User talk:AirWolf/Archive 2

Rusty LaRue
AirWolf- Thanks for your message. LaRue's basketball-reference profile (which is consistent with print editions of the NBA Register in which he appears) shows four years of basketball at Wake (which is consistent with my memory since he played for an ACC school and I have followed the ACC since the 1970s). However, your message got me thinking that I should check more. This site isn't official (but it's correct), but see here that LaRue played games in December. The coding says "1993," but the author uses the closing year as shorthand (see the index of seasons here, LaRue appears in the "1993" through "1996" entries). I think the issue comes from the Wake Forest media guide, which lists LaRue's career as 1993-96. However, they list all players using the close year, like the author of the ACC site above. Some schools list this way, others do the way Wikipedia lists. It can be confusing. Rikster2 (talk) 11:34, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

battleground behavior
Please do not attack other editors. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.

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Invitation: Garuda Indonesia – issue
Hi AirWolf, I was recently caught in the discussion about an attempt to merge articles of Garuda Indonesia and Philippine Airlines. Please, if you are willing so, read my whole expose about this issue here: Garuda Indonesia-Philippine Airlines merge article, and give your opinion on it, so we can move forward from this stalemate. Thanks! PinasCentral (Talk) 12:39, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Serbia national team
Looks like someone already semiprotected the page. Zagal e jo^^^ 15:26, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Talkback
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Jersey numbers
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"Currently"
Hi ... thanks for all your improvements. One thing -- please don't write "currently plays" ... just write "plays". As Strunk and White would say: "Omit needless words." "Currently" just takes up space in that construct (it is understood, given that "plays" follows it, which is present tense), and slows down the reader in getting to the next important words and concepts -- without adding anything. Thanks. --Epeefleche (talk) 01:23, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of MK Group
Hello AirWolf,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged MK Group for deletion, because it seems to be inappropriate for a variety of reasons.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Oceangreenn (talk) 05:44, 5 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi. You should be aware by now that the place for drafts is in your user space, not in article space. Deb (talk) 14:51, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The fact is that the page is not a draft, it is a stub. It is not violating Wiki Policy other than for the named reasons. Less mentoring, more work is appreciated.-- AirWolf  talk  15:08, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, you have just deleted article about organization which is the 20th largest enterprise by revenue in some country (Serbia), which is not an orphan, and which author had intentions to expand in the following days per CSD nominee. That's the abuse of power. I demand edit revert if possible, or at least page content so I don't have to expand it from scratch. At least this. Please.-- AirWolf  talk  15:17, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

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Your edits
Hello, the reason I started editing, or more or less recreating, existing player pages is because a vast majority of the European basketball player pages, even of important players, are entirely lacking in either biographical information, statistics and all around content. I fail to see how deleting league statistics from verified sources that update them yearly (notice I didn't put stats from weaker sources like for the Turkish league) is making an edit more valuable. You say that there isn't enough people working to update them, I am very much willing to update every player I create or edit (it won't be more than 25/30) players at the end of each domestic league season, in all cases it's better to have verified and sourced data than thin air (re the lack of content cited above). Whilst I agree that the Euroleague is the best indicator of a player's worth it can not possibly be the only one, it is not the NBA, players play much less games and discarding domestic stats would be like only keeping the playoff stats for NBA players, or in the case of quite a few Italian players it would only be possible to cite the stats in the main article which looks awful and reads badly. Shawn James is the perfect example, he took three years to reach the Euroleague level, all of which were decisive in his progression, the biographical information on him was wrong before I edited him (he was born in Guyana not Brooklyn, no mention had been made of his Guyanese nationality that gives him Cotonou status) and the article thin for a major (less so today) European based player. Again arbitrary restrictions placed on the stats (5ppg minimum) or clumsy rounding up of the stats (I don't see how “21:35 is actually 24.6 minutes”) does not in my opinion add value. While I agree that external links can add information (I deleted most of them because I had already linked them in the article, for example on the stat tables) I strongly disagree with your main argument, I've seen on your talk page that you do not appreciate people meddling with your edits so would appreciate if you could also avoid it. I will be reverting my pages with minor alterations (external links added, flags deleted) and I'd rather you not delete content again without pointing to a guidline (not personall view) that explains why, I appreciate suggestions and help with editing and guidelines but not over moderating. The info that I put into my edits is researched, verified and sourced so there is no reason to delete it, we should all be working together to actually have more information on player pages than what is already on the well maintained Euroleague website, I'm tired of seeing player pages that only say “he signed a contract”, “he was released” etc with no depth analysis.

