User talk:Afrost24

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Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. JohnCD (talk) 14:19, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. JohnCD (talk) 14:20, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

February 2009
This is your last warning. You will be blocked from editing the next time you vandalize a page, as you did with this edit to Oklahoma Christian School. J.delanoy gabs adds 14:23, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Oklahoma Christian School
Hi there. I've reverted your recent edits to Oklahoma Christian School, and I think you deserve a proper explanation for what's been happening to the changes you are trying to make. I believe your edits have been made in good faith and I suspect you are probably feeling pretty frustrated that others are reverting them. But unfortunately, the changes you are making are breaking Wikipedia policy in a number of ways, and you might find it helpful to have a close look at the relevant policies before you edit again. I've linked them below - just click on the blue links to see them.

Firstly, you have stated that you're editing on behalf of the school, in order to produce a version of the page that is acceptable to the Head. However, we discourage people from editing pages with which they are personally connected, because they may have difficulty producing edits that are neutral and factual, as required. See Conflict of interest. So, for example, employees of a company are strongly discouraged from editing articles about that company, particularly if they are doing so on the instructions of a more senior employee with an agenda about how the company wants the article to appear.

Secondly, you are repeatedly trying to produce a version of the page that is to your liking (or the liking of the Head). We have a policy known as WP:OWN, which basically states that no editor "owns" an article or has a right to insist on their own preferred version. Any changes made to an article should be neutral, factual, and supported by credible references - if not, then any other editor is free to return the article to its previous form. If an editor repeatedly tries to impose his/her changes on an article despite the fact that they have been rejected for good reasons according to Wikipedia's policies, then they may end up with warnings (which has been happening to you), and eventually to a block or even a ban.

Thirdly, and linked to the last point, Wikipedia requires factual content and a neutral tone. Content that is obviously promotional or non-neutral is unacceptable and will almost certainly be spotted and removed quickly (see WP:NPOV). You have removed sections of the article that were written in a neutral, third-person tone, and have replaced them with something that unfortunately reads like promotional copy. It's written in the first person ("We believe that God has blessed our students with advantages and gifts in many areas...") which is always unacceptable on Wikipedia - and even worse, it's copied from the school's website, which almost certainly violates Wikipedia's rules on copyright. Sentences like "OCS chapel is the heartbeat that moves the spiritual lifeblood of our school community" read like an advertising brochure and are not suitable in tone for an encyclopaedia - if I hadn't reverted, someone else would have. And since you've already received a final warning, they might have taken action which would result in your account being blocked for a period to prevent you editing.

JohnCD's left you a message on his talk page explaining ways in which you could argue for changes to the article within the rules, and I'll be glad to advise if I can, if you want to leave a message on mine. In the meantime, I hope this explanation helps you understand more about Wikipedia policies, and why your edits have been reverted by others. Regards, Ka renjc 22:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

If you want to improve the article...
There have been further deletions from Oklahoma Christian School today by you and by IP 74.213.46.194 (which is registered to the school, and which may be you editing while not logged in). I have explained on my talk page, and Ka renjc has explained above, that you and the school do not own the article and that in editing it you have a conflict of interest which makes it difficult to adhere to Wikipedia's requirement for a neutral point of view. If you want changes to the article, please do not go on making changes on your own, but make a proposal on the article's talk page, making clear that you are associated with the school, and explaining what changes you would like to see, and try to reach consensus with other editors on an improved article. I suggest that you show these messages to your head so that he understands Wikipedia's point of view. If after several warnings you continue to make changes unilaterally, you may be blocked from editing. JohnCD (talk) 17:38, 18 February 2009 (UTC)