User talk:Ahecht/Archive 4

Draft: Angel Musical Instrument Co., Ltd.
Hello, Ahecht.

Thank you so much for your reply and your clarification.

As you said, all the references for my article are from notable South Korean independent newspapers or media, so now I am more curious why the previous review declined to get the draft published.

You're very kind to allure Korean using editors to barge in to my draft. Is there any way I can do to get more Korean speaking editors to review my article? There is not enough newspaper article written in English either on the Internet or in books.

Thank you again!

Jack — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salesangelco (talk • contribs) 08:17, 11 February 2015‎ (UTC)

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 * You might want to ask one of the editors listed at Category:Translators ko-en if they'd be willing to vet your sources. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK

Thoughtless edit summaries!!
Thanks for calling me out on that silly edit summary (the one on Aladdin) - the vandalism I was correcting WAS especially annoying (without going into the background), but of course that is no excuse whatever. I do try to remain civil at all times, if only because being rude is more often counterproductive than otherwise.

I'm afraid that I am messaging you here about a very much more serious instance of my doing exactly the same thing. Yesterday I had to remove vandalism from the Hiri trade cycle article. For cultural reasons (which again it would be tedious of me to go into) this vandalism was very obnoxious indeed (for a second or two I had a new understanding of the feelings of an aggrieved fundamentalist) and I posted an absolutely dreadful edit summary. Not in English, fortunately, but it will still be intelligible to some of the people likely to be especially interested in the article concerned. I won't translate it, but suffice to say that it is still really bothering me and I badly want to expunge it! Do you happen to know if this is possible, and if it is what I should do about it? Regards -Soundofmusicals (talk) 23:42, 1 March 2015 (UTC) PAGE ]]) 23:47, 1 March 2015 (UTC) PAGE ]]) 21:21, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the mea culpa. You can request the edit summary be revision deleted (see Revision_deletion), but I'm not sure if an administrator would revdel an edit summary for something like this (although it doesn't hurt to ask). --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK
 * Appreciate your help on this one. I have contacted a likely looking administrator - we'll have to see what transpires. Sometimes I despair of myself, I am really old enough to know better.--Soundofmusicals (talk) 00:13, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It happens to the best of us, but the internet has the unfortunate side effect of sometimes making our transgressions more permanent than we would like. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK

User:Ripcurlkim/sandbox
Hi, don't quite know what happened here. We appear to have edit conflicted. Bellerophon talk to me  21:18, 2 March 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 21:19, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yup, you probably loaded the page before I moved it, so your cleanup restored the old version. I've had it happen a couple of times. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK
 * No problem, all sorted now :) Bellerophon talk to me  21:21, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

adding hatlines
Hi Ahecht, Just wanted to thank you for helping out with the two Andy McKee pages. That was just the help I needed! Be well...Alfhild-anthro (talk) 23:03, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Uh, I meant hatnotes, not hatlines. I'm learnin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfhild-anthro (talk • contribs) 23:08, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

About the UIBE disambiguation page
Hi, Dear Antony, Please let us know why there is disambiguation in UIBE.

Those two university not quite the same to refer to each other and just have difference in location. And why should we tolerate

https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&site=&source=hp&q=university+of+international+business+and+economics&oq=university+of+itnerntaion&gs_l=hp.3.0.0i13l10.1111.5499.0.6612.30.16.1.0.0.1.655.2666.3-4j0j2.6.0.stareytweb...0...1.1.62.hp..25.5.1624.0.WSoZQQz5ILY

It's quite clear every one in the Internet search for UIBE will direct to us. The all google pages directing to us except for your creating the disambiguation pages.

Here is our website http://www.uibe.edu.cn/. The title never confuse with any location names and we with the SUIBE are both Chinese university. We have the registered trademark for "University of International Business and Economics" in China since 2005,in Education services,It's effective trademark. SUIBE shouldn't using our breviation of full english names in anywhere.

Please refer to:

http://sbcx.saic.gov.cn:9080/tmois/wszhcx_getDetailByRegInt.xhtml?regNum=5015534&intcls=41&seriaNum=10&codeShow=9514

As trademark NO.5015534.

