User talk:Afasmit/Archive 3

AfD nomination of Quinn Jacobson
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Notability / Speedy Deletion
I tagged it in relation to Wikipedia's policy on notability, before another editor deleted it - thank you for the disambiguation effort.  Jammy Simpson |  Talk  | 00:04, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

RE:
I will not undelete it since you did not signify his importance. However, I will give you the original text that was on the page so you can recreate it. I will not delete it again if you signify his importance. He's the original text: Jeroen van Veen (born May 2 1969 is a Dutch classical pianist and composer.

Van Veen is the director of the Van Veen Productions, Piano Mania , and the Simeon ten Holt Foundation. He is also artistic director of the Murray Dranoff Two Piano Competition, based in Miami, where he and his brother Maarten van Veen were prize winners in 1995.

March 2008
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently copied the contents of a page and pasted it into another with a different name. This is what we call a "cut and paste move", and it is very undesirable because it splits the article's history, which is needed for attribution and is helpful in many other ways. The mechanism we use for renaming articles is to move it to a new name which both preserves the page's history and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. In most cases, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. If there is an article that you cannot move yourself by this process, follow the instructions at Requested moves to request the move by another. Also, if there are any other articles that you copied and pasted, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Cut and paste move repair holding pen. The Evil Spartan (talk) 16:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

BD sort
Hi. I think is not a very good idea to change birth-death categories to BD. I noticed many problems that may be caused by that. Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser|AWB]] for example is making exactly the opposite of what you are doing. Also if we have DEFAULTSORT it's easier to compare it with listas in the Talk page. It is very good that you remove diacritics but please don't convert everything to BD. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:50, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


 * It seems, we 've been doing the opposite job for some time! Check Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs for the bug in AWB and that it tries to do the opposite of what you do. (So, I had to go and remove Lifetime, BD for many articles to avoid this problem when someone makes general fixes). Secondly, check that many people use Lived to produce the two categories and defaultsort and thirdly, check Category talk:Biography articles with listas parameter about listas. It would be my pleasure to read your opinion. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:49, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your quick reply. AWB has problems with all of them (Lifetime, BD, BD-SORT, etc.). Obviously, it handles them the same way. I mostly use Lifetime, because it's the real thing and tI think is more understandable for an editor than the "mysterious" BD. :) Right now only Lifetime and BD (as a redirect of Lifetime) exist. I agree with you that the guys dealing with AWB have to deactivate the replacement of Lifetime and, as you probably saw, I suggested that in their talk page. Cheers, Magioladitis (talk) 16:44, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Places of birth/death
Well done on all your work. Can I ask you to reconsider where you place the birthplace (and place of death) in a biographical article? For clarity, the name and birth/death dates should be in the opening line, but the locations in the body of the text - see Manual of Style (dates and numbers). I have adjusted the placing of the details you included at Otto van Koppenhagen, for example, in accordance with this style. Carbonix (talk) 16:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

The Usual Suspects
Hi. I reverted your addition and deletions to The Usual Suspects.. Per WP:OR, we aren't supposed to interpret the plot without sources, and that's actually not done in the plot section but in an "interpretation" section. Second, your removal of comments made by the director of the film was a bit strange. If you disagree with the director, then you will need sources, as your opinion, "most people I know saw the "twist" coming half way through", isn't a reliable source. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 00:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the kind note. Feel free to move this comment to the talk page as well; I've responded there. Viriditas (talk) 01:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Van Gogh's Sunflowers
Your last edit to this article added some valuable content, which you jammed in between two closely linked sentences. This is not a good way to go, because if the adjacent sentences rely on continuity for their grammatical sense, then you make nonsense of it, which is what has happened here. There is now a lonely little personal pronoun "he" which once belonged to a Japanese business man, but now belongs to Bondy, along with the Japanese company. Wow! that was an easy take-over! Please check out things like this in future edits. A mistake like this can hang around for months and years. Amandajm (talk) 09:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, I was actually working on it, along with a few other small changes. However, that type of editting error is one of my pet hates. If one is watching a page, the edit reveals itself as an addition of useful factual information. The watcher doesn't check it out, like vandalism, or a naive statement made by a school kid. In this particular case, I wasn't watching the page, or intending to edit the page. I was in the role of someone seeking encyclopedic information, and that is what I found. I am an editor, but I am also part of wiki's wider public. Amandajm (talk) 09:36, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Bill Blankenship
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Place names debate
Thank you for the tip off! I have made a contribution already, and have voted Strong Keep. It is not looking good for my position at the moment. If I get a chance, I shall see if my library has a copy of the B.B.C. Pronouncing Dictionary on British Names and add references to the article. If the library does not have a copy, I honestly cannot be bothered ordering a copy especially to save the article though. Epa101 (talk) 10:04, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

