank you and cheers, LLArrow (talk) 06:32, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

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ANI discussion for User:Zzaxx1
If you are interested in following and/or commenting: Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 05:47, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Apology, "Aftershocks" plot summary
Hello there. I'm sorry for getting in the way with my recent edits to the Aftershocks article. You've been working on MCU articles a lot longer than I have, so you have a better idea of what you're doing than I do. Anyway, I spent a few hours writing and then trimming a plot summary of the article, which I will share with you here. I'm not sure if you have a draft of the article started (you seem to be pretty fond of drafts), but if you don't, I hope you will find my plot summary useful, even though you'll probably trim it further. It's 710 words currently. Does the 400-700 word count from movie plot summaries apply to TV episode plots too, or are they supposed to be shorter?

Also, have you written a draft/are you planning to write a draft of the "Aftershocks" episode article anytime soon? If you are, I'll just wait for you to start it in the mainspace. If you haven't and aren't planning to in the next week or so, I may take a stab at writing it. I hope that if I follow the What They Become article as a template it will meet your standards, since you wrote most of that article. :) I don't want to start the article if you've already got a pretty good draft of it in your userspace. AmericanLemming (talk) 11:48, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for the message but there is no apology necessary, really, in fact I took what you did and molded it into what we have now, so it isn't like you were disrupting me or anything - I often find it easier to start from something, no matter the quality, rather than start from scratch, and your initial plot summary was a great stepping stone for me (my biggest issue was the length, as I am trying to have every short summary be 5 lines long, which is just a personal choice really but I think it has turned out pretty good, at both the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season pages and at the Agent Carter page).


 * Please feel free to move forward with an "Aftershocks" page. I have been a bit busy recently and haven't gotten around to anything yet, but I would like to point out that the page itself already exists at Aftershocks (Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.). At the moment this page just redirects to the Aftershocks section in the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 2 page, so if following this link takes you there and not to the actual page, just scroll back up to the top and click on the "Redirects from ..." bit. Then, just replace the little bit of code that is there with whatever you need. Following "What They Become" is definitely a good start, and I will certainly come along at some point and c/e or expand whatever you make. Ensure that you have enough reliable sources when you first make the page, as there are some editors who seem dead set on deleting these pages if they aren't ready yet, even when we are in the middle of improving them. And if you wish to set up any future pages, or do any of the remaining Agent Carter ones, please feel free, as long as you, again, have enough reliable sources. As for the summary length, I wouldn't be surprised if the same restrictions applied, or if some editors wanted to follow those guidelines any way, but I personally just write the best summary I can and go with it, so I'm sure some of these episode articles have summaries that don't fit within those suggested boundaries. I wouldn't worry about that too much unless someone takes issue with it. And don't worry about "my standards". We all just want the best encyclopaedia possible, and if myself or any other editor finds something that needs improving, we will do so, or will make a suggestion for someone else to do so. That team work is what often catches the little errors that you can miss if you're tired or are doing a whole lot at once. - adamstom97 (talk) 12:14, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

"Aftershocks" plot summary
In 1988, Skye’s mother helps a young Inhuman named Gordon come to grips with his newfound powers of teleportation; Gordon is revealed to be the eyeless man from the end of the last episode. In the present Skye is quarantined back at SHIELD headquarters because she was exposed to the terrigenesis mist. Everyone at SHIELD is grieving over Triplett, and Coulson wants to get revenge on HYDRA, whom he blames for his death. They mistakenly believe that the Obelisk caused the earthquake and are not aware of Skye’s new powers. Meanwhile, Simmons is in the alien city, documenting it and preparing to flood it. Raina ambushes and kills several SHIELD technicians; her body is now covered in thorns and she has claws on her hands. Simmons shoots her several times but is unable to prevent her from escaping. Coulson then orders Simmons to return to headquarters.

A group of high-ranking Hydra officials meets to discuss filling Whitehall’s position. Coulson initiates a plan to strike back at Hydra by transferring Bakshi to General Talbot in exchange for additional assistance against the remaining Hydra operatives. While on their way to deliver Bakshi, Coulson and May are ambushed by SHIELD forces disguised as Hydra soldiers, allowing Bakshi to escape with Hunter, who is also pretending to work for Hydra. The elaborate ruse is intended to deceive Bakshi and have him lead Hunter to other Hydra leaders. Back at SHIELD’s headquarters, Skye and Simmons discuss Raina’s transformation. Skye is deeply disturbed by Simmons’ insistence that Raina is “infected” and that superpowers are inherently dangerous and harmful; Simmons blames herself for Triplett’s death and feels that her interest in superpowers is indirectly responsible. She plans to test Skye’s DNA “just to be safe”, which worries Skye.

Dr. Hyde stows away aboard a cargo ship in San Juan where he is found by Raina. She is furious about her transformation and blames him for it. Dr. Hyde is delighted to hear that Skye has undergone terrigenesis, although he still wants revenge on Coulson for killing Whitehall and becoming a father figure to Skye. Raina asks for his help in undoing her transformation, but he tells her that she got what she wanted and that it cannot be reversed. When she says she cannot live as such a repulsive creature, Dr. Hyde coldly tells her to commit suicide. Hunter and Bakshi arrive at Mr. Bloom’s house. Bakshi goes inside and tells Hunter to wait in the car. Morse gets in the car right after Bakshi leaves. Hunter asks her about the secret she and Mac have been keeping. She tells him that they are both in a “support group.” Baskshi tells Bloom that the other leaders of Hydra are plotting to kill them based on false information from Hunter, and Bloom orders the other leaders to be killed. Raina stands at the edge of a busy street, preparing to kill herself by walking into traffic.

Fitz tells Skye that she underwent a transformation similar to Raina’s, saying that the only way she could have survived the earthquake is if she had caused it. She becomes very upset and lose control of her powers, shattering a lamp. Skye tries to clean up the broken glass but cuts herself in the process. May comes by and asks if anything is wrong, having heard Skye’s scream. As she explains to Skye how Trip embodied the principles of SHIELD, Coulson arrives at Trip’s home to inform his mother of his death. A montage shows the assassination of several Hydra leaders. Hunter and Morse barge into Bloom’s house, killing him and recapturing Bakshi. May and Simmons see that Skye is bleeding and become suspicious, but Fitz arrives and gives a plausible explanation. He shows Simmons that the DNA tests came back “normal,” allowing Skye to leave quarantine. After May and Simmons leave he explains that he switched Skye’s old blood samples with the new ones and promises to keep her secret to protect her. Raina crosses the road and is almost captured by SHIELD soldiers but is rescued by Gordon, who teleports her to safety. A model car that Mac gave Coulson scans his office and finds Fury’s “toolbox.” Mac reports this to Morse, who says that she will “make contact soon.”

