User talk:Ajcfreak/Archives/Others

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Re: Adoption
Sure! Definitely... What am I supposed to do? Pretty new to this whole wiki-concept... But am head-over-heels in love with it! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ajcfreak (talk • contribs) 18:25, 11 May 2007 (UTC).
 * Great! I changed the userbox on your page so it now shows that I have adopted you. You can contact on my talk page or via email. Do you ever use IRC? Are you intrested in doing any vandalism reversion? Cheers! -- M s  c  h  e  l  19:09, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry bout the late reply! I didn't login over the weekend. Anyways, I don't use IRC. Never have... But could start, if necessary. Would be better if we could just stick to email/talk pages. So.. how do we start going about this adoption business? Ajcfreak 11:50, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

And I forgot to answer your question reg Vandalism - damn interested in it, although I dunno how, nor have I ever done it. I have seen other users/admins reverting vandal edits, though :) But til now, I've restrained myself to verifying information provided in the few pages that I visit/search out and finding appropriate references where/when necessary. Ajcfreak 11:53, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't wory about IRC, just stick to email and talk page. So you want to start learning by learning to revert vandalism? -- M s  c  h  e  l  11:58, 14 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure! What do we do first? Ajcfreak 12:13, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, got to Special:Recentchanges, click "Hide logged in users", you should see a list of recent edits. Click "diff" by one of them if the new revision is vandalism then click "Edit" next to the last good version. Then add an edit summary along the lines of "RV Vandalism", and save the page. Once you have done that, come back here and I will tell you how to warn the vandal. -- M s  c  h  e  l  12:23, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Done! Man... Can't believe that there are SOOOO many people fighting vandalism at the same time!!!!! Many pages I tried checking had already been reverted to previous edits. Other pages which I was about to revert got reverted while I was reviewing the page history... Finally found some vandalism on Fat which I reverted. Hope I did the right thing... Ajcfreak 13:15, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Good job! Now I will tell you about a toll to make it easy. It is called TWINKLE. To add it go to your monobook and add the following to it.

importScript('User:AzaToth/twinkle.js');
 * Then clear your cache. When you go to a diff next it will have a thing that says "Rollback" above it. To revert a vandalism just click "Rollback Vandal" and it will revert. Try it out, tell me what you think. -- M s  c  h  e  l  13:22, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Seems to be a good tool - but there must be something wrong that I'm doing. I now have the 'Restore this version' link above the version on my left and three Rollback options above the revision shown on the right - [rollback (AGF)] || [rollback] || [rollback (VANDAL)]. However, I've tried both the "restore this version" link AND the "rollback (VANDAL)" link - Nothing happens. Tried it on quite a few pages. IE returns an error at the bottom "Error on page"........ Confused. Also, could you check my monobook.js thingy and tell me whether what I've done is what should be done? Thanks a ton! Ajcfreak 14:31, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I also see on your talk page that you've got additional coding to make the entire thingy a full-fledged JAVA program. Should I do the same? I'm sorry - I'm feeling like a total misfit here! I dunno anythin about this part at all. Pls help!!!! Sorry if I'm being a pain... (Although I like reverting Vandal edits that I'm proceeding with doing that without the help of the tool!!!) Ajcfreak 15:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Your doing great! Don't get frustrated, I had to go to the house of one of my adoptees and fix his computer, so your not actually doing that bad. Did you try clearing your browsers cache? The other code in my monobook is not related, you can ignore it. Do you have Java installed? -- M s  c  h  e  l  15:18, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Man, you are encouraging. Yes, Java is installed. And I've cleared my entire cache - cookies, webpages... :) And there wouldn't be anyways that u cud fly out to India and clear it, would der??? :D Anyways, any recollection on how the error on that other adoptee's comp was resolved? Thanks! Ajcfreak 16:05, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Does anything happen at all when you click rollback? Do you just click it and nothing changes at all? -- M s  c  h  e  l  20:46, 14 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Nope. When I click [Rollback] the only thing that happens is that I get the status message at the bottom of my Internet Explorer window, which says 'Error on page' Ajcfreak 10:08, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, I know what the problem is. Would it be possible for you to use Firefox? It is a much better browser anyway. -- M s  c  h  e  l  12:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure. Will try it out and let you know if it works.... :) Ajcfreak 12:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If this is too much trouble then just forget it, I think you would like Firefox better (for non-Wikipedia reasons) but there are other tools that IE can run that you might try out. Do you need help with the installation? -- M s  c  h  e  l  12:57, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Works like a charm! I've always wanted to try out Firefox - basically cos its being promoted by Google and I'm an ardent Google fan. Installed it - reverted an edit on a userpage. Could u chk it and lemme know whether its a valid revert? Ajcfreak 14:07, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Great! Your revert was definatly a good one. -- M s  c  h  e  l  14:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * So now what? I'm continuing with reverting Vandal edits... Just did one on the Butane page. Anythin else for now or do I just continue with this? Ajcfreak 14:31, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

