User talk:Ahunt/Archive31

scope
not sure i might havegone over the scope - with ships with sails - my recent edits - watcha think? JarrahTree 12:49, 5 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Not sure what you mean there! Can you give an example? - Ahunt (talk) 13:51, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * 16:55, 5 February 2021 diff hist +39‎  Category talk:Sailing ships of Italy ‎ Assessment: Ships, +banner shell, +Sailing (Rater) current rollback: 1 edit
 * 16:54, 5 February 2021 diff hist +5‎  Category talk:Sailing ships by country ‎ Assessment: Ships, +Sailing (Rater) current rollback: 1 edit
 * 16:54, 5 February 2021 diff hist +99‎  Category talk:Sailing ships of Ireland ‎ Assessment: Ships, +banner shell, +Sailing, +Irish Maritime (Rater) current rollback: 1 edit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Age_of_Sail_ships_of_the_United_States

are some ... just very sensitive to the brain spillage style of adding projects..

there are ships who can only function by sail - so the connection

JarrahTree 14:05, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

I probably have referred to my aversion to 'water sports' creeping into sailing issues - but then when I look at the article sailing - the lead para has in the tex distinct inclusion of sailing ships - just that few project taggers have bothered in the past - felt that a check was needed, but the more I look at the original scope/intent - its no big deal, just so few have ventured - as far as I can tell JarrahTree 14:16, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

That looks fine to me! - Ahunt (talk) 14:17, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

MayaForeignLanguageCorrespondent
Hello,

I am still inexperienced with Wikipedia, but I would like to change that quickly and take part in improving, expanding or creating texts. My passion is languages. I am also a long-time companion of the company founder "Hybrid Airplane Technologies GmbH" and participate in projects as a freelancer. I have proposed future changes to be evaluated as paid work and thus disclose that I carry out adaptations on the relevant pages "H-Aero" on behalf of "Hybrid Airplane Technologies GmbH"--MayaForeignLanguageCorrespondent (talk) 21:45, 5 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks for stating that. So as per WP:COI, you need to stop editing the articles associated with H-Aero and instead propose changes on the talk pages for neutral editors to evaluate for inclusion. - Ahunt (talk) 22:42, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

This might be interesting to you
See https://news.bellflight.com/en-US/167709-instagram-of-the-month-major-brian-lundy. BilCat (talk) 03:24, 9 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Good story! Yeah we have trained the JDF pilots for decades. I trained along with some of them back in the 1980s. - Ahunt (talk) 03:33, 9 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I thought you'd like it. I got there from this story about the JDF buying JRXs. They seems to love those Canadian Bells. BilCat (talk) 03:49, 9 February 2021 (UTC)


 * They always have been a very small organization with a mixed fleet of mostly seized aircraft, but it now looks like they are moving to a more unified fleet. They do mostly anti-narc and SAR work. - Ahunt (talk) 13:44, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!


Jampresident (talk) 02:43, 12 February 2021 (UTC) 

Gallery
Hi! I have a plan to put pictures decriptions later. Can I add gallery with descriptions? Like in Women's suffrage in New Zealand? --Nickispeaki (talk) 23:30, 12 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note. WP:GALLERY is pretty clear on this: A gallery is not a tool to shoehorn images into an article, and a gallery consisting of an indiscriminate collection of images of the article subject should generally either be improved in accordance with the below paragraphs or moved to Wikimedia Commons. Generally, a gallery should not be added so long as there is space for images to be effectively presented adjacent to text. It is not the lack of captions but just using a gallery to "shoehorn" more images than would fit in an article. Also the images you had in that gallery were all pretty much non-encyclopedic, other than the one I salvaged. We don't need closeup photos of the cabin doorstep, or the cockpit headliner and so on. These might belong in an aviation trade publication's detailed review, but they don't belong in an encyclopedia article. - Ahunt (talk) 23:40, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Forces on sails
Hi Ahunt, there is a discussion at Talk:Forces on sails that you may be able to contribute some insights to. Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 14:18, 14 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Sure, let me have a look. - Ahunt (talk) 14:35, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Edit review
Hi Adam, could you look at this edit? I reverted it primarily because it was unsourced, but it's also quite confusing and confused. Two of the problem phrases include "inline engine configuration" (The engines look to be side by side to me), and "the exhaust gasses were instead pumped out the sides and not into the helicopter's rotor wash" (Huh? The exhausts are still under the rotors!). To be honest, sometimes aerodynamics isn't as intuitive as I think it should be, so this could all be correct. Either way, it needs sources to remain. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 23:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Probably best to remove it as unsourced. I have no idea what he means by "inline engines" as, yes, they are mounted side-by-side, with the exhausts ported to each side. While it is true that the exhaust would not be disbursed in forward flight in this configuration, as the rotor wash goes back, his assertion that western helicopters of the same period disburse exhaust gases into the rotor system is not true, see the OH-58 Kiowa, UH-1 Huey or UH-1N Twin Huey for instance. This is not a simple issue, either, as routinely putting the hot exhaust gas into the rotor on an on-going basis can cause blade delamination. In a hover the Mi-24 exhaust gases would be quickly disbursed, however.- Ahunt (talk) 23:49, 21 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks. It's amazing the things people add to Wikipedia. I should have kept a list somewhere! BilCat (talk) 00:08, 22 February 2021 (UTC)


 * LOL, that could be a long list! - Ahunt (talk) 00:14, 22 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Here's another gem! You can't make this stuff up - Oh wait, they did make it up. :) BilCat (talk) 22:02, 23 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Well that was almost brilliant grasp of the obvious. - Ahunt (talk) 22:27, 23 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Time for a small memory wipe for that... -Fnlayson (talk) 23:23, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Entwicklung und Erprobung von Leichtflugzeugen aircraft
Good afternoon. Besides a grammar error, I don't quite understand the purpose of the Category:Entwicklung und Erprobung von Leichtflugzeugen aircraft. Would you please be so kind to enlighten me? Thank you. Regards --Uli Elch (talk) 12:32, 22 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note, but I don't understand your question. It is a category for aircraft built by that company, Entwicklung und Erprobung von Leichtflugzeugen. We have categories for most aircraft manufacturers, like Category:Boeing aircraft. - Ahunt (talk) 12:44, 22 February 2021 (UTC)


