User talk:Agriculture/Archive3

 Please add new comments in new sections. Thanks in advance. Agriculture  Talk archives: archive1 archive2

Illinois Template - Redux
The reason I did not like the template was because it was too large. I have been playing with the idea of condensing it while still leaving in the individule links, please see User:Gpyoung/Illinois for my work on this. I know its not much smaller, but it cuts down the wasted space, making it aat least a little smaller. Tell me what you think. --Gpyoung talk 03:58, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * My concern is that the sections aren't as clear, though I agree with and support the change to the banner, the banner was a lot of wasted space. Perhaps moving the section names just above the sections and centering would be a good thing? Agriculture 04:09, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

User:LaLa
Agriculture, thanks for the heads up about LaLa's latest &mdash; unfortunately the guy is only managing to dig himself a hole &mdash; at last count he's managed to annoy 4 admins in less than 24 hours, which is a shame, since I actually think he has the potential to be a valuable contributor... Fawcett5 04:09, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Agriculture, you are welcome to use the archiving format, I think I stole it from someone else to begin with anyway... (-:  As for User:Noitall, I have been quietly keeping an eye on him since the abortive Rfc (which I did not hear about until it was already deleted). Fawcett5 19:44, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Urbana
My original comment on the talk page of User:jcarlyle Your image is not a "typical scene" from Urbana. Urbana is not known for trash, but rather as a high value housing community. It is unencyclopedia and uncalled for. Agriculture 16:07, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
 * While I conceed that Urbana's trash problem might not deserve top of page attention, the simple fact of life that if you live in one of Western's neighborhoods, your back alley will be filled with garbage most of the time. We aren't the chamber of commerce here; we should strive to accurately portray the city. The first thing most of my friends and relatives comment on when they visit me is the amount of trash filling the city's alleyways. Clearly, trash is a problem for Urbana. jcarlyle 00:09 Aug. 9, 2005 UTC
 * While trash may be a problem for your landlord, it is not a problem for the city as a whole, and claiming that your photo is a "typical scene" is downright false. Perhaps I should photograph my plaster wall and post it on the page saying "A typical wall in Urbana."? Utterly unencyclopedic.  I suggest you spend some time reading other articles before making changes. Agriculture 23:18, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
 * If one landlord were to own every property in Urbana west of Race and north of Florida, I would agree that trash was the problem of a single property owner. Yet this is not the case. Trash has been and continues to be a very visible problem in the city of Urbana. jcarlyle 01:37 Aug. 9, 2005 UTC
 * Then cite your sources. "Because I think so" is not a valid source on Wikipedia.  Urbana is known for great housing environments, not a supposed trash problem. Agriculture 00:47, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Ohio State Capitol or Statehouse
I saw you moved the Ohio Statehouse article to Ohio State Capitol. Are you sure this is correct? I looked at the State of Ohio's website and most pages call the building the Ohio Statehouse. Pentawing 02:12, 15 August 2005 (UTC)


 * One more thing: should the state capitol articles all use "state capitol" or the official titles? For instance, in Massachusetts and Rhode Island, the buildings are never referred to as "state capitols." Instead, they are called state houses. Pentawing 02:46, 15 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I suppose it is a matter of question as to which is correct.  In the general term the State Capitol is the state house in many cases, but the State Capitol is not always a state house.  I'm working on bringing all the state capitols together as a coherent and fully detailed article.  What I intend to do is to restructure all the pages of XXX State Capitol to contain descriptions of all the Capitols of that state throughout history, whether state house, mansion, rented facility, or in the case of Lousiana, fortress.  We should probably discuss this more, if you like, on WikiProject U.S. state capitols, a project I've set up for this purpose. Agriculture 06:31, 15 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I responded with my thoughts on the matter on the WikiProject U.S. state capitols talk page. Pentawing 21:29, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Decency
Hi there. I recently put my name under the wikiproject decency. Am I wanted/needed? What should I do as a member? I must thank you for forming this project to help combat indecency in wikipedia. Please let me know if the project actually wants me, and if so, what can I do to help? Yours in editing.. Banes 12:23, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Photos
Regarding photos, I think that photographs are inherently preferable to drawings, all else being equal, for a number of reasons. First of all, there's no issues of accuracy--a photo shows exactly what occurs, and there is no danger that the act is portrayed inaccurately. Secondly, greater detail is possible with photographs--for example, color and fine details, rather than the rough line sketches which are being touted as replacements. Not only that, but photographs are more likely to be seen as reliable by people unfamiliar with the act, enhancing encylopedic credibility.

As for the issue of Florida law, IANAL, and therefore don't feel qualified to comment fully. However, I believe there's some protection to be had in that the photos are being used in an educational manner, and not appealing to prurient interests. In addition, we could host the images on some of our servers in Europe or elsewhere. I don't think the legal difficulties are insurmountable--I haven't seen them mentioned up until now, and I'm not sure how seriously to take them without independent legal consultation (no offense intended, of course--I'd just like to get a professional perspective on the matter. Perhaps I'll mention it at the reference desk). HTH, and best wishes. Meelar (talk) 16:27, August 16, 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, at least you were right on the first three photos. The three photos were up for deletion since they were mostly copyvios, no source, and the uploader, User:MrGooGah, mainly just uploaded pornography. Of course, we not always consistant on our deletions and our votes, so I hope you understood my reasoning in keeping the autofellatio image. I hope the users are not attacking you at all, but we had major problems with earlier photos of autofellatio. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 00:23, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Vfd
I've been trying to chime in but keep getting locked out...--MONGO 08:08, August 17, 2005 (UTC)