User talk:Agupte

Dear Agupte, welcome to Wikipedia. Here on wikipedia, we usually only have one article on each topic. So please try to make Wizo (videorecorder) a good article, rather than adding multiple articles on the subject to Wikipedia. I redirected both articles you created to that page where I placed your text and changed the formatting a bit. Good luck editing on Wikipedia.Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 11:52, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I was confused because I changed the original link and the first page disappeared.

Thanx, Anil Gupte

BTW, how does one change the title of a page? For example, Wizo (PVR) instead of Wizo (videorecorder) and also Mazalgaon instead of Majalgaon.

Thanx, Anil Gupte


 * Dear Anil, changing names is not possible on Wikipedia, except by Administrators. It is only possible to moves pages to another name, leaving a REDIRECT page on the old location. It advise you to be cautious with moving pages, since you are still new as an editor. For example, Google clearly shows that Majalgaon is much more common (10000 hits) than Mazalgaon(100 hits). Therefore I advise you not to move the page, but to make Mazalgaon a redirect page to Majalgaon. You can do this by adding just the text " #REDIRECT Majalgaon " to Mazalgaon. Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 12:10, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on L3 Internet TV, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group or service and which would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add  on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. --Boffob 12:16, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

L3 Internet TV Withdrawal
I withdrew this article which I started. However the reason I am withdrawing it is not the one it was originally deleted for. I am withdrawing it because after carefully reading the criteria for inclusion, the article does not meet the "notability" standard (strictly interpreted) as mentioned by several critics here. It really was trying to be a presentation of a new approach to Internet Video - something that would have been valuable to many people. It was definitely not Spam (I provided no links to any commercial implementations of the technology). Certainly the article was more valuable than the articles on Joost and Babelgum (no ground breaking technology or business model), TVUnetworks, Zattoo (just advertising for their service) and many others in the same area.

A question about notability. It appears that notability is being interpreted as notoriety. Just because something has news articles about it, does not mean it is notable - in fact fads and temporary phenomena are likely to generate a lot more news initially than something truly notable. If a technology has been vetted by people of note, it surely deserves to be on Wikipedia, even if there are very few articles about it in the news. It would be very useful for example to someone who was researching the latest developments.

Perhaps it would be appropriate for people with knowledge of that field to critique it, and then go through a review process before being arbitrarily deleted by someone who does not understand the implications and nuances of the technology.

Your thoughts?

Notability
Notability in the wikipedia sense tries to be an objective, an easy way to measure that is if it has third party coverage, that is if the rest of the world believes the item is notable then there will be coverage. You also have to consider what an encyclopedia is, it isn't a place for providing ground breaking new coverage or original research. Our basic principle is that what is written must be verifiable and attributable to reliable sources. Wikipedia is not meant to be a primary source for anything, if you can't find it elsewhere it shouldn't be in wikipedia. I've put a standard welcome template below which has more links off to the basic policies like neutral point of view etc. it is worth looking through this stuff, particularly the five pillars. --pgk 09:00, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

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Sorry it turned out feeling punitive. Sometimes the discussions on Deletion Review can be very contentious, and some of the folks who close Deletion Review discussions can be very deletionist. I actually don't think pgk is a deletionist primarily, but there's definitely a certain kind of article (and yours was one of them) that tends to set teeth on edge. I think the discussers could have approached it in a more inclusionist manner and run less risk of turning of you off from contributing to Wikipedia. I think a lot of folks here, especially the jaded, look for a certain kind of new eagerness to join Wikipedia but forget that there can be folks who are intelligent and enthusiastic who are not deliberately trying to troll but who set teeth on edge anyway, and they tend to write us off. I was almost one who left under similar circumstances. I'm still not sure how long I'll stay, but I'll try to do good while I'm here. Better luck next time, and I'm hoping there is a next time - that you'll dust yourself off and try again with something perhaps a little less controversial. --MalcolmGin Talk / Conts 17:04, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

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