OK, you've got TWINKLE. Now I will tell you how to warn vandals. When you click ROLLBACK it should be opening a new window or a new tab with the talk page of the vandal. You should see a strip of tabs near the top of the page. To warn a vandal you hover your mouse over one of the tabs, a menu should pop up. The tabs are labeled by the level of warning that they will produce. Level 1 assumes that the user is in good faith. Level two does not assume the user is in good or bad faith. Level three assumes the user is in bad faith. Level 4 is a final warning. In the menu you will see many different options, such as "vandalism" and "page blanking, removal". You want to click the option that is most relevant to the vandalism you reverted. "Vandalism" is just for regular vandalism, such as adding "JAMES STINKS!!!!!!!!!!" to a page. "Page blanking, removal" is for vandalism where the user removed a large amount of material from a page. "editing tests" is for when you think the user was just trying to find out if he could really edit the page or what would happen when he did etc. There are many others, if you think one may be more relevant then just click it and show a preview to make sure it is what you think it is. Firefox may block pop-ups, if it is then in Firefox go to "Edit" click "Preferences" at the top of the window that pops up click the button that says "Content", you should see something that says "Block pop-up windows" on the right of that there will be a button that says "exceptions", click it, a window will pop up, type in the textbox in that window "en.wikipedia.org"and press allow. That should fix it. -- M s  c  h  e  l  14:43, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ummm... Help, please. I reverted a page which had been cleared by an unknown IP. I didn't realise that it was his own unknown IP's Talk page which he had blanked. You may find the history of that page here - But when I selected a template to warn him, only my template went onto his page - all the previous warnings got deleted. How to avoid this error in the future?

Btw, thanks for the tip about allowing popups. I had to do that to get the subsequent "warn vandals" templates.... :) Ajcfreak 15:08, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * What happened is that when you revert an edit made by a user to his own talk page his talk page loads in a new windows before the changes have been saved, that way it loaded the version before yours, so when you saved the page all it had was the new warning. Sorry, that was really cryptic, just tell me if you did not understand it. By the way, you might not want to revert blanking users do to their own talk pages, although removing warnings from ones own talk page is strongly discouraged, it is not forbidden. -- M s  c  h  e  l  15:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Understood it perfectly. Thanks a ton for taking the time out! Anyways, truth of the matter is that I didn't realise it was his talk page until I'd done the revert... :D Feel a lil sheepish about that. Anyways, guess I'm learning.... Thanks. Will keep at this. Ajcfreak 15:21, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * One more Q. Each page that I de-vandalise gets onto my Watchlist. Any code that I could modify in my monobook.js to NOT have this happen? Ajcfreak 16:03, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Add the following to your monobook.

TwinkleConfig = { revertMaxRevisions             :       50, userTalkPageMode               :       'window', showSharedIPNotice             :       false, openTalkPage                   :       [ 'agf', 'norm', 'vand' ], openTalkPageOnAutoRevert       :       true, openAOLAnonTalkPage            :       true, summaryAd                      :       "", deletionSummaryAd              :       "", protectionSummaryAd            :       "", watchSpeedyPages               :       [ 'g3', 'g5', 'g10', 'g11', 'g12' ], watchProdPages                 :       true, openUserTalkPageOnSpeedyDelete :       [ 'g1', 'g2', 'g10', 'g11', 'g12', 'a1', 'a7', 'i3', 'i4', 'i5', 'i6', 'i7', 'u3', 't1' ], watchRevertedPages             :       [ ], markRevertedPagesAsMinor       :       [ ], deleteTalkPageOnDelete         :       false, markWarningsAsMinor            :       false, markAIVReportAsMinor           :       false, markSpeedyPagesAsMinor         :       false, markProdPagesAsMinor           :       false, confirmUsernameToAIV           :       true }; This will also change a bunch of other settings. (I just took this out of my own monobook) -- M s  c  h  e  l  16:09, 15 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey! Everythin's workin great! I'm havin tonnes of fun knockin those vandals right outta the park. Its real real fun. So what next, my most excellent adopter? a JC freak y A <font color="#FF6600">k <font color="#9999FF">B <font color="#3399FF">A <font color="#FF3333">k  14:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

