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Ultras Devils
2005 was the beginning of the appearance of fan groups in Egypt, instead of going to support your team with family and friends by sitting in your seat in the stadium and make noise when the team scores only, you will go with different kind of friends who are coming not to take photos or to make a picnic, but are coming to sing for the team during the 90 minutes.

Many fan groups or clubs began to appear to support teams in home games only then the mentality improved and they began to make deplacements to the important games only.

The appearance of the first ultras banner in Egypt was in the final games of season 2006-2007, and in the next season the term "Ultras" began to spread between the fans, most of them thought that the ultras group is like any fan club but with a different name, just supporting teams by singing and travelling in important games only.

During this time, Ultras Devils group appeared and discovered many problems that face any Egyptian group and the ultras movement in Egypt "specially" that can be shorten in some points:

1- In Egypt, cops have many rights more than cops in many countries, for example; a police man can send you to jail if he thought that you are danger on the national security, he also has the right to hit you!!, so what about people who are arrested for riot in stadiums?

2-Also in Egypt, the press is not free and no one is free to express his own opinion if it was against the government in media or any place, so when an ultras group wants to make a tifo, it is very hard to enter it in stadiums because cops always think that tifos might contain messages against the Egyptian government.

3-More than 80% who go to stadiums believe that stadiums are to watch the players in front of your eyes instead of watching them on TVs, so it's not an easy mission to convince these people to stand and sing for the team.

4-Another type of supporters are people who take money from players or Clubs' boards' members to make banners and sing for them specially, and they curse who don't give them money, so how can you make a person with that mentality accepts the ultras mentality?.

5- All supporters give attention only to football team: the club is only the football team, so you have to let supporters believe that basketball, handball, and volleyball teams also deserve to support them and travel for them because they are defending the clubs' colors like football teams.

6- The biggest problem that faces the group Ultras Devils more than any other group is the group's location. The group is in Alexandria, a state far than Cairo "Ahly's" location by about 210 Km, and Ahly plays in Alexandria only 2 or 3 games in the season, so the group should make more than 30,000 Km deplacements every season which is very hard for any ultras group especially in Egypt because the economic situations don't help for this.

Despite all these obstacles, the group succeeded and became one of the greatest ultras groups in Egypt. This is how the group started:

After the creation of Ultras Ahlawy in Cairo, 6 of the AFC "Ahly Fans Club" branch in Alexandria decided to make an ultras group in Alexandria to support their team Ahly because the AFC team's role was not active in Alexandria, so they started their group with top secret and they chose that logo for the group.

The name Devils was chosen because the most famous label to ElAhly team is "The Red Devils", and every single letter in the word has a meaning.

D stands for Duty: it means that attending ElAhly games is the group's duty E stands for Evolution: it means that the group will always evaluates and improves to be from the best Ultras groups through the world. V stands for Variety: (the same as evolution). I stands for ignition: it means that the group will ignite the whole Curva. L stands for liberate: it means that they are free from any politic ideas of any organization. S stands for storm: it means that their voice in the stadium must be as strong and scary as a storm.

The group made its first banner by writing on cloth 15 meters wide and 1.5 meters length, and its first appearance was in Cairo Stadium in the CAF champion's league final in 9-11-2007.

After this appearance, the group had announced officially inaugurated with great moral support from Ultras Ahlawy and most AFC members in Alexandria joined the group and they began their first challenge because after El Ahly lost the CAF champions league title and some fans chanted against Manuel Jose the coach, the team's next match was in the Egyptian league against Ettihad Club in Alexandria ,"the group's location", and the mission was to make a tifo for Manuel Jose ,El Ahly coach, to show to him that the fans still support him with a clear message in Portuguese "MANUAL JOSE : REI DA AFRICA" that means "Manual Jose : King Of Africa" ,and despite the unavailability of experience to all of the group members for drawing a tifo but they did it, only 15 persons all of them are studying in the colleges went to pay for and worked in the tifo.

The new mission was to make their second intro outside Alexandria in Ahly vs Ismaily game, and winning that game means winning the league title, so the idea was to make a tifo drawn on it the league's shield "number 33 to Ahly" and another 8 tifos divided 4 at the left and 4 at the right, every tifo contains a letter of the word "C H A M P I O N".

