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Nomination of Pakistan Broadcasters Association for deletion
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Pakistan Council for Science and Technology moved to draftspace
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 * This Redlist index will help me alot! Many thanks. AHatd (talk) 12:10, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

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Time to disclose paid works, like Dingtone, etc.
Hello Ahatd. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

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 * 86.24.42.66, thanks for heavy lifting mate. You caught a really big fish! I'm being paid to edit all pages I edit, lol. Just recently got hired by WP:WiR to create biographies of women. Idk how to disclose COI, Why don't you come over with your original account and guide me to do so... I'll be very thankful for such a kind act. Till then I'll be continuing my paid work, with my current employer WP:WPWIR. Your thankful, A hat  e  d  ( talk! ) 18:25, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Prince (2022 film)
Hello, Ahatd,

Please do not give instructions to an inexperienced editor on speedy deleting a main space redirect to replace it with a declined Draft article. The draft is in no shape to be moved to main space and I blocked the editor from this page for a few days. You probably should have checked out the Draft article before recommending it be moved to main space. Thanks. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 06:45, 11 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Liz, I accept I never checked the draft, which is my bad. But I never recommended them to move declined draft to the mainspace, but shown them the right way to do so. I saw them struggling to understand cut/paste moves and right way to move the page, and edit warring another editor, so I told them how they can do (what they intended to do) in right way. Thanks. A hat  e  d  ( talk! ) 07:06, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Kiran Naz moved to draftspace
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 * Thank alot @DIVINE. Never realized my mistake until I saw your message. I was actually surfing the internet to find notable female Pakistani anchors, and creating a userspace page for them, just to save it as future reference. Thanks for correcting my mistake... Cheers. A hat  e  d  ( talk! ) 13:28, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * It's alright. Your article is not removed just because it is moved to the draft. On the draft page, you can expand your article before submitting it. DIVINE (talk) 13:34, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

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<div class="user-block" style="padding: 5px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; border: 1px solid #a9a9a9; background-color: #ffefd5; min-height: 40px"> Your account has been blocked indefinitely for advertising or promotion and violating the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use. This is because you have been making promotional edits to topics in which you have a financial stake, yet you have failed to adhere to the mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a form of conflict of interest (COI) editing which involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is strictly prohibited. Using this site for advertising or promotion is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, please read our guide to appealing blocks to understand more about unblock requests, and then add the text  at the end of your user talk page. For that request to be considered, you must: GeneralNotability (talk) 23:00, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
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 * State clearly how you are being compensated for your edits, and describe any affiliation or conflict of interest you might have with the subjects you have written about.
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 * Don't worry, there's more to the block than your failed attempt at sarcasm. I've also got a job ad for the creation of Büşra Duran Gündüz, which went up a little before you created that article, so I think there's a little more here than "just happened to meet them". GeneralNotability (talk) 01:16, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * GeneralNotability, I hope that your " a little before " is not only earlier than April 19th, 2022 (when I first created/started this draft), but also earlier than 14th April (when I became autoconfirmed on tr wikipedia, after only editing her page there). BTW I can also create advert, asking someone to block User:Ahatd on Wikipedia (obviously, will have dates, "a little before" of this block), will that be deemed enough evidence (let's just leave credibility aside; as you did) to block you or strip off your admin rights?
 * Secondly, if I'm not wrong, you just accepted that my reply to that anon (not sure if it was you or someone else idk) static IP was sarcastic, not a self admit? So was it right to use that as a blocking reason? ( "Undisclosed paid editing in violation of the WMF Terms of Use - self-admitted..... )
 * Lastly, can I be given permission to edit this page, the way I can edit this talk page? Thanks. A hat  e  d  ( talk! ) 21:07, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * User:Daniel Case, But per below has changed since then??? A hat  e  d  ( talk! ) 21:16, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I would put it in a new unblock request. Daniel Case (talk) 01:52, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Daniel Case actually I was bit frustrated at that moment. Now I realized that my comment was unnecessary. Sorry if I bothered you. Thanks. A hat  e  d  ( talk! ) 20:14, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. (But, per custom, another admin will have to review your new request). Daniel Case (talk) 22:00, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks :-) A hat  e  d  ( talk! ) 10:39, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @GeneralNotability, I don't think @Ahatd self-admitted in any way that they are being paid by someone. The article that you are mentioning above came into my attention long ago and I had reported it on our Global Anti-Spam Dashboard and it was deleted from everywhere. It was first deleted on Wikidata and then restored according to Wikidata policies (when Ahatd brought forth a discussion on administrator's noticeboard). But these are completely different things. Nothing suggests that Ahatd is "self-admitting" the paid editing. You might want to change the block rationale as I don't know what is there in the VRT ticket. ''Just a note that I came here via this AfD. Best, ─ The Aafī   (talk)  18:02, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

@Blablubbs, your whole argument is nothing but trying to give some reasoning to the GN's original block. Just be honest, and tell me if normally this rationale (suspected COI and your curiosity) be enough for you to block someone on Wikipedia? If no, then, is declining a unblock request coherent with that?

Ok now let's get to answers of new rationale you brought up:
 * Suspected COI; That spam looking creation of Büşra Duran Gündüz on multiple versions (TR, MS, UR) was in retaliation (though it was wrong, I realized it later and stopped that spammy behavior) of a wrong speedy deletion on the TR Wikipedia page by Sabri76 (with a year long recreation protection even when page was only created once, and deletion of my userspace page as well). Knowingly that the page never deserved to be speedy deleted (which was also in fact with par with many related pages there on tr Wikipedia), along with deletion of my userspace page and recreation protection, It all looked personal to me, in anger I decided to create it on other language spaces (even created userspace page on English Wikipedia, but was not sure if it'll pass an AfD here). But it caught an eye of TheAafi & team and they in a coordinated efforts deleted these all pages and Wikidata item (which was later undeleted after being brought to AN attention). If page hadn't been deleted this way on tr wiki (speedy deletion, Recreation protection and userspace page deletion), I don't think I would've even tried to do all this mess. (*_*)

A hat e  d  ( talk! ) 10:46, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Satisfaction? to Curiosity; Well, I believe you also know that every language space has it's own notability guidelines, and there is no generalized notability guidelines over all language versions. So, your statement, "....notability is highly dubious at best.", nothing but a useless waffle. I think if you would've bothered to look into my ur Wiki contributions, you must've been known to the fact that I started and limited my contributions on UR wiki to a page (OK, this time a organization), whose "notability will be highly dubious" for you at the best, and then slowly started to edit elsewhere.
 * Further Clarification; To clarify things further –  whenever I find anything interesting, I either create English Wikipedia page for it, if it doesn't qualify WP:N here, I look for other languages I know and publish about it on most relevant Wikipedia language version, and just in case if it doesn't qualify any known version's notability guidelines, I tend to publish it on Wikidata (most loose notability guidelines). It's not exact thing, but I tend to follow it.
 * Languages I speak/understand/write; Apart from 4 mentioned above I also do speak and write Hindko, Punjabi and Pahari, speak and understand Pashtu (Hazarewal accent) and Hindi (also learning to write it), understand Farsi and Arabic to an extent, and learning mandarin as well.
 * Thanks; Lastly, I'm thankful to you, unlike others, you at least tried to give a reason to this block.
 * Having seen the ad, and evaluated surrounding factors that I have outlined above, it is my sincere belief that this is a good block (i.e. yes, one that I would likely make myself given the totality of the evidence). If I'm wrong, then I sincerely am sorry, but I am not willing to lift this block. You are welcome to make another unblock request, which will be evaluated by a different admin. --Blablubbs (talk) 12:10, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Blablubbs, I still respect your opinion about the block, even when you avoided answering the questions I raised about the credibility of the ad and ignored my answers to your "evaluated surrounding factors". Coz it happens with all of us at some point, when we approach things with some certain view and mind, contradictory views and facts seem trivial and unnoticeable to us. As GN is not interested in answering my queries and you've also seen that ad, I'll ask you to answer my queries. Thanks.  A hat  e  d  ( talk! ) 08:35, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

What I'll do after getting unblocked
 * Will try to find sources about these journalists and publish notable of them, into the mainspace.
 * Will continue my efforts to save notable articles in AfDs (specially related to Women and Pakistan)
 * Will try to learn more about templates, userboxes etc here in English Wikipedia (in my userspace) so I can help improve them on Urdu Wikipedia.
 * I enjoyed RC patrolling using twinkle and RW, so will continue RC patrolling after getting unblocked. And will try to become Rollbacker and Recent Changes Reviewer.
 * Will like to get back that greyish Urdu link in languages sidebar (for articles not existing in Urdu language), to easily and conveniently translate articles.
 * Will not follow the blocking admin for at least 6 months, even in good faith.
 * Will discuss this edit with User:Fazal Deen.

And many more thing to do. A hat e  d  ( talk! ) 17:43, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

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