AoS season 1 reviews
Found two more: AV Club and Collider. Don't know if I'll be able to add them or not before you get on next. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:08, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, the refs on the page are horrendous. How did we miss that? I'm working on some for the review, but we need to double check stuff, mainly archives. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:52, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

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Revert on Avengers accolades
Hi. Hope you're well. I didn't remove them because I'm disputing that the film won the awards. The organisation which gives this award as well as the awards articles subordinate to it went to Articles for deletion at Articles for deletion/Phoenix Film Critics Society where they were judged by the community to be non notable. These accolades lists are not a list of every award that a film has won as you can see if you compare this list to the one on IMDb just the notable ones. I hope you understand and won't revert me when I restore my edit. Cowlibob (talk) 09:49, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Apologies, and thank you for explaining. I won't revert you when you restore the edit :) - adamstom97 (talk) 09:51, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

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The limits of consistency
I'm a fan of consistency myself, but it's important to keep in mind that there are practices—such as listing an internal link under the External links section—that are suboptimal and shouldn't be replicated for the sake of consistency. For example, we wouldn't want to add disambiguators to every US state article just because we do so for Georgia and Washington. The MOS says WP:SEEALSO is the place for portals. And I'm also unsure of the breadth of articles you want to use this non-standard practice on. Anything at all related to the MCU? Just articles on the films themselves? I'm not going to fight you on this, but I hope you'll reconsider. It's best to adhere to standards absent a compelling reason to deviate from them. --BDD (talk) 00:24, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * All I am saying is that you seem to be in the right, so why not go to the MCU talk page, state what you want to do and why, and then change all the pages that have the portal so that we are doing the right thing, but consistently. - adamstom97 (talk) 00:52, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Daredevil (TV Series) episodes
Hi, I've restored the brief Daredevil episode details for #8-#13. It looks like you removed those. If so, why? - AL
 * Because of WP:COPYVIO - adamstom97 (talk) 00:55, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I am new to Wikipedia editing. I can see using Netflix descriptions would have been admissable as short quotations if I'd bothered to put them in quotations, and cite the source of origin. -AL

WP:NOTFORUM on talk pages
I noticed your undoing of my addition to Talk:X-Men: Days of Future Past. This is perfectly OK; I did go a little too far in my discussion. However, WP:NOTFORUM does state that we "should resolve problems with articles on the relevant talk pages, but please do not take discussion into articles." In other words, NOTFORUM only applies to pages in article space (in my humble opinion), not talk pages. Also see "Off-topic posts" in WP:TALKO. Your thoughts? --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 21:00, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Diff link
Here's the original diff:

So, I go to add this and see that once again you revert me. Did you even read the whole thing? Doing something like that makes you look even worse than before. And I'm trying my best to be as civil as I can and not say how I really feel. --Musdan77 (talk) 01:18, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Look, I apologise for my hasty edit, as I was wrongly assuming that you had just reverted my edit, based on the edit summary you gave. I have restored the your latest edit now. - adamstom97 (talk) 01:21, 19 April 2015 (UTC)


 * All right. We both need to try to remember to "assume good faith". I could say more, but I'll leave it at that. --Musdan77 (talk) 19:34, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (season 1)
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The Legend of Korra
Hi, I see you have removed my ref addition by saying that it should be included in the lead. But if you check the article you should see that there are also refs in the lead. In general, you are right, it's better to cite the content rather than the lead. But as far as I know there is no guideline against it. And I'd appreciate it if you could do it yourself rather than removing the whole thing. Thank you! -- Chamith  (talk)  04:31, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn't realise that the info wasn't actually in the article, otherwise I would have left your edit. - adamstom97 (talk) 04:34, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * It's OK, I've also made tons of mistakes here in Wikipedia. Cheers-- Chamith  (talk)  04:55, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Cosmic Cube/Space Gem in the MCU
It seems that there's some confusion as to whether the Tesseract is the Cosmic Cube and/or the Space Gem. It seems that though the tesseract shares some characteristics with the cosmic cube (which seem to be limited to the shape and involvement with the Red Skull), it's been confirmed to be the space gem both in and out of the films, so the primary information should reside there. I agree that a note about similarities to the cube should be mentioned in the film section of the cosmic cube page, but as there's been no mention of the phrase "cosmic cube" anywhere in the MCU, it shouldn't live there alone. Acbsmith (talk) 15:36, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, there is no confusion -it is both. If you hadn't noticed, in the MCU the Infiniy Gems, called Infinity Stones, are all something more than just a stone (the Mind Stone is also the Chitauri Sceptre, etc.) and the Space Stone is no exception, as it is also the MCU version of the Cosmic Cube, called either the Tesseract or the Cube in-universe. Because of this, info about it should be in all the appropriate places, including the Cosmic Cube film section, which should tell general details about the film version as those sections tend to do, and here, where we hsve summarised what the Stones are, and will elaborate as they are collected and used as Infinity Stones. -adamstom97 (talk) 15:54, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * To confirm, then: the Infinity Gems page is only for the summaries of origins and current location, whereas the more detailed information about them should live at their own pages? If that's the case, fair enough, and sorry for the reversions.  Otherwise, it seems to be playing much more of a role as an Infinity Gem than as the Cosmic Cube, so perhaps it would make sense to move the primary location of the information to the Infinity Gems page, and expand the other gems' entries to a similar level of detail. Acbsmith (talk) 16:03, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Your initial point is correct. Obviously not all of the Stones have their own pages, but at least this way we aren't cluttering the section with info that isn't even really about the Infinity Wsr storyline. - adamstom97 (talk) 16:08, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Is it worth setting up a page for Infinity Stones (MCU) to distinguish them from the Infinity Gems? It could act as a home for all the information without cluttering it, and as you rightly say, the other stones don't have pages. Acbsmith (talk) 16:14, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know if we have enough info for that yet, but it is definitely something to keep in mind (we have done something similar with Iron Man's armour, splitting off the other media info to its own page). Perhaps propose this at the Infinity Gems talk page? See what the general consensus is? - adamstom97 (talk) 21:30, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Age of Ultron
Hi, Adamstom.97. With all due respect, the movie never says Stark and Barton are "retiring" from the team. Please see Talk:Avengers: Age of Ultron. Neither that words nor the concept is ever mentioned. Also, we never see the Vision destroy Ultron. All we can state with plots is the concrete, manifest content of the movie. In this case, all we saw was a flash. You or I could each come up with three other possibilities of what that flash could be. Regardless, we can't say Ultron was destroyed. Again, please see the talk page. Thanks, --Tenebrae (talk) 19:55, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Neutral notice
This is a neutral notice of a discussion at Talk:Avengers: Age of Ultron over using either the word "visit" or the phrase "go to" in a particular context. --Tenebrae (talk) 18:09, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Your reversion of my edit to "Avengers: Age of Ultron"
Greetings and felicitations. I noticed that you reverted my edit to the Avengers: Age of Ultron article. I am puzzled by your reason—"that implies something different"—as all I did was change the spaced em dashes to unspaced em dashes, which are punctuationally exactly equivalent, but banned by the MoS.—DocWatson42 (talk) 04:40, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I wasn't aware of the difference between the em and en dashes. I think for consistency, as the mos suggests, we should stick to en dashes. - adamstom97 (talk) 04:50, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * As the article currently stands, it's all em dashes, except in the references.—DocWatson42 (talk) 04:58, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think I have ever used an em dash when creating/editing Wikipedia, but if it is already what is being used then we should be consistent. - adamstom97 (talk) 05:08, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * That is what the MoS states.—DocWatson42 (talk) 05:21, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Last names versus first names in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (season 2) article
Hello there. You recently reverted my edit to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (season 2) where I changed all instances of "Campbell" to "Lincoln". Your reasoning was that "in this encyclopaedia we use formal language, including surnames when noting characters." As far as I can tell, that is found neither in Manual of Style/Film, Manual of Style/Television, nor in Manual of Style/Writing about fiction, though if it's an unwritten rule (and it seems to be) then we should probably follow it for consistency in most cases.