And SUIBE is distinct different with us. All the search page in GOOGLE could show that the users search for "University of International Business and Economics" is going to us and there isn't any confusion. Please let us go back to our legitimate page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hades1011 (talk • contribs) 14:37, 5 March 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 16:45, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a means of promotion or search engine optimization. Wikipedia's disambiguation guideline clearly states that "any article with an ambiguous title should contain helpful links to alternative Wikipedia articles or disambiguation pages, placed at the top of the article". The point of a Wikipedia article is to help readers find the information they are looking for, not to promote any particular organization or institution. Your continued attempts to remove mentions of "Shanghai University of International Business and Economics" from hatnotes and disambiguation pages is a violation of Wikipedia's Conflict of Interest guideline and Neutral Point of View policy. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK

MarKreationsStudios1
how do I change my user name? MarKreationsStudios1 (talk) 22:00, 6 March 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 22:11, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * See Wikipedia:Changing username. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK

I do not understand why my current username is not valid. I have had this account for a while now, so why now do I get this message? MarKreationsStudios1 (talk) 23:12, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * Wikipedia is run by volunteers. You got the message now because nobody noticed it until now. The policy on usernames that appear to represent an organization or group have been in place since at least 2007, if not earlier. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK

Soft Robotics article review and Talk Back on Help Desk
Helle Ahecht - Today I found a talk back button on my talk page (talk). However, clicking it I was not able to find your response nor my original request for help regarding the Soft Robotics article. Can you please help me?

Thank you so much. SirJamesHunt (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:05, 8 March 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 20:18, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The message was archived here --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK

Shanghai Disneyland Park
I think you might be mistaken about which edit I did on Shanghai Disneyland Park — 198.24.31.125 added an exact opening date of December 10, 2016, but the cited source only says 2016, so I reverted the edit. Trivialist (talk) 23:54, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * Oops, my bad, I must've set up the diff backwards. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK


 * No problem. :) Trivialist (talk) 00:12, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

grateful for your response
I am sincerely grateful for your response. Although I am very disappointed, I understand your points. I used what I was given, on good faith. I was told by them, they are not computer people, that those academy awards were not listed on-line, however being a computer person I figured that I should be able to find them, and then I spent many long hours if not days looking for it (and other references) on-line. Unless they can come up with links for the academy awards, which they  should be able to,  I think I'll retire from this very arduous project. Thank you. SincerelyCaryl Jean 23:10, 16 March 2015 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artistsfind (talk • contribs)

Hello Ahecht. The page I am attempting to create is noteworthy as is the artist. Bonham was the first American Visual Artist to be appointed to the Royal Canadian Academy. In 1997, he was awarded the Alex J. Ettl Grant from the National Sculpture Society, for lifetime achievement as a sculptor. Doesn't this make him noteworthy enough to be be on Wikipedia? Best Regards Shawn — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sburke33 (talk • contribs) 17:57, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

17:59:19, 18 March 2015 review of submission by Sburke33
Hello. The page I am attempting to create is noteworthy as is the artist. Bonham was the first American Visual Artist to be appointed to the Royal Canadian Academy. In 1997, he was awarded the Alex J. Ettl Grant from the National Sculpture Society, for lifetime achievement as a sculptor. Doesn't this make him noteworthy enough to be be on Wikipedia? Best Regards Shawn

Sburke33 (talk) 17:59, 18 March 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 18:39, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * None of those awards automatically make him notable, he must still meet the standards of WP:GNG or WP:ARTIST. If he is noteworthy, there should be plenty of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article. Once you have cited such significant coverage, and you have sufficient in-line citations to meet our biographies of living people policy (which also covers recently deceased people), your article can be approved. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK

correcting AfC declines
Hi. Saw you're work on correcting those messages (and had a couple of others contact me directly). Was there an issue yesterday? Or did I do something incorrectly? Onel5969 (talk) 02:14, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * It was my bad. I screwed up my update to the Afc decline template, despite all my tests in the sandbox. One of the sub-templates didn't play nice when substituted onto talk pages. I think I was able to correct all the talk pages that were incorrectly flagged in the short time the template was misbehaving. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK
 * I take back what I said about being able to fix all the talk pages, I just found another batch. Hopefully that's all of them. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK

Can you use copyright material if the subject is the source and gives permission
I wrote an article Howard Morgan, a member of the board of the World Press Institute. The material is from the WPI web page. Mr. Morgan authorized his biography. I am a staff member of the WPI. I see no problem with using the material. He wants it on Wikipedia. Please advise — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dstonewpi (talk • contribs) 20:14, 19 March 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 21:21, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Technically yes, you can (see WP:Donating copyrighted materials for instructions). However, most information on organizations' websites is designed to be promotional, and therefore isn't written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. You're much better off rewriting the information from a neutral point of view, making sure that the text refers to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

