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Guild of Copy Editors June 2023 Newsletter
Sent by Baffle gab1978 using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:38, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Nathan Chen copy edit
Hi Aiue, welcome to Wikipedia and the Guild of Copy Editors (GOCE). I'm Baffle gab1978, a GOCE project coordinator. Thank you for your work on the copy-edit (c/e) request for Nathan Chen but I noticed your c/e has stalled. If you want to continue your copy edit, please let us know on the Requests page (REQ) here. If you don't wish to continue your c/e, please mark the request with Partly done so we can credit you in the archive and someone else can continue the c/e. If you've any questions, you can ask at the Guild's Requests talk page. Thanks for your understanding. Cheers,  Baffle☿gab  00:45, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Due to lack of response here, I've struck your acceptance. Cheers,  Baffle☿gab  20:37, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

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Guild of Copy Editors December 2023 Newsletter
Message sent by Baffle gab1978 using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:53, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Eros International plc copy edit
Hi Aiue, thank you for your work on the copy-edit (c/e) request for Eros International plc but I noticed your c/e has stalled. If you want to continue your copy edit, please let us know on the Requests page (REQ) here. If you don't wish to continue your c/e, please mark the request with Partly done so we can credit you in the archive and someone else can continue the c/e. If you've any questions, you can ask at the Guild's Requests talk page. Thanks for your understanding. Cheers,  Baffle☿gab  01:53, 11 December 2023 (UTC)


 * thanks for reminding me! life has been a bit chaotic but I'll mark on the talk page that I'm continuing with it! Aiue (talk) 13:30, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * No worries; thanks for getting back to us. Cheers,  Baffle☿gab  19:49, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Requests
I have not got a response from you. Are you still working on Eros International plc on the Requests page? Mox Eden (talk) 09:15, 2 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Sorry, my computer broke! I think at this point it's good enough, but could be improved. I won't be working on it any more because my access to WP on my phone is bad and I don't feel comfortable editing there. Sorry! Aiue (talk) 22:03, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Sex assigned at birth
The article Cecilia Gentili, it's very confusing when birth sex is omitted. The text reads, "she was raped"; that implies a girl was raped when in actual fact it was a boy who was raped. Is it really standard on here to omit such detail? Reading that article I had no idea whether Cecilia was a lesbian or a transwoman and only discovered which by clicking on the NBC reference which states "assigned male at birth". Surely this encyclopedia should be as clear as a reference? "She came out as gay", which implies lesbian, which again is inaccurate as she was a boy at that stage. Say a priest sexually abused young boys (which sadly was often the case), but one of the boys transitioned, do we say "the priest sexually abused a girl"? That would be misleading and perhaps even dangerous by not recording the crime committed. It's about accuracy whilst also respecting the person's identity, for while she became a woman she was a boy at birth. Carlo Sensini (talk) 18:08, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I totally get where you're coming from! I just understood her to be a trans woman because it says later in the text that she came out as trans. I also think that the place you put 'Assigned male at birth' could perhaps be changed if you really feel the need to include it, because placing it right at the start of her early life section feels like a bit of undue focus. Perhaps making it clearer that she's a trans woman would help? Wikipedia is mead to present information that has no particular point of view. Also, I don't particularly think your priest comparison works here, because we are not making a case for her rapist to be in jail. We're explaining part of the motivation for her activism. The fact she was raped while presenting as a boy had little importance here. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Gender Identity for more about the way we handle gender identity and trans people. I'll go ahead and switch some of the language up to make it more clear. Aiue (talk) 20:23, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Yeah I read further down and it does say transgender, but even still we had to wade through a paragraph of confusion before we get to that part. I'd have thought it would be best to clarify from the start of the early life section, that way we can understand that yes, she now identifies as a woman, but she was raped while a boy; saying "she was raped" is fine, but in the knowledge she was born male. I felt the need to click on that NBC reference just to be sure of her status (and it does clarify matters immediately). I mentioned the priest for the purpose of clarity, as although there was no criminal case it is still a serious issue, thus recording it as a crime against a boy. I'm completely on board with respecting a person's identity, but it's an issue of clarity. Cheers. Carlo Sensini (talk) 00:15, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, honestly at some point I might go ahead and copyedit that whole article as a lot of the language is confusing. I hope the way I wrote 'began to identify as a woman' made it clearer? Aiue (talk) 12:10, 9 February 2024 (UTC)