User talk:Admiral Norton/Archive 1

Aržano
(copied to discussion page) Because I was wikifying a tiny Croatia article stub in the "needs Wikifying" bin and I did not want it to be an orphan article. I know nothing about Croatia and will avoid wikifying Croatian articles in the future. Feel free to orphan it so it can eventually be deleted. I have no investment in the article. No good deed goes unpunished! Regards, -- Mattisse 13:05, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I did put it in Split. One link does not remove the orphan status from an article. I know nothing about Croatia. So I am going to forget about it and let fate take its course. -- Mattisse  14:41, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Abuse report
Hi. I've rejected Abuse reports/205.127.86.4 because the account has only been blocked one time (in March '07). Not enough recent disruption nor blocks to for an investigation at this time. Thanks, Rjd0060 (talk) 00:17, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Tunnels in Zagreb
Hi, you claim that "tunnels are in city plan". I've just looked last revision (August 2007) at, and there are no tunnels. Idea is attributed to Mr. Dadic, from traffic institute, and is w/o any real foundations. Additionally, if something is in plan, it is not planned to be built, but only there's possibility to be built and that space is reserved (cf. Aquapark in New Zagreb, 1st Parallel Avenue in New Zagreb, Northern Tangent in Podsljeme etc). We can put then all of these stuffs in article... Plantago (talk) 09:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Graz / etymology
Hello! Could you explain this edit? Why is that statement 'pure nonsense'? Regards, --Missmarple (talk) 19:41, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Protecting Zagreb
Since you declined the request for semi-protection of Zagreb, could you please offer me some other option because I'm not really familiar with an issue like an edit war with IP. Is there something I can do to settle it? Admiral Norton (talk) 20:59, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The page can be fully protected (but not semi-protected). Please see WP:PROT for further details. If you wish to request this, please list it at WP:RFPP (and not on my talk page). Stifle (talk) 09:28, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

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Re.Proposal to amend WP:UE
Hello Admiral Norton and thank you for requesting my feedback. Your proposal looks good, but I found the items in point no. 2 rather ambiguous. I mean, I had to read them a few times to understand whether they are stating what should be done or what should not be done when it comes to digraphs, trigraphs, etc.. Perhaps some rephrasing could help. Still, well done. :-) Regards, Hús  ö  nd  00:04, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I tried to make it easier to read. Sadly, I don't know how to put this into prose while retaining the legibility. Maybe you could try to modify something you think is badly written. This proposal is still far from the UE talk page. Admiral Norton (talk) 10:30, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, did You see this? --  Bojan  18:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That strikes out the non-Latin part. I didn't intend to change it anyway, though. Thanks for pointing me to this page. Admiral Norton (talk) 18:30, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

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WP:UE
I must say that by now I feel more than a bit despondent about it; since you've been involved in it too, I guess there's no need to explain why. :) For a recent example see Talk:Parni Valjak. GregorB (talk) 08:42, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Bauhaus disambiguation
Hi there, I had a look at the disambiguation you have created and renamed the "Staatliches Bauhaus" "Bauhaus (design)" this is more appropriate as Bauhaus is a "approach to design" or "school of design", while "Staatliches Bauhaus" is the actual name of the school out of which this approach emerged. I am German, and got my Bauhaus taught in school, and honestly, I never heard anybody refer to "Bauhaus" as "Staatliches Bauhaus". This is apparent in the fact that someone added "Bauhaus" as in the approach to design to the disambiguation page and apparently thought that Wikipedia has no article on "Bauhaus".... in any case.... Could you help with the disambiguation of all the articles that link to "Bauhaus", most of them refer to "Bauhaus (design)" and there is quite a number of them... can we do this automatically, as it will take a long time to do this manually??? --SasiSasi (talk) 18:58, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It is taken care of now. Bauhaus (design) was moved back to Bauhaus, since there is no way to automatically change links without programming a bot and that would be a huge hassle. Admiral Norton (talk) 21:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

it was a good effort though....x --SasiSasi (talk) 15:24, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Indiana's DOB=
I see that there has been an edit with a citation based upon a user's comment on an amazon.com page. However, I am not sure whether that would be this musician's true age. There have also been comments that she is in her 40's on other websites. There are pages that state that she is in her twenties as well. I feel that at this point in our research, we have no idea how old this musician is. Does anybody have a verifiable DOB for this musician? Do you have contact details as to ask for a proper D.O.B from the person? Since we don't seem to be capable of a reliable source, I wonder if we could perhaps ask? Littleredm&amp;m (talk) 21:47, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I have found August 12, 1971 on what seems to be one of Indiana's Internet profiles, but I'll have to get a proper source on that matter before I put it in the article. Wikieditor2008 has apparently found a source for her being 36-37 years old by now, but I'm afraid I had no luck finding something more precise. I don't know about asking Gregg in person; I hadn't thought of it and I don't see any rules pertaining to it. It seems to be some sort of a grey area. Admiral Norton (talk) 10:04, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

