User talk:Agritech6

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History section
I noticed you removed the history section to several articles. Is there a reason for this? Thank you-RFD (talk) 19:17, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Please don't delete articles without discussion
I reverted your blanking of the articles Lawrence, Minnesota and Merriam, Minnesota. Even if these communities are not the quite the places they once were, or even ghost towns, they are still notable. Wikipedia functions as a gazetteer and geographical articles are inherently notable. Please refrain from undoing the hard work of editors at WikiProject Ghost towns.– Gilliam (talk) 17:06, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for updating with "extinct town". Constructive changes are welcome. Keep in mind that it is irrelevant whether a community might "in the future" be annexed per WP:CRYSTAL.– Gilliam (talk) 17:27, 6 April 2015 (UTC)


 * You have to be careful when you start creating new community articles in a metropolitan area. In Minnesota, unincorporated communities are only still unincorporated communities if they are still listed on current official County maps with MN/Dot. I have been reviewing many of your new articles in recent months.  Please see the following link and use as a reference in the future : http://www.dot.state.mn.us/maps/gdma/maps-county-alpha.html Also, use the following helpful link as a reference from the Minnesota Historical Society : http://mnplaces.mnhs.org/upham/

Otherwise, you are literally creating more editing work for the other Wikipedia editors who have been working tirelessly on these WikiProject articles. In addition, you are creating a headache for transportation officials and local government officials when you create community articles in a metropolitan area where future annexation or incorporation plans are about to happen. You may cause confusion in the eyes of the general public who use Wikipedia as a trusted source on what is actually the definition for an unincorporated community, or a ghost town, abandoned townsite, an extinct town, etc. – Agritech6 17:27, 6 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't worry about the possibility of future annexation or incorporation until that happens, because at Wikipedia we rely on reliable sources and don't speculate. I would appreciate it if you would add a few of your choice references yourself, and show me the examples. I'm always looking for new resources to add to my toolbox. "Unincorporated community" is by definition not a legally binding term. Since the borders of an unincorporated community are not known precisely, and the Census doesn't count them, there will naturally be some disagreement about them. I personally rely on the Geographic Names Information System .– Gilliam (talk) 22:13, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Dispute
You claim that an unincorporated community is not official unless listed at http://www.dot.state.mn.us/maps/gdma/maps-county-alpha.html

It is not written in stone that the last site mentioned is the final authority on what is or is not an unincorporated community. At Wikipedia, we rely on a diversity of WP:RS.– Gilliam (talk) 01:50, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

I do agree that if one of these communities is within an incorporated place it can either be redirected or renamed. However, when a community, whether unincorporated or ghost town, is independent of an incorporated place, it is inherently notable. Policy at WP:GEOLAND tells us "Populated, legally recognized places are typically considered notable, even if their population is very low. Even abandoned places can remain notable..."– Gilliam (talk) 01:58, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Rich Valley does not exist period. It is the suburban city of Rosemount. Wescott does not exist period. It is the suburban city of Inver Grove Heights. If you google up Rosemount, MN, or Inver Grove Heights, MN, then click on the incorporated map that Google includes with every city entry, you will clearly see that where your GNIS "pin" drop is located at (for your extinct communities) is clearly located within the present day city limits of a very populated suburban city in a growing metropolitan area. – Agritech6 (talk) 02:11, 11 May 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.112.175.54 (talk)

Okay. Like I said, if a community is proven to be within an incorporated place, it shouldn't be called an unincorporated community and may be redirected. However, do not redirect unincorporated communities without discussion no matter how small, despite what the State of Minnesota says or what you consider insignificant.– Gilliam (talk) 04:48, 11 May 2015 (UTC)