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Request on 13:20:41, 23 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Naamam118
Hi Ahecht (<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">TALK PAGE ) Thank you for taking the time to reivew my article submission Draft:Dynamic Mindset Advertising (DMA), your feedback is highly appreciated. You mentioned that the proposed article does not have sufficient content to require an article of its own, but it could be merged into the existing article at Woobi. I do understand your direction to associate it with Woobi, as several of the references cover Dynamic Mindset Advertising implemented by Woobi/TokenAds, however, Woobi is a company implementing Dynamic Mindset Advertising in it's range of products - but DMA is a name of an algorithm, a technology, one that is introducing new standards of user-targeting to the in-game advertising industry, and does not refer to a specific product. Is there any information that may be missing which can be added so that the article would be able to stand on its own? Thank you again so much for your kind support and assistance!

Naamam118 (talk) 13:20, 23 March 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 14:02, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You would need to cite significant coverage in reliable sources that show that companies other that Woobi are using that term. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

Request on 08:12:39, 24 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Armourae
I've been able to provide a few more references. The 2 best references remain St Lawrence's Church history section and the Friends Reunited page for the Convent. Information is limited due to the recall of the nuns to France in 1989 & the lack of archived information in Britain. There are similar pages of limited notability eg Category:Defunct_Roman_Catholic_schools_in_England & 'Holy Trinity College Bromley' However limited notability is common to specialist or non-populist subjects. There is an increased interest in the Convent as noticed by an increase on a few social sites. The specialist nature of the school justifies an interest in documenting its cultural, religious and social historical impact

Having searched Wikipedia there isn't a page on the Verona Fathers, St Lawrence's, the Marist Fathers connection with St Lawrences or that a relic of the Catholic martyr St Peter Chanel is at St Lawrences. Therefore for the benefit of researchers and students on saints, martyrs and denominations I would suggest that I expand on these subjects under the St Joseph's proposed page. Since the subjects overlap with eachother then merging them into one page would be preferable to multiple pages

I've confirmed a vague memory that I had, that a fairly famous poet was an alumni of the school. Fleur Adler is best known for her poem about the school! Probably due to the final line being memorable 'My knickers fell down in the snow'

Armourae (talk) 08:12, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Request on 14:44:09, 24 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Wesi0107
Dear Ahecht, I'm the author of the draft:Philine von Sell for which you declined the submission. For I'm not exercised in the English Wikipedia (I'm a German author) it would be great if you could lend me a hand.

For you to know: I'm also the author of the German article "Philine von Sell" and now performed the English translation of it (because Philine von Sell is well-known by many people in English speaking countries) to be linked with eachother. I just adapted the references par for par from the German article. Now I'm not sure which of them are not okay and why (the helping pages you linked are not easy to understand for me). Could you please help me? That would be great, thank you!

Greetings from Germany --Wesi0107 (talk) 14:44, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Wesi0107 (talk) 14:44, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The German Wikipedia may have different policies regarding biographies of living people, but the English Wikipedia in practice requires all statements of fact about living people to be backed up by an in-line citation. Currently, your biography section only has one in-line citation in the middle of your second paragraph, so it's not clear where the rest of the information in that section was sourced from.

Article decline
Hi what was my article on "DEFINITION OF FORENSIC INVESTIGATION & THE TYPOLOGIES OF FINANCIAL CRIMES" Declined. Is there anyway I can get it posted? Thanks

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Osanograham (talk • contribs) 14:06, 25 March 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 14:55, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Your article just seems to define Forensic science and Financial crimes. Instead of creating a new article, you would be better off adding information to improve those two. There isn't enough significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article to show that your topic is notable enough separate from Forensic science and Financial crimes. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

Request on 23:07:01, 23 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Armourae
With reference to some other primary schools & religious topics on Wiki which are no more than stubs, I have so far expanded the article with additional research plus adding details of religious orders for which there isn't existing WIki article plus the closely related defunct secondary school for which there isn't an article, unlike other defunct secondary schools, despite greater media coverage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Armourae (talk • contribs) 12:20, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

UPDATE: I propose to merge the article with the page you suggest plus a precis version added to the Sisters of Religious Education page in English & French Wiki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Armourae (talk • contribs) 05:53, 28 March 2015 (UTC) UPDATE: I've received a reply from Rome & Normandy. I'm expanding the article with additional info regarding the religious orders directly and secondarily related to the convent and the political history that lead to its creation. With regards to the religious Orders there is only info for the Marists on Wiki. Thanks for reviewing the article. I will try to obtain further references, although this may be tricky due to lack of online references and that the convent was abolished over 25 years ago. The reason for the submission are: 1. There are other pages describing similar defunct schools under the appropriate section, and many are only stubs, partly caused by the similar problem of schools closing down decades ago and nothing appears to be archived.

2. The lack of information concerning this school which existed for 88 years deserves greater information 3. The unusual cultural influences makes this school worthy of historical research: French nun teachers ages only 16 & 17 founded a school in England. The pupils were daily exposed to a foreign culture and language, which would be unusual in England and a rich artistic religious environment: the music, paintings, statues. This was combined by a surprisingly libertarian & spiritual instead of ecumenical theology.

4. The 4 references are independent: a local government site, a church, Friends Reunited  as the greatest source of information from surviving pupils & an IMDB page.

Any further reference pages are likely to be scarce. I have made a couple of ecclesiastical enquiries to try to find further info, but it is likely that the only futher sources of information on the Convent itself will be related to pupils on Friends Reunited.

If there is anything else I can do to satisfy inclusion requirements I will be glad to comply

Armourae (talk) 23:07, 23 March 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 13:07, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
 * For schools that aren't (currently) secondary schools, as well as for organizations and places of local interest, it should only have its own Wikipedia article if significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article exists. If you can't find enough such sources to justify the notability of the article, you could add information on the church and school to the Education section of Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Southwark. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

I have been able to provide a few more independent links. Many stubs have no or only one independent link. There are 2 significant independent online sites: St Lawrence's Church site provides information & the Bexley Council site provides photos with additional notes. I have received a reply from Rome which has directed me to where to obtain further details. This information will be archival and anecdotal and so will not have online sites unless I upload photocopies or write an article from the authorities I'm arranging to speak to I've also supplied a few links to the notable alumni Fleur Adler a fairly well known published writer and poet who's most famous poem is about the Convent

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Armourae (talk • contribs) 13:24, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

LOAF HOMEWARES
Hi,

Was just hoping for a bit more feedback on the page I posted, it's here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Loaf_%28homewares_brand%29

I understand that it reads too much like an ad...if we went with something like this:

'''In 2008, having found buying a bed problematic, Charlie Marshall decided to launch The Sleep Room. Marshall's aim was "to make the shopping experience as hassle-free, affordable and as speedy as possible". He used funds from the sale of his previous company, Primal Soup, in order to fund the £350,000 start-up costs. The Sleep Room rebranded to 'Loaf' in 2012 after expanding the product range to encompass furniture for the whole home.

In 2013, Loaf was ranked number 40 in The Sunday Times Virgin Fast Track 100[6]. Later that year Peter Simon, founder of Monsoon and Accessorize, invested in the company taking a significant minority stake for an undisclosed sum.

The company currently has over 60 employees.'''

Would my chances of it being accepted be improved do you think?

Kathryn — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.218.146.186 (talk) 09:43, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * That still sounds like ad copy. Something more neutral would be:

"Charlie Marshall founded The Sleep Room in 2008 using £350,000 in funds from the sale of his previous company, Primal Soup. The Sleep Room rebranded to Loaf in 2012 after expanding the product range to encompass furniture for the whole home." PAGE''' ]]) 13:34, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

03:36:26, 29 March 2015 review of submission by Artsandculture
Artsandculture (talk) 03:36, 29 March 2015 (UTC) == Artsandculture (talk) 03:36, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * Simply put, unless other people are writing about your magazine in reliable sources, it may just be too soon for it to have a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia is not to be used for promotion, and only has articles about subjects that have already received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article.
 * If you are able to find enough independent sources, you can upload a cover to add to the article only after the article is approved (the cover would likely be copyrighted, so its inclusion in the article would be under fair use, which is not permitted in drafts). --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

ZS Associates Draft Article
Hi still new to the process, so would appreciate some clarification. I had been working with on some edit recommendations he made and addressed them all. Not sure if there is a second round with a different editor and that is what you are doing. Can you advise? Thx so much! SusanChana (talk) 13:26, 24 March 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 14:25, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, after you resubmitted I did a second review, and I still found that you had content which appeared to be copied and pasted from elsewhere. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK
 * I see exactly what you are referring to. I'm on it! Will get the changes made and resubmit Thx! SusanChana (talk) 14:46, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Appreciate all your patience and guidance on this. I have made the reqested updates and resbumitted. Thx! SusanChana (talk) 18:46, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

John Fox (Arranger, Composer, Conductor).
Dear Ahecht

Many thanks for your recent review of my submission. I am trying to include a page for the British composer / conductor / arranger John Fox, who passed away recently. All of the information is 100% correct, so I have tried to improve the citations / references and write in a more formal way. I hope my latest edit is now OK, but please do let me know if there is anything further I need to change.

Many thanks.

Best regards

Adam Saunders  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Audio2015 (talk • contribs) 14:29, 30 March 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 02:02, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I trust that the information is correct, but for legal reasons, Wikipedia requires that all statements about people who are either alive or recently deceased be cited using inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners or the Introduction to Referencing. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

Dear Ahecht

Thank you for your feedback. I have now included numerous published references (books with their publishing details) to support the information. I hope this is now satisfactory.

Best regards

Adam Saunders — Preceding unsigned comment added by Audio2015 (talk • contribs) 10:48, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Request on 16:54:14, 6 April 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by 122.172.89.13
122.172.89.13 (talk) 16:54, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Regarding TestOptimizer - Continous Automation Tool page Review
Hi Ahecht,

Thanks for sharing feedback on my creation. I am beginner in writing as well as for putting my post/writeup in wikipedia but I really want to learn this art of writing, thus re-submitted the creation after incorporating changes suggested by you. Kindly share your comments to make it better.

Thanks again, ~richa --122.172.89.13 (talk) 16:54, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Edits
Hello,

I believe I followed the policies for citing the addition to the messiah complex page. I don't understand what it incorrect. You refer me to the Wikipedia page but I don't see a mistake.

Arosiles — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arosiles (talk • contribs) 08:30, 10 April 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 12:25, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Please refer to WP:BRD. You added a section listing people with a messiah complex (Bold), I removed it (Revert), and now you need to reach a consensus for adding it on the talk page (Discuss). Also, a blog post is not nearly a reliable enough source for making potentially defamatory claims about people. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

Draft:Children of The Atom (UK)
Hi, can you be more specific? I need this page up ASAP as it links to the election box which displays the party colours on various wiki pages, BBC website etc, otherwise it defaults to grey.

Many thanks Childrenoftheatom (talk) 19:52, 15 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Because Wikipedia should not be used for promotion, there is no rush to get this article approved. The templates you created for making the color white and providing the short name will work whether or not the article is approved (and I'm not sure how the existence of a Wikipedia article affects the color display on the BBC website). If the name of the party appearing in red bothers you, I can create a redirect from Children of The Atom (UK) to List of political parties in the United Kingdom until your article is approved.


 * Wikipedia does not have, nor need, articles about every political party registered with the UK Electoral Commission. Your organisation must meet the requirements of Notability (organizations and companies) in order for an article about it to exist on Wikipedia. All articles on Wikipedia need to show significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article. You can click on all the blue links in the previous sentence for specific explanations of how Wikipedia interprets each of those terms, but list entries are not considered significant coverage.

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 * Also, please see the note I left on your talk page about your username. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

bold=no
I understand the need to match the status quo "You have new messages", but I don't see the rationale for forcing bold=no for the change proposals, especially considering that the text is more legible in bold. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  23:55, 20 April 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 00:59, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Feel free to change it back to bold. I changed them only because (a) the template didn't support a bold=no parameter before, so I assumed putting them in bold was an oversight, and (b) the proposal only talked about changing the color, not the font weight. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK
 * Done, and also changed #555555 back to black for the B and C options. Significant improvement in both aesthetics and legibility. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  02:28, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Mute page declined
Hi I wanted my page to be a disambiguation page for "mute" which lacks a page on the remote control feature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chloetj (talk • contribs) 18:34, 22 April 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 00:45, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe you don't understand what a disambiguation page is. A disambiguation page is a page that lists possible articles for an ambiguous term, such as the article found at Mute. The disambiguation page links to normal articles.
 * That said, I don't think that the mute function on a remote control is notable enough for its own article (and really, "mute" is a function of the television, not the remote control). You can edit the Remote control article to add pertinent information on mute functions, but most of the info you had in your draft was already present in that article. Wikipedia is not a dictionary, we don't need an individual entry for each button on a remote (or each key on a keyboard, etc.). --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