The group also attended some of indoor games in its beginnings and made a message against Zamalek, Zamalek made a banner to their team "With you from 1911 and with forever". So the group made a banner with a counter message to Zamalek team "A joke from 1911, and a joke forever.

The beginning of the new season 2008-2009 seemed to be disappointing after the police rejected entering a tifo prepared by the group for the Super Cup game against Zamalek "the traditional rival", and it exceeded that limits when the police stole some sensitive parts of the tifo to waste a great effort prepared by members of the group for this match.

After nearly one month, the group made a deplacement to Port Said to attend Ahly's game against Masry team which often witness riots, the group made a normal pyroshow by 14 flares and all Ahly fans began to fight against the cops and Masry fans after some Masry fans began celebrating their team's victory beside Ahly fans.

Many Ahly fans were arrested and the media began to attack the ultras movement generally and the group especially and accused the group's members by Satan worship.

The next game was a friendly game against Roma and the group made a small banner carrying words that any ultras group dreams of.

The group members didn't give any importance for these tendentious reports and began to prepare for a tifo for Ahly's game in Alexandria that will be the last game before the African Cup final that all fans waits for to see the team playing in the Club's World Cup in Japan for the third time.

And because Ultras Devils belongs to Alexandria "a beach city" so the group looked to Ahly club a look that also reflects the city's situation, so the idea was making a warship that symbols to Ahly passing in the ocean to reach its target Japan.

The sea with its waves represents the African championship with its difficulties and ambiguity, and the boat represents Ahly team and the two sails, the bigger one is Ahly's flag and the other one is Horus' "a Pharaoh king" eye that means that Ahly's history and achievements are a part of Egyptian's achievements like the Pharaohs' achievements, and there are two ships ,representing Ahly's rivals in the champion, sinking because they are not capable enough to reach the island that represent Japan because the way to the island needs more speed, power, and endurance to reach it.

Then the Ultras movement in Egypt entered a dangerous situation with the police and the government after Ahly vs Ismaily game in Ismailia where Ahly fans lighted more than 70 flares "a record in the Egyptian movement", about 20 of them was done by Ultras Devils.

The group also made a banner carrying all Ahly fans true feelings toward Ismailia state.

As a result, it became difficult or impossible to establish any tifo in Cairo, and the only solution for the group was to make tifos in all Ahly games in Alexandria.

During this time, Ahly team lost many points in the league after it was on the top of the league with more than 10 points difference with the team in the second place and the fans began to cancel attending the games and the next game was in Alexandria against Olympian club, so the answer was very simple and written in Arabic letters to be clear to all the fans:  a TV covered by the wrong sign and a message meaning "Stop TVs and support Ahly in the stadiums"; in addition to, a banner containing a song that says " It's audience is it's shield …in sweet and bad moments with it…I'll never love except Ahly…nothing except it makes me happy…always with it until the end of world… my life underestimates for Ahly".

The idea reached everybody and was quickly widespread between Ahly fans and all the Ahly fans websites used the tifo and the message in any notification for any game the team needed fans. To conclude, the success of the tifo was in carrying an important message in a simple form.

One of the biggest deplacements ever was travelling after the team from Alexandria "North Egypt" to Assiut "South Egypt", a distance about 700 Km. A distance that some groups couldn't travel to support their teams.

After the league derby game against Zamalek in Cairo, the group waited in a rest before returning back to Alexandria which coincided with the rest of Marine Corps "Ultras White Knight's, the group supporting Zamalek, section in Alexandria".

There was a clash between the two parties in the rest and UD members undressed Marine Corp's leader "who calls his mentality a barra brava mentality" his underwear and stole a full set from the section starting from shoes till caps.

The Egyptian final league games was very competitive between Ahly and Ismaily and the game before the final was against Haras El hedood in Alexandria; during that time, some TV programs tried to give false reports about Ahly's history, so the answer was a choregraphie tifo written on it Ahly Club's creation year 1907 and between it the old club's logo with a message meaning: "1907 the beginning of our glory in the Egyptian football and after 102 years the king will not give up his throne".

The group played a prominent role to maintain the right of Ahly fans in Alexandria to get at least half of the tickets for the decisive match against Ismaily in Alexandria after the club's board has decided to put all the tickets of the game only in Cairo, and the board responded to the demands of the group and launched 60% of the tickets in the city of Alexandria.

