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Speedy deletion nomination of Association of European Businesses


A tag has been placed on Association of European Businesses requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person, a group of people, an individual animal, an organization (band, club, company, etc.), web content, or an organized event, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Thank you. Heat Is  Cool  14:51, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Help request
I've tried uploading an article about the association of european businesses multiple of times and each time it has been deleted. So I would like to know the reason to why it is not "significant enough" to be on wikipedia, even though it is a real organization that helps ameliorate the economic state between the Russian Federation and the EU?


 * I have moved this down, because new conversations go at the bottom of talk pages, to keep the conversation in order.


 * The first thing to explain is that Wikipedia is not a place for organizations, or people, to tell the world about themselves, or post copies of their own promotional literature. There are sites like Facebook for that, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, which is quite different.


 * The article has only been deleted twice, as far as I can see - the first time because you yourself put a db-author deletion request on it, and the second time because it was a copyright violation, copied from the organization's website. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copied text without a formal copyright release, as described in WP:Donating copyrighted materials, but this text would in any case be unacceptable because, as I explained above, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a free notice-board for organizations to tell the world about themselves.


 * The second thing to explain is that Wikipedia is selective about subjects for articles. It does not expect to have articles about every organization that exists. The test for inclusion is called Notability and is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by references showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Youtube, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. Interviews with the organization's staff do not count for much towards notability because they are still the organization talking about itself. The test is, have people not connected with the subject thought it significant enough to write substantial comment about? See also Notability (summary). This test applies to non-commercial and "good causes" too - see Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause.


 * Your username indicates a connection with the organization. That means that you have, from Wikipedia's point of view, a Conflict of interest and should read that page and the Plain and simple conflict of interest guide. COI editing is discouraged, because it is hard for people to maintain the necessary neutral point of view about a subject they are involved with, and because they think of what the subject wants to say, not what a general encyclopedia reader might want to know; but it is possible, if you are careful.


 * If you want to proceed,


 * Read WP:Your first article.
 * Collect independent references such as press coverage (independent, not press releases). Independent references are necessary to show notability, but also so that an article can be written which is more than just the organization's story about itself.
 * Use WP:Articles for creation to help you make a draft, which you can submit for review by an uninvolved user, who will either accept it or give you feedback.
 * When writing, concentrate less on the organization's vision, mission statement etc and more on what it has actually achieved. You can link to the website so that the interested reader can find out more.
 * Take great care not to sound promotional. This is the big difficulty for COI editors, who are often used to writing PR-speak. Avoid "peacock terms" like "unique".
 * Write in your own words, not copying from the website. There is good advice for people in your situation at User:Uncle G/On notability
 * "'When writing about subjects that are close to you, don't use your own personal knowledge of the subject, and don't cite yourself, your web site, or the subject's web site. Instead, use what is written about the subject by other people, independently, as your sources. Cite those sources in your very first edit.  If you don't have such sources, don't write.'"
 * I am sorry if this is all more difficult than you expected, but if Wikipedia allowed people simply to post copies of their websites, it would be no more useful than Facebook as a work of reference.


 * Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:55, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Because we have a policy against usernames which give the impression that the account represents a group, organization or website, I have blocked this account; please take a moment to create a new account with a username that represents only yourself as an individual and which complies with our username policy or request a change of username. You should also read our conflict of interest guideline and be aware that promotional editing is not acceptable regardless of the username you choose. If your username does not represent a group, organization or website, you may appeal this username block by adding the text at the bottom of your talk page. You may simply create a new account, but you may prefer to change your username to one that complies with our username policy, so that your past contributions are associated with your new username. If you would prefer to change your username, you may appeal this username block by adding the text at the bottom of your talk page. Thank you. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 14:07, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Help request
So according to the post above, if I manage to find any other sources, write a whole new text without copying from press releases/ the official website, and also show the significance of the post, there's a chance the article won't be deleted again? The question is how do I show the significance exactly? Like do I have to explicitly state that the organisation is significant because of...?
 * See WP:CORPDEPTH (and that entire page). You have to show that the group has received independent coverage by reliable sources. That's all there is to it. It's not enough to have a press release by the group itself. If it's been written about by independent sources, there's a chance it could survive a deletion discussion. If not, it won't. Simple as. Katietalk 15:28, 19 July 2016 (UTC)