Percival Savage/sandbox
did you mean to leave this in main namespace? Fiddle  Faddle  14:54, 23 April 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 14:56, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'm testing how the templates behave in mainspace. I plan to G7 it when I'm done. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK
 * More power to your elbow. I suggest an ambox at the top to avoid interruption. Fiddle   Faddle  14:57, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Less than helpful and more arrogant than anything....
Instead of being helpful all you were interested in was being judgmental because you thought that the subject was not important enough to be on Wikipedia. I find you and your arrogance extremely distasteful. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sburke33 (talk • contribs) 17:21, 23 April 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 17:25, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the second personal attack. I never said that the subject wasn't "important enough" to be on Wikipedia, just that it didn't meet the requirements of Wikipedia's notability standards for biographies. Also, your draft wasn't deleted because of any judgment that I made, it was deleted because you violated Wikipedia's policies by copying and pasting copyrighted text from http://www.donbonham.com/bio.html. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

You are welcome. I didn't know we had minimum standards for notoriety on Wikipedia. I guess that thirty years of hard work and the many awards as well as publications, both public and private, do not meet the minimum standards. It is truly a sad comment on the bias and inherent favoritism displayed on Wikipedia. Oh and so you know the facts I have permission to use that Bio. I am his son who was trying to give the old man his due on what I use to respect and call the best website on the internet: "Wikipedia". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sburke33 (talk • contribs) 17:49, 23 April 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 18:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia goes by what other people say about the subject. If no reliable sources are talking about this person, then Wikipedia won't either. That's the fault of the reliable sources, not Wikipedia. If he has won "significant critical acclaim", and you can document it with links to reliable sources, that should qualify him under the guidelines of WP:AUTHOR. If you wish to use content that you wrote for donbonham.com on Wikipedia, you can do that by following the instructions at WP:Donating copyrighted material. You can also have the last draft of the article before it was deleted emailed to you by requesting it at WP:REFUND. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

Multijurisdictional Counterdrug Task Force Training
I edited the page "Multijurisdictional Counterdrug Task Force Training" per your guidelines. I believe I removed everything that is not completely encyclopedic-sounding. It is short and to the point. Briansmith451 (talk) 13:06, 22 April 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 14:20, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm still not seeing any citations significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article. In order to qualify as independent, the source cannot come from the Florida National Guard, St. Petersburg College, or the U.S. Department of Defense. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

I don't understand. I used the Department of Homeland Defense (which is not part of the Department of Defense). I used United States Congressional testimony and U.S. Code as a reference. MCTFT is literally in the law books and mandated by Congress! Regardless, I added a references from the Attorney General of Florida, University of Hawaii, Fresno City College, University of Vermont, Senator Mark Allen, and the National Institute of Drug Abuse. Please tell me this is enough!Briansmith451 (talk) 19:08, 22 April 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 01:07, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Please click on Independent sources and read the definition. If the MCTFT is a FLETC then it is affiliated with Homeland Security and Homeland Security is not an independent source. The congressional record of the earmark that funded the MCTFT is also a primary source and not independent. The source from the University of Hawaii is a PDF document that was created by MCTFT, so it cannot be independent. The sources from University of Vermont and National Institute of Drug Abuse are announcing events that they were planning with MCTFT, so that isn't independent either. Those sources are fine for verifying the information in your article, but they don't show notability.
 * The Fresno City College and Mark Allen links are to a directory entry (the Mark Allen page is just the acronym and a URL), which doesn't meet Wikipedia's definition of WP:SIGCOV.
 * Notability is typically found in newspaper articles, journal articles, and books from recognized experts. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

What about the Monroe County Sheriff's Department who hosted a training event and blogged about it (http://floridakeyssheriff.blogspot.com/2012_11_01_archive.html). The sheriff's department is notable since it's the primary law enforcement agency in the Florida Keys and it is independent since it doesn't hold a financial or legal relationship with MCTFT. Also, what about DVIDS. It is notable since it is the primary video and imagery distribution system for the US military.It is independent since it doesn't hold a financial or legal relationship with MCTFT. Obviously, both the MCTFT are part of the DoD, but thousands of organizations fall under DoD and have no legal or financial connection what so ever. Would more of these types of references suffice?Briansmith451 (talk) 15:11, 23 April 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 15:42, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Please read Independent sources. Any organization that hosts an event with MCTFT and then writes about it isn't an independent source, since they are writing about an event that they are involved with. Because they have an interest in promoting the event, they have a conflict of interest. Just because it is a third-party source doesn't mean that it's independent. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