New Pages
I think I will tell you how to patrol new pages. First you go to Special:Newpages, you will see a list of recently created pages. Got to one of them. If the page meets the criteria for speedy deletion then click the TWINKLE tab that says "db(csd)", a list will come up. Click the circle by the appropriate criteria for speedy deletion, be careful, as soon as you click it, it will nominate it. Got to the creators talk page, if the user has not created an inappropriate page before then go to the page you nominated for deletion and copy the thing that the speedy deletion template suggests you put on the creators talk page, then paste it on to the user talk page. If the user has created other inappropriate pages then give him a "creation" warning from the TWINKLE warn tab. -- M s  c  h  e  l  14:53, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey check it out - I placed the CSD template on Sapzblog and warned the author at User_talk:Javabite. Chk it out and temme yer comments. Btw, this dialogue has become too huge to be maintained in one main heading, so created the sub. Probly should've done that ages ago! :) <font color="#0000FF">a <font color="#FF0000">JC <font color="#0000FF">freak <font color="#CC66FF">y <font color="#66CC00">A <font color="#FF6600">k <font color="#9999FF">B <font color="#3399FF">A <font color="#FF3333">k  15:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Good job! You did that just right. As far as headings go, next time you have a question that is not related to anything in this section you can just make a new subject at the bottom of my talk page. -- M s  c  h  e  l  15:22, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Advise, please
While RC patrolling today, I came across the AIIMS, (a top medical Institute in India) article which had major chunks of possibly damaging/controversial material removed by an anon IP 210.7.93.119. I reverted the edit and then realised that much of the deleted content was actually unverifiable and sounded like a personal commentary on a raging issue. I reformatted the citations and commenting out REALLY harmful, unverifiable stuff. Now the user of the anon IP has left a message |here. And I've replied to that user |here. I've also written about this to Riana asking for her advise. I'm asking you as your adoptee (sounds funky - that line!) - is there anything that I could've done better? Apparently, this could be a person who has edited that article in Good Faith. What to do? Shall I just sit around and wait for his next reply/move? Any help, would be much appreciated. <font color="#0000FF">a <font color="#FF0000">JC <font color="#0000FF">freak <font color="#CC66FF">y <font color="#66CC00">A <font color="#FF6600">k <font color="#9999FF">B <font color="#3399FF">A <font color="#FF3333">k  18:58, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Riana is much more experienced then I am, so go with her call. You also might want to strike out the warning that you left on the users talk page. Don't remove it, just strike it out. -- M s  c  h  e  l  23:27, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I was wondering how to revert my warning on his page. I didn't realise the possibility of striking it out - was about to blank it out. Thanks for the tip. You're great. I'll go through the extensive list of points stated by that user and see what I can do to the article. Thanks, man. Am I glad I'm adopted or what??? <font color="#0000FF">a <font color="#FF0000">JC <font color="#0000FF">freak <font color="#CC66FF">y <font color="#66CC00">A <font color="#FF6600">k <font color="#9999FF">B <font color="#3399FF">a <font color="#FF3333">K  09:28, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

=Riana=

Help required, if free
Hi. While RC patrolling today, I came across the AIIMS, (a top medical Institute in India) article which had major chunks of possibly damaging/controversial material removed by an anon IP 210.7.93.119. I reverted the edit and then realised that much of the deleted content was actually unverifiable and sounded like a personal commentary on a raging issue. Hence, I dove(or is it dived?!) in head-first and kinda re-wrote the article as much as possible - reformatting the citations and commenting out REALLY harmful, unverifiable stuff. Now the user of the anon IP has left a message |here. And I've replied to that user |here. I would like your advise. I definitely do not want you to "step in" or anything. Just advise... as in - did I do somethin wrong? Or was there somethin that I could've done better? Am asking you cos you're one who's really caught my eye. :) Don't worry - me not sitting and worrying. Reply as late as ya wanna... <font color="#0000FF">a <font color="#FF0000">JC <font color="#0000FF">freak <font color="#CC66FF">y <font color="#66CC00">A <font color="#FF6600">k <font color="#9999FF">B <font color="#3399FF">A <font color="#FF3333">k  18:55, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks... And I REALLY can't say that loudly enough. I didn't even know that there was somethin such as WP:NLT or stuff like that. Your support has encouraged me, if not anythin else. But I guess there's nobody on that side who's got the time/will to re-write that entire article. Looks like I'm gonna be spending quite sometime on it. Anyways, thanks once again! <font color="#0000FF">a <font color="#FF0000">JC <font color="#0000FF">freak <font color="#CC66FF">y <font color="#66CC00">A <font color="#FF6600">k <font color="#9999FF">B <font color="#3399FF">a <font color="#FF3333">K  18:38, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