ArmstrongJulian (talk) 15 April 2015

Darko
Boško Đukanović kaže da je potpisao čovek, jeste da je najverovatnije otvoreni ugovor i da nemamo pojma da li će mu negde u avgustu čuknuti u glavu da mu baš i nije pametno da se lomata po pripremama, ali po mom mišljenju je sve u skladu sa WP:SPORTSTRANS jer je u pitanju definitivno a reputable league or team official, a ne sources say tip članka. --OxymoronNBG (talk) 20:33, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Editing Standards
I don't see any sense going back and forth between us and editing the articles, we're seemingly not going to agree so I started a discussion at the WikiProject Basketball so we can argue our viewpoints. ArmstrongJuliantalk — Preceding undated comment added 23:31, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

I think most of the interested people have become aware of the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Basketball and have expressed their opinions or lack of on the subject. No strong opposition emerged to using domestic league statistics, though there was only tentative support for their inclusion from HTD and no consensus was reached there is clearly no guideline against them, your opinion only counts as that, not as a rule. On the formatting for Euroleague stats, there was only tentative support for the “International” format, again by Howard (“Use the standards the league is using”), that does not mean that the current format is to be the default one, using WP:FAITACCOMPLI as explanation for this is not adequate. That does leave this issue in limbo, personally, when I add them I will format them the same as the Euroleague does, I expect any putative revert by yourself to be supported by policy otherwise it would be disruptive.

Contrarily to what you affirm (“If not reached, it will stay as it is, unfortunately or not”), you do no create the rules, I find it rich to accuse me of article ownership (though I only reverted some of your changes because they deleted valid and sourced information) when some of your actions -claiming changes are not maintainable without proving they're detrimental and controlling my edits (“I'll try to contest all your edits constructively”) - are very similar to WP:OWNBEHAVIOR. To make this clear, no one owns the fictional Euroleague players categories including you or me, maintaining the relevant articles or your edit count does not give you the right to filter the content at your whim, consensus has to be made. I have modified and will keep modifying how I edit following suggestions from other editors and after being made aware of existing consensuses but if I feel that I can add to an article's value whilst keeping to established conventions I will do so regardless of your views, the added value to Wikipedia prevails over personal preferences.--ArmstrongJulian (talk) 16:52, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Sequence of tenses
Bump: Sequence of tenses in English. --OxymoronNBG (talk) 10:38, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
 * OxymoronNBG, only with the ejection of adj. current, you can have sequence of tenses with main verb "has agreed" in such form.-- AirWolf  talk  08:56, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Kuzmic
Hi...could you help me to protect Kuzmic of anonymous users just like you did to Gordic?--Bozalegenda (talk) 12:35, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll keep watching it from now. However, any actions made in the past I'm not authorized to report as 3rr rule seems to haven't been broken. So yeah, from now on, I'll monitor it.-- AirWolf  talk  14:10, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Invitation to NBL Canada WikiProject

 * Thanks for the invitation. Currently, I have no interest in joining your Community. Keep up the good work!-- AirWolf  talk  17:13, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Draft Editing.
I get what you're saying, but I've only edited lottery picks. Unless something goes horribly wrong, the players will sign contracts with their respective teams very soon. But thank you for bringing that up to me. I was not thinking about that at the time. The Analyst 2.0 (talk) 02:55, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
 * ✔-- AirWolf  talk  14:34, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Boban Marjanovic
Boban Marjanovic of Crvena Zvezda Telekom Belgrade claimed bwin MVP honors for regular season Round 1 < this is an award. But if you say no, ok its still an highlight and it must be selected in the category: Career highlights and awards.

