User talk:Agnosticaphid/Archive 2

AfD
Callaway is just blowing smoke. They and every administrator know that even if the article history must be kept, it in no way indicates that the current article content must be kept as a stand alone article. The "delete" !votes just get converted to "convert to redirect and permalock". -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  21:08, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I see. Makes sense; I was skeptical that by merging something into another article you could somehow legitimately prevent the parent article from being deleted.  Thanks! AgnosticAphid  talk 21:30, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

MOS
Interesting. "I don't think it's really necessary to say this again, but a great deal of effort went into the MOS section in question, and absent some sort of ultra-compelling reason -- which 'Wikipedia is wrong' really is not -- I cannot see this ending up differently than all the other similar discussions." I can not think of a better reason for editing a guideline, than to stop it from introducing errors into Wikipedia. My first edit was prompted solely because Wikipedia was wrong, and I corrected it. While many of my edits add information, a large portion of them correct errors. What sort of ultra compelling reason is more important than "Wikipedia is wrong"? Sounds ultra compelling to me. How can we expect anyone to trust Wikipedia if we believe that being wrong is acceptable in an encyclopedia whose sole purpose is to provide accurate and correct information? Apteva (talk) 18:40, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I would submit that there is a difference between substantive errors in Wikipedia's encyclopedic content, which definitely should be corrected, and differences between our in-house style manual and common usage, which is more a matter of opinion and consistency. I don't think that there's any requirement that the MOS reflect common usage.  Obviously we shouldn't choose rules that are hopelessly confounding or grammatically incorrect, but the rule in question here is crystal clear -- just use an en dash -- and it's not like using the en dash in this way is prohibited. AgnosticAphid  talk 18:57, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:51, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Hand-coding
Hey all :).

I'm dropping you a note because you've been involved in dealing with feedback from the Article Feedback Tool. To get a better handle on the overall quality of comments now that the tool has become a more established part of the reader experience, we're undertaking a round of hand coding - basically, taking a sample of feedback and marking each piece as inappropriate, helpful, so on - and would like anyone interested in improving the tool to participate :).

You can code as many or as few pieces of feedback as you want: this page should explain how to use the system, and there is a demo here. Once you're comfortable with the task, just drop me an email at and I'll set you up with an account :).

If you'd like to chat with us about the research, or want live tutoring on the software, there will be an office hours session on Monday 17 December at 23:00 UTC in. Hope to see some of you there! Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:02, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

RFC/U for Apteva: move to close
I am notifying all participants in Requests for comment/Apteva that Dicklyon has moved to close the RFC/U, with a summary on the talkpage. Editors may now support or oppose the motion, or add comments:


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N oetica Tea? 04:18, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

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Discussion on the AFT5 Request for Comment
Hey - this is to notify you that there is a discussion starting on the Article Feedback RfC talkpage that has ramifications for the RfC itself. Your input is much appreciated :). Thanks! and apologies if I've missed anyone Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 16:33, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

March GOCE copyedit drive
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Split
Article List of cathedrals in Israel and the Palestinian territories is proposed to be split into List of cathedrals in Israel and List of cathedrals in Palestine. Please join the discussion.GreyShark (dibra) 15:37, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Precious again
  bold justice

Thank you for dealing with MOS questions, for tireless copy-editing behind the scenes, and for entering a scene with, worded with a sense of justice that even I understand, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:45, 30 May 2013 (UTC) A year ago, you were the 500th recipient of my Pumpkin Sky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:24, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

PROD nomination of First World problem
Hi, I'm just writing to let you know I have contested the PROD of the above article. My reasons are explained on the talk page. The phrase may still not be in regular enough usage, but given the sources currently in the article, I think that should be decided via an AFD. Kind regards, AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 11:53, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

December 2014 GOCE newsletter
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GOCE holiday 2014 newsletter
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GOCE 2014 report
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Stylization of the "common name"
In January 2013 there was a "RfC on COMMONSTYLE proposal" at WT:AT in which you expressed an interest. FYI there is a similar debate taking place at the moment, see Wikipedia talk:Article titles -- PBS-AWB (talk) 12:17, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

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GOCE March newsletter
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MOS is a guideline, AT is a policy

 * 19:20, 27 February 2015‎ Agnosticaphid (talk | contribs | block)‎ . . (47,692 bytes) (-266)‎ . . (Undid revision 649119189 by PBS (talk) wary of adding a lonely punctuation rule to WP:AT when WP:MOS expressly states to refer to it bc "WP:Article titles does not contain detailed rules about punctuation.")

It is not "a lonely punctuation rule" see for example "Do not enclose titles in quotes".

See Wikipedia talk:Article titles/Archive 40 (January 2013), WT:AT (February 2015), Just because the MOS contains an express statement does not mean there is consensus for such a statement -- surly you must know that as you took part in both discussions. The MOS is a guideline, AT is policy and as WP:POLICY says "Policies explain and describe standards that all users should normally follow, while guidelines are meant to outline best practices for following those standards in specific contexts". In this case it is a standard not best practice.

-- PBS (talk) 10:55, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 * But telling editors not to end titles with a period is surely a "best practice for following" the article titling standards "in [the] specific context" of what punctuation should or should not be used. Right?  The whole section of WP:AT is a bunch of rules for things "used in deciding on questions not covered by the five principles" which actually means the whole list is really more of a guideline than a policy since it's applying the 5 principles to "specific contexts".  Also, where do we draw the line with these punctuation rules?  Do we put all of the rules in WP:AT?  Should we have an extended discourse on whether titles should use an en dash or hyphen?  These are all sorts of stylistic considerations involved in titling articles but that's why we have a manual of style, I thought.  Finally, a variation on the sentence we're discussing has been in WP:MOS for much longer than three years.  AgnosticAphid  talk 17:04, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of songs recorded by Ariana Grande/archive1
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Featured list candidates/Meghan Trainor discography/archive1
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Hi
Hi, I just saw your username at the village pump, and figured we must be some sort of pseudonymous siblings :) Cheers, SemanticMantis (talk) 15:43, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Invitation to comment on VP proposal: Establish WT:MoS as the official site for style Q&A on Wikipedia
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New move request for New York
In case you are still unaware of this discussion, there is a new discussion for renaming New York to New York (state). As you participated in the previous discussion on this topic, you may want to express your opinion in the new disussion. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 04:19, 10 July 2017 (UTC)