 * It feels a bit strange that there is no article in the company's "home WP", de:WP, and it is only very briefly mentioned. There is no "Handelsregistereintrag", registration, for that company in Germany. Additionally, all links in the article here appear to be dead. Thank you for your reply anyhow! Regards --Uli Elch (talk) 20:59, 22 February 2021 (UTC)


 * What's the grammar error? BilCat (talk) 21:38, 22 February 2021 (UTC)


 * It certainly is a small company - or was, as it seems to have disappeared. I will update the article accordingly. - Ahunt (talk) 22:08, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

LifeHacker
Hello friend. The argument that LifeHacker is unreliable comes from RSN. Was a small 2020 discussion with a 2 to 1 consensus that it was unreliable. That's not a huge consensus though, so I won't revert. – Novem Linguae (talk) 14:06, 2 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note here. Yes, that is not a very conclusive discussion. Regarding the ref itself, it seems well researched and written, so obviously the writer has some knowledge of the subject. I also removed the "primary sources" tag, as the article has dozens of other, third party sources. - Ahunt (talk) 14:13, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The high number of GitHub citations gives me WP:DUE weight concerns. – Novem Linguae (talk) 14:59, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, those are WP:PRIMARY, but there are many third party refs cited as well. - Ahunt (talk) 15:14, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

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Happy anniversary!
@Ahunt: I've been aware of your editing since we both worked on Chrome OS, ahead of any hardware implementation. With Google announcing the 10th anniversary of the Chromebook, it seems our efforts have now extended beyond a decade! Would that all social media output were this sustained, productive and civil. Best, Barte (talk) 22:25, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey, great to hear from you! Yes, it has been great collaborating with you over the last decade on that series of articles. I think one of the biggest differences between Wikipedia and purely social media is here we are working towards a common goal, to create the best and most accurate encyclopedia ever and it looks like we are doing that. I tend to think of us as being congenial colleagues, kind of in the same way as if we were working in the same department at a university or similar. Everyday here we seem to prove that collaboration works. I look forward to many more years of it. - Ahunt (talk) 22:54, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Good analogy: I completely agree. Barte (talk) 00:07, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * - Ahunt (talk) 00:11, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

"truly awful quality photo"


I was just about to ask your impression of that photo! I missed that that was the photo which they added, or I'd have removed it myself. (I was merely removing the funky px sizings, but didn't actually look at the image first. I removed it from another article yesterday, and one today also.) For some reason, that user has been adding it to multiple pages. Perhaps they're visually impaired? I can't see why anyone would think that's a good photo. BilCat (talk) 20:14, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Btw, is "truly awful quality photo" a valid reason for deletion on Commons? Or would I be racist for nominating it? BilCat (talk) 20:18, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Well Commons has many better photos of that person and also a policy that says Reasons for deletion ... Files that add nothing educationally distinct to the collection of images we already hold covering the same subject, especially if they are of poor or mediocre quality. So I would say it can be sent for a deletion discussion there under that criteria. It seems that the editor who keeps trying to insert it all over en.wikipedia is also the person who uploaded it to Commons, although it is a public domain USAF image. - Ahunt (talk) 21:36, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * From the photo gallery that image is taken from, most of that batch is too dark to be really useful. (And yeah, I noticed the same user had uploaded it.) I don't know if any of our WP:AIR resident photo gurus (Fox and Marc) can improve the images or not, or if we should even bother asking. Most of those photos don't show all that much interesting anyway. I've seen much better cockpit and aircraft interior photos than that batch. For example, these 2 from a n RAAF C-17 cockpit are much better, especially the views and angles, but then the C-17 has "eyebrows" which let in more light. If we had some like those that were of the CoS instead, that would be worth keeping. BilCat (talk) 21:55, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I don't think it is needed anywhere, really. As you note there are better photos and the Aircraft pilot article has sufficient photos anyway. I don't see any application for the initial photo discussed here - it is only a good photo of a shoulder, nothing else. - Ahunt (talk) 22:07, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * He'd also added it to 22nd Air Refueling Wing, where it is perhaps more relevant. But again, not that particular photo. BilCat (talk) 22:13, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Except that the subject is head of the USAF, not even a member of the 22nd Air Refueling Wing. The most amazing thing about that photo is that it not only fails to show the person, but also fails to show anything about the aircraft. It ought to be deleted. - Ahunt (talk) 22:35, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I stated "perhaps" because I figured a wing or squadron would be pleased to have a CoS visit and fly one of their aircraft. Granted, this isn't "their" page, but a good photo could be illustrative of such a visit. BilCat (talk) 04:41, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Welcome template

 * Yes, that is a welcome message that I left on your page. Not sure what your question is or point of posting it back on my page through. Perhaps you can elucidate? - Ahunt (talk) 17:50, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Question
Is there a simple way to make a user box appear really big? Something like a wrapper that I can just put the userbox's name into. I have one I'd like to make big enough to go across the top of my user page for a few days. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 00:33, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

It's this one: User dst 3 BilCat (talk) 00:41, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi Bill: LOL, topical! I just tried a few experiments and may have it. The size of a user box is determined by the size of the text and the image, so if you take the coding and make those adjustments you can get:

Feel free to adjust the image (id) and the font size (info-s)!