=Anon IP over AIIMS article=

May 2007
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent contribution removed content from All_India_Institute_of_Medical_Sciences. Please be more careful when editing articles and do not remove content from Wikipedia without a good reason, which should be specified in the edit summary. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Ajcfreak 09:46, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Jus thought I'd add this note to editors who might come across this page. The above was a warning which was given by me earlier since I thought it was a vandal edit. However, it appears that I've erred and that the user seems to have been acting in GF. Hence, I've struck out the vandalism warning. And to the user, I'm really sorry that I issued this warning. <font color="#0000FF">a <font color="#FF0000">JC <font color="#0000FF">freak <font color="#CC66FF">y <font color="#66CC00">A <font color="#FF6600">k <font color="#9999FF">B <font color="#3399FF">a <font color="#FF3333">K  09:25, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

AIIMS Verifiability
Verifiability of content on Wikipedia are according to these guidelines. Please note that truth is not the important issue here. Wikipedia being an encyclopedia, has to have content which is verified in trusted printed sources. The Hindu is one of our nation's leading newspapers and hence it is a source which cannot be considered as verified. Please understand that I mean your Institution or its leaders any harm. I came across the article while patrolling recent changes and saw that quite a bit of content had been blanked out without explanation on the talk pages. As you may well find, I then spent a good deal of time cleaning up the links and commenting out entire sections which were extremely damaging to the image of the institution and other persons involved. Further, when a newspaper publishes the report of a Special Enquiry committee setup by the Government of India, then it definitely falls under the category of reliable sources.

I mean you no harm. However, if you feel that I am editing the content of this page in a wrong manner, I would be glad if you could let me know as to the exact specific points where I have made mistakes. I am learning, myself. Add to that the fact that I am human, I do make mistakes now and then. I trust you take this in the right spirit! In the future, if I feel any content that you add/subtract from the AIIMS article violates the guidelines of Wikipedia, then I will go ahead and edit it. This is, after all, Wikipedia. Cheers! <font color="#0000FF">a <font color="#FF0000">JC <font color="#0000FF">freak <font color="#CC66FF">y <font color="#66CC00">A <font color="#FF6600">k <font color="#9999FF">B <font color="#3399FF">A <font color="#FF3333">k  18:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * To add to the above, if you feel that the article can be better written in a format suitable for an Encyclopedia, please go ahead... Jump in and completely revise the article! This is what Wikipedia's all about, I guess. Cheers, again! <font color="#0000FF">a <font color="#FF0000">JC <font color="#0000FF">freak <font color="#CC66FF">y <font color="#66CC00">A <font color="#FF6600">k <font color="#9999FF">B <font color="#3399FF">A <font color="#FF3333">k  18:48, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey, thanks for the detailed reply. Jus logged in today, will definitely go through it and see what I can do. But please understand that if there is something that you think could be written in a better way, you are completely free to go ahead and edit it!!! This is Wikipedia.... :) Have fun. <font color="#0000FF">a <font color="#FF0000">JC <font color="#0000FF">freak <font color="#CC66FF">y <font color="#66CC00">A <font color="#FF6600">k <font color="#9999FF">B <font color="#3399FF">a <font color="#FF3333">K  09:20, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Legal threat
Hey, please do not remove the content from my page. If you so wish to nullify what you said earlier, you might place ... before and after your comments so that they appear to have been struck out. I prefer to keep what you said. Don't worry - I'm harmless. I'm not gonna use it against you. But I'd rather like to keep it. So please leave it.... And btw, might interest you to know that I'm spending considerable amount of time trying to bring the AIIMS article up-to-date. Adios, for now. <font color="#0000FF">a <font color="#FF0000">JC <font color="#0000FF">freak <font color="#CC66FF">y <font color="#66CC00">A <font color="#FF6600">k <font color="#9999FF">B <font color="#3399FF">a <font color="#FF3333">K  18:35, 17 May 2007 (UTC)