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Glagoljica
It's highly rated by Bulgarian and Ukrainian Wikiproject Talk:Glagolitic alphabet. But more than 80% of Glagolithic inscriptions were found in the territory of Croatia and written in Chakavian Croatian. At least, Wikiproject:Croatia deserves to be there, don't you think? Zenanarh (talk) 13:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Of course, glagoljica was a writing system for the Croatian language for a long time. I added it as a high-importance article. BTW thank you for your support in my UE proposal. Admiral Norton (talk) 14:04, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Re
As I explained to Users before, I had the map on my computer for years and, as I recall, I got it from an old friend's blog. I believe he made it. Sorry I couldn't help, good luck :( -- DIREKTOR  ( TALK ) 16:46, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

"User:Decensi"
Small mistake. He is not edit warring. He is banned User:PaxEquilibrium and I am waiting block of his puppet number 30 !!--Rjecina (talk) 18:28, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Edit summary counter
The Template:User ESU uses a defunct, probably your edit summary counter (judging from the username ~aoleg). I was thinking to implement the Mathbot's counter, but it doesn't operate by appending something of the like of " ". Could you enable it as an option at least or resurrect the old counter so that the template can work properly? Admiral Norton (talk) 18:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry for taking that long to respond, I've not been that active on Wikipedia lately. That link was dead indeed, since I changed jobs and my old account expired. I fixed the ESU template to point to the new link. Thanks for your note! Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:40, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of January 5, 2002
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indiana gregg
I've just come back from holiday and noticed that you have left a message on my talk page about me being a sockpuppet. I have just looked at the indiana gregg discussion page and noticed that there has been a lot of activity and also that the page has been locked. I can assure you that I am not any sockpuppet. It does seem strange that some of the other individuals that you accused of sockpuppeting were also doing devious things on the Indiana Gregg page. One was warned by phil sandifer. Another was plotting to publish her divorce, one has a german name 'wettendass' and another one has a scottish name (three of the editors used 2008 following their username). I don't know why you accused me, but, I guess I passed the wiki test. At any rate, I'm not anyone else other than me, so, I hope you don't accuse me in the future. Best, amy:) the carribeanqueen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carribeanqueen (talk • contribs) 21:43, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * From the way Suspected sock puppets/Carribeanqueen looks like, you have been cleared of all the suspicion (actually, it seems that a checkuser hasn't been done on you yet, but I have neither the time, nor the will to act mala fide and push it to the end). As a small friendly notice, you don't have to press Enter every time you reach the end of the line, the edit box uses word wrap feature; and please post new messages on the bottom of the talk page using the "new section" button near the "edit this page" button. Admiral Norton (talk) 21:52, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

RE: User:Keegan/On administrators
Hi there, thanks for reading the essay and noticing. I haven't really updated the page since the end of Nov. '07, and since then SUL has been implemented for all users and the "rollbacker", "IP-block-exempt", and "account creator" rights groups have been established. I need to update the page, I'll get to it eventually. Happy editing to you! Keegan talk 19:43, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Slavonska-Držićeva sa sjevera.jpg
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 * Thanks for the heads up. I forgot to add licensing information. Admiral Norton (talk) 14:21, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for sorting that out. J Milburn (talk) 14:26, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Following English language sources
Hi. I noticed the question you posted to me here. I would encourage you to check out this page, which is still a work in progress. Those are only the discussions that I've personally closed, but if you examine the history at Requested moves, I think you'll find that we've been very consistent for years about following English language press. Please feel free to reply, here or at my talk page. I'm in the middle of a long road trip just now, but I'll be able to log in occasionally and check on things. -GTBacchus(talk) 20:47, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