I actually have read the Independent sources, several times now. No matter how carefully I read it and no matter how smart I may be, I will not automatically understand how every possible example holds up to the Wikipedia policy. It will take time and dialogue to grasp all the nuances of the policy to the degree you may understand it. That said, I understand and agree (albeit reluctantly), with what you stated up to now, but I'm really trying to tighten my shot group and provide references that satisfy Wikipedia's policies. Since I'm finding no concrete reference/example in Wikipedia's definition of independent sources, could you please tell me how hosting an event for the MCTFT and then writing about it automatically makes a sheriff's department not an independent source. Are they permanently and inextricably involved with MCTFT because they were on the receiving end of a one-time short training event? If they received the same training by watching a recording of it on YouTube, would they still be involved? They never worked with MCTFT before, haven't worked with MCTFT since, and despite what you said, they have no interest in promoting the event (if you can even call blogging about it promoting). We have had news reporters go through our training and then report about the training on live TV and in newspaper articles (which I'm trying to find). By going through the training, are the news reporters automatically 'involved' with MCTFT and thereby disqualified as an independent source? I would argue that since a news organization depends on ratings, their reporting is much less of an independent news source than a sheriff's department that has absolutely nothing to benefit by blogging about training received. BTW, in your last post you didn't respond to my question about DVIDS. It is notable since it is the primary video and imagery distribution system for the US military.It is independent since it doesn't hold a financial or legal relationship with MCTFT. Obviously, both the MCTFT are part of the DoD, but thousands of organizations fall under DoD and have no legal or financial connection what so ever.Briansmith451 (talk) 17:42, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Also, here is a great story by an actual newspaper (Bangor daily News) discussing how the Bangor Police used MCTFT training to combat a drug epidemic. This has got to be considered independent.Briansmith451 (talk) 20:24, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Disneyland Forever article was deleted by you
Sorry to inform you this,but this time I'm not giving unreliable source.Disneyland Forever Fireworks is TRUELY a upcoming fireworks show which will be shown on May 22nd .If you decide to delete this article,less people will know about the diamond celebration.It is very important to the Disneyland resort.Disneyland Forever is not unsourced,so please don't delete that again,but you are free to add more information of the show.Thankyou for your understanding.

Regards, Jason Chak — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jason Chak (talk • contribs) 11:57, 29 April 2015‎ (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 17:07, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I never said that it wasn't truly an upcoming show, nor did I say that you gave an unreliable source. What I said is that you provided NO sources at all, whatsoever, in the article you wrote. Please review WP:V] and WP:CITE. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

Jason Chak
Hello.Thankyou for editing.Sorry for adding the wrong source.Thankyou for your understanding and I would provide the right source next time.

Would you like to view some of my pages?Tokyo Disneyland Electrical Parade: Dreamlights — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jason Chak (talk • contribs) 11:58, 29 April 2015‎ (UTC)

Disneyland forever got deleted again
This is the second time that you deleted the upcoming source and information.Please check back the Disneyland resort's website because that show is planned to launch during Disneyland's diamond celebration.I have seen and spread the source,just because I haven't added any references into the article and you did not know anything about the real upcoming show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jason Chak (talk • contribs) 23:12, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

PAGE''' ]]) 00:33, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Please read Reliable Sources before complaining to me again. You NEED to cite reliable sources. We can't just take your word for it. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

Apology
Hey there again.I wrote this to apologize for being so rude to you just now.Also,I want to ask for reliable references.The article has been remade already,and I also added some pieces of references.Do you think they are reliable?Please reply.Thankyou.

Regards, Jason Chak — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jason Chak (talk • contribs) 09:47, 30 April 2015‎ (UTC)

PAGE''' ]]) 14:11, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Unforunately, your draft was still missing independent sources. I worked a bit on expanding the article and added a bunch of independent sources, and I moved it from Disneyland Forever (fireworks spectacular) to just Disneyland Forever, since the disambiguation on the end of the title isn't necessary. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

Vanina Takvorian
Hi Ahecht,

So you think, my article is not clear ? In fact, Vanina Takvorian is involve in selling the château of Marquis de Lafayette and is involve in Hermione organisation and the memory of the history in commun between France and USA, so How can I write it in a less confusing way. Could you advise me, you, that you have a lot of experience ?

Thank you Bichonneau — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bichonneau (talk • contribs) 17:26, 30 April 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 18:50, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Not only was that not specified in the article, it wasn't mentioned in the sources. You also don't need more than a sentence or so about those sales, since readers that want to know more about the Marquis or Hermione can find that information in the articles for those subjects. You still need to show that Vanina is notable by providing citations to significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED from famous places she's sold. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

Dear Ahecht,

I understand all what you said, but first of all, you didn't see all the 12 references ? At the end of the page which justify all the facts ? Then if you go on the page of Hermione or Marquis de Lafayette, it doesn't tell you the news, that hermione left France 10 days ago and is coming back to USA and everything I said in my page ? about the sell of his chateau which is really unique as it didn't happen for 25 years and the copy of the boat which cost $ 27 million to build in 20 years etc......