And I would agree with your assertion that it's generally common practice on Wikipedia to refer to fictional characters by their last names, but in my opinion there are some cases in which doing so may be confusing to the reader. Take Lincoln, for example. I don't believe that he is ever referred to as "Campbell," and I don't even think he says it to Skye when he introduces himself to her in "Afterlife." Thus, his last name only appears in the production notes: Declassifying Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D: Afterlife. I would argue that in such a case our readers would be better served by referring to him as Lincoln.

Anyway, if we're going to always refer to characters by their last names simply because it's more formal, then why doesn't the article call Cal "Johnson" or "Zabo" and why doesn't it call Skye "Johnson"? The reason why it doesn't is because Cal is always called Cal, while Skye is always called Skye (except when Cal calls her Daisy), and it would be highly confusing to do otherwise. I would argue that the spirit of WP:COMMONNAME applies here, even though it's about article titles: "Wikipedia prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in reliable English-language sources) as such names will be the most recognizable and the most natural."

I'm not demanding that we call "Campbell" by his first name "Lincoln" simply because that's my personal preference, but rather because I don't see any policies that demand we refer to characters by their last names, nor do I think it makes sense in this case. If you could point me to a policy or guideline saying we should always use last names for fictional characters, or explain to me your line of thinking, I would be happy to reconsider my position. AmericanLemming (talk) 17:23, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I never said that it was from some policy or guideline, it is just a generally used rule in life as far as I have seen. As for Cal and Skye, Skye does not recognise her birth name (yet), she only goes by "Skye", so that is what we use. Cal's full name has not been revealed in the show. We know that it was Calvin Johnson, and that he changed it, and we know what he changed it to because of real world interviews, but that info cannot be added to the plot summaries until it is revealed in the actual plot. You will notice that Agent 33 was always referred to as just Agent 33 until they stated that her name was Kara, which we used until they stated that her last name was Palamas. We always knew that her name was Kara Lynn Palamas, but we couldn't use it in the plot summaries until it was actually revealed on screen. - adamstom97 (talk) 21:02, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

MCU TV leads
As you can see, I started reworking them on the season articles. Does what I suggested make sense to you? It makes sense to me that the brief overview of the episode is right there in the first sentence, which we get now. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:46, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think it makes more sense and is also closer to what we do with the film leads. I have changed the lead of the AoS pilot, and am happy to work through the other episode articles to change them as well. - adamstom97 (talk) 23:50, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I think that would be best. You can probably do them here and there. I'll try as well to get to some. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:02, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Daredevil
Hey! Hope you've been able to watch the series and enjoyed it. I still haven't had the time to start, which is killing me! But I hope to soon to come back and help on the article. I've been adding bits and pieces here and there if you see me popping in, but I haven't watch any of it yet. Also, since the article isn't on my watch, wanted to further explain my last edit on the page. I removed the "Broadcast" subheading because it doesn't really apply, since it, in theory, is an indefinite "release" until presumably Netflix shuts down, or decided to remove their original programming. Hope you agree with my thinking. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:47, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I managed to take a day to binge the whole thing and enjoyed it very much. For the moment I am just letting everybody come and do what they want, and just reverting or fixing up anything that sticks out to me. Once things have (hopefully) calmed down a bit I am going to go through and rewrite the plot summaries, deal with the cast/characters, and add in some other stuff from around the net. I think your last edit was a good move, and we should keep that format for all the Netflix shows, and I will make sure it doesn't just get reverted while you aren't actively watching the page. - adamstom97 (talk) 04:55, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I like that plan. I have a diff edit in my sandbox from where I stopped watching, so I'll see all the revisions up to when I start watching again to see what I can help with. I don't believe my edit will be reverted, but thanks for checking it since I'm not on the page. I'm going to do the same edit for AKA and the drafts. I'm collecting links in my third sandbox for potential additions. Some I've read, others I haven't for fear of any type of spoilers, but feel free to look there or add any you find for us to maybe use. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 05:14, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I saw those links you collected, and have read some, but I think it is a good idea to collect them all in one place for now. I hope you enjoy the show when you get to see it, and then we can look at expanding/improving the article!
 * Also, I have unwatched the Age of Ultron page, as well as the list of films and list of film actors articles, until I see it (the end of next week!), so I won't be adding or cleaning up anything over there until then. - adamstom97 (talk) 05:37, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I've just done the actual article, but have been popping in. Nothing major and it's still in good shape. I'll probably unfollow the other two next week. And I keep forgetting you get all these releases sooner! I don't understand why the films don't come out in the US (the production company country) first? Maybe its some agreement. Ah well. Enjoy! I feel I've done good with this one and don't know too much of the plot. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:53, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Since we were talking about this in my comment above, thought you'd like to see the answer to why the films release outside the US first. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:43, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks Favre, I kind of though that was the case anyway, but it is always nice to hear it from the man himself. - adamstom97 (talk) 04:50, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