 * That is a long list, but I didn't see any Serbian names or places there. Novak Djokovic is the only page that retains a title spelled in another way than the official Serbian spelling (barring all the expatriates, exiled, Serbian-Americans and alike). Admiral Norton (talk) 21:00, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, is there any reason that Serbian names should be treated differently than names in any other language? -GTBacchus(talk) 15:12, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Frankly, I don't see any specific lack of diacritics in other language articles. Serbia is at least consistent in this matter and I have seen more such consensuses, like the use in articles about people from Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Hungary, etc. to name a few. Admiral Norton (talk) 21:33, 17 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, Wikipedia is a big place. My experience, working in move requests, has been that there is a consistent consensus to follow English language sources. As for pages that don't pass through WP:RM, I can't say. I would like to see what the community thinks if the question is raised explicitly, rather than relying on anecdotal evidence, whether it be yours or mine. -GTBacchus(talk) 13:23, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

ACC Tool
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 * Yes, I made the request. Thanks for the notification. Admiral Norton (talk) 21:09, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
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 * Thanks for the note. Admiral Norton (talk) 22:16, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Account creator granted
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 * Thanks, PeterSymonds. Admiral Norton (talk) 16:34, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: GTA merge
It's on WT:VG. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 21:05, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK filing order
This is a really trivial request, but I've just corrected one entry after you moved it for the second time, so I thought I'd better say something! Articles nominated for DYK should be filed under the day they were created (or expanded, etc - the day they qualified, basically) per the instructions here, rather than the day they were nominated... Thanks. Shimgray | talk | 14:37, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for notice. I didn't know that before. Admiral Norton (talk) 14:39, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem - it's because the important consideration is the age of the article, so we can handle them in the right order and ensure we get as many as possible before they're "too old" to use. Most get nominated when created, which is simple enough, but a few aren't listed until a few days later and so it can get confusing otherwise... Shimgray | talk | 14:43, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I know, I currently have my first DYK nomination listed and the deadline is today. Sadly, I haven't got any response yet. Admiral Norton (talk) 14:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Reply to e-mail
Thanks for the reply. As I said above to the Welsh translator, I need the Wikimedia Foundation's donation form translated into Bosnian (Bosanski) and Croatian (Hrvatski). The existing translations (Bosanski, Hrvatski) haven't been updated since 2005. If you would be willing to help, the source and workspace can be found on Meta-Wiki: Donate/bs and Donate/hr. Thanks again for your help with this, I appreciate it.  Cbrown1023   talk   00:03, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * As I don't have the time for it right now, I'll do it tomorrow. Admiral Norton (talk) 00:06, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I have translated the Croatian version. I'll dive into the Bosnian one after the lunch. Admiral Norton (talk) 11:59, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow, you guys all translate so quickly! :-) Thanks. :-)  Cbrown1023    talk   13:15, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

ADCO
Hi Admiral Norton. Much as I'd like to help out, I'm expecting my second child next week - so my WP time is likely to become rather limited :) I think you're really rather well on your way anyway, but if you want some "edges smoothed" you might need to get hold of someone else due to my likely low levels of activity on the near future. Pedro : Chat  20:47, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, like Pedro, my WP time is getting a bit limited (and I'm going to my new school in a few weeks, so I have no idea what my schedule will look like), so I don't know whether I can devote enough time to a second coachee. Cheers, sephiroth bcr  ( converse ) 21:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Rio de Janeiro
About this  edit-comment of yours: Some seem to see the glas always half full (never half empty) even when it's broken. Amazing, somehow...! Regards, --Floridianed (talk) 23:21, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Admin coaching
I'd be more than willing to coach you. However, I'd like to wait about a week or two because I have another RFA coming up and I have some other requests that I need to handle. In the meantime though, I'd like you to carefully look over Administrators' reading list and make sure that you know how Wikipedia works and what it's all about.  bibliomaniac 1  5  22:41, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * All right, I've created your admin coaching page at User:Admiral Norton/Admin coaching. Please answer the questions so that we may continue. My goal in admin coaching is to make sure that you know about administrative policy and that you know how to apply them, and also to boost your confidence in yourself. If I forget to update, please let me know. Remember that I'm not your boss, I'm just someone who wants to see you improve as an editor. Therefore, ask me questions about anything you would like another perspective on or don't understand, and treat me just like another editor.  bibliomaniac 1  5  00:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

my edit
I made an edit on the Indiana Gregg page because it looks like an advertisement for a songwriting competition and the wording about people "challenged in maths" sounds derogatory. I did not see citations from any source that shows the she paid for the entries either. So, I think that you will find that my edit makes sense. Also, I did not see any discussion about this in the discussion page. I don't know who carribeanqueen is so I don't know why you would leave me a message about that. Indiana was recently in my local paper last week and I think that the section of the page about the song contest looks like straight forward advertising which wikipedia doesn't allow.Marieanne42 (talk) 15:24, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

