User talk:Ahenke

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Hello, Ahenke, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Kirk Yano, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may soon be deleted.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Kirk Yano
A tag has been placed on Kirk Yano requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles – see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion, or "db", tag; if no such tag exists, then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hang-on tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:39, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

October 2010
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Kirk Yano, a page you have created yourself. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, you can place a tag on the page, under the existing speedy deletion tag (please do not remove the speedy deletion tag), and make your case on the page's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Feedback
I have responded to your comment on Talk:Kirk Yano, but as it is likely that page may not be around long enough for you to see my comment, I am including it here as well:
 * Recording engineers are not generally notable unless their recording efforts have made some identifiable impact on the music or recording industry at large. This does not appear to be the case for Yano.  Also, if your teacher has asked you to write a Wikipedia page as a class assignment, you should direct your teacher to review School and university projects for proper guidelines on how such projects should be conducted.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:08, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Transcluded from Talk:Kirk Yano
The following conversation is copied from Talk:Kirk Yano as that page is likely to be soon deleted:
 * This page should not be deleted because Yano has influenced multiple genres throughout history and across the globe. Who else has worked with punk rockers, hip hop legends, and jazz gods? Also please leave this up for 24 hours as I was forced to write this page for a class assignment. I recognize the nature of such assignments is detrimental to the quality of Wikipedia but I did not want to argue with my teacher and receive a suffering grade. Please show mercy and leave this article up for a short bit longer so that I might receive credit for it. In the mean time we should open our minds and think about how this may become a permanent mainstay in wikipedia's lexicon of knowledge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahenke (talk • contribs)
 * Recording engineers are not generally notable unless their recording efforts have made some identifiable impact on the music or recording industry at large. This does not appear to be the case for Yano.  Also, if your teacher has asked you to write a Wikipedia page as a class assignment, you should direct your teacher to review School and university projects for proper guidelines on how such projects should be conducted.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:07, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yano's impact is actually quite significant. The song "Poison" was one of the best selling tunes of the 1990s and laid the framework for the sound of most R&B over the next ten years. These songs all included Yano's characteristic single-microphone stereo sound technique which he developed while working with Cleveland radio station WMMS. I think if we give the article time more facts will come to light. Ahenke (talk) 14:35, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * As the article has been deleted, you are free to recreate it in your user space and continue to improve it with citations to sources that verify your claims of his importance. When I searched on Google for Yano, I found no significant results, but you may have better success. Until you can provide some reliable sources, please do not recreate the article in the main article space.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:58, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Two things to add to that:
 * The requirement for a Wikipedia article subject is called notability, and to demonstrate it you have to show "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. The point is that we don't decide what is interesting or important; we ask, have other people, independent of the subject, found it important and significant enough to write about.
 * As well as WP:School and university projects, ask your teacher to read User:Jbmurray/Advice. School projects can be rewarding, but they need preparation: one problem with using Wikipedia like this is that no article is owned by its first author, or by anyone else; any article may be edited by anyone, and we cannot accede to pleas to leave an article unaltered until it has been marked, or to delay deleting one which qualifies for speedy deletion.
 * Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:56, 19 October 2010 (UTC)