S&P 500
Hi, Afasmit. You might want to take a look at and add your thoughts to the most recent discussion over at Talk:S&P 500. I have restored a big chunk of the discussion, which wasn't there when you last visited that page. Take care! user:j   (aka justen)   14:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

spelling error in article title
I noted that in the past you had taken the trouble to spruce up the article Anthonie Cornelis Oudemans. Unfortunately, the title contains a spelling error (see the Discussion page). Would you be interested in correcting that? The original author of the article only gave an IP-address.--Ereunetes (talk) 20:10, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Just to let you know that I did the deed:-)--Ereunetes (talk) 19:01, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Tehran deletion
Dear Afasmit

On the page of most expensive cities, I deleted Singapore inadvertently. But I think that's unfair to remove Tehran too. Tehran is 74th too and one of the most important cities in the Middle East, so I think it would be better to let it remain.

--Kourosh ziabari (talk) 12:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Anton Sminck Van Pitloo
I don't necessarily agree with your re-naming the article as you did. I think you should have put it for discussion on the talk page first. Before creating the article I did some research in a number of languages (including Dutch) to determine the most recognizable form of his name, and the one I used was in my opinion the most used world-wide.Hohenloh 06:29, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Cilvaringz
Dear Afasmit, I was checking edits by anonymous users on Dutch wiki, and came across the birth date of Dutch rapper Cilvaringz. I couldn't find a source for this, except the English wiki. I saw that you added the year of birth here. Could you tell me where you found this? Thank you very much, Vinvlugt (talk) 13:16, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

On Categorising
No worries, I've made plenty of mistakes in my own articles. The "in the future" bit is a bit harsh, but some folks (not you) seem to churn out dozens of articles and never bother to categorise, so that part is for them. WP:UNCAT seems to be running really smoothly these days, and I've knocked out several hundred articles over this holiday break. MatthewVanitas (talk) 01:02, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Descartes pages
It's true that I'm not working on the Descartes pages any longer. It's unlikely that I will get back to them before May. The plan was to have just a chronology on the main page (this is in the "Rene Descartes" page on my user page, on the supposition that most people who consult the page for biographical information will be just checking facts. From the main page there would be links to the three more detailed pages (1596 to 1629, 1630 to 1639, 1639 to 1650). It would be great to have these pages incorporated into the main article. If you have any questions, let me know.Goclenius (talk) 19:35, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Humanism article
Thanks for entering the debate on the Humanism article and making valuable comments. I do not know if the ensconced opposition will listen to reason, but it is worth making the effort. Wilson Delgado (talk) 15:46, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

mapsofworld spam
I don't know, but you may want to ask at Spam blacklist (either the en wiki list or the global media wiki list).--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 14:52, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Mountains
Hi remember Cat:Mountains of Austria and Cat:Mountains of Italy Dr. Blofeld       White cat 12:46, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah that's OK keep up the good work. One thing though. If the article on German wikipedia is fuller can you add an {Expand German|topic=geo} to the top. This tags it for translation then. Mr. Bigglesworth is doing well, yes he was born in the summer of 1964, the offspring of a Japanese mountain cat and a white sphinx. Still alive though naturally, ah the wonders of cryogenic freezing and time machines huh? Mmmmwwwooooaaahahaaaa! Dr. Blofeld      White cat 21:46, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Prominence
Hi Afasmit, may I ask you where you have found all these prominences of mountains in the Ötztal Alps? Groet, Tubantia (talk) 21:06, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Burial place of Willem Cornelisz Schouten
Hi, a while ago you added to the article of Willem Schouten ''On his return he would sail again for the VOC, and on one of these trips he died of the coast of Madagascar. He was buried in the Noorderkerk in Hoorn.'' I have my doubt about the burial place. Where can I find a reference of this information? Kind regards, Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 10:37, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Edith McAlinden
I've undone your move of this article, as that went against the consensus at this recent AfD. The article as stands needs to be rewritten to be about the murders themselves and not McAlinden.  Them From  Space  01:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Kaos (film)
Nice work on expanding this article!  Lugnuts  (talk) 11:22, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Lucifer Calaritanus
Please see my edits and request at that article. Str1977 (talk) 21:06, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Discussion on deleting your note
A discussion is being held by editors of the William Shakespeare article regarding the note you added, which I support keeping. I hope you can comment here: []. Smatprt (talk) 20:05, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

List of names in English with counterintuitive pronunciations
My removals were not discussed one-by-one on the talk page, nor need they have been. There is a general consensus that the article is in need of drastic pruning. Its (weak) raison d'être for the article is names with counterintuitive pronunciations, such as Milngavie and Cholmondeley, that are wildly at odds with their spelling; not names that have several potential pronunciations from their spellings, only one of which is right. None of the entries I removed was referenced in any case, thus they were fair game for deletion.GideonF (talk) 17:37, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Tōru Sakai
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Jacques Zoon
Hi! It seems you recently created an unreferenced biography of a living person: Jacques Zoon. Our verifiability policy requires that all content be cited to a reliable source. Please add references as soon as possible. Thanks! --LaraBot (talk) 00:20, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Template:Lifetime
Hello. Yobot (a bot of Magioladitis) has removed the Lifetime you added to Bernard Belle. I have no strong opinions for or against the template, but as you're both prolific editors I thought you might like to find a consensus about its use. If it's a deliberate policy to add a template for the bot to expand, then no problem. I have left a similar message at User talk:Magioladitis. Certes (talk) 21:16, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * My reply can be found in User_talk:Certes. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:25, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * (Edit conflict) Magioladitis has explained on my talk page why this is perfectly normal. Case closed; sorry for bothering you. Certes (talk) 21:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Daniel Chanis Pinzón
Just a quick question regarding your redirect of Daniel Chanis to the referenced page. I am unable to find anything about the subject under Google searches for "Daniel Chanis Pinzón", and "Daniel Pinzón" only yields references to a wrestler out of Florida. The term "Daniel Chanis", however, is very fertile ground for references, and he is listed on the Panamanian heads of state list as such. I would like to move the page back to "Daniel Chanis" and redirect the referenced article. The name in the article would remain the same, though. What are your thoughts? and could you post them to the talk page? Thanks, Vulture19 (talk) 21:45, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello Afasmit! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 1 of the articles that you created  is an  Unreferenced Biography of a Living Person. Please note that all biographies of living persons must be sourced. If you were to add reliable, secondary sources to this article, it would greatly help us with the current  article backlog. Once the article is adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the article:

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 07:44, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Patrick Ortlieb -

