User talk:AeternusDoleo

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Discretionary sanctions alert for articles and content relating to post-1932 American politics and articles
Doug Weller talk 09:14, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

If you are going to make claims that the SPLC and the Antifa movement are related
I suggest you edit their pages first. But as you won't find reliable sources, I don' think you'll get far so I suggest you just avoid the topic. Doug Weller talk 09:16, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Help me!
Hey Doug,

I hope this is in the right location, I'm still figuring out this interface.

I've been using Wikipedia as an information source for quite a while now, and so far haven't had much to contribute, but the MGTOW topic does seem to have a bit of misinformation, and being personally involved in there, I figured I could contribute a bit by fixing that. There are some blatant falsehoods on there (for example, the reference to "Sandman being the leader of MGTOW" when the whole group dynamic around the life philosophy is unorganized, thus has no structure, Sandman's just a prolific contributer of MGTOW content on youtube). But getting called "male supremacists" by an organization like SPLC just rubbed me the wrong way. It's just blatant slander. At most, MGTOW are isolationists, but even that only applies to a subset.

I'm at work now but will dig up some info (with sources) on the history and try to fix the other references.

As for SPLC being associated with Antifa (through BAMN), see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peGIc6AQHa8 - it's in there, starting 4:45 in. Since I don't care to start a political right-vs-left mess on Wikipedia of all places, I figured just axing the references by them on the MGTOW topic would suffice.

AeternusDoleo (talk) 12:05, 11 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Please re-read the article; it doesn't say Sandman leads anything. Please also take a look at WP:Identifying reliable sources. The Southern Poverty Law Center is a reliable source; that's kind of a perennial issue at WP:RS/N; see for example this discussion which not only summarizes previous discussions but also various scholars' and outside authorities' opinions on the reliability of the SPLC. Videos on YouTube, however, generally are not reliable sources. In general, an article's talk page (here Talk:Men Going Their Own Way) is the appropriate place to discuss improvements of an article. Huon (talk) 14:18, 11 December 2018 (UTC)