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I was given a prescription for cylert by my Neurologist after having been diagnosed with Lupus and early stage MS, fifteen years ago. It was the greatest life changing drug I ever took. It allowed me to live my life productively, raise my family and feel well. My brain worked easily I felt human again. When they removed it off the market it was terrible as I have never had anything to replace it. My Lupus has taken over my body and my brain, my short term memory is nearly gone every day is a struggle. If there was any country I could legally get this drug I would go there. I miss my life when I didn't have to struggle to think and feel well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheertyme2002 (talk • contribs) 18:05, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

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More translation needed
Welcome, and thank you for contributing the page Drugs controlled by the German Betäubungsmittelgesetz to Wikipedia. While you have added the page to the English version of Wikipedia, the article is not in English. We invite you to translate it into English. It has been listed at Pages Needing Translation, but if it is not translated within two weeks, the article will be listed for deletion. Thank you. Some of the sections are still not translated. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 22:47, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Not sure if I feel comfortable to fully correct translate legal texts, maybe I'll just get rid of the german parts (list itself is english as you can see). Aethyta (talk) 22:55, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

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PX-2
Hey mate. Pretty sure Caymanchem have got it wrong again and this compound is indeed the (S) enantiomer like the others, not (R). The Pfizer patents are quite clear that it is the (S) enantiomer which is the active one throughout this series, and both the Banister et al and Shevyrin et al papers confirm the illicitly sold compounds as being (S) enantiomer in all cases where the stereochemistry has been resolved, likely due to the fact that the amino acid precursors are available in pure (S) and (R) forms but are not generally available as a racemic mix. Meodipt (talk) 01:07, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * You're probably right. That one is courtesy of BaeyerDrewson though! Aethyta (talk) 01:09, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Oops sorry about that, didn't notice all three of us were editing at the same time again! I'll post that on his talk page instead then... Meodipt (talk) 01:11, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

5F-PCN
Hey mate, think this is your page this time...I believe that structure is incorrect, have seen two structures sold as "5F-PCN" which were respectively 7-aza-AM-2201 and 6-aza-5F-NNE1, but you have drawn 5-aza-5F-NNE1 instead. Not sure if there is a reliable source for any of these but presumably the one that got banned in Sweden is the most notable for Wikipedia purposes. Meodipt (talk) 22:33, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * http://www.riksdagen.se/sv/Dokument-Lagar/Lagar/Svenskforfattningssamling/Forordning-199958-om-forbud_sfs-1999-58/ - 1-(5-fluoropentyl)-N-(naftalen-1-yl)-1H-pyrrolo[3,2-c] pyridin-3-karboxamid - 1-(5-fluoropentyl)-N-(naphthalene-1-yl)-1H-pyrrolo[3,2-c] pyridin-3-carboxamide - should be correct Aethyta (talk) 22:37, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Interesting. I wonder if all three compounds have been sold under this name then? Though it would not be unusual for these RC vendors to not even be quite sure themselves what they are selling! Meodipt (talk) 22:41, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Copying within Wikipedia
Hello, Aethyta. Thank you for explaining the issue at Talk:2,5-Dimethoxy-4-isopropylamphetamine, which helped quite a lot in resolving the copyright problem. :) Sometimes external mirrors help us find content that is moved around on our project itself without meeting the legal requirements. Wikipedia articles are not themselves public domain, and while you are very welcome to reuse content, the licensing conditions must be met. When moving content from page to page within Wikipedia, these legally mandated requirements can be met by adding a link to the source article in your edit summary when copying and a note on the talk page of both articles to clearly mark what has occurred. See Copying within Wikipedia. I have fixed the issue with this article, but if you have moved or duplicated content before, please be sure it is properly attributed and please do follow the steps in future when moving content around. Thanks. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:06, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Most of my newly created stubs are substances with very little information on them, so they're sometimes pretty much..nearly identical as it's all we know about said substances, especially when they're also extremely close in terms of structure and pharmacology, such as CUMYL-PINACA and 5F-CUMYL-PINACA. Thanks for the heads-up though Moonriddengirl, I'll give it a read. Aethyta (talk) 16:03, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

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Articles about minor recreational drugs
I just wanted to continue the conversation from Talk:Nifoxipam, but a bit more generally so it's probably not appropriate at that talk page. First of all, I want to let you know that I appreciate all the work you have done to improve Wikipedia's articles about chemicals. However, personally I think quite a few of the recent articles you have created about minor recreational drugs would work better if the information were consolidated in a table or list much like list of benzodiazepines or list of cocaine analogues, rather than existing as separate articles. The information is worth having on Wikipedia, but for most of them I doubt that there will ever be much information available to expand them beyond their current status as stubs. These designer drugs often come and go very quickly, being identified in one temporary blend of synthetic cannabis, for example, and then never showing up again. I think if we put all the information together in one place, it would make it more accessible to Wikipedia's readers rather than having it scattered among multiple articles. What do you think? -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:31, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I think that each substance that has appeared on the grey market and has some information on it deserves its own page. When new information comes up, editors are more likely to add it to the article than create it from scratch - that's what stubs are for, in my opinion. It's hard/impossible to do that in a list. And let's be realistic for a second, not many readers of wikipedia even heard of these "minor recreational drugs", but those who do would certainly prefer as much information as possible, which is, once again, hard to realize in a list. The articles I create are mostly for substances that have been sold on the grey market and were not just created for the purpose of biinding studies like in the case of List of cocaine analogues; I agree it wouldn't make much sense to create separate pages for each of Singh's hundreds of substances, but this is definitely not the case in my "work" here. -- Aethyta (talk) 19:10, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

1P-LSD
Hi, I deleted 1P-LSD. This was because not much time has passed since the previous deletion discussion and because the referencing for the article hadn't significantly improved. I suggest you wait until there are more reliable sources. Thanks, --Tóraí (talk) 20:21, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
 * There were 3 currently. How many exactly do you require? -- Aethyta (talk) 20:49, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


 * After the original AFD, someone asked me to restore it as a draft. It is located at Draft:1P-LSD.  Please feel free to work on it there. If the article can be brought up to a state where it deals with issues that led to the decision to delete it, then it can be moved to article space or submitted through the WP:AFC process.  I merged the two versions of the article into the one draft, so you can find your edits by viewing the history.   -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:14, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't it make more sense to use my latest version though? The original draft has absolutely nothing. -- Aethyta (talk) 14:54, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * You can find your version in the history and retrieve the text. Please feel to incorporate text from your version into the current version or to simply replace it all with your version, as you see fit.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:50, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of 5F-EMB
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Fluoxymesterone
I just wanted to let you know that I have removed the synthesis from this page, but not for the reason that the IP before me did. The text was plagiarized from a book and therefore not permissible on Wikipedia. It was added by User:Deass who was blocked for repeated copyright violations (and is a sock of User:Nuklear). I don't have any objection to the content in principle, so if you would like to restore the content, unfortunately, it would have to be rewritten in your own words. -- Ed (Edgar181) 23:36, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds reasonable. Unrelated: Is Draft:Nifoxipam decent enough to be added back to live? Aethyta (talk) 03:27, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, it addresses the concerns outlined at the AFD. I wouldn't object to recreating the article.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:47, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Just tried to move and likely can't move until Nifoxipam is deleted first :( Aethyta (talk) 14:50, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, I deleted the redirect and moved the draft. -- Ed (Edgar181) 00:18, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks! Aethyta (talk) 01:05, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Duplicate legal_status parameter
when adding additional legal_status, please press "preview" first to see if you get an error. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 16:55, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Somewhat intended, see talk page of the drugbox. A bot will fix it when germany is officially implemented in the template. Aethyta (talk) 16:57, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Better to not erase existing information, and clog up Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls. Frietjes (talk) 17:01, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * just use legal_DE until it can be fixed. Frietjes (talk) 17:07, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not overwriting any existing information, in some cases it's just not displayed until fixed. Aethyta (talk) 17:10, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * use legal_DE please. Frietjes (talk) 17:11, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * A template error on every page is worse than a duplicate entry in a database that's not really a problem, isn't it? Aethyta (talk) 17:13, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * seriously, [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1,3-Benzodioxolylbutanamine&diff=prev&oldid=685400590 just do this]. Frietjes (talk) 17:14, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Just finished adding Anlage II drugs, a bot can properly fix it when it's added in the template. Once again, I did not overwrite any data. Aethyta (talk) 17:21, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * which bot, where is the bot request? Frietjes (talk) 17:25, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Your script (?) seems to be doing it just fine, thanks. Did the same for Anlage I controlled drugs yesterday by the way. For Anlage III I'll follow your format. Aethyta (talk) 17:33, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * it's not a script, it's going through all of your edits by hand, which is painful. there is, apparently, no automated way to find and correct them. Frietjes (talk) 17:40, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for officially adding it, I appreciate it a lot. Requested the addition months ago with no real outcome and at some point I felt that I just had to do it myself! Aethyta (talk) 17:46, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * try Edit template-protected next time. no one watches the template subpage. Frietjes (talk) 17:59, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * See Wikipedia talk:Chemical infobox. Aethyta (talk) 18:01, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Vermont Regulated Drugs Rule
There is actually an updated list effective Jan 2016 here, with even more compounds on there. Some I've never even heard of! You have to wonder though whether they will need to update this still further before January 2016 even gets here... Meodipt (talk) 06:58, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! It doesn't look finished to me. A few IUPACs missing. Like what the hell is F-UPB-22? Aethyta (talk) 18:21, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I wondered that myself, can't be a typo of FUB-PB-22 as that is listed only a couple lines below, and the Vermont list doesn't have that many mistakes or repeated entries. The "A1 dodeca-2E, 4E, 8Z, 10Z – tetraenoic acid isobutyl amide" turns out to be an alkaloid from Echinacea which is a CB2 agonist in vitro, but it is much weaker at CB1 and there is no reason to believe it is psychoactive - does this mean Echinacea is banned in Vermont? I bet there are still Echinacea products in stores there. Meodipt (talk) 08:29, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Autopatrolled
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Help on Benzamide opioid
Hi, If you look in my Sandbox, you will see that I'm writing up the AH-7921->U-44700 (which I began). I was hoping you had a convenient pKa calculator. I'm searching for papers that reference the paper I've used but the potency appears to be 0.7xm->7.5xM->75x. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated. I think this compound is complex enough that NOBODY is going to make and sell it. I was pretty upset that people misused the U-47700 work but this... this is for completists.... which you look like to me.