"S.O.S.", Parts 1 and 2
I split the two-hour season finale "S.O.S." into two parts. Please don't try to fuse them back together into one. Please talk about this on the "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (season 2)" talk page. AdamDeanHall (talk) 13:46, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

My apology
I sent a thanks for an edit because I'd misread something and it's late and I'm tired. I do apologize for any confusion. With regards, Tenebrae (talk) 00:50, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Agent Carter-related
Hi. I have noticed that you have occasionally reverted some information revolving around some bios for the Agent Carter page. I have been working hard to get some information that was not included in their bios like Daniel Sousa using a type of crutch to help support his fake leg after the leg in question was amputated, how Johann Fenhoff was specially gagged and gained Arnim Zola as a cellmate, and expanding the bio of Miriam Fry (which also included how she had seen one of Harry Houdini's shows on The Griffith Hotel for Women). I know the bios aren't like the bios seen on the characters for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Game of Thrones, Gotham, and Once Upon a Time to name a few, but at least some of us are trying improve the bios of anyone on Agent Carter that was not in the comics even before the next season debuts. Did I leave anything out? --Rtkat3 (talk) 23:22, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Hi Adam, there seems to be some confusion with the duplicate links. Here's the list of the links that were name as duplicates, and where they have been linked previously in the article:


 * Line: The people who are ignored are the people I've been writing as my heroes from day one. With S.H.I.E.L.D., the idea of [ [Agent Coulson ] as
 * Previous link: The series revolves around the character of  Phil Coulson , with Clark Gregg


 * Line: This begins a storyline that recurs throughout the series, and introduces the  Inhumans  to the MCU
 * Previous link: who must deal with various unusual cases and enemies, including Hydra and the  Inhumans .


 * Line: Marvel Television entered into discussions with  ABC  to make a new series
 * Previous link: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. airs in the United States on  ABC 


 * Line: with many cast members  live tweeting  each episode
 * Previous link: with the series' official  Twitter  account having over 46 000 followers


 * Line: Marvel Comics announced an ongoing series titled S.H.I.E.L.D., to be set in the mainstream  Marvel Universe , and written by Mark Waid
 * Previous link: If we're looking for a doctor, we might say, "Is there a doctor in the  Marvel Universe , who would be fun

Alex &#124; The &#124; Whovian 06:38, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

AoS season 3 and AC season 2
Since we got two renewals (yay!) I'm thinking we can maybe split out AC stuff. Not really much for AoS s3 yet, and I've added the info in the necessary spots (main page, LoE in the lead, and s2 article in the lead). Thoughts? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:59, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yay! I am going to get started on splitting AC, but I agree that we may be a ways off of AoS s3 right now. I think just a draft like what we have for DD s2 will be fine. - adamstom97 (talk) 03:02, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure. I think we can do a draft, once we require one. Because right now, we don't even have enough for that. I know the writing section of AC can definitely get a nice cut down to it for splitting stuff, for both season 1 and season 2. Also maybe a LoC and hold off on an LoE like with Daredevil? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:12, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, that all sounds about right. We clearly have plenty of work to do, but I am just going to chip away at stuff now and see what can be sorted out. - adamstom97 (talk) 03:15, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Where are you going to be doing the work? In your sandbox? Let me know which so I can help. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:21, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, here's a good image of the s1 poster from IGN. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:29, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * As soon as I have set something up I will let you know. For the list of tv page, I think we should still add the new seasons to the overview table - we have already added in Iron Fist and The Defenders whilst knowing next to nothing about them, and this overview table doesn't really work the same way as a normal tv overview table would. - adamstom97 (talk) 03:32, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Okay, so I have split AC into a new main page and a season 1 page, and have whipped up a bit of a characters page as well. Thoughts? - adamstom97 (talk) 08:50, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * For the characters page, I don't think we need an overview table, and even if we didn't, we shouldn't be tracking the amount of episodes used. Also, why (I guess for the time being) are we not using the same format as SHIELD and Daredevil character pages? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:42, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * So this format is the one that I have been working on for the SHIELD page (and intend to use for all MCU pages) since before season 2 of SHIELD began airing. I looked to the MOS, which mostly suggests a mini-character article for each section approach, but also looked at the things that everyone else was dead set on, like a table format that has appearance information. The overview table is in place the large, unwieldy table used at the current AoS character page, and its use then frees up the rest of the page from having to be crammed into a table unnecessarily. You seem to be against having to constantly update the article (i.e. the number of appearances, the format of which I took from List of The Walking Dead (TV series) characters and List of Game of Thrones characters btw) and having large sections of unnecessary plot detail. It seems to me that we are already updating the article after every episode, and having to monitor how much plot detail is being added, so I don't think there is anything we can do about that, and I am happy to watch over these character pages as the episodes come out anyway. You can see my new version of the AoS character page here. I was hoping to have it ready to show you guys not long after this season ended, but you can take a look at it now if you want. Essentially, I am looking to have character articles that easily give the information people seem to want (the overview table does that) but also containing actual information, just as the cast sections on the series or film articles do. I don't think these articles should become like others that are clearly out of control (List of The Vampire Diaries characters, for example), but I do think we can make them comprehensive, well-written, and eventually Good Articles. If you have any thoughts on these or questions about how I came to certain decisions, please tell me, and I won't move the article to the main space until consensus is reached.
 * Also, what do you think about the AC main and season articles? Do you see anything we need to change or should we just make the split? - adamstom97 (talk) 22:56, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I will look into the proposed split you did shortly. As for the character page, I really feel the number of appearances should not be there. Because if they are "main", they're main. It doesn't matter the number of appearances (see Ward as an example). And for recurring, I think it is still acceptable just for us to keep track with notes, but it shouldn't be visible. As for ordering in the table, it should be all main cast members together (by billing), then all recurring, not by first appearance as you have it now. Not totally against the actual content change, but in this format I feel it is really difficult to get quick info such as who portrayed the character (which is very easy to see in the current format). Those are just some of my thoughts on that. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:06, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't really see how it isn't easy to get quick info in this version, since it should be easier with the overview info all together rather than with lots of text ibnetween. The idea is that a user can quickly look through the table, and if they want more info on the character they can follow the link down to the appropriate section and do just that. I will take out the number of appearances, but it doesn't make sense for the characters to be ordered in the way that you are suggesting. If this was just a table of main cast members, then in billing order would be logical, but I don't think this series requires a solely main cast table. This is an overview of the article rather than the series or anything else, designed to help readers get to basic info quickly. Not to mention that mixing up the order in this summarised version of the table would make a mess of the first appearances, which is really the only column that characters may potentially share. Overall, it just doesn't make sense to have the characters ordered differently here. - adamstom97 (talk) 02:15, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The overview table should be in the order that the page is. Because that is essentially a second "table of contents". It should be the main characters in billing order, then the recurring in whatever order you have them (I guess it's appearance?). - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:24, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * We can try it, but it still doesn't make sense to me, and I don't think it will look very good. Yes, the rest of the article is by appearance, as this is a list of characters so I have tried to approach it from an in-universe perspective first, and then expand with the real world stuff (so the guests, for example, are all in the [character] (portrayed by [actor] format). - adamstom97 (talk) 02:27, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah the ordering for the guests looked a little funky to me. On to the split, can we maybe reevalute the very first sentence of the season page (here more so than SHIELD or Daredevil)? Because the series has been inspired by other media, not fictitious characters or organizations, it just doesn't sound correct. Maybe for the season page, change it to "based around Peggy Carter, a co-founder of SHIELD..."? Something like that? It's hard for me to explain, but I hope when you read it for the flow, you see the issue I'm having with using that specific wording. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:31, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, on your split of the new main AC page, I feel like most of the last 2 paragraphs can be added to the season 2 article. More comments as I come across them (and I'm making small edits here and there). - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:36, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * For the season 2 stuff, I haven't looked at splitting any of that off yet, by agree that that stuff will probably moved. For the first sentence of the season page, I think I see where you are coming from, but I am really not comfortable with breaking consistency between the series, season, and episode articles. You may have noticed that any time we change the lead in one of the tv articles, I basically make the same change for consistency across every other one. If we are still going to keep the line at the series page, we should keep for the season and episode pages. Also, the next paragraph does state that "The season features the Marvel Comics character Peggy Carter ..." - adamstom97 (talk) 02:40, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I know what my issue is. It's that it reads that the season is inspired by all that, when in reality it is the series that is. We need to reword it slightly so we aren't making that connect. Also, I think everything looks good for the split except one thing: the design section on each. I feel like they should either be swapped, or most of the info should be on the first season split (because we don't know what the time frame of season 2 will be, the 1940s stuff may just apply to this season). Look over my changes to see if you disagree with any, but after we talk about the first sentence and design sections, let's make the split. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:56, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I just tried something, what do you think? - adamstom97 (talk) 03:04, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Fine with the design split - if it turns out to still be in the 1940s, we can just move some back. The lead is getting closer. Now I think it's a bit of a run on, and if you take out that middle stuff it reads as "The first season of the American television series Marvel's Agent Carter, or simply Agent Carter, is set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU), sharing continuity with the films of the franchise." I don't feel like that's first sentence material, you know what I mean? The MCU stuff was good as second sentence stuff. I almost feel like the first sentence of the second paragraph has to come up higher, so it becomes something like this:

"The first season of the American television series Marvel's Agent Carter, or simply Agent Carter, which is inspired by the films Captain America: The First Avenger and Captain America: The Winter Soldier, and the Marvel One-Shot short film of the same name,[1] features the Marvel Comics character Peggy Carter as she must balance doing administrative work and going on secret missions for Howard Stark while trying to navigate life as a single woman in 1940s America. It is set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU), sharing continuity with the films of the franchise. The season, which aired on ABC from January 6 to February 24, 2015, over 8 episodes, was produced by ABC Studios, Marvel Television, and F&B Fazekas & Butters, with Tara Butters, Michele Fazekas, and Chris Dingess serving as showrunners.

Hayley Atwell reprises her role from the film series and One-Shot as Peggy Carter, with James D'Arcy, Chad Michael Murray, Enver Gjokaj, and Shea Whigham starring as well. In May 2014, ABC bypassed a pilot, ordering a show based on the One-Shot straight to series for an eight episode season. Filming took place in Los Angeles from September 2014 to January 2015, and Industrial Light & Magic provided visual effects. The season introduces the origins of several characters and storylines from MCU films, while other characters from the films and Marvel One-Shots also appear."

And while it's not similar to AoS or Daredevil, I think this works better for this. And those could maybe even be tweaked to read like this now. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:15, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I think as long as we do something similar for the AC series and episode articles we should be fine, and I agree that this works better. I also agree with the design stuff, so I guess we will just fix up the leads and then make the split. - adamstom97 (talk) 03:18, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Let's do the split. Thinking on this, what are your thoughts of nixing the "Marvel's X, or simply X" in articles outside of the main page? I think that would help our flow, and on episodes especially, we can remove the "inspired by/based on" info. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:24, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I guess I would be fine removing some stuff if we just look at these as a parent article (main page) with several articles branching off from that (which kind of negates my previous "consistency" point, but could help things flow a bit, as you say). - adamstom97 (talk) 03:27, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I think that all of that info is really necessary on the main (parent) pages, but not so much on the articles where the info doesn't apply has much. It's especially prevalent on Carter pages than SHIELD, because all of it is really based on SHIELD (comics organization). - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:29, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Just curious, where did you take the blue color of season 1 from? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:40, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * From what she is wearing, just where there is light on it rather than in the shadow. - adamstom97 (talk) 03:42, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Got it. Wondering if it should be a little darker (like from the area above the "M" in the Marvel logo), but I'm not going to complain. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:48, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * It isn't really a big deal, I just felt that since we seem to be getting a lot of reds and blues, any way to differentiate them more would be good. - adamstom97 (talk) 03:50, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

So, I have made some changes to my AC, AoS, and DD list of character ideas, based on your feedback. AoS and DD are still a ways off, but I would be happy to move the AC list to the main space now unless you still aren't happy with the format. - adamstom97 (talk) 04:22, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I say let's try AC and see the reception/comments that gets and then we can apply it to AoS and DD. One thing, in the overview table, make a key for the grey to state (as elsewhere) either no appearance or unconfirmed to appear. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:54, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

I have done more work on my version of the AoS character page, and was wondering if, when you have the time, you can take a look at it and give me any feedback you may have on the content I have added. The styling is inline with the current AC character page, which hasn't gotten any comments as far as I know, so I was thinking of proposing it at the talk page before making any change in case users who haven't visited the AC character page may have thoughts on it, but I wanted to run it by you first. - adamstom97 (talk) 08:41, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I like the layout - one paragraph for in-u stuff, the rest for out. However, I think, as maybe mentioned here, or I saw done at the AC page, we should use in the first sentence, this format: "Phillip "Phil" Coulson (portrayed by Clark Gregg)". This would help in my opinion, while still not diminishing anything else you've done in terms of format. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:57, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, I have made the change and actually think it works fine. - adamstom97 (talk) 20:56, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I readded some of the refs so what they were used for, would still source the info, and those section would not be unsourced. I think it's fine if you want to get other opinions on it. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:33, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Daredevil
I know its a take on Template:Episode list, but "Release date" also is also acceptable, and it works a lot better. Grapesoda22 (talk) 03:48, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

AKA Jessica Jones Release.
How is it unnecessary? It provides new information and adds to the discussion affirming a 2015 release date after the Netflix COO casts doubt on a release date for this year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.205.95 (talk) 03:53, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It is unnecessary because it is not anything new from what was announced in December. At that time, Marvel said it would be released in late 2015 (and still have), but Netflix has stated they are not beholden to that. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:57, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It is new information and Marvel's confirmation of a 2015 release date. The mere assumption that Netflix is not beholden to that means absolutely nothing in this conversation. Do you happen to work for Netflix? In fact, the statement by the COO doesn't mention anything about Netflix's duty to anyone in regards to a release date. It just states that it is hard to tell right now. Your point is totally invalid and irrelevant. The information provides a chronological order of facts for a pending release date. The information is important because it addresses the fact, as you point out, that Marvel continues to affirm a release date of 2015. As originally written, the paragraph does not convey that Marvel continues to affirm that. My revision corrects that. By the way, creating multiple user names sounds like a great idea. Thanks for that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.205.95 (talk) 04:42, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * First, you should bring your issue to the article talk, so more users can weigh in. Second, it is not new information. It is still the exact same that was announced in December. What you are doing is the exact same thing as saying, for example, "In December 2014, Marvel said Superhero TeamUp was coming out on August 6, 2015. In February 2015, Marvel once again said Superhero TeamUp was coming out on August 6, 2015. In March 2015, for a third time, Marvel once again reassured the world that Superhero TeamUp was releasing on August 6, 2015." My slight snarky-ness aside, the point is that it is not a confirmation or clarification, because the current expectation for the release is 2015. Netflix were the ones to put question to Marvel's announcement, and since Marvel has never changed their stance, that's what we go on until there is a change. So that is why all of your additions are unnecessary. And I don't know what you are referring to with your last sentence, but that is definitely not an idea you should entertain. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 05:01, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Avengers AoU GAN
Hey, so I wanted to give you a heads up that I know I will not be online right when this Good Topic retention ends. I'll be on a wiki break, so I probably shouldn't be the one to nominate the article. I'll be on the break starting this week, but I'll try my best to help clean it up some for the nomination (the Box office info especially) before I get off. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:24, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up, and I think the clarification on your talk is reasonable. I am happy to nominate or at least sort out anything raised by the reviewer. - adamstom97 (talk) 05:36, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

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List of X-Men Films Cast Members
Hello, Could you please explain your issues with how I had re-arranged the List of X-Men Films Cast Members? I did not alter the content of the page in any way, just the presentation, to something I thought was better.

My re-ordering was not random. Jean Grey, for instance, appears in more films than Storm (at least, as reflected by the list), so I moved Jean Grey above Storm, thinking that was better organization. Same with moving Beast above Colossus, and moving Psylocke up two spaces.

Have a nice day.

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Elektra and Daredevil Series
Hello! I was wondering why you keep removing Elodie Yung as Elektra from the pages related to the Daredevil series, despite a reference? I mean no insult, I am just genuinely confused. Thank you! Brerose| Talk 12:20, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * We don't know if she is starring or just a guest yet. When we do, we can add her properly. - adamstom97 (talk) 14:04, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Had it actually been announced for Jon Bernthal, though? Sources don't seem to list his proper role, either. Brerose| Talk 16:58, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The Elektra announcement stated that Bernthal would be starring, so we changed the pages to reflect that then. - adamstom97 (talk) 00:45, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

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Template:Star Wars
In response to your edit summary here, please link me to this discussion. I'd like to read it.  True CRaysball  | #RaysUp 03:55, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Template talk:Star Wars and Template talk:Star Wars are two of the discussions. There may be more that have been archived, and there was definitely a lot of discussing going on in edit summaries, so the situation is a bit more complicated than the discussions I have linked here may suggest. - adamstom97 (talk) 04:12, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

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Marvel One Shots
Strongman2014 (talk) 23:08, 21 August 2015 (UTC) I don't know how to source the actual film. Here it is at this link, can you do it? https://vimeo.com/45964463

Carter S2 DYK
FYI if you want to just watch it. I nominated it, and did the QPQ. Felt the hook was good, but might need your ideas if reviewers thinks otherwise. Feel free to add an ALT one if you want. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:45, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't have anything right now, but I will keep watch and try to come up with something if needed. - adamstom97 (talk) 03:35, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I think I'm good, but just if we did. Thanks. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:58, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Jessica Jones release date
I was meaning to post to you that I thought since we had not heard anything about a release date, Marvel may announce it at NY Comic Con. But I'm guess I'm wrong. Hoping still that they may screen a episode or two there. I'm going so that'd be great. Also, I didn't know if you noticed in the announce video, around 0:34, they have a very similar image that Daredevil had, with Cox and his reflection and the Avengers Tower in the back. Hopefully they will release a better image of that, because that might be a good addition to the List of TV series page. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:50, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I was in a class when I got your message, and hadn't seen the announcement yet, so this was a pleasant surprise. It seems likely to me that they will at least have a decent trailer, if not an episode or two, at NYCC given that they have finished filming and are releasing them all in a couple of months. I have seen the Tower in the announcement video, but I don't know if we will be able to get a clear look at it due to the flickery, stylish thing the video had going, it seemed to distort most of the images a bit. But I agree that it is similar to that motion poster we got from Daredevil. - adamstom97 (talk) 01:51, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * They haven't announced anything yet for NYCC, so hopefully soon. Last year they had the Daredevil panel, and then the SHIELD/Carter combo. This year, I'm feeling a long Netflix only one (since they have JJ ready to release and DD and LC filming) and maybe a similar SHILED/Carter one. I'm also wondering if this trailer was be similar to the opening sequences for the series at all. Don't know if you read any of Alias, but I got the reprints they did, and the part in the video where someone is thrown through the window is straight from Alias #1. I didn't know much about JJ beforehand, so reading Alias is giving me some good background and prep for the series, and may even enhance my watching of it. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 05:12, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I haven't read it, but I did think that the video seemed like it could be the opening sequence. If Avengers Tower was in the series' opening sequence, then it could end up in the series proper as well. - adamstom97 (talk) 06:57, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

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As I said, IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. It was discussed with the person who added it. Stop your edit warring. Links to draft articles are not allowed. I'm looking the other way if it is 6 months or less from filming. Having these notices for films scheduled 5 years out are not good. Bgwhite (talk) 07:08, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * That doesn't make any sense, and you are the one being unconstructive and disruptive. This is not just a general link to a draft article, which I agree is not allowed. This is a notice on a redirect article informing anyone who attempts to create said article properly that they should not do this, and should instead go to the draft article, as WP:NFF prohibits mainspace articles on films before filming has begun. By removing this notice, which average Wikipedia readers will not come across, you are making it more likely that one of those nuisance IPs or beginning editors will attempt to create an article for Black Panther (film) instead of going to the draft article where we are being constructive. - adamstom97 (talk) 09:13, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Some GA noms?
What are you thoughts on nominating Daredevil (season 1), Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Pilot (Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.) for GA? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:52, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I rescind Daredevil, as you already nominated it.... a while ago. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:55, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * So yeah, I already nominated Daredevil S1, and I would be happy to nominate Pilot and just see where we get with that. For SHIELD, I wonder if there will be issue with the fact that we can't guarantee stability since we have a new season about to start. - adamstom97 (talk) 22:35, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah I was thinking about stability for the main page, but given how long Daredevil has taken, maybe we nominate it, with the thought that it won't be for a while until it gets reviewed? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:37, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, I think we should nominate both the main page and the pilot page then, and see how we go. - adamstom97 (talk) 04:42, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Cool. I can nom the main if you'd like, if you want to take the Pilot, since you've done the majority of the work there. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:53, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. - adamstom97 (talk) 04:57, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks :) I wasn't sure if it was going to happen, but I'm glad that I got them banged out. - adamstom97 (talk) 19:03, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * On the topic of this, what is your thought for s3 articles? Do you want to try to create them each week after the ep airs, while (at least) reviews are popping up and "fresh". - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:45, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I am happy to try, I have just found writing the plot summaries and review section to be difficult and time consuming. I will definitely do my best to get the basics up each week though. - adamstom97 (talk) 05:24, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Just asking, because I'd be able to help more, if we want to tag team it. I can usually do good review write ups if I have the sources. But I generally stay away from plot too. Lol. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:50, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I think between us and whoever else wants to help out we should be able to keep on top of it. - adamstom97 (talk) 21:18, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Kudos for finishing all the ep pages! I'm hoping to make my next project to go through each and expand reception and/or other areas. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:24, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. We have plenty of reception and plot sections to do, and I'm sure that I have missed a lot of other good stuff as well, but at least all the pages exist now and anybody can improve them as needs be. - adamstom97 (talk) 18:52, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

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 * Thanks, I think I saw it mentioned somewhere else as well. - adamstom97 (talk) 03:13, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Also. 90% sure I'll be able to attend the Netflix panel tomorrow. Given who is supposed to be speaking, and the length of it, my bets are they will show some Daredevil S2 footage, and the whole first episode of Jessica Jones (just so you might have an idea what to expect tomorrow when the sources come out). They're strict about cell phones during the panel, but I'll do my best to remember anything important (like the writer of the episode), in case sources don't cover it. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:47, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
 * That would be great, enjoy it. - adamstom97 (talk) 04:08, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

So the episode was really good. Super dark. Like Daredevil dark up another level, and psychological. Ritter was super sassy and Tennant was super creepy and it was awesome. Also wanted to mention to you and maybe bring in Triiiple to this conversation, that I have a bunch of photos I took during the panel. However, they are mostly of the big video boards and/or far away (and just from an iPhone). Didn't know though if we wanted to use any I choose, or wait and see if any Creative Commons show up on Flicker. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:15, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Some photos that are specific to the series would always be good, it will just depend on how usable we feel either yours' or others are. And the episode sounds awesome, can't wait to see the series myself (it seems so close and yet so far away). - adamstom97 (talk) 02:19, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * The last 7ish minutes suck you into the episode so well, I was dying that I couldn't continue right on to episode 2! Oh. And the title "AKA Ladies Night" is so perfect. And yeah, I have a good amount of Jones and Daredevil images from the panel (and some of the Daredevil cast signing earlier in the day). FWIW (to give you an idea), the pictures from the screening are about the same framing as the top one of this article, but better quality. I will because they tend to have a good knack for images in the MCU articles, and their opinion on what I should do. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:17, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Favre, can you confirm the first name of Wil Traval's character? I was just wondering because it has been stated as Will by a couple of sites, but the ones talking about the Nuke adaptation say that Traval only gave the last name, and then described the original comic character which pretty clearly sounds like Nuke. Is it possible that he is actually called Frank Simpson and a mix-up was made with Traval's first name, or was it clearly stated that the name is Will? - adamstom97 (talk) 06:38, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I can confirm that he was introduced as Will Simpson. Having his first name not be Frank is probably part of the "reinvention" of the character, or perhaps he's Frank William Simpson. But definitely Will Simpson for now. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:09, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * That's awesome Favre, I would upload them to the commons and see if any are usable. Its sounds as if you may have a problem with De minimis though, but I would upload them anyway and let the community decide. We can still look for Flickr images, if we find some better quality but it's always better to have more than enough than too few. - TriiipleThreat (talk) 21:49, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I might have a bit of De minimis, but I don't believe so. Just to give you an idea of what I took, very similar content and framing for the image I linked to in the Techinsider article above, as well as File:Agents of SHIELD - SDCC 2013.jpg. Quality probably falls inbetween the two images, leaning towards the SHIELD one. I'm going to spend time tomorrow going through what I have and uploading stuff. I'll put them in a "Jessica Jones" cat on commons so you can see and give opinions. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:09, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

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Congrats on getting this passed. Sorry I didn't help more. Also, I guess moving forward, this is a good indication of some quote cut back we may need to do. While obviously this is just one reviewer and their perspective on the content, it wouldn't hurt. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:05, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
 * That's fine, I was happy to get this and the AoS Pilot through, and I can help out with some of the other pages as well if need be. I'm just glad that these are finally happening. Now, while I think there are some flaws with that copyvio detector and that being bound to it is probably not a good idea, not to mention that I disagree with the complete removal of all blockquotes, I do think that we (especially me) over rely on quoting, which is just poor writing really, so using that copyvio detector as a gauge to make sure we aren't doing it too much could be a good thing for us to improve our articles in general. - adamstom97 (talk) 21:08, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah that was basically my sentiment. Also agree with the disagreeing on complete removal of blockquotes. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:29, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

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The words I tried to add are as much as appropriate for wikipedia as all the other ones in that section. copypasta of text from an official source is actually more accurate than your own interpretation (I assume that's what you did when filling that section, since it differs from the source you've embedded). All I did was make the article more precise, in accordance with a legit source and without forgetting about the appropriate language. If you don't find the word "extraordinary" appropriate, then explain why. I'm trying to improve the article, and all you're doing is undoing my edits with no valid reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Icelily638 (talk • contribs) 12:45, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The reason we change the wording from the source rather than copy and paste it completely is to avoid copyright violations, and we don't use superfluous adjectives to avoid "Puffery". There is no need to describe the characters abilities, especially not in the very short series premise. Saying that his senses have been heightened is enough, and the more precise nature of them is explored in more appropriate places, such as the summary of the episode where he gets his abilities, or the biographical paragraph of the character's section at the list of characters page. That is the valid reason(s) for my reverts. - adamstom97 (talk) 12:57, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Arrow subsection proposal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Arrow_(TV_series)#New_subsection_for_Arrowverse Thought you might be interested in putting in your 2-cents worth, if not that's fine too. Thanks! LLArrow (talk) 03:55, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Star Wars: Where science meets imagination
Hi. I reverted you on that template because that is the name it goes by. If you check the other attractions on the template, they don't say "tours" instead of "star wars tours" or "weekends" instead of "star wars weekends". The same applies in the case of Star Wars: Where science meets imagination. Regards.--Nadirali نادرالی (talk) 22:20, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
 * In the template, we try to remove the redundant phrase 'Star Wars' wherever possible, which is why the films are listed as 'The Empire Strikes Back' and 'The Force Awakens', etc. Obviously, in some cases it wouldn't make sense to do it, such as writing 'Star Tours' as just 'Tours' or 'Star Wars Land' as just 'Land', but for 'Star Wars: Where Science Meets Imagination', it is clear that we can just take what follows the colon and accurately represent the page. Remember, we don't have to use the official or even common name in a navbox, just what makes it easiest to navigate, and removing 'Star Wars' as much as possible definitely makes it easier to navigate. Another example would be Template:Marvel Cinematic Universe, which removes the phrase 'Marvel's' wherever it can so as to not clutter up the links. - adamstom97 (talk) 22:31, 8 November 2015 (UTC)


 * That is different in the case of the films. And like you pointed out other 'tours' and 'land' make no sense. How does "Where Science Meets Imagination" imagination make any sense? It fits perfectly in the template without cluttering it.--Nadirali نادرالی (talk) 23:10, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
 * You are going to have to explain how this is different to the films and how "Where Science Meets Imagination" doesn't make sense, because both of those are news to me. Removing the "Star Wars: " from the title is what normal people will do when talking about this attraction anyway. Also, the point about not cluttering the template is that we have to be consistent, and if we consistently leave 'Star Wars' in almost every link, the template will be cluttered. If we consistently remove the unnecessary instances of 'Star Wars' then template will not be cluttered, or at least not by many redundant 'Star Wars''s. - adamstom97 (talk) 06:57, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

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Ant-Man plot
Isn't the logical place to re-explain Hopes resentment with the reveal? Besides we already established that they are estranged in the first paragraph. Why force it with it with information that has nothing to do with it?--TriiipleThreat (talk) 00:06, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I was looking at it from a different perspective, but I see what you mean now and have given the paragraph another copyedit. - adamstom97 (talk) 00:15, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry if I'm coming off as overly picky, I am actually open to change in the wording.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 00:59, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * No, it is all good, at least we are discussing it and making some progress. I do think that if we get through a few of these little quibbles then the article will be ready for a GA nom. - adamstom97 (talk) 01:02, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Doctor Strange (film)
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 * Thanks for the heads up. Since we have decided to just redirect the list of episodes page for now, I am just going to leave it. But I now know this for when we do make the page again in the future.


 * on the topic above, I just wanted to say that I agree with you that we should wait until a season 3 to split off the episodes page, I just saw that it had been made and was a mess so tried to tidy it all up a bit. - adamstom97 (talk) 21:40, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

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Please explain the revert on Iron Man (2008 film)
Would you mind to elaborate on why we don't direct readers to the film version of a character when they're linked from the film's page? Argento Surfer (talk) 21:42, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * We just don't. I don't have a problem with changing it to direct to the film versions, but for now that is not how we do it in the MCU articles and we want to be consistent across all of them. So, I suggest you bring this up at Talk:Marvel Cinematic Universe, and if the consensus there is to change to how you were doing it, then we will go through the many MCU articles (literally, there are more than 100 of them) and change them accordingly. But just changing one article amongst all of them, without discussion, is just a pain for all of us that regularly edit them. - adamstom97 (talk) 21:50, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Adam, while you are a great editor, that was a very poor explanation., there is no real point in linking as such for the following reason. All of these characters are based on the comics counterparts, even if they are not a direct adaptation of them. So, in benefiting the reader, it is helpful to link to the character articles, where the reader can then see about the character and further progress at their discretion to the film specific info. In some cases, it is necessary to direct link to the character's film section, but 99.9% of the time it is not. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:02, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I struggled a bit with that one. "We just don't" was obviously not the best thing to say. Anyway, Favre has given an actual reason for why we don't do it, but if you still want to change it then you should follow what I said above and start a discussion for the practice to be changed in all our articles. - adamstom97 (talk) 04:23, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
 * And your average readers knows these are adapted characters, not exact copies of the versions that appear on the comic pages. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:44, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks Argento Surfer (talk) 13:35, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

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