User talk:Aintabli

Happy New Year, Aintabli!


Happy New Year! Aintabli, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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 * Thank you for your message. I wish you a great new year as well. Aintabli (talk) 00:43, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Yeni yıl :)
Selam @Aintabli, yeni yılın için sana; sağlıklı, huzurlu ve mutlu seneler diliyorum :) Bu maddeyi İngilizce olarak çevirebilir misin? Ygmr01 (talk) 13:05, 1 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Teşekkür ederim. Size de iyi seneler. Kayda değerlik kriterlerine göre değerlendirip maddeyi eklemeye çalışacağım. Aintabli (talk) 00:42, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Teşekkür ederim @Aintabli, Üniversite olduğu için olur bence. Zaten öğrenim gördüğüm üniversitedir, baktığım zaman diğer Türk üniversiteleri açılmış kendi üniversitemin olmaması üzdü bendi :)… Bu arada eğer maddeyi açacaksan rektör değişti bu gün. 3 Ocak itibari ile Prof. Dr. Buğra Özen atandı. Ygmr01 (talk) 17:04, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:NSCHOOL'a göre üniversiteler de bu konuda değerlendirilmeli. Önceden bir okul için sayfa oluşturmadığım için bu alanda pek spesifik tecrübem yok ama kriterler uyarınca okul hakkında yazılmış, okulun kendisinden bağımsız birkaç güvenilir kaynak lazım. Belki siz de yardımcı olabilirsiniz. Ben belli sayıda haber kaynağı buldum. Yeterince üzerinde çalıştıktan sonra okulun sayfasını yaratabilirim. Aintabli (talk) 21:34, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Okulun kendisinden hariç pek kaynak yok galiba, bakıcam bu konuda birşey bulursam çok iyi olur… Çok teşekkür ederim bu arada… Ygmr01 (talk) 21:41, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * 10 adet kaynak ekledim… Umarım işe yarar, yaramaz isede canın sağolsun, düşüncen bile benim için çok kıymetli…
 * Bu arada bana ulaşmak istersen Türkçe Viki’de aktif şekildeyim oraya yazman yeterlidir… Sevgilerle @Aintabli
 * Kaynak1, kaynak2, Kaynak3, Kaynak4, Kaynak5, kaynak6, Kaynak7, Kaynak8, Kaynak9, Kaynak10 Ygmr01 (talk) 21:51, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

GA review Regency of Algiers
Hello @Aintabli, since you undertook a GA review for the Regency of Algiers article, i was wondering if you were still on it or it's now left for another reviewer after renomination, if you're still on it, do you consider the issues raised solved ? Best. Nourerrahmane (talk) 21:59, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Nourerrahmane, when I've first taken a look at the article, the length simply was a major issue that merited a quickfail, because it could take quite some time to solve. However, you were very responsive and tackled the issue in a few hours or days. There is still a tag, which I remember you had removed. So, if you did not readd it yourself, some other editor may believe the article still needs trimming. I can make further suggestions for the time being. Armed forces should not be a full standalone section, because it is merely made up of two wikilinks. It may still be worth reducing the number of pictures and especially removing the image "inside" the table in Mandatory royalties and gifts, because it deforms its size in my opinion. I see some references that are full citations and should be moved to the Bibliography. And some lack page numbers, such as Bloom, Jonathan M. (2020) (currently 268th footnote). Please go through all of them, so all relevant citations have a page number and are ideally fully cited in the Bibliography section. Aintabli (talk) 22:43, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello @Aintabli, i've worked on the article based on your suggestions. Best. Nourerrahmane (talk) 01:02, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Nourerrahmane, great job! Do you think the lengthy quote in Regency of Algiers is absolutely necessary? The quote occupies most of the section, so I would either trim or paraphrase. I don't have more in-depth comments, but I will ping you when I have more. Aintabli (talk) 19:59, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! i think it gives an overview of Algiers against what was the general idea of it is, but i might paraphrase it, also i made some changes because i felt i needed to highlight a bit about the Dey Ben Othman Pasha, as his rule represents the Apogee of Algiers in the 18th century while i did some trimming in other subsections and included them in his rule. Nourerrahmane (talk) 20:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ghars al-Din Khalil
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Your GA nomination of Ghars al-Din Khalil
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Your GA nomination of Ghars al-Din Khalil
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Your GA nomination of Eretnid dynasty
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NPR Rights
Friend, Hi, I saw you're request at WP:PERM/NPR and also saw you're CSD log is seems to good and I know you understand speedy deletion policy but I see you don not work as Afc reviewers on WP:AFC but I suggest to you; please starts work as Afc reviewers, on request at WP:WAC/P and It's help to increasing you're policy knowledge, and you know and admin before granting you this permission they checking your [AFC Status] and other things and if they satisfied from your knowledge and you're contributions then  he grant you this advanced permission. αvírαm | (tαlk) 04:25, 27 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you for taking the time to evaluate a fellow requester. I'll consider your advice. Aintabli (talk) 04:34, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Welcome to the drive!
Welcome, welcome, welcome Aintabli! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles. CactiStaccingCrane (talk)17:54, 1 February 2024 UTC //en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Aintabli&action=purge refresh via JWB and Geardona (talk to me?)

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Your GA nomination of Eretnid dynasty
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Kaa...
Regarding the horon dance: how does Kaa sing to Mowgli? "🎶 Trust in meee... Just in mee!" I knew what I was doing, for a change :)) Cheers, Arminden (talk) 00:00, 13 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Preach. Aintabli (talk) 00:05, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Horon (disambiguation)


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Horon
Can you explain why Horon (disambiguation) was recreated? I'm not entirely sure what went down. It is an invalid DAB as it stands right now so is likely to be PRODed again. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 04:49, 15 February 2024 (UTC)


 * @AllTheUsernamesAreInUse, I did not recreate Horon (disambiguation). After the PROD, I requested the speedy deletion of the page. It was deleted, but then Arminden recreated the page. It was moved for numerous times after that. Aintabli (talk) 04:54, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I see, thank you for explaining. Do you know Arminden's reasoning in recreating it? AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 04:55, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Scratch that, I think I know now. Should I send it to AfD now? Are either of you likely to oppose deletion? AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 04:58, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * You can explain the situation to Arminden and ask them to request its speedy deletion (WP:G7). Aintabli (talk) 05:00, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Eretna
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Your GA nomination of Mutahharten
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Request
Hello, colleague. I would like to ask you for help with this resource request – WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request/Archive_167. I see that you are busy now, but I will be grateful to you at any time.

With respect, Smpad (talk) 12:29, 22 February 2024 (UTC)


 * @Smpad Asonk ktnel bidi pordzem. Yete ktnel grnai, yes kez bidi isem! Aintabli (talk) 15:51, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Eretna
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Amaran (upcoming film)
Can I know why you have reverted my edits. As you can see, I have removed the extra sources and extra content which is not needed for the article. Thanks. Archery minded (talk) 05:09, 28 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I guess you're trying to say this is a cleanup. You have also removed a whole section, which doesn't look extra. If the issue is whether the sources are WP:RS, be sure to state that in the edit summary to avoid misunderstandings. Aintabli (talk) 05:14, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 * It's per WP:FILMMARKETING. I hope you understood. Thanks. Archery minded (talk) 05:16, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I support Archery minded in this. The article is bloated and violates WP:CITEKILL, he is just cleaning it up. Kailash29792 (talk)  05:19, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Be more careful next time, because the edit tripped the filter. Aintabli (talk) 05:23, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I hope I can restore my edits. Thanks to both of you. Archery minded (talk) 05:29, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Dear Generalissima, thank you so much for the kind words. You've made my day! It's an honor for me that you appreciate my work. Aintabli (talk) 05:15, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Some data about kurds are outdated
Hi anitabli I was looking at kurdistan region article in wikipedia and the information were outdated they said kurdistan have four governorate duhok.erbil.slemani.helabje but now zakho is also a governorate they didn't add it i said about it in the talk page but no one answered me can you fix it and thank you for reading this Hogirkurdish15 (talk) 21:03, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi, please provide the sources (at least links) for others to check. Then, someone might add it to the article. Aintabli (talk) 00:26, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Yakub I of Germiyan
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Your GA nomination of Ali of Eretna
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Your GA nomination of Ali of Eretna
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Your GA nomination of Yakub II
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Your GA nomination of Ahi Ayna
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Your GA nomination of Yakub II
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Andrew Clarence David Young
Could you please explain why you marked the Andrew Clarence David Young article as "non-free". GoldenBootWizard276 (talk) 18:21, 19 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I don’t have access to the tools through my phone, but I remember that the article showed about 60% resemblance to another publication. Aintabli (talk) 21:33, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The article now shows a 3.8% (at most) similarity with another publication so I believe the issue has been sorted. GoldenBootWizard276 (talk) 21:42, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, it appears to have been solved. Aintabli (talk) 21:51, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Eretnid dynasty
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Your GA nomination of Yakub II
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Draft:1st Supporting Forces Command
Hello, Aintabli,

Your tagging of this draft article was appropriate, thank you. However, for CSD G5s, when you are using Twinkle, please put the username of the sockmaster, the editor who is evading a block, in the field, not the name of the sockpuppet. This is because the Twinkle deletion rationale will appear on the article and it is more important to know that editor who is the sockmaster than the identity of any particular sockpuppet. It's also because if an admin has a question, they can go look at the most recent SPI case and those are filed under the sockmaster's username, not the sockpuppet's. Thanks again for your work on the project. Liz Read! Talk! 03:38, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Same goes with Draft:Black Tiger (Pilingê Reş) Forces. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 03:40, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the notice and explanation. Will make sure I include the name of the sockmaster next time. Aintabli (talk) 04:38, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mutahharten
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Your GA nomination of Yakub I of Germiyan
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Your GA nomination of Shah Suwar
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DYK for Eretnid dynasty
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Your GA nomination of Shaban Suli
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Hi
@Aintabli, Büdeyri Hanı Why didn't u open this article? Lionel Cristiano? 17:41, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi, the Turkish article is not sourced. I would have to find enough coverage of it before creating an article here. Aintabli (talk) 21:13, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Grand mosque name order
I'm not really convinced that there's a real rationale for these recent moves, or that it's necessarily optimal. AFAIK there hasn't been a discussion at WikiProject Islam or MOS:ISLAM that "Grand Mosque of" should be the default naming convention, and while consistency is a general principle here, it's not clear that this format is even the most common, and therefore what we might prefer as a default. On the contrary, on individual pages it often flies in the face of sources. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:09, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Article titles should be WP:CONSISTENT. The earlier forms are closer to the Turkish convention, which does not align with the common form in English. Aintabli (talk) 15:42, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If there aren't English sources presented, the form closest to the Turkish is closer to the actual sources we have. Also in literature, some are grand, some are great. There's a lot of variety. I'm also not convinced there even is a definitive common form in English. Iskandar323 (talk) 16:07, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * What sources are currently present in the article are irrelevant, considering that most of these articles are in poor shape. See this and this for example. This form is obviously more common. The “grand” vs “great” difference is something I do not object, and if most English sources use it for a given mosque, would vote in favor of changing. On the other hand, the town name doesn’t come first in English as per the links above. That’s two major reasons. Aintabli (talk) 16:28, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It still would have been better, and still would be better, if you took this up with some relevant WikiProjects rather than imposing your stylistic preference based on somewhat flimsy grounds. There are a couple factors at play. One is the trend within scholarship for the titling of Turkish mosques specifically, because on the great vs grand contrast there are actually some regional variations. More generally, as you can see from this Ngram, your chosen form is if anything the weakest of all and only accounts for the barest minority of mentions of grand mosques generally, and is statistically all but insignificant when factoring in the mentions of great mosques as well. It is for exactly these sorts of reasons that is often worth reaching out to the community before doing sweeping renaming without inquiry. Iskandar323 (talk) 17:19, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The Ngrams results include nothing tangible. As you add more words to a phrase, it will be much rarer. Getting more instances of “Grand mosque” does not mean the location name comes before in a specific case or that it is part of a proper name in every case. I also don’t remember moving any of the articles from “great” to “grand”, so I don’t understand why you’re arguing that an unspecified page should be “great” here. On a different note, looking at the articles’ edit histories, I have now realized that you have also previously moved multiple pages to a preferred title. I have taken a bold approach and at least made moves in line with WP:CONSISTENT and per the links, a common form among scholarship. You have the right to disagree with these changes and could have instead started a discussion on a different and openly visible page instead of making behavioral comments on my user talk page. I will start that discussion when I get behind my computer if you don’t do so before. But I don’t see any specific argument here, so I am unsure what approach you prefer. If you are arguing that this should be looked at case by case, you have tried to prove “great” is more common in general, which my moves did not concern. So, do you want something like an RFC or a move request for each article? Aintabli (talk) 18:43, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Happy to move this to a WikiProject. Iskandar323 (talk) 20:15, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * You can start a new discussion (RFC) there precisely describing what you want to be changed in the guidelines. Aintabli (talk) 20:22, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not talking about guidelines or RFCs; just informing relevant WikiProjects and inviting input. Iskandar323 (talk) 20:25, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If it's not the guidelines, I'm not sure what input you want. There are two possible choices: Change in guidelines or requesting moves on each page after determining what the common name is. I have started doing the latter. Aintabli (talk) 20:29, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok. Iskandar323 (talk) 20:31, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Look, I'm not trying to be acrimonious here; just trying to ensure that sweeping changes aren't being made for not necessarily fully thought out reasons. You are arguing that your approach is consistent, but you haven't, for example, shown an expert tertiary source that consistently follows this pattern. You also seem to know Turkish, so I'm not sure why you're insisting on a format that is further from the Turkish. Name+ulucami => Name+grand mosque is a much more common sense approach than your consistency drive. Iskandar323 (talk) 20:29, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I think this has gotten too complicated. We can start clean, but I don't want to deep-dive into a discussion again. I think the simplest approach would be to determine the common name and then request moves on each page accordingly. Aintabli (talk) 20:34, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * To wrap up/clarify/summarize, I am now starting a few move requests as time allows. For example, the mosque in Erzurum is better known as "great". But that was not the point of my earlier moves, which were meant to implement CONSISTENT and English conventions. Looking at your comments here and earlier moves, I do not believe you have checked any English sources on these mosques, and it appears that per your move summaries, you were "standardizing" the names rather than doing what you are telling me to do. Aintabli (talk) 19:38, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I performed moves previously to render Turkish names into English I believe. One obvious drawback of the "of" variant is that it is less concise – it adds an unnecessary preposition with no additional meaning or value. Secondly, it is less preferred in terms of our standard naming practice, which is to put the where before the what – I imagine principally because location names are what lend the precision, while nounal elements are generic. Iskandar323 (talk) 19:50, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * There are English sources on many if not most of these mosques, so rendering Turkish names is not what we need right now. When it comes to brevity, "of" is merely 2 characters long, and that is not the typical case when a "concise" title would be favorable. I believe you may want to start an RFC about including location names first when naming articles on mosques/buildings regardless of a common name. Such articles both in and outside Turkey have been in the "of" form for a long time. Aintabli (talk) 20:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * No, not regardless of a common name; in the absence of one. I'm not the one assuming a common form/name format for Turkish mosques. Iskandar323 (talk) 20:14, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think so. Aintabli (talk) 20:15, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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Beyran
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 * Hi, thank you for cooking that article. The main ingredients should be WP:RS and page numbers. I believe a move to Beyran may be in order per WP:COMMONNAME. Aintabli (talk) 22:14, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Piotr Glass & BLPN
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Alevism
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