Thanks to help

Bichonneau — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bichonneau (talk • contribs) 19:56, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Dear Ahecht,

I simplify the page; Do you believe it is better now ? Or incomplete, will it be rejected an deleted by the administrators ?

Could you add some color or make some better paragraph ?

Thanks for your precious help

Bichonneau — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bichonneau (talk • contribs) 20:22, 30 April 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 20:25, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * There are two reasons for citations: verifying the information and showing notability. While some of those sources are fine for verifying information, none of them are the significant coverage of Vanina Takvorian in reliable sources that are independent of Ms. Takvorian that would be required to show notability per the standards of WP:BIO. The nestseekers and luxetv links are from her companies that she's affiliated with, so they're not independent. The europusa.com article is an interview, so it's not considered independent (independent sources show what other people say about the subject, not what the subject says about themselves). The YouTube link is to a video produced by the subject of the article, so it's not independent either. None of the other links cited mention Ms. Tokvorian at all, so they're not significant coverage. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

Dear Ahecht,

I understand, so it will be deleted, how can I remove my request to be review?

Thanks Bichonneau — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bichonneau (talk • contribs) 20:35, 30 April 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 20:40, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ I removed it from the review queue for you. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK

thank you

Bichonneau — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bichonneau (talk • contribs) 20:42, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Dear User: Ahecht

I put only 3 articles from independent sources. i remove all the rest as you suggested. Then I simplify the text in its maximum. I would like to take a chance for someone to review it as I am surrounding Mrs Vanina Takvorian in NYC and she is doing so much for the community and for the friendship of France and USA using her work etc..... So I take the chance to be review. Maybe I can pass this editing process thanks to your help and cooperation. Could you advise me more ?

I really would like het to be in Wikipedia as she is a model of integration and immigration in USA.

Thanks for your help

Bichonneau — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bichonneau (talk • contribs) 21:12, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

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20:02:53, 4 May 2015 review of submission by 65.8.66.169
65.8.66.169 (talk) 20:02, 4 May 2015 (UTC) Thanks Ahecht for the review, advices and for your time. I removed the subjective words (renowned, icon) and backed up with the reference of the worldwide publications of the artwork in a new note (ref 2), I also added a inline citation to back up the worldwilde publications (ref 12). I'm still trying to find a way to include a pic of Pascal Lecocq with his signature painting, help appreciated.

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deltaDNA article
Hi. Thanks for reviewing my submission on the subject 'deltaDNA'. I've made the changes you suggested, cutting right down on the citations. I had referred to the references accepted for other companies in the industry but had also though the more the better - sorry, rookie error I guess! — Preceding unsigned comment added by LouSea83 (talk • contribs) 16:11, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Cartoon Network (Middle East & Africa)
Hi Ahecht, do you know anything about this article or its subject? Once upon a time it was Cartoon Network (Europe) and has inexplicably changed to Middle East and Africa. As you've noticed, I'm sure, I'm PRODing it, although I'm guessing it'll wind up going to AfD. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:38, 4 May 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 20:47, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm as confused as you are. I mostly got involved here because an editor moved it 20-30 times over the last few days, and I was trying to clean up the trail of breadcrumbs they left all over the main and Wikipedia: namespaces. As far as I can tell from the article and its numerous names, the single European feed was split into individual country feeds, but some parts of Africa continued to receive the unified feed. Whether EMEA, MEA, Middle East and Africa, Africa & Cyprus, Africa, Europe, or some other title is appropriate is beyond me, and frankly I'd rather see them all rolled into List of international Cartoon Network channels or a similar all-encompassing article. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK
 * I ran it by Geraldo Perez who suggested the PROD. I was influenced by your comments at Disney (Asia) on the ridiculousness of having all these off-shot articles. They typically provide no useful info, tend to get clogged with unsourced show lists, blah blah. I'm preaching to the choir. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:52, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Related: I've opened a discussion about this at WikiProject Television, and you are invited to comment! Also, I suspect that the article mover might turn out to be Finealt. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:30, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

New question raised regarding Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton/April 2015 move request
Some opposers of this move have now contended that there is a "Critical fault in proposal evidence", which brings the opinions expressed into question. Please indicate if this assertion in any way affects your position with respect to the proposed move. Cheers! bd2412 T 04:34, 8 May 2015 (UTC)