Coding to use for this is:

 

- Ahunt (talk) 13:09, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I found Userbox-w, which is a bit wider, amd copied in the same coding. BilCat (talk) 18:23, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Oh, good. Always more to learn here! - Ahunt (talk) 19:05, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I find it useful to check the template page for instructions, see also links, etc. I don't always understand the more intricate coding, butnI usually learn enough to break things! BilCat (talk) 19:20, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "Trial and error" is more fun! - Ahunt (talk) 21:45, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


 * If I'm doing it, there will still be errors, and then come the trial! :) BilCat (talk) 06:43, 15 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Or a more Kafkaesque turn. - Ahunt (talk) 11:51, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

"Vacuum-bagged" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Vacuum-bagged. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 15 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 14:31, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, ✅ - Ahunt (talk) 14:43, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Seeking Input on Original Research Issue
Hello and thanks again for working with me on edits to the Google Chrome article. I hope all is well. At the moment, I'm working on edits to an article that I think has an issue with original research. Before taking it through official channels, I wanted to run a summary of the issue past you, and a handful of other editors I also respect, to check my thinking on this and gauge what consensus might look like.

Here is a summary (and you are probably only about three clicks away from the article if so motivated):
 * 1. A college student conducted research into a major company that uncovered lax security practices that needed to be corrected.
 * 2. The student self-published the research on a blogging platform and got a lot of attention. He also admitted to taking up a short position on the company’s stock and stood to make money proportionally to how much his story could depress the price of the stock.
 * 3. A major business newspaper ran a story on him and described the problems his research revealed about the company.
 * 4. The Wikipedia article about the company has a weighty section that references the student’s self-published story almost exclusively.
 * 5. I’m seeking to build a consensus that: the self-published article is OR and shouldn’t be used as a source. The controversy can and should be mentioned, but should be limited to what reliable sources published about the student’s research.

It seems to me that without relying on the legal teams and journalists behind quality sources, Wikipedia becomes vulnerable to short sellers who smell blood in the water and seek to inflate negative stories, even in the short term, just to boost a short sale.

Given the admission of short selling the stock and the self-published nature of the source, would you agree that the self-published article should be disqualified as a source in favor of the reputable newspaper's version? Thanks again and looking forward to your feedback. SBCornelius (talk) 15:36, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Well that is a fun story, alright! Yes I agree with you. His self-published paper is WP:SPS and should not be used. The controversy, as covered in WP:RS should be covered. These two policies greatly reduce the chances that Wikipedia would contribute to the stock dropping in value. - Ahunt (talk) 18:11, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for addressing this so quickly. It seems obvious to me, but since I have COI here, I wanted to validate my thinking with multiple people and there seems to be agreement that this isn't right. Would you have any objections to me pointing to this discussion when I bring this issue up on the article's talk page? I don't want to pull you into anything, but I would like to show that I have done my homework. Thanks again. SBCornelius (talk) 16:23, 17 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Sure, feel free. I stand my my comments! - Ahunt (talk) 17:11, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Too promotional?
Hi Adam, could you looks at these two edits? While not citing primary sources, the overall tone and size of the additions seems to weighted to me. Am I just being nit-picky? thanks. BilCat (talk) 22:01, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I was just looking at those same edits and thinking the same thing - they read like the marketing department wrote them. Go ahead and remove them, if you like. - Ahunt (talk) 22:03, 17 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Done. BilCat (talk) 22:19, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Help plz!! Issue w/citation
Hi! I know you’ve reached out to me before, and I don’t really know anybody. I mostly do grammatical edits, but I want to fix (mostly, add citations) some articles now.

I’m getting an error OVER AND OVER, and this help page was no use :-/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Cite_errors/Cite_error_ref_too_many_keys

Please see my talk page or else the article/subsection to which I’m trying to add ref #23/immediately after existing 22… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_taxes_in_the_United_States#Aviation_fuel_taxes

TIA!!! Gobucks821 (talk) 15:12, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * UPDATE: Thanks. I swear I tried EACH section w/and w/o quotes. Thanks again! I tried adding the dispute tag because that section seems outdated entirely, per that same source. Apparently I used it wrong? If you can advise/do proper use, I’d appreciate. Either I will amend or just to let others know it appears erroneous. Gobucks821 (talk) 15:31, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * No problem, drop me a note anytime! The ref error was just a quotation mark issue, as you can see where I fixed that. I also fixed the "outdated" template and implied a few tags, too. - Ahunt (talk) 15:34, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you Adam for taking care of my ham-fisted editing on the Audacity (audio editor) page, very much appreciated. As you were carefully and skilfully adding a citation to my recent change, I was trying to do the same and failing badly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter H Sampson (talk • contribs) 13:22, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No sweat, collaboration works! - Ahunt (talk) 23:46, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

"60i" listed at Redirects for discussion
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 * Answered there. - Ahunt (talk) 16:49, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Gossamer Condor photos
Hi Adam. I just looked at the MacCready Gossamer Condor page and noticed that someone has swapped out the previous photos of the Condor and substituted photos of the Gossamer Albatross II instead! I would go in and try to revert or otherwise correct this flaw, but: • I'm a relatively inexperienced Wikipedia editor, and • Since I'm mentioned on the page, it might be improper for me to edit it in any case.

I notice in the talk on that page that a couple of other people have noticed the defects in the photos too.

Thanks for your help! Bryan

Bryanlallen (talk) 23:40, 24 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note on this. I have switched the image back to File:Gossamer Condor.jpg. That said we seem to have an issue with file naming at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Gossamer_Albatross and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Gossamer_Condor Perhaps you can help us identify which of the duplicate photos are which aircraft? - Ahunt (talk) 23:58, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Adam. Thanks for the quick work!

Yes, the photos are a bit of a mess.

On the page "Category: Gossamer Albatross" the first photo (in hangar) is of GA II, 2 & 3 are correctly labeled, photo 4 (ground crew) is of GA II, photo 5, 6, and 7 are of the channel-crossing Gossamer Albatross (wing ribs and other details give it away), the SVG file is a mess and mostly in the imagination of the artist, and the ninth photo is GA II (NASA logo plus wing ribs gives that away.)

On the page "Category: Gossamer Condor" the first JPG (a drawing) is a mishmash of Condor and Albatross so representative of neither, the second, third, and fourth ones are Gossamer Condor (though the third one is a drawing of the earlier Mojave-version Gossamer Condor), and the remaining photographs 5-8 are all of GA II at NASA Dryden.

Don Monroe has photos of all the MacCready aircraft; see: http://donaldmonroe.com/

Thanks!