The group decided to make another tifo in the decisive game but this time it was expected to cover all Ahly fans seating, but at usual the police refused to allow entering the materials to prevent the group of ending the season with a tifo that was possible to be the best achievement in that wonderful season where the group made about 31,483 Km deplacments between football, basketball, handball, and volleyball.

After the end of the season, the members began thinking of expanding the group and agreed to create the first section in Zagazig, the section's name was chosen to be "Devilz", and their first appearance was 21-7-2009 in the Super cup game Ahly against Haras El Hedood in Cairo.

The Egyptian league this season contains 16 teams, 10 of them are teams of institutions and companies and only 6 public clubs. So group tried to make an action in the first game in League 2009-2010, by posting a message "Welcome to the Companies' league" and about 30 attenders carrying different messages most of them against modern football, but the cops insisted to begin that season with the group like the previous season and refused to enter the message and most of the attenders because the fans in Egypt are not allowed to reflect their points of view against modern football!!!!.

The message was delayed and in the second league game, the group members passed most attenders from the wall of Arab Contractors stadium and made an action in that game.

The group prepared a tifo to appear in Portsaid, the idea was drawing the way to the stadium and busses carrying fans going to the stadium with a message "The Journey will never end" and in Arabic "We follow it in every place".

But the group's bus stopped in the way and took much time to fix it, so the group arrived late to Portsaid's stadium and while the cops were looking in the tifo, they made a big cut in the tifo, so it was the third tifo for the group that didn't saw success because of the cops.

The 2 messages that were prepared to appear with that tifo appeared later in another game.

The league had been stopped for a period, because the Egyptian national team had to play an important game in the World Cup classifications, and was resumed with an away game in Mansura, the game that saw the first tifo this season for the group and the first ever for section Zagazig.

The tifo was the 3 Egyptian pyramids drawn in digital dimensions, almost equal to the original dimensions, and the sun highlights the three pyramids. In front of the pyramids, there are 8 cups and shields between local, continental, and regional champions like Egyptian league, Cup, and Super cup, and CAF champion's league, cup, and Super, and the Arabic champions cup, in addition to, the team's bronze medal in the Club World cup in Japan 2006. The previous champions were drawn in big dimensions due to the multiplicity of accessing them and the big number of the Championships that reach 107 Championship. The combination between the pyramids, which shows the great history and glory, and "some" of Ahly's champions to ensure Ahly's great history and glory that points to Ahly as the fourth pyramid and the only sporting pyramid, the message was" Ahly: 107 Champions .. A sun that champions never set away from it, and a history the history will celebrates it".

Beside this intro, there were riots in the game between Ahly fans and the cops and 2 members of the group were arrested.

The first game Ahly plays in Alexandria this season, the group's members were ready as usual to welcome the team in Alexandria "which became Ahly's state".

The message was a coreo carrying a simplified message in Arabic meaning "We sacrifice with our souls for it"..."Always with it".

The tifo's success was not only in sending the message, but was in how to write a coreo with 4 Arabic words "the first group in Middle East to do it" in a small curva like Alexandria stadium's one.

The derby game against Zamalek in Cairo was after 5 days only from this game, but the group made a very difficult equation for an ultras group with this ability that makes more than 30,000 km deplacements every season.

The group made a tifo in the second half quoted from a scene in a previously derby game written at the top "Ahly above all" and "We said before: Shut Up" at the button with two banners "Our Passion" and "Just Ahly".

After the derby game, the group decided to make a cortege to Ismailia, the two groups Ultras Devils and Ahlawy went in a train but the president's son decided that this game will be played under the title of "In the love of Egypt", so the cops decided to stop the train before entering Ismailia and the 2 groups entered the stadium in the minute 30 in the second half.

The recent banner:

The group also made 2 grafities, but this method is not widespread in Egypt yet, because some people like to spoil other's work just for fun.

To sum up, all the previous actions were done from a group its members' age range is from 18 to 23, most of the members are students studying in schools and colleges. The group does't accept any financial help except from group members and Ahly fans.

The team's home games are away games to the group, but the group's member make this number of deplacements not only for football games, but for other games beside making these tifos and great actions.

To conclude, this group doesn't talk very much, but makes achivements people can talk about. Every simple message they said was not just words, it contained very deep meanings like the message that said "The Journey will never end"

Some of the group's proucts:

1-First t-shirt

2-Recent t-shirt

3- Suit shirt:

General Pictures: