User talk:Adriansbradshaw

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In view of your addition to Ribbleton railway station, I think I'll reword the reference to Gamull/Gammer Lane. Unfortunately I don't have a copy of Biddle's book. Do you have the page number where he mentions this (to put in the reference)?

If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place  on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! &mdash;Dr Greg 12:07, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome
I'll read up and learn what I can and contribute where possible. I'm a bit of a railway buff and currently editing two railway websites including the one I have added the link for. Preston Station : Past & Present I live in preston... and... Blackrod Station : Past & Present The station near where I grew up

I agree that an edit is required to the Ribbleton Station page - preferably retaining a reference to the curious name discrepancy.

I am in contact with Gordon Suggitt with whom I have exchanged many emails over the last year or two. - Nice chap! I quizzed him on this yesterday and he confirms that "Gammer Lane" is correct. He also supplies two references which pretty much nails it as being correct. His comments are copied below:

''The reference to Gammer Lane came originally from Norman Parker's 'The Preston and Longridge Railway' published by Oakwood Press in 1970, but I've checked it in 'The Directory of Railway Stations' by R.V.J. Butt (1995) which is the current 'bible' for such info.This confirms that 'Gammull Lane' was never used for the station name, possibly as Gordon Biddle suggests due to officials misunderstanding the locals. Apparently this sort of thing is common with 19th century census details as well.''

I do have a copy of Gordon Biddle's book, although not with me at the moment. I'll look up the reference this evening and amend the reference accordingly.

I plan to go and take a photo of the Ribbleton Station building for my website. Would it be a good idea to add it to the Wiki page too? If so, how do I go about it? Perhaps I'll find the answer to that in the links you provided.

Lastly, I hope that I am communicating in the approved way here. I looked for a reply button...

Regards Adriansbradshaw 09:08, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


 * You have indeed replied in the correct way. I looked at your Preston Station website yesterday and found it very interesting. However, it should really be linked to Wikipedia articles under an  heading. The References heading is for (preferably published) sources that were used in the compilation of the article.


 * As for image uploading, that is something I have not yet done myself, so I don't know all the details. You can start by looking at Uploading images. You have to agree to certain copyright conditions, by adding an appropriate licence, otherwise your image will be deleted. Once you have successfully uploaded an image, and applied the correct licence to it, you can look at the Grimsargh railway station article to see how to add it to an article. --Dr Greg 12:02, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

So how would you like to proceed with the Ribbleton article? Since it is largely your work, would you like to re-word it and include the additional references provided by Gordon Suggitt? If so, will you move my link to  ? If not, I'll do it. Presumably though it's best to make all these changes in one hit to avoid flooding the history log with entries (I've already done enough of that).

I'll add the Biddle page number here this evening. Adriansbradshaw 13:03, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I won't have time to do any work on this over the weekend, so you can have a go yourself if you like. But it is best to make reference only to published sources (e.g. Biddle, Parker, or Butt, ideally with a page number) &mdash; your private letter from Suggitt doesn't count, I'm afraid (but is nevertheless very useful for us editors to know). Or leave it to me for Monday, I don't mind. There's no hurry. --Dr Greg 17:13, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Biddle reference The Railways Around Preston A Historical Review has no page numbers. The comment is in chapter 3: The Longridge Branch but is actually the caption for the photo of the station, and is numbered 43. It reads :

'' 43. Preston-Ribbleton, June 1952. Gammull Lane station, opened in 1854, spelt Gammer Lane - local pronunciation taken literally? - and renamed Fulwood in 1856. It was finally renamed Ribbleton in 1900.''

Since I'm not sure how to notate the reference without a page number, I'll leave it to you if that's OK. Adriansbradshaw 17:23, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

I just noticed that you updated the Ribbleton Station page - that covers it nicely.

When I was there last week, I spoke to a local who said the local yobs are making the owner's life a misery with vandalism and break-ins. That's why he now has two large German Shepherds and plastic over the windows. It's a shame really, because in another location it could make a nice home. Aparrently, the inside is pretty much un-touched from its railway days. Adriansbradshaw 16:09, 1 August 2007 (UTC)