Please dont reedit this anymore because its correct, and there is no reason for deleting or reediting of that detail. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marko011011M (talk • contribs) 12:34, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Zasto
Zasto stalno ubacujes sve da nam ekonomija na wikipediji izgleda jadnije?? Ja lepo uradim ti pokvaris brojeve...Ako nisi znao investitori kad investiraju isto pogledaju wikipediju...Ti si stavio sve u minus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simba222 (talk • contribs) 02:42, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Bozalegenda
Just out of curiosity, I see you talk with this editor on his talk page. The editor reverted legit edits I make, and then makes edits to incorrect information, and if I fix it, he reverts it back and if I ask why, he just says my edits are wrong and need to be corrected so he reverts. Have you had similar issue with same editor? Just curious.Bluesangrel (talk) 23:31, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Tyrone Garland FAN
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External links to college basketball profiles
Hello - I noticed with Nate Wolters and a couple of other players that you have changed external links from (example) SD State bio to Nate Wolters at gojacks.com. The problem with this is that, unlike standard league or fan sites, each of the 350+ American college programs has a different url and most are not recognizable even to college fans. I would recommend using a link name that makes it clear to the reader that it is their official college profile. Ichanged Wolters to "Nate Wolters South Dakota State profile." Rikster2 (talk) 12:18, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Infobox
Hey, i talked to rikster about that on his Page with my reasons. The team parameter should only be used when there is a specific article for the tournament. Having 4-5 links to the same team is not needed imo. The national team is linked 1-2 times in the article already. The same is done on foitball, handball articles and so on. Just dont see the need for a repeating link which offers nothing to the linked tournament. The olympics can and should have the subarticle there. It just makes it look more clear in my view. If there is a consensus otherwise its ok but that are my points. Kante4 (talk) 19:04, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe we should ask more editors (rikster e.g.). Dont see a reason for team with no link aswell. Just makes no sense, both but thats just my view. Kante4 (talk) 19:33, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. Mentioned you so you should get a notification. Whatever the result is what i go with, no bad blood. Kante4 (talk) 09:58, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Good job by both of us to find a way that satisfies both. Kante4 (talk) 16:12, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Question
"Don't try to be "smart" when interacting with anyone here, it's rude": I'm not sure I understand your comment. I was previously clarifying that I did not intend to commingle the two issues. If I stated something that implied that I was combining my general proposal for the presentation of medals with my proposal for underage medals, then I did not intend to, and would appreciate if you point out the confusing text, so that it can be corrected. There was no intention on my part to be rude. Thanks, and I apologize for any misunderstanding on my part.—Bagumba (talk) 21:26, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

ArmstrongJulian
Hey, I wanted to ask you what is your opinion of this editor? I see you are in the basketball project a lot and they are too. So I guess you know this editor fairly well. Have you had any problems with this editor? They are constantly antagonizing towards me, being rude, etc. I just wondered if you have any similar problems?Bluesangrel (talk) 18:54, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I just wanted to let you know that I inlcuded you in a discussion about a complaint I made about ArmstrongJulian at Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentsBluesangrel (talk) 18:01, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * What do you mean what I wrote about you?Bluesangrel (talk) 18:22, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I read through it again, and I saw how it sounded confusing. Sorry for that. I edited it again, and hopefully it sounds better. can you read it again, and see it makes more sense now? Sorry, but I just did not write it perfectly for how I wanted to say it. If it still does not look right to you, just explain it yourself please then. I don't want any misunderstanding.Bluesangrel (talk) 18:54, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

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FIBA-Euroleague controversy
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Municipalities of Kosovo
In the Wikipedias for the languages bg, pl, ru, sh, sq, sr there are dedicated articles for the municipalities. Municipality articles should list settlements (cities, towns, villages), show population data, locator map, district to which they belong. There may also be boundary changes, or the district to which a municipality belongs changed, e.g. pre-1999, under UNMIK after NATO invasion, after independence. Can you help to establish dedicated municipality articles?

I saw you edited information related to municipalities of Kosovo. User:PlyrStar93 is currently vandalising Đakovica Municipality, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C4%90akovica_Municipality&action=history, and like the NATO bombers, all he does is to revert, initiate blocks, spread misinformation etc. 78.55.249.107 (talk) 15:05, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I haven't seen these pages previously. I have just recently started working on Kosovo's municipalities and improved several things, but will continue in the future. In my opinion, there shouldn't be duplicate articles like Gjakova and Đakovica Municipality, but there should be much better coverage in Gjakova and other Kosovo articles related to the issues you presented (2000 administrative changes, borders etc.) Currently, I don't have much time for Wikipedia, but as soon as I find it in the following weeks, I'll gladly look into problems. Thanks for mentioning!-- AirWolf  talk  21:28, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Gjakova article in my opinion looks very good as far as text and provided images are in question. We'll work on its content in the future and Serbia-Kosovo dispute since 1990 (1998).-- AirWolf  talk  21:31, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, as far as separate town and municipality articles are in question, please notice that all Serbian municipalities have the same issue. Several wikies kept both town and municipality articles, English Wikipedia merged them. Why and where was the discussion concerning this matter I don't have an answer, but will find it. For example, Montenegro's municipalities are still separate. We'll work on it.-- AirWolf  talk  21:35, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Why should some of Ex-Yugoslavia be different from places all around the world? English Wikipedia has the entities commonly seperated. Administrative entities and physical towns are different objects. Entities of Serbia/Kosovo can have the same representation as the entities in other countries. To merge the content related to the administrative entity into the page of the physical entity is not supported by the view of the majority of the editors of administrative entities. Why extra treatment for Serbia/Kosovo? 78.55.210.87 (talk) 10:39, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Once again, provide some valuable references for such remark - "view of the majority of the editors of administrative entities". Such remark has no fact support. As we can notice, over past decade editors have adopted unwritten style to keep town/city and municipality that are homonymous as merged. I agree with it, because in most cases they are similar in content and the law of named countries treats them that way (e.g. through census etc.). If we decide to split 200+ articles, much of the content would be duplicated which doesn't make any sense.-- AirWolf  talk  11:49, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Asseco Prokom Gdynia current roster
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AirWolf, again, most users are updating their signatures as requested. We hope you will also. —Anomalocaris (talk) 16:50, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Done.-- AirWolf  talk  20:15, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
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Serbian Railways
Hello, Air Wolf, although both of us mainly edit on English Wikipedia, since I see on your user page that you are a native Serbian speaker I will adress you in Serbian in order to avoid any chance of misunderstanding.

Pre svega, želim da ti ukažem da sam pre nekih pola godine temeljno uredio i reorganizovao članak o Železnicama Srbije na engleskom koji je do tada bio potpuno nepregledan i, sa stanovišta informacija koje je pružao, nedovoljan. Tom prilikom sam napisao neka nova poglavlja (poglavlje o Putničkom saobraćaju si vidim iskoristio u članku o Srbija Vozu odnosno celokupno poglavlje si prebacio tamo), druga doradio i uopšte ceo članak uredio na način da bude što pregledniji i logičniji u svojoj strukturi. Takođe, ideja vodilja pri tom letošnjem uređivanju članka je bila da po koncepciji članak bude što sličniji člancima na engleskoj Vikipediji o državnim železničkim kompanijama zemalja u susedstvu koje su slične "Železnicama Srbije" i koje su prošle kroz praktično istovetne procese restrukturiranja. Plan restruktuiranja koji je usvojen i sproveden 2015. nije neki sui generis slučaj i proizvod "domaće pameti", nego maltene prepisan model restruktuiranja po kome su restruktuirane državne železničke kompanije u Srbiji susednim zemljama a verovatno i u ostatku tranzicionih zemalja centralne i istočne Evrope. Hrvatski HŽ je na taj način restruktuiran još 2005. godine, bugarski BDŽ 2007, rumunski CFR 2011., itd. 

Restruktuiranje se izvršilo na način da su se iz prethodnog jedinstvenog preduzeća izdvojila zasebna preduzeća za putnički prevoz, za prevoz robe i za upravljanje infrastrukturom ali i da su sva ta preduzeća ostala u poslovnoj zajednici odnosno holdingu sa matičnim preduzećem, u srpskom slučaju, "Železnicama Srbije" koje su jedini akcionar tih novosnovanih preduzeća. Da je to tako govore osnivačka akta tih novosnovanih preduzeća. Tako u Odluci o osnivanju "Infrastrukture Železnice Srbije" u članu 4 je navedeno: Osnivač Društva je Republika Srbija, kao jedini akcionar "Železnice Srbije" akcionarsko društvo u čije ime osnivačka prava ostvaruje Vlada. Dakle, Železnice Srbije su jedini akcionar tih preduzeća a Vlada Republike Srbije ostvaruje osnivačka prava u ime tog društva tj. "Železnica Srbije" a.d. kao matičnog preduzeča. Ima mnoštvo primera u kojima se vidi funkcionalna veza sa "Železnicama Srbije" kao matičnim preduzećem - tako npr. član 35 Statuta "Srbija karga" propisuje da Društvo objavljuje opšta akta u "Službenom glasniku Železnica Srbije". Nadalje, svi planovi restruktuiranja su rađeni na nivou "Železnica Srbije" kao celine: optimizacija broja zaposlenih se odnosi za sva 4 preduzeća zajedno jer ista čine holding odnosno poslovnu zajednicu (iako su odvojena preduzeća što nisam ni sporio). Štaviše, u izvoru koji si ti stavio u svom uređivanju članka jasno je navedeno da "Železnice Srbije" imaju 17.635 zaposlenih (uključujući naravno sva 4 preduzeća).

Tvoja analogija sa Elektromrežama Srbije nije baš najbolja, s obzirom da se radi o kompaniji koja jeste nastala izdvajanjem iz EPS-a ali od tada funkcioniše kao potpuno zasebna kompanija sa zasebnim akcijskim kapitalom (bez učešća EPS-a u kapitalu), za razliku od slučaja sa restruktuiranjem Železnica gde je ovim izdvojenim kompanijama jedini akcionar Železnice Srbije. Ako baš hoćeš primer EPS-a, adekvatna paralela sa ovim procesom u Železnicama bi bio njihov postupak restruktuiranja iz 2014. i 2015. kad su se iz EPS-a izdvojila EPS Distribucija i EPS Snabdevanje kao samostalna preduzeća ali koja čine holding sa EPS-om kao matičnim preduzećem i čiji je EPS jedini akcionar.

Eto, nadam se da sam bio od pomoći.

Srdačan pozdrav

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Municipalities
Hi. The one who pointed out that to you is obviously not familiar with this subject and the way this is handled in Serbia. Since 2006 all municipalites which are constituting cities are officially called City Municipality, or Gradska Opština. I tried to explain that, but you deleted it anyway. That is fully applied only in Belgrade and Niš, and partially in Vranje, Užice, Požarevac and Novi Sad. That doesn’t mean that it is urban, as opposed to rural, but that it administratively constitutes a larger city. It is not an independent municipality, but part of something. Former popular division in Belgrade, on 10 urban and 6 suburban municiaplites (Surčin came later) was never official administrative division, but a practical and colloquial one. Present city administration announced that it will divide the municiaplities in the urban/suburban manner, but it hasn’t happen yet. So, city municipality is part of the city whether it is statistically or practically urban or suburban or rural or mixed.

Also, there is a difference between the (regular) municipality and city municipality. City municipalities are lesser municipalities when it comes to the jurisdiction they have as many of their administrative rights and powers have been transferred to the city level. So, Municipality of Crna Trava, with 1,000 people, has more administrative jurisdiction over its territory, than City Municipality of New Belgrade, with 215,000 inhabitants which is part of the City of Belgrade.

As for the „city municipality“ as an idiom, it is possible that there is a better term, but urban is neither synonymous nor correct in this case. Statistically speaking, there is only a handfull of “urban neighborhoods“ in Serbia, that is, those which have no rural parts: city municipalities of Savski Venac, Vračar, Stari Grad, Zvezdara, Rakovica (all in Belgrade) and Sevojno (in Užice) and municipality of Sremski Karlovci. Still, there are articles on Wikipedia which have City Municipality in their titles, there are half milion hits on Google and you can also check specialized sites, like this one: http://www.citypopulation.de/php/serbia-admin.php So, I will edit it back, maybe with an explanation so that it will be obvious why they are called that way. Regards PajaBG (talk) 14:23, 24 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Who told you that it makes no sense? Why it makes no sense? There is an 8 years old redirect link for city municipality on this very encyclopedia and on the municipality page to which it redirects there are two mentions of city municipalities. It is not a bad move that you created articles on city municipalities. I really don’t understand you. And by the way there isn’t any kind of division of Belgrade city municipalities, urban, suburban, whatever. They are all the equal. On Wikipedia there are 11 pages for city municipalities in Slovenia, articles on city municipalities in Lithuania, administrative division of Thailand, municipalities in Montenegro…Just look how much Slovenes spread the usage of the term, there are over 500 pages, why are you so afraid of the administrators? With everything I wrote to you previously, my suggestion is to keep city municipality cause I’m afraid that you are not making sense, not the term, cause it is the official, legal name of those municipalities which is simply mentioned in one line in the entire article and you are making all this fuss about it? PajaBG (talk) 15:17, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Rename these articles: --SrpskiAnonimac (talk) 15:46, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:Defunct urban municipalities of Kragujevac -> Category:Former urban municipalities of Kragujevac
 * Category:Defunct urban municipalities of Novi Sad -> Category:Former urban municipalities of Novi Sad
 * City municipality of Novi Sad -> Urban municipality of Novi Sad
 * City municipality of Vranje -> Urban municipality of Vranje
 * City municipality of Požarevac -> Urban municipality of Požarevac

