User talk:Africanainews

Bonaventure Dossou moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Bonaventure Dossou, is not suitable as written to remain published. It appears there is a WP:UPE or WP:COI conflict. Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, and have addressed the UPE/COI issue, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. As per WP policy, please do not move into mainspace yourself.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:18, 15 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Can you please specify which section lack of verification? The article has enough references (including talks, awards, etc) and can be confirmed through the social medias of the scientist Africanainews (talk) 15:39, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * All information for the Awards section have been referenced by official links from multiple sources, including his social medias. His website is https://bonaventuredossou.github.io/ for all confirmation. We have been following the scientist since his debut, and he has contributed a lot to our African languages, and the African youth by his motivation and achievements. I declare no interest of conflict, or being paid to write this article. We strongly believe our African talents, doing great things across the globe should be highlighted, promoted and known. Wikipedia is the best place for this! @Onel5969 Africanainews (talk) 17:20, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Who is this "we" you keep referring to? And there are clear indications you have a connection to the article's subject. Onel 5969  TT me 17:23, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Onel5969 Could you please state those indications? Main information has been taken from the subject's interviews, podcasts, etc. The resources are all online and can be verified. We are a group of person, who have passion for AI and modern technologies. Africanainews (talk) 17:29, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

November 2022
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 * Comment - there were certain blatant indications that there is a COI/UPE conflict here. The continued reticence to adhere to WP policies only makes it more likely to be true. Onel 5969  TT me 19:47, 15 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Onel5969 I can notice you used the past tense "were" - does that mean those are not anymore? Regarding the "continued reticence", I have stated that I am ready to edit and remove any remaining promotion tone words (as I did prior publication) if you can provide more specific indications. I have also shared the website of the authors where one can see all information I shared on this page + links to his social medias. I believe even a simple search with his name will reveal you all sources I have used, pictures etc. The fact that his scientific work for the preservation of African languages is truly inspiring for many people, does not mean I have any sort of link with him - which I repeat I do not have. Africanainews (talk) 20:08, 15 November 2022 (UTC)


 * You declared a COI on your user page, what is the nature of it? You didn't pick this person at random to edit about. You say above "We strongly believe our African talents, doing great things across the globe should be highlighted, promoted and known. Wikipedia is the best place for this!"- this is gravely mistaken, Wikipedia is exactly the wrong place to do that regardless of if its Africans or Europeans or Asians or Vulcans. Wikipedia is for summarizing what independent reliable sources say about topics meeting Wikipedia's special definition of notability. 331dot (talk) 21:01, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @331dot I actually did not declare conflict of interest - this was added automatically after the article was reviewed. In the history of my user page, yes I did declare it, and removed it right after, as I was playing around with first WP draft guidelines. Wikipedia is used everyday, widely used in language technologies per multiple reports: it talks about people like my article's subject, politicians, scientists, etc. Even though in formal literature, WP is not recommended to be used as a "trusted" website, it has become the "way-to-go" to learn about something, or someone and the things the latter has done for his community or the global society; we "google" and usually read WP information first. I surely did not just pick him to edit about, I did because of his technological contributions to the African community: for instance he developed the single at this date, machine translation of Beninese languages, built many more covering more and more languages (I know this because I follow closely his research and talks, and interviews that he always shares with the community though his social medias), promoting them and valorizing them. At this point, the only tie with the article's subject is that we are from the same country, I do not know him personally - and the other reason I started with him is we do not have a young figure that already contributed as much as he did so far. Representation matters!.The article I wrote summarizes his contributions, and scientific works (as for any other scientist, probably well-known and more established than him - for which this discussion could not have happened); sources are all referenced, can be independently checked and are reliable. I will take a step back out of this discussion, and trust your judgments regarding my status, and the article I wrote about Bonaventure Dossou. As I stated, I am willing to edit the article, to the best convenience. I also want to end by reaffirming that I have no close relationship with him. Africanainews (talk) 21:50, 15 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @331dot Thank you for your reply and decision. Africanainews (talk) 22:27, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @331dot I am however still open to reviewing the article for it responds to WP standards. As you were able to share the latest edit link with me, I believe you could also see that it was recently done at 17:34, on 15 November 2022‎ by Orangemike. As stated before, this was my first page, and I stand by the fact that I made that change, going through recommendations to get the first draft. It was pure curiosity. Should I be right to assume that you are probably claiming promotion here because he is not a notorious scientist? Because of writing this article, I followed closely the way various Scientific' articles - which also could be for promotion if I get the logic used all along here. As I stated, all sources are referenced, can be easily checked, and can be confirmed. I believe your research could also demonstrate that the article's subject did not promote this page, proving he does not have any link to this. I hope the article will receive a fair review, regardless of this back-and-forth situation with my contributions.
 * Thank you for the discussion. Africanainews (talk) 22:47, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * That will have to wait until you get unblocked. You are free to make another request for someone else to review. 331dot (talk) 23:18, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @331dot I went on Teahouse to ask for help to review the article, yet I can not even reply because the blockage. So how do I possible make the request of someone else to review? Africanainews (talk) 01:37, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * So @331dot how do I get unblocked? Africanainews (talk) 02:29, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

