User talk:Agostino.prastaro

Recent edits to Navier–Stokes existence and smoothness
Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed that you recently added commentary to the Navier–Stokes existence and smoothness article. While Wikipedia welcomes editors' opinions on an article and how it could be changed, these comments are more appropriate for the article's accompanying talk page. If you post your comments there, other editors working on the same article will notice and respond to them, and your comments will not disrupt the flow of the article. Thank you! Technopat (talk) 23:25, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:Poincaré conjecture
WP is not for self-promotion. Such material is subject to immediate reversion, including talk pages. See WP:TPO and WP:PROMO. Choor monster (talk) 15:37, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

June 2015
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Talk:Poincaré conjecture. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. -- Orduin  Discuss 20:21, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * See the ANI discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. You may respond there if you wish. Some editors have claimed you are misusing Wikipedia to promote your own ideas. Another observes that you have never posted on a user talk page. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 02:44, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The comments expressed at ANI suggest that the next logical step is to block you indefinitely from Wikipedia. There is no sign that you will wait for confirmation by regular mathematical authorities that you  have solved all these famous problems. EdJohnston (talk) 12:50, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

On the Choor Monster's vandalism against Prástaro's 'Smooth Poincare' Conjecture-talk
Dear EdJohnston

in the following I answer to Choor Monster's notifications about:

1) 'Navier-Stokes'.
 * He refers to an action in the 'article' that never I have made.

In this link my contribution has been in the section talk. However, since my proof of the Navier-Stokes problem has been published in mathematical journals and research-books, it should be useful to post also in the article a link to these works.

2) 'Poincare' Conjecture'. 
 * My talk, deleted by 'Choor Monster', concerns an important subject strictly related to the Poincare' conjecture, that has been also recalled in the index at the point 'Smooth Poincare' Conjecture'. Since this last particular conjecture has been recently solved by A. Prástaro (2010), in my opinion it should be very important for the reader to include here all information about such a subject. It is very strange to claim that this my talk is for my self-promotion ! If this criterion should be accepted, then almost all contributions in Wikipedia should be considered for self-promotion. Instead this Choor Monster's claim is not a serious approach to classify contributions in Wikipedia. In fact, each user gives to Wikipedia contributions according to his personal specialization and research-contributions ! It is worth to underline that in my talk I quoted also some works where I generalized the smooth Poincare' conjecture to the category of quantum (super) manifolds.

All such researches are published on international journals or book series in Mathematics, therefore accepted, after peer reviews, by international editorial committees. It is an injury to claim that these works are a simple self-promotion.

Wikipedia stated that personal attachs must be avoided ... I agree. But personal attachs are allowed to Choor Monster ...


 * Therefore I consider definitively unacceptable to erase my talk on the 'Smooth Poincare' Conjecture', and I invite you to repost it soon, otherwise I should conclude that an unjustified vandalism has been produced against my quoted talk.

My best regards. Agostino Prástaro (Agostino.prastaro (talk) 21:35, 3 June 2015 (UTC))

Possible block
Please see my [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=665632609&oldid=665631608 offer at ANI]. You can avoid a block for disruptive editing if you will agree to refrain from mentioning or citing your own work on any page of Wikipedia. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 15:41, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Since I posted my offer at ANI there have been a series of posts by IPs in that thread. My assumption is that those IPs are you, so I conclude that you aren't accepting my offer. If that's the case, I'll proceed with the block shortly. To be specific, I assume that all the IPs in this ANI thread (permanent link) are actually you. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 23:04, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Is there a reason you didn't proceed with a block? It would certainly seem to have been earned. BMK (talk) 00:18, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Blocked for using Wikipedia to promote your mathematical work
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for Using Wikipedia to promote your own mathematical work. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text below this notice:. Your activity on Wikipedia amounts to Disruptive editing. You are promoting your own works without regard for whether they are a net benefit to the encyclopedia, and without waiting for any support from others. You seem to think you have some kind of right of publicity here. You do not take any notice of the opinions of other editors that your own work doesn't belong in these articles or on the talk pages. I offered you a way out if you would promise to refrain, but you didn't take it. The discussion of your edits was at [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=665824628#User:Agostino.prastaro_using_Talk_pages_as_a_forum this ANI thread (permanent link)]. You can still be unblocked if you will accept the offer given previously. You can agree to refrain from mentioning or citing your own work on any page of Wikipedia, including talk pages and noticeboards.

Irrespective of any unblock negotiation, you must not edit regular Wikipedia pages under any account or IP unless this block is lifted. See WP:GAB for general advice on contesting a block. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 00:33, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Dear Wikipedia
the block of my account is in conflict with instructions that I received just from Wikipedia. Really two years ago I asked where I can post my remarks and information about some Wikipedia-article that intersects my mathematical research. This information was that to this purpose there is the Wikipedia-talk section. In fact I followed this information to post some my talks. Please consider that all such my talks concern remarks that are supported by published works, open to any interested reader. So that, even if talk-section could contain opinions different from ones expressed in the main article, my talks always give complementary information, well supported by published works. Well ! With this respect, one cannot accept the opinion that now gives EdJhonston, that in this way I do self-promotion ! Really when the subject concerns published works, the diffusion of such an information cannot be considered more self-promotion, but a regular diffusion of news whose consensus has been given, at least from some serious journals and editors. On the other hand, it is ridiculous to require, as made by EdJhonston, that before to write a Wikipedia-talk I should made a referendum between mathematicians, asking to friends to sign my talks !.... I am a mathematician, I produce mathematics, not referendum. However, the point is the following. Does it is true that discussions on Wikipedia-articles can be made in the Wikipedia-talk section according to the instructions that I received ? Whether this is lawful why someone block my Wikipedia account ?

My best regards,

Agostino Prástaro '''_________________________ Prof. Dr. Agostino Prástaro University of Roma La Sapienza & Roma Sapienza Foundation

'''(Agostino.prastaro (talk) 21:23, 13 June 2015 (UTC))
 * Please see WP:GAB to make a valid unblock request. We do not cover everything published in a journal in Wikipedia. There are rules to decide which content is sufficiently important, and you don't seem to be familiar with them. See WP:POL for our policies. EdJohnston (talk) 01:08, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Your only purpose on Wikipedia seems to be to spread your own research. If all you write about is your own work, then yes, that will be seen as self-promotion. There are lots of other ways for you to improve Wikipedia's coverage of mathematical topics if you are interested in helping Wikipedia. Huon (talk) 15:53, 14 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi. I think you are missing the point. It may be that you "often quoted Wikipedia articles, written by other authors, in my works", but that's really not relevant. The point is that Wikipedia talk pages are not forums for you to present your own work, they are only for the purposes of working towards improving the articles. In fact, Wikipedia does not offer a forum for presenting original work at all (see WP:OR). If you wish to present your own work, you'll need to do that elsewhere, and it is not eligible for inclusion in Wikipedia until it gets significant coverage in reliable sources (as described in WP:RS). Mr Potto (talk) 18:31, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

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