Should not the name of the municipality be written capital letters, example: Urban/City Municipality of Novi Sad, not Urban/City municipality of Novi Sad ? --SrpskiAnonimac (talk) 15:59, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Category:Urban Municipality of Novi Sad, this article needs to be deleted, it's unnecessary, there is not even on Wikipedia in Serbian language --SrpskiAnonimac (talk) 16:04, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Ok. Tell him to wipe that article --SrpskiAnonimac (talk) 16:45, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Frankly, I would suggest to you to let sleeping dogs lie, that is, not to open the question of “city municipality” yourself. If someone has a problem with it, then you/we should react. That is the legal name in Serbia, Slovenia, Lithuania, etc., and if the coinage didn’t exist until now in English language, then we can say that we enriched it. And why shouldn’t English being under the influence from other languages? Dozens of anglicisms enter Serbian language every year, we change our syntax to accommodate the literal translation from English, while we change the pronunciation rules because of it (do you know that correct transliteration of McDonald’s is Megdonald?). Word “city” is indeed a noun, but if it acts as an adjective in city borough and city neighborhood, how is municipality a problem? Plus numerous other cases in which “city” functions this way: city hall, city park, city clerk, city administration, city government, city park, city slicker, city council, city room, city manager…So, I don’t think there is a need for you to ‘’pick on she-bear’’ :)

And now for something completely different. I see that you made a map of Belgrade which you placed on the municipalities page. Do you plan to make a pushpin-type map for Belgrade, which would be used on the pages for the settlements in the city area? PajaBG (talk) 22:55, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Fiat Srbija
Thanks for the reference. Do you feel this read correctly: "In the end, the financing consisted an investment by the government of Serbia of more than €300 million, partially in credit extended by European Investment Bank, along with contributions by Fiat of €200 million as well as a €200 million guarantee from Servizi Assicurativi del Commercio Estero (SACE)"? 842U (talk)
 * In my opinion, this is a way it should be written; I hope that I was of any help - "In the end, the financing consisted of €300 million investment by the Government of Serbia (through loan by the European Investment Bank), along with €200 million worth contributions by Fiat, as well as a €200 million guarantee by the Servizi Assicurativi del Commercio Estero (SACE). In total, total financing costs are estimated to be around €700 million".-- AirWolf  talk  11:05, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree that reads better.842U (talk) 03:32, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
 * As an aside, AirWolf, do you know if Kragujevac was damaged in the 2014 flooding in southeast Europe?
 * Yes, there were floods, but they haven't caused much damage as in other cities - . -- AirWolf  talk  13:16, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

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I could mention in passing that I'm not a fan of Dveri and didn't create the article for promotional purposes. CJCurrie (talk) 01:12, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, being a member of a national (country-level/republic-level) parliament makes one a national office-holder. I've been involved in several discussions on this point in relation to Canadian politics in years past, and the standard is the same for all countries. (For that matter, every member of the Vojvodina provincial assembly would be considered notable enough for an article as well.) CJCurrie (talk) 06:14, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I could, but it's not a priority for me. I'm currently going through the current members of national assembly. CJCurrie (talk) 07:19, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
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Bambi a.d.
Hello AirWolf, this is Bojan Stojković from PR agency Red Communication. Company Bambi pointed out to us that the logo on "Bambi a.d." Wikipedia page on english is the old version, so they offered to send you the new one so you can change the logo. Would you be interested?

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Поздрав Ненаде. Имамо проблем са мапом Београда, не приказује тачне локације, а координате буду добро укуцане. Видим да си је ти направио, па можда можеш да решиш. Примера ради чланак Велико ратно острво није добро приказан, као ни друга насеља/места итд. --MareBG (talk) 13:16, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Извињавам се, твоја мапа је у реду. Било је до мог мене, вероватно до Google Chrome, проверио сам са 7 других колега, њима је у реду. Ако икада будеш желео да си придружиш ср.вики, добро дошао! --MareBG (talk) 11:55, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

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Novak Djokovic as No. 2
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