Bryanlallen (talk) 01:09, 25 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks. I'll see if I can get those renamed correctly. - Ahunt (talk) 01:11, 25 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Okay I have fixed the ones I can fix, but in the case of the Gossamer Albatross II misidentified as the Gossamer Condor, the problem there traces to the US Government records, where these photos come from: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/17497963 - Ahunt (talk) 23:58, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Akaflieg Braunschweig SB-5 Danzig
I looked at the WP policy concerning non-notable air accidents and my addition to Akaflieg Braunschweig SB-5 Danzig did not meet the criteria for inclusion, as you suggest. I've now come at it again, from a totally different direction.--217.155.32.221 (talk) 12:15, 26 March 2021 (UTC)


 * That is fine like that, I will just move it to the "design" section though. - Ahunt (talk) 12:28, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you
I just wanted to thank you again for your help with the aircraft specification merger it made it a lot better and easier. It's now finally finished. Take a Swedish cinnamon bun as a token of my appreciation! --Trialpears (talk) 21:04, 27 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I am glad that my input has been of some use to you. You have done great work there. - Ahunt (talk) 21:06, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Speaking of reviewing drafts
Hey Adam, ("Hey" being Southern American English for "Hi") could you look at at Draft:Truculent Turtle, specifically quality of sources and completeness of coverage? I still need to condense the body from three separate blurbs to a single organized narrative, but beyond that, is there anything you see that needs to be done? Thanks. BilCat (talk) 21:41, 27 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for you note! I had a read over it and it looks basically good, except the point-form paras need converting to prose, which is basically as you noted. The two refs are authoritative and should be sufficient to establish notability, I would think. - Ahunt (talk) 21:59, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata project Sailing
Hi Adam. As you are the most active on WP:SAIL, I wanted to draw your attention to Wikidata project Sailing. Best and thanks again for the amazing contributions on WP:SAIL. simon (talk) 02:09, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Great to hear from you, I will have a look. - Ahunt (talk) 12:08, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

See this?
See here for a double "Huh?". BilCat (talk) 17:25, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * LOL, I am not finding that in any sources I can see! - Ahunt (talk) 17:49, 29 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I didn't even bother looking for a source! Certainly not a "controversy" even if true. BilCat (talk) 20:53, 29 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Must one of those "slow news days" out there! - Ahunt (talk) 21:18, 29 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Yup. It seems the FAA inspector was late, but of course we can't speculate as to why in Wikipedia's voice. BilCat (talk) 05:50, 30 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I found a ref to corroborate that, but no reasons given. - Ahunt (talk) 11:07, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

List of Linux distributions that run from RAM
Hi. Regarding this revert, I sincerely want to avoid any edit wars or dispute resolutions, and hope we can resolve this amicably. It is my understanding that according to the guidelines about editing other people's comments, you should, "Never edit or move someone's comment to change its meaning, even on your own talk page." and it goes on to say "Cautiously editing or removing another editor's comments is sometimes allowed, but normally you should stop if there is any objection." Well, I have some objections based on the fact that the guidelines also imply that only things like personal attacks, trolling, and vandalism should be deleted. Also, I personally feel that this edit was a misinterpretation about the intention of my post since the whole idea of it was to help serve editors in their research regarding reliable sources, but I honestly feel like you had a bad interpretation of it by incorrectly implying I was promoting original research and including distros using the tool without reliable sources, which could not be further from the the truth. A bad judgement call like that could be seen as a borderline personal attack by some people. However, I did not respond to it as an attack. I responded in good faith thinking it was an honest misinterpretation, and I tried explaining to you that the intention of it was to help editors save time with researching reliable sources, and had nothing to do with OR. The response I got from that was having the entire conversation blanked, which I feel is an inappropriate response, and I would like to see the conversation restored per the earlier statement from the guideline that comments should not be deleted if there are any objections. Huggums537 (talk) 18:07, 3 April 2021 (UTC)


 * It was nothing like a personal attack. Two editors (User:Johnnie Bob and me) both removed your talk page post for the same reason, because it violates WP:TALK, as we both explained in our edit summaries: Talk pages are for discussing the article, not for general conversation about the article's subject (much less other subjects). Keep discussions focused on how to improve the article. If you want to discuss the subject of an article, you can do so at Wikipedia:Reference desk instead. Comments that are plainly irrelevant are subject to archival or removal. Your addition was removed, twice for that reason. I am not going to restore it and if you do, a third editor will likely remove it. Instructions for how to test software just do not belong on an article talk page. - Ahunt (talk) 18:28, 3 April 2021 (UTC)


 * If you say it wasn't an attack, then that can be taken on good faith. What I usually do when editors bring something like that to my attention is apologize for the misunderstanding, but you can do whatever you want. I'm not going to restore the post either. Especially not after suggestion has been made about a third editor making a revert. I've already said I wished to avoid an edit war. So, my only alternatives are to convince you to restore, or (ugh!) dispute resolution. I disagree the post violates WP:TALK. I think my intentions about it prove that I was in line with what you quoted above: "Keep discussions focused on how to improve the article." I believe my comment was in the spirit of improving the article, and should be kept in to give editors good ideas about ways they can do their own research on reliable sources and fact checking to improve the article. Huggums537 (talk) 20:04, 3 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Okay, well thanks for your thoughts on that. - Ahunt (talk) 21:42, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