A Sincere Thanks
Thanks so much for chiming in on the Shakespeare authorship page. It was getting a bit lonely! Smatprt (talk) 07:32, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Mass Deletions
A new editor is deleting mass amounts of material (all Oxfordian as it happens) from the Authorship page. Would you mind taking a look and reverting if need be? Thanks.Smatprt (talk) 00:26, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * User: Smatprt is disrespectfully misrepresenting my attempt to keep the Shakespeare authorship article balanced. It has too many Oxfordian citations and far from being disruptive I have suggested neutral citations. I get the feeling that he believes that he is the only one who is allowed to edit this article. I notice that because he is on the edge of the 3R rule he is trying to use someone else to revert it. WellStanley (talk) 00:28, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: List of weather records
I looked into it, and the Mount Washington wind speed was a ten-second gust, not a one-minute sustained. Thanks for your update! - Running On Brains (talk) 22:01, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Othmar Zeidler
Hey. A couple years ago, you wrote that Othmar Zeidler was born in 1859. This would make him 15 when he published his thesis work. Now, while Science does indeed describe him as "young" when he made this discovery, they don't explicate his age. Do you have a reliable source for this birthyear? Thanks. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:42, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Your Opinion is requested
As an occasional editor of various Shakespeare authorship articles, your opinion is requested here []. Smatprt (talk) 15:46, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Charlton Greenwood Ogburn
Here's the stub. Please look it over and make any needed changes. I know it needs refs but don't have any others easily to hand at the moment. Thanks for the inspiration!

Charlton Greenwood Ogburn

Jo Campbell
Afasmit wrote '.....lacking an allmusic.com entry'

There is an entry on that site. Please undo. Further details have been submitted. "100Club (talk) 21:49, 1 April 2010 (UTC)"

Afasmit: Please look and undo, this vocalist is listed on the site 'allmusic.com' with ref to the Three Laws band. This is a match. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 100Club (talk • contribs) 15:02, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Julius Christiaan van Oven


The article Julius Christiaan van Oven has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners or ask at Help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Joe Decker (talk) 02:04, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Glad you almost instantly noticed that Van Oven has been dead for 47 years. Also, the stubs that I'm creating contain notifications that the Dutch wikipedia entries are and/or contain the source(s), which, considering many such stubs have been around for years, seems to be standard practice. Afasmit (talk) 02:13, 19 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Indeed, very sorry for the error! Please accept my apologies.


 * Had Van Oven been alive, though, the tag would have been in line with English Wikipedia policy -- it may have been standard practice, but it's apparently the idea over here to have it not be policy for newly created (to Eng Wikipedia) articles. That having been said, even a single barely plausible source, not necessarily in English, is enough to override this particular form of proposed deletion.  More info at .  Again, my apologies for the error, I'm only explaining it because I think, if you're moving over a lot of articles, you might run into it again.    --Joe Decker (talk) 02:22, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

cats, rkd, and general cleanup for DGA painters
Hi. I noticed you have been zipping around cleaning up the categories and RKD dates on a bunch of Dutch Golden Age painter entries. I just wanted to extend my thanks, because it desperately needs doing, so THANKS! Your work is really appreciated! Jane (talk) 05:15, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

You are now a Reviewer
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Joris Carolus
What were the sources? And what were the estimates based on for his date of birth/death? Jonas Poole (talk) 03:54, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Order of Oranje-Nassau
I effectively reverted your April 2009 edit here; and I've explained at Talk:Order of Oranje-Nassau. Will you help me figure out how to improve my explanation.

This issue has come up in a variety of contexts, e.g., recently at Talk:Queen Elizabeth II Golden Jubilee Medal. In this non-Netherlands context, Miesianiacal is not "wrong" ... nor are you. However, I am persuaded that a few illustrative examples are better than no illustrative examples. For example, I only begin to grasp the difference between the Order of the Rising Sun and the Order of the Sacred Treasure when I look at the articles about select recipients. --Tenmei (talk) 19:55, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

RFD discussion of Christian nation
As an editor of this redirect, you may be interested to know it is currently being discussed at WP:Redirects for discussion. Your comments are welcome at Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 July 21. Robofish (talk) 12:10, 21 July 2010 (UTC)