User talk:Adanielch

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Moving articles
Greetings. I see that you moved United States District Court for the Eastern District of Wisconsin to U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Wisconsin, and several other district court articles similarly. I'm not sure that's a good idea. We tend to write out the full name in articles on Wikipedia, and U.S. is rarely abbreviated in titles. Also, I thought I'd let you know about WikiProject United States courts and judges, a project where several of us collaborate on topics related to federal courts and federal judges. We could certainly use your experience and expertise. (By the way, you don't deal in international copyright law, do you?) All the best, – Quadell (talk) 20:26, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

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WP:Hornbook -- a new WP:Law task force for the J.D. curriculum
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Minnesota Meetup
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Unreferenced BLPs
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William Mitchell College of Law
May I ask why you removed the unreferenced section tag from the Alumni list at William Mitchell College of Law? The section does not list any sources, where WP:NLIST requires a source for each and every member in a list of people. Am I missing something? For now I restored the tag.--Muhandes (talk) 20:25, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

I removed it because it's not common practice to cite sources for each alumnus/a in articles on academic institutions. None of the other law schools in the state of Minnesota do it. Harvard, Yale, and Michigan Law Schools don't do it either. Even undergraduate institutions don't do it. Frankly, the policy is cumbersome in practice and should probably be changed. However, if you'd like to add the unreferenced section tag to all other academic alumni lists, be my guest--it might take you a while. Adanielch (talk) 18:22, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, many (I'd guess most) articles ignore this policy. But think about it, if you add someone to the list it claims something about him, and claims, especially about people, should be verifiable. I don't see it as my mission in life to tag every school ignoring this (like you said, it will take a while), but I add tags when I deal with the article due to another reason and I notice it (as you mentioned the other two law schools in Minnesota I tagged them as well). If you think the policy should be changed, go ahead and discuss it. --Muhandes (talk) 19:04, 16 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what to think now. I pointed you at the relevant policy, WP:NLIST, and let me quote from it: "every entry in any such list requires a reliable source attesting to the fact that the named person is a member of the listed group." It can't be clearer then this. Yet you choose to ignore it without even leaving an edit summary. What should I do, start escalating warnings? You seem like a grown up, this is not becoming. If you think a policy is inappropriate, you are free to argue it, on the policy's talk page. If you think it should not be applied to the specific article from some reason I cannot fathom, discuss it on the article's talk page. Lets not make this into a revert war. --Muhandes (talk) 12:41, 24 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I guess I'm confused too--you removed SEVERAL entries for notable alumni of the school a few months ago, and when I re-inserted SOME of them with independent source verification, you still aren't satisfied. I can see two concerns that you might have.  First, that somehow these people don't meet the criteria for notability.  But as we can both see from WP:NLIST, the test for determining notability is subjective, not objective.  (Regardless, all of the entries I reinserted satisfy the subjective test.)  Second, that not every other entry in the list was cited too.  Quite frankly, I didn't have the time at the exact moment of my editing to hunt down the sources I needed, and I assumed that because you left them on the page back in September, finding citations for them wasn't as urgent.  I'm not interested in a revert war either, so can you please explain the problem?  As far as I can see, my edits are valid.  Adanielch (talk) 17:32, 24 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I guess I wasn't clear. There are two concerns WP:NLIST raises. One is notability, and the second is sourcing. Notability is usually established by having an article. Though this is not strictly required, I don't have a better idea of how one could show sufficient coverage. I removed some members since they had no article - hence notability was not established. Generally I'd say write the article first, i.e. if the person is notable, write an article about them. If not, they don't need to be mentioned just by association. But I'm not going to argue about notability. The second requirement is much simpler, and as three months have passed and sources were not added, all members without a source should/could be removed. I did not do this as I thought you were in the process of adding sources. So I was surprised you removed the tag without resolving the issue. So if we are in agreement, I will remove all members of the list without an article or a source to the talk page. If you think some of the ones without an article but with a source are especially notable and just don't have an article from some reason, say so in the talk page and add them back. Is that agreeable? --Muhandes (talk) 15:56, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

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