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Huggums537 (talk) 01:26, 4 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Just to close out this thread for the file: the DR volunteer who addressed this DR post agreed with me that the original post on Talk:List of Linux distributions that run from RAM was off topic and thus inappropriate. He did however restore it to the talk page and then collapse it. He also stated that it was inappropriate to bring it to DR. - Ahunt (talk) 14:19, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I just wanted to say I hope there are no hostilities between us over this trivial dispute. You have been very friendly, and helpful to me just recently with the userboxes. I appreciate that very much. I only wanted to see my comment restored, and you have been gracious enough to agree not to remove it again if it was restored, and I can't ask more than that. I have no hurt feelings over this, and I hope you can feel the same way. Huggums537 (talk) 15:59, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Nope, none at all, just part of the give and take of life here on Wikipedia. - Ahunt (talk) 16:30, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, that's great news. I'm honestly not too thrilled about my comment being collapsed and labeled off topic, but as you say it's part of the give and take, so I'm happy to just leave things as they are and go back to being fellow editors again. Huggums537 (talk) 17:46, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Laser
Hi Ahunt. Why do you say my edition in the Laser (dinghy) article was spammy and promotional ? You are right there was no ref cited (I just solved that), but it's also mentioned on the "Class Association" section of the article -not edited by me- that the International Laser Class Association (ILCA) is the governing body of the class. You don't agree with that ? Best regards--Banderas (talk) 08:13, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * No in general we don't mention associations at all, unless there are third party refs and we certainly do not mention them in the lede paragraph due to WP:PROMOTIONAL. - Ahunt (talk) 13:35, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Wow!
I'm getting a headache from all the WP:BLUDGEONING. I gave a valid suggestion of a way around this, and all they want to do is wikilawyer over the fine print. Sheesh! BilCat (talk) 03:09, 10 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Yeah, WP:AXE. - Ahunt (talk) 11:45, 10 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Oddly, the user never responded to my last comments. Thanks for closing the overlong discussions! BilCat (talk) 23:59, 20 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Well I like to think that he agrees and has moved on. - Ahunt (talk) 00:12, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Because you thanked me
15:39, 12 April 2021 (UTC) Dam222 🌋 (talk) 15:39, 12 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note! We were fighting the same vandal at the same time. With both of us on the job we were staying ahead of him! - Ahunt (talk) 15:42, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

New article: Newport 212
I was looking for new articles to search through and clean up typos. I had looked through yours a few minutes ago, I wasn't able to find anything that needed to be fixed. I may keep an eye on the article and continue to fix up any typos as it gets expanded upon. Discount Horde (talk) 14:50, 23 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note and thanks for looking the article over, too. It always helps to have newly created articles checked for errors! I am hoping that this one will get expanded over time, with new refs and text as well as some photos, too. - Ahunt (talk) 14:52, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

the new black
is the dynamic between short descriptions and wikidata records

it would be great if you could offer a sample example of

the accepted standard for sailing - there are quite few possible variants

if you are ok with it, we could nut it out here or offline JarrahTree 13:35, 24 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Hey, great to hear from you! I have just been simply using "sailboat class" for all of them. Doesn't get much shorter than that! - Ahunt (talk) 13:37, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * good to see you still around in this bizarre circus - I tend to think that 'designed and built in' as a qualifier might sort of qualify as a clarity thingo, bit like the scratched perspex on old 1980s passenger stock of the time... JarrahTree 13:51, 24 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I am fine with that if you want to use that. Although if both countries are the same I would use "British sailboat class" rather that "Sailboat class designed and built in Britain", just for brevity. Personally I don't get too excited about the "short description", as I am not really convinced anyone sees them at all. I did change "sail boat" to "sailboat" though!- Ahunt (talk) 13:58, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

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You know who
Ha, met in the middle! Mutt Lunker (talk) 17:14, 10 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I saw that. Good work, high-five! - Ahunt (talk) 17:15, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

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 * - Ahunt (talk) 12:16, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Removing of reference
Why you think, removing of references is good ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shazoniz (talk • contribs)


 * See WP:SPAM, WP:SNEAKY and WP:SOCK. - Ahunt (talk) 20:40, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Murder in the Skies
Good to be speaking with you! Ahunt, I have to say that I just acquired and watched the above work, and ... it was quite good, actually ... pretty accurate. I think there is a chance they used Wikipedia as the backbone of their script! Then padded it with a lot of exciting drama, of course. We see footage of prosecutor Brice Robin, and interviews with NY Times journalist Nicola Clark. Thank-you for continuing to watch the article. —Prhartcom ♥ 04:50, 22 May 2021 (UTC)


 * LOL, well I guess we have to watch out for WP:CIRCULAR then! - Ahunt (talk) 12:14, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Germanwings Flight 9525
I just finished a few edits to the article and I'm exhilarated about how tight the Investigation section is now. Finally. Only took six years! ;-) —Prhartcom ♥ 00:56, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your work on that, it does look better. We are basically a history publication, so these things do take time, but we usually do create good articles eventually! - Ahunt (talk) 01:16, 24 May 2021 (UTC)


 * That is so well-put; I have never heard it put that way; this is encouraging to think about, thank-you, Ahunt.
 * Say, do you remember when the community was heavily editing the article, back in 2015? It took so much work—compromises and diplomacy—to improve the article back then, with so many editors with so many motivations. The changes I made yesterday would be hammered! —Prhartcom ♥ 03:32, 26 May 2021 (UTC)