hi again, yes, that sounds normal to me. I think that the part about the number of entries is all right. I just think that listing the entry fees sounded like the UK songwriting contest was trying to advertise on the pages of their artists, that's all. I have added a few things to the article and was going to try to read about how to make the 'ref' work. I was going to try to make a page about some other bands here in Scotland that don't seem to have wikipedia pages yet. I was wondering, do I just start a page, or do I need to ask permission?Marieanne42 (talk) 20:09, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

hey thanks. That's cool then. If I start an article and there isn't much information on the band yet except for what is on their myspace page or website, do I ask the band for more information. (For example, I don't know where all the member's come from. I know two of them are from Fife though but the band plays mostly in Edinburgh. Should I just create a small article anyway based on what they have on their web pages? I'd like to start it in the next couple of days once I get a better idea of how music articles go. It would be great if you have a look at it afterwards maybe? Thanks againMarieanne42 (talk) 11:41, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Translation
Hi. As I can see you are Cro-Eng translator. Can I ask you to translate the history sections of the Zadar article in hr.wiki to English (sections: Rani srenji vijek, Zadar u Srednjem vijeku, od 15. do 18. st.). You can send it to my talk page, or E-mail from my preferences. I'd like to use it here, enriched with some additional data, but I need a good quality translation, I'm not 100% sure in my English. Thanks. Zenanarh (talk) 07:06, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow, so quickly. Thank you very much. I'd burn my brain to accomplish much poorer result, it's not hard to chat in English, but translation is something else. Now I'll definitely use your translating service in the future ;) Don't worry :)
 * Zadrans, I don't know, Aradic-es used Zadrans and Splitians for making a joke about Split and Zadar here, Ivan Štambuk is a linguist, maybe he knows. I'll ask him. Maybe Zadar people? Or Zadar citizens? If not Zadrans... Zadrans sounds good to me... Zenanarh (talk) 18:31, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Madijevci should be Madi's I think since their surname was Madi. Zenanarh (talk) 18:38, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well it seems there aro no Zagrebcans, Splitians or Zadrans . Zenanarh (talk) 09:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Dissapointed? Me too. At least we will not have Splitters :) Zenanarh (talk) 15:46, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Šćitarjevo
Na hr.wiki smo o tome razgovarali. Dosta sam se bavio naseljima, općinama i gradovima u Hrvatskoj. Na hr.wiki smo se dogovorili da se članci imenuju prema nazivu iz Zakona. Cijeli Zakon je ovdje. Pozdrav --Suradnik13 (talk) 06:56, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Poslao sam ti e-mail. --Suradnik13 (talk) 16:29, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Ljubljana entry
Hi, can you please explain why I cannot add link to VisitLjubljana.si website, as it is official site of the Municipality of Ljubljana/Section for tourism?

--Urbanapodgana (talk) 17:07, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Just so you know...
...CSD G4 only applies when a page has been deleted through WP:AFD or a similar process (NOT PROD or speedy deletions), and then only when the article hasn't improved upon the reasons it was deleted for in the first place. Just letting you know, since you seemed to be a little confused about it at Veprim bakija. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 23:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

The Phantom Band
Hi, I created a page for a band called The Phantom Band who are from Glasgow. They have been playing a lot of festivals and gigs and are releasing an album in January. I only put a little information about them because I need to research some of the articles about them to add more. But, it looks like wikipedia has put it up for 'speedy deletion'. Do you know what I should do to make an article not be considered for speedy deletion? thanks Marieanne42 (talk) 11:30, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I think I didn't give enough information in the stub I made, so, I'll try it again. Thanks for answering me so quickly too! Marieanne42 (talk) 20:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Hrvatski izgovori
Dobro, obavijestit ću te ako ih napravim, ali ako govoriš hrvatski zašto ih sam ne pokušaš napraviti? F.G. (talk) 07:11, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Hvala!
Thank you for the shiny hieroglyphs of Rosetta, er, I mean the star. :) De728631 (talk) 23:11, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

POK
Pakistan-administered Kashmir this article includes all administered regions in pakistan why wont the indian editors look at it ? 86.163.153.184 (talk) 18:49, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Ethnic group articles
Hi. In light of the failure to reach consensus at Articles for deletion/Afghan British‎ I've suggested that there be a discussion of the various issues raised, here. Your input would be appreciated. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:53, 13 September 2008 (UTC)