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 * @Onel5969 I went on Teahouse to ask for help to review the article, yet I can not even reply because the blockage. So how do I possible make the request of someone else to review? Africanainews (talk) 01:38, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * So @Onel5969 How do I get unblocked ? Africanainews (talk) 02:29, 16 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Yamla I have been on Teahouse, and I was unable to request for external editors, because I am blocked. I also went on the real-time chat on https://kiwiirc.com/ - same thing, they can not help me as far as I am a blocked user. So can you please be clear when you say "I am not buying it" ? Trust me, this discussion, is not something I want to go through again - and I can not make improvements to the article, if I am not unblocked. Africanainews (talk) 14:01, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't believe that you added the WP:COI declaration by accident so do not believe it would be appropriate for you to work on that article or to solicit others to do so. --Yamla (talk) 14:03, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Yamla I wish my sincerity here was considered. This never crossed my mind, I did not go into creating multiple accounts - that would have been very fishy and suspect. I have stated that I took the steps required to get more experienced people to work on the article, yet I can not write them on Teahouse, and I also can not get help on the real-time chat because I am a blocked user. From here, the COI is one of the tags explained and experimented. As a first time user, I repeated and repeat that this was a pure mistake - it was just for the curiosity of how it works and I reverted it. I wish I was trusted and given a second chance, the benefit of doubt here to rectify my mistake. I am even open to reach out to experienced editors, yet they can not help if I am blocked. Creating a scenario that will result in this long-ongoing discussion, was the latest of my thoughts, I have never thought about it. Africanainews (talk) 14:23, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Yamla I am also fine if you or any admin in this conversation can ask one or many editors to look at the article. I am not intending to necessarily modify it by myself. I am open and welcoming help. Africanainews (talk) 14:31, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * You cannot use this page to solicit others to edit for you. While blocked, you only have access to this page to ask to be unblocked. If you don't intend to do that, there is nothing more to do here. 331dot (talk) 15:26, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @331dot @Onel5969 @Yamla But at the same time, all my requests are being denied. Throughout this discussion, I have had a single version, the way things had happened on my end. I have recognized the wrong, explained how it came up, and expressed with and initiated actions to get things improved. Still you are not "buying it". So what are you expected from me, to get unblocked? Africanainews (talk) 15:38, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Please stop pinging me. --Yamla (talk) 15:44, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * (ec) If you have nothing else to offer in an unblock request, you probably won't be unblocked and will have to find somewhere else to act on your goals. Experimenting with a COI tag, if that's what you were doing, was a poor experiment to perform. I have nothing else to say. You may either request unblock again, or not. I don't wish to be further pinged, either. 331dot (talk) 15:46, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

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