 * That is the thing with current events, once they are no longer "current" interest wanes and they can be re-written into proper encyclopedic shape. - Ahunt (talk) 12:06, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Talk:Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II
Why it is ok to be closed, i am using talk page and you prevent me for using Wikipedia guidelines to even talk on talk page while I am observing guidelines. Cite parts of Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point and Deny recognition you use to justify preventing me to use Talk page in manners I have done and in same time use same rules for your editing. Who is disrupting who and where? Loesorion (talk) 22:15, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject_Aviation/Style_guide/Layout_(Aircraft)
You reverted the edit I made on Mach number/airspeeds, saying I had to discuss the change first. Can you point me to some guidance material on how to change essays on style? I was given the impression that policy on changing it was fairly laissez-faire, like wiki articles in general, on the grounds of the page being littered by dozens of edit links, and the header that states, "This is an essay on style. It contains the advice and/or opinions of one or more WikiProjects on how to format and present article content within their area of interest. This information is not a formal Wikipedia policy or guideline, as it has not been thoroughly vetted by the community." Cheers, Paulgush (talk) 02:50, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * On WikiProject Aircraft we use that as guidance material for standardizing our articles, so, yes, you need to discuss before changing it. I got "thanked" for that reversion, indicating other project members agree. If you check Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation/Style guide/Layout (Aircraft) you will see fairly extensive discussions there of pretty much all changes. Your change was quite sub-optimal, too, conflating TAS/IAS issues with issues that we have had with Mach number in the past. Sure adding guidance on IAS/TAS could be useful, but it needs to be in its own section and needs some discussion first on the talk page. - Ahunt (talk) 12:21, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Your answer, in essence, is no, you can't point to a wikipedia policy requiring discussion before editing an essay. On the other hand, after looking around, I found this: "If an essay already exists, you can add to, remove from, or modify it as you wish, provided that you use good judgment", at Essays. Paulgush (talk) 14:45, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * There is no "policy" requiring that, but as per WP:BRD, I can revert your changes as controversial and ask you to take it to the talk page. The fact that other project editors agreed means that would be the wise course of action here. - Ahunt (talk) 14:49, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, I was confused by the WP:MACH shortcut, but in light of your link to WP:BRD, I see it's so that you can have something concise to point to, like the | No Stairway sign from Wayne's World. Explaining that politely to me would have been helpful. Presuming you've had your own good faith edits reverted, you'll remember how alienating and deflating it feels. For that very reason, we need all need to remember that the "R" in BRD is not an invitation to revert, but encouragement to preserve any positive nuggets in an edit (for instance the bit on IAS/TAS you pointed out), and to revert only as a last resort. I'm glad I came across WP:PLEASEBITE today, because this exchange put me in need of some comic relief. Paulgush (talk) 17:56, 27 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm really not sure why you think it's a good idea to modify project advice/guidelines without prior consultation, regardless of any Wikipedia guidelines or policies preventing it. To me, it's simple courtesy. Rather than play the offended card, justified or not, just go to the project talk page as suggested and make your proposal. Also, it's really not up to Ahunt to keep "positive nuggets" on his own, as he respects project consensus. This guideline/advice page is the result of many long discussions, and he knows that, having participated in many of them, as have I. BilCat (talk) 19:16, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Austrian sport aircraft


A tag has been placed on Category:Austrian sport aircraft indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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 * Since the category is empty, it looks like it can be uncontroversially be deleted. - Ahunt (talk) 15:09, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Austrian ultralight aircraft


A tag has been placed on Category:Austrian ultralight aircraft indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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 * Since the category is empty, it looks like it can be uncontroversially be deleted. - Ahunt (talk) 15:09, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Let's hope...
that the IP from Ecuador doesn't discover British Army, Australian Army, et al! BilCat (talk) 21:02, 4 June 2021 (UTC)


 * LOL, I was just tracking both those IPs and both traced to the same place. I was wondering why anyone in Ecuador would be making those strange edits. - Ahunt (talk) 21:06, 4 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Probably another precocious kid who just discovered English Wikipedia! Oh joy. BilCat (talk) 21:16, 4 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Life just gets better everyday! - Ahunt (talk) 21:27, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

X-62A
Hi Adam, have you seen any source for this designation yet? I've been unable to find anything through Google. I'm about ready to revert its addition to those two articles, but wanted to ask you about it first. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 05:37, 15 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Hmm, good point. I was working from the General Dynamics F-16 VISTA article. I just did several searches and, like you, turned up no sources at all. You would think if this was the case that there would be at least a USAF press release on it. - Ahunt (talk) 11:46, 15 June 2021 (UTC)


 * The user answered on my talk page. I take him/her at their word, personally, but of course we'll have to wait until it's released publicly. BilCat (talk) 18:23, 15 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, I saw that. It all sounds logical and plausible, just need an actual citable ref to cite! - Ahunt (talk) 18:40, 15 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Absolutely! I have to go out for a bit, but if you want to upload some PD photos of the VISTA, see here and here. I plan on adding a couple of them to the artist's article, Mike Machat. If you can't upload them now, I'll do it later this evening. BilCat (talk) 19:16, 15 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Sure, I will probably leave you to do that - no rush! - Ahunt (talk) 19:21, 15 June 2021 (UTC)


 * No worries. I've download them now, and will upload them later. Some people enjoy the processes of uploading images, but it's too much like work to me. :) BilCat (talk) 21:28, 15 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Well thanks for tackling it! - Ahunt (talk) 23:27, 15 June 2021 (UTC)


 * 5 done, 3 to go! See General Dynamics NF-16D VISTA and Mike Machat for 2 of them. BilCat (talk) 22:52, 16 June 2021 (UTC)


 * All done. They're at c:Category:General Dynamics F-16 VISTA. BilCat (talk) 05:11, 17 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Super, that is great work! - Ahunt (talk) 12:20, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Since there's been no public notice about the X-62A as yet, should we CSD X-62A VISTA? We've no idea how long it'll take to make this public, and it may well be a different X-number, or none at all. I didn't want to do it on my own as you created it. Just being courteous. :) BilCat (talk) 19:53, 17 June 2021 (UTC)


 * LOL, well I was just planning to leave it, since it is only a redirect, on the basis that it might be right, but if you would rather have it deleted, please do go ahead. - Ahunt (talk) 00:31, 18 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I can wait a few more days, and then CSD it. BilCat (talk) 00:49, 18 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Sure. Let's see if the documentation arrives. Might be a labour saver! - Ahunt (talk) 01:12, 18 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Might save some labor too! ;) BilCat (talk) 01:27, 18 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Both! - Ahunt (talk) 01:38, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:McCulloch engines


A tag has been placed on Category:McCulloch engines indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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 * - Ahunt (talk) 15:05, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Project Schoolflight
Ahunt,

your edits to Project Schoolflight were speedy and so well done & reveals that your talent for this shines like a beacon and I appreciate your doing such a nice job polishing up Project Schoolflight because Schoolflight,  EAA, the readers, and all stakeholders deserves to have the best & such a wonderful story told so well as you helped do! sincerest thanks and warmest cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by RDBACE1 (talk • contribs) 02:26, 20 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I am glad that you thought that was helpful. - Ahunt (talk) 11:57, 20 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Just to note I tagged most of the images for deletion at commons as they are clearly not the work of the uploader just scans or images of magazine pages and documents. Suprised that it was accepted at Articles for Creation without comment. MilborneOne (talk) 08:27, 20 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for looking those over and nominating them for deletion. They looked like copyright violations to me as well, but it is good to have a second opinion. - Ahunt (talk) 11:57, 20 June 2021 (UTC)


 * , more images have been added, but I am not sure if these are copyright violations or just an indication of WP:COI issues. - Ahunt (talk) 21:42, 20 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I have nominated one as it is an upload of one already nominated - claim that the documents are part of the family collection. In the Baby Ace image User:RDBACE1 calims an "original photo"- this photo is an original from the uploader's archived family library- U.L. owns all rights to this work as this photo was taken by Robert D. Blacker" - I am not sure if he is saying he is Robert Blacker or presumably a relative. Either case the article becomes a COI issue and probably needs tagging as such. MilborneOne (talk) 14:00, 21 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, that was the conclusion I came to as well, based on the same comments. Thus is pushing into WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY territory. I have tagged it for now. - Ahunt (talk) 14:38, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Because you thanked me

 * Glad that was helpful. I try to encourage people, especially when they make good edits. - Ahunt (talk) 13:08, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

A milestone
I just realized it's now been 10 years that we've been at it together on the federal election polling pages. Well done and here's to another 10! Cheers!!! Undermedia (talk) 12:59, 27 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Time flies. You have been doing great work on those articles. I don't think they would look as good without your efforts. - Ahunt (talk) 13:34, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

What the heck?
Hi Adam, have you seen this? It's a few years old, but what a mess! BilCat (talk) 20:34, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirecting that was the kindest thing that could have been done. It reads like a spoof from The Onion. - Ahunt (talk) 22:48, 27 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Yup. That digression about Mallards was certainly odd! BilCat (talk) 22:51, 27 June 2021 (UTC)


 * A real grab-bag of "things that land on water"! - Ahunt (talk) 22:54, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Category trees
It may be the case (I'm not saying it is the case) that you do not understand or do not appreciate the concept of category trees. Just in case you do not understand it: detailed subcategories allow navigating from any article to other articles that are the most closely related to the article of departure, based on certain characteristics. If you also want to check out articles that are slightly less related then you scroll up in the category tree. One big Linux category without any subcategories would not be helpful at all because then it becomes nearly impossible to find the Linux distributions that are most closely related to the article of departure. All there would be left would be an alphabetic sorting, which is not meaningful at all from a content point of view. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:46, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note. I do understand how trees of categories work or at least are supposed to work, but in this case this one has "grown organically" by editors just adding random cats over time, without any plan and so is a total illogical mess that is impossible to navigate. I also think it is best if we keep the discussion in one place over at Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_June_26. - Ahunt (talk) 12:44, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Rotax and x-charged
Hi Adam, re: this edit, the Rotax website lists "supercharged", not "turbocharged", for the Seadoo watercraft, which is probably why it keeps getting changed. Is the site incorrect? Perhaps the aircraft versions are turbocharged? (Note that it also uses "naturally aspirated", which is the title of the Wikipedia article too.) Thanks. BilCat (talk) 19:42, 1 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note. The Rotax 914 aircraft engine is definitely turbocharged, but it looks like the Rotax 1630 ACE jetski engine is supercharged, so I will fix that. - Ahunt (talk) 20:52, 1 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks, and no worries. BilCat (talk) 23:26, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Your thoughts at Talk:Wind-powered vehicle?
Hi Ahunt, perhaps you could help us resolve a discussion at Talk:Wind-powered vehicle about the sentence in Talk:Wind-powered vehicle (Theory) that now states, "How fast a given wind speed can propel a vehicle in either direction is limited only by the efficiency of the turbine blades, losses in the drive train, and parasitic aerodynamic drag on the vehicle (i. e. drag not directly associated with power harvesting)." Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 21:57, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, let me have a look. - Ahunt (talk) 00:26, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Ahunt (talk) 00:30, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

thanks!
- my learning curve is getting better and your assistance / help is the reason why- your edits always polish it up- thank you Sir! G  RDBACE1 (talk) 15:10, 7 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Glad that was helpful. Feel free to leave me questions here, too. - Ahunt (talk) 15:35, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Ray Stits is
is so deserving - a great man & EAA'er for sure!!!!!! RDBACE1 (talk) 21:28, 7 July 2021 (UTC)


 * After you put the link in Project Schoolflight, I checked where it redirected to, which was Stits Playboy, which made no sense really. It was a pure WP:EASTEREGG, leaving readers with that "WTF feeling". That really left only twp possible choices: put the redirect up for deletion, or write the biographical article to replace the redirect. It was easier and made more sense, in terms of growing the encyclopedia, to just research and write the article. - Ahunt (talk) 22:34, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Oddest response to a revert I think I've ever gotten
See Special:Contributions/81.40.41.84, and the edits from July 6 on. (Not that the first two are much better!) Thanks. BilCat (talk) 01:57, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ...I don't think it would be WP:OR to guess "mental health issues" there. - Ahunt (talk) 09:29, 9 July 2021 (UTC)


 * It's definitely something. There's so many random thoughts run together that it almost gave me issues! BilCat (talk) 18:24, 9 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Well I was thinking almost word salad. - Ahunt (talk) 00:19, 10 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Possibly also poor English skills and/or bad machine translation, along with the something else. BilCat (talk) 01:54, 10 July 2021 (UTC)


 * These edits from another IP are even worse! Is the Moon doing something weird this week?? BilCat (talk) 02:46, 10 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Yep, very classic weirdness. - Ahunt (talk) 13:06, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Canadian "sausage"
I flew on several airliners on my recent trip, including CRJs.

I flew on a CRJ200 last week, and a CRJ900 this week. I liked the 900, but the 200 had issues. (I called it the hot sausage!) The APU quit before we boarded, so it was very hot, as the A/C didn't work well. I talked to a dead-heading pilot who was on the flight, and he mentioned that the APU has always been an issue on the 200. Our CRJ700 article mentions the upgraded APU and environmental systems, but the issues aren't mentioned in the CRJ100/200 article. It might be worth finding a source for those issues.

I had hoped to fly on a Boeing 717 on this trip, but it didn't work out, as my flight got changed. (I've flown on many DC-9s and MD-80/90s, so I wanted to see what a 717 was like. They might all be gone by the next time I fly.) BilCat (talk) 23:18, 10 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Glad that you made it home fine. The CRJs do have a bit of a tight cabin feel to them, don't they? - Ahunt (talk) 23:24, 10 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Definitely, and I'm plus-sized! I also miss the "no middle seat assignments" policy on this trip, as every flight was fully booked. I even got upgraded on the 900 flight to make room for a stand-by passenger. BilCat (talk) 23:36, 10 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Yeah any COVID measures implemented were thrown out a while ago in favour of "maximizing profits". - Ahunt (talk) 12:25, 11 July 2021 (UTC)


 * We still have to wear face diapers tho. But as hard hit as the industry has been in all this, I don't mind the full flights. BilCat (talk) 19:51, 11 July 2021 (UTC)


 * The airline industry seems filled with optimism this year. I guess we will see if it is misplaced or not! - Ahunt (talk) 23:26, 12 July 2021 (UTC)


 * And government regulators seem to be filled with pessimism! :) BilCat (talk) 22:13, 13 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Someone is going to be wrong. - Ahunt (talk) 23:08, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

TAI/AgustaWestland T129 ATAK
Dear veteran wikipedian, Is it possible to rename the article as TAI/AW T129 ATAK (under Wikipedia rules) from TAI/AgustaWestland T129 ATAK. It is worth mentioning TAI is a short-form of Turkish Aerospace Industries. TAI/AgustaWestland T129 ATAK name is extremely large for a helicopter name. Nafis Fuad Ayon (talk) 16:51, 13 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note. We have a very longstanding consensus on how we name aircraft type articles, which is all explained at Naming conventions (aircraft). We also have about 20,000 articles that follow that convention. - Ahunt (talk) 16:55, 13 July 2021 (UTC)


 * User:Ahunt It was a pleasure speaking with you. Good luck.Nafis Fuad Ayon (talk) 17:15, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Downwash
Hi A. I'm here to ask a favor. I have been looking at Downwash. The major citation is Crane, Dale: Dictionary of Aeronautical Terms, third edition, page 172. Would you be so kind as to let me know what Crane has to say on the subject of downwash? At your convenience. Many thanks. Dolphin ( t ) 11:53, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, no problem:
 * downwash (aerodynamics). Air forced down by aerodynamic action below and behind the wing of an airplane or rotor of a helicopter. Aerodynamic lift is produced when air is deflected downward. The upward force on the aircraft is the same as the downward force on the air. When the mass of air in the downwash is equal to the weight of the aircraft forcing it down, the aircraft rises.
 * - Ahunt (talk) 14:20, 18 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Much appreciated. Dolphin ( t ) 21:40, 18 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Glad that was helpful! - Ahunt (talk) 21:46, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Second opinion
Hi Adam, could you look at Draft:TAI T929 ATAK 2 and see if you think it's ready for mainspace? It looks OK to me, but sometimes I miss obvious issues. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 01:45, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Looks like it already got moved to mainspace! It looks basically okay. The only part I would question is the "operators" section, which lists two organizations that have not ordered any yet, let alone taken delivery of any. - Ahunt (talk) 13:59, 20 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I forgot to update you after it was moved, but you figured it out. :) BilCat (talk) 18:58, 20 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Probably as good as it gets for now! - Ahunt (talk) 21:08, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Rejected edits in FL Technics wiki
Please explain why the history of a company that includes only establishments of new companies and facilities is promotion/spam/trivia. The wiki article is FL Technics. Deleting the whole section without any proper explanation is unprofessional and devaluing to my work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spontiac (talk • contribs)
 * My edit was fully explained with regard to policies, in my edit summary and I also received thanks from other editors from removing the text you added. If you want to discuss this, then please take it up on the article talk page where other editors watching the page can participate. As far as devaluing to my work goes, please read WP:OWN. - Ahunt (talk) 12:33, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Edit war on FL Technics
Ahunt, as much as I value your contribution to the Wikipedia, the edits you make on FL Technics Wikipedia article are not valid. The company did expand by opening new hangars how is that a promotion? The company also created a training division which is an integral part of the company. Other companies like Boeing, Airbus in their wiki articles are allowed to disclose such information, whereas FL Technics can only disclose the date it was founded. Why 2011 entry about Storm Aviation acquisition is okay and the one from 2020 about Flash Line Maintenance once is not okay anymore? I would kindly ask you to explain or rather write the history as you see fit. The explanation of "STILL A LOT OF WP:SPAM; WP:TRIVIA and WP:PROMOTION" does not give clear indication where the problem lies, because Storm Aviation and Flash Line maintenance acquisitions are worded in the same way, but one is not accepted, although other one is... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spontiac (talk • contribs)
 * Please make your case on the article talk page where other interested edtors can participate in the discussion. Alos please remember to sign your talk page posts with ~ . - Ahunt (talk) 21:46, 28 July 2021 (UTC)


 * I've noted that this editor has only edited on a small range of articles, all corporations of some sort, and mainly "updating" the articles by adding large amounts of material. While I don't want to make unfounded accusations, this is a bit odd. Editing articles with a undisclosed COI, including paid contributions, is a big no-no, and if discovered before it's revealed by the editor, may result in an indefinite block. BilCat (talk) 22:24, 28 July 2021 (UTC)


 * All of the wiki articles that I have ever edited are from the largest Lithuanian aviation companies which I'm very proud to have in the country. Updating their pages because I'm keen on aviation does not make me a paid employee or anything else. The information I add is factually correct thus no infringement on Wikipedia rules because I do it voluntarily.Spontiac (talk) 06:59, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

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