With thanks, Delia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dvwynn (talk • contribs) 09:35, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi there, I've improved your sandbox molecule a little bit ;)
 * CG-64089 synthesis is likely too expensive to ever appear on the grey market.
 * Regarding U-47700 (I added links for all references in the article by the way), I'm yet to find proper potency numbers (not mentioned in Casys and Parfitts book either), especially in humans - however, given its populary on the grey market right now, I assume we can expect more research into it in the next few months. Aethyta (talk) 06:28, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

So complete ignore Canadian legal status ?!
.... 15:14, 14 March 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kilon22 (talk • contribs)

Edit reversal
Why was my edit reverted? If you read the citated source, it clearly mention it was not talking about 2C-E.

"The 5-EtO-homologue of 2C-E is 5-ethoxy-4-ethyl-2-methoxyphenethylamine, or 2CE-5ETO. The nitrostyrene intermediate had a melting point of 110-110.5 °C, and the final hydrochloride a melting point of 184-185 °C. The effective level of 2CE-5ETO is in the 10 to 15 milligram range. It is gentle, forgiving, and extremely long lived. Some 3 to 4 hours were needed to achieve plateau, and on occasion experi-ments were interrupted with Valium or Halcion at the 16 hour point. After a night's sleep, there were still some effects evident the next day. Thus, the dose is comparable to the parent compound 2C-E, but the duration is 2 to 3 times longer. It was given the nickname "Eternity" by one subject. "

2C-E-5-EtO is the compound who can last to the next day, not 2C-E. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.4.251.9 (talk) 11:12, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * "For such a dose, the onset of effects takes approximately twenty to ninety minutes and perception may be somewhat altered for up to a day after ingestion. " - it only mentions 2C-E. I don't know where you copied the text above from. Aethyta (talk) 13:09, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

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For maintaining/reposting articles about various new/new on the market psychoactive substances, this information should be on as many pages as possible for the sake of harm reduction if nothing else, even if the sources are sometimes hard to find or lead to various drug forums/vendors

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Changed reference in PZM21
Hi, just curious. I saw you changed the reference in the PZM21 article. Was there anything wrong with it? I use the Cite functionality from the edit toolbar... do I need to update that functionality, perhaps? Egon Willighagen (talk) 05:03, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, nothing "wrong" on your end, I just added the pubmed ID and some other stuff. Aethyta (talk) 11:27, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

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Just to let you know that per your request Mary Joy has been deleted. --Project Osprey (talk) 21:41, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Yay ;) Aethyta (talk) 21:42, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Thiafentanyl Structure
Sorry, but the "new" structure is wrong. The source mistook "N-phenylmethoxyacetamido" and created an unplausible benzyloxyamide (does not find fentanyl structures). N-phenylmethoxyacetamido has to be read N-phenyl-(N-methoxyacetamido)... NOT "N-phenylmethoxy". See discussion https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redaktion_Chemie/Qualit%C3%A4tssicherung#Thiafentanil_.28A-3080.29 and see the US patent, where you can find the synthesis. There is no benzyloxyamine. --FK1954 (talk) 16:01, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
 * For the true structure see http://veteriankey.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/B9781437719864000767_u076-001-9781437719864.jpg. I've written to PubChem concerning their incorrect structure. --FK1954 (talk) 17:40, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Are you implying that I'm misinterpreting the IUPAC as given in the Federal Register? What is wrong with it if I may ask? If I actualy made a mistake (which I did not), there's also no reason for you to be "sorry" about it. The patent doesn't even mention the name Thiafentanil, it's irrelevant. Aethyta (talk) 18:09, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

5-MBPB
Hey mate. Any idea if this one has been banned anywhere yet? Couldn't find any RS for it yet aside from the EMCDDA annual report, but it seems surprising that a reasonably high profile "ecstasy analogue" would stick around for over a year without being banned by any of the jurisdictions which usually move quite fast in this area (e.g. Sweden, Hungary, Japan, etc)...and that makes me wonder if maybe it has been banned somewhere already but the notification just didn't show up in my English-language google search. Or maybe the authorities in those countries have all just been preoccupied with more pressing matters recently, the recent resurgence of fentanyl derivatives would inevitably be more of a concern I would think. Meodipt (talk) 07:34, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Stop spreading germanisation of the English Wikipedia.
Hi, many of your articles are helpful, but contain some words in German (I'm referring to its legal status). It's unnecessary to mention such info on the English Wikipedia, because most (if not all) readers are coming from an English speaking country. The German language has a very bad public opinion in countries that belongs to the Eastern Block, and in general Europe (and the European Union, too). — Preceding unsigned comment added by DFSPp0wt (talk • contribs) 23:07, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * This is hands down the most ridiculous complaint I've ever read. — foxj 23:36, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Agreed! 98.7.124.181 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:34, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Nein, Danke. Aethyta (talk) 12:29, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, You will find data on homologues in the talk sections of many opiates. Ciramadol is one, tilidine another.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.74.135 (talk) 01:46, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

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4-Methylphenethylacetylfentanyl
Hey mate. Do you know anything about this one? I can't find any reports of it being sold as an RC, but Arkansas just added it to their banned list. So far as I can see online it looks like it was invented by Caymanchem the analytical standards supplier, but they have made dozens of novel fentanyls that presumably they think might appear in future, and none of their other prophetic ones seem to have been banned anywhere. Also, this one has some unusual characteristics, the methyl substitution is on the phenethyl phenyl ring not the aniline phenyl ring, which is unusual even if not completely unprecedented, and Cayman have made very few other compounds substituted like that. And it is a derivative of acetylfentanyl, when most of the recent ones have been derivatives of (iso)butyrfentanyl. Just looks a bit too specific to have been come up with by chance. Finally Cayman is offering it as part of a multi panel screening set with various other novel fentanyls that have been on the market recently, as if it is a compound that they expect is likely to show up in seized drug samples. Their other prophetic fentanyls are not offered like this, only as individual items. So this makes me think that this compound must have been sold by some vendor or darkweb site and identified in a drug seizure, even if that hasn't been publicly reported. I don't suppose you have seen any mentions of this compound in any of the user forums or vendor sites you monitor? Meodipt (talk) 20:20, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Interesting, UNODC has it included in a "list of fentanyl-related new psychoactive substances that have been reported to the UNODC Early Warning Advisory, as well as newly emerging fentanyls recently seen in forensic casework in several jurisdictions." - so it must have shown up somewhere, but where? I'm guessing a jurisdiction that isn't coming up in my English-language Google searches... Meodipt (talk) 21:10, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * No idea, some states apparently think of caymanchems as "RC vendor" and ban anything they're selling that sounds like it may or may not ever appear on the grey market in the future. Aethyta (talk) 01:32, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Question about "Diphenidine" edit
Hello, Aethyta!

I've been looking for misspelled words to fix, and I found something in the article Diphenidine that you added on 18 June 2016. The part I'm focusing on says: "in the Shizuoka Prefecture under the name 'Aladdin (sic) Spacial Edition' was found" I assume that the "sic" is to note that the word "Spacial" is wrong in the original. If that's the case, then I think the "sic" should be after the word "Spacial". Let me know if I'm wrong, but assuming I'm right, I'll go ahead and change this, or you could certainly do it, too. Jkgree (talk) 19:30, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Feel free to fix it if it needs fixing, sure! Aethyta (talk) 19:45, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

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