User talk:Ajlewis35

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Ajlewis35. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the request edit template);
 * disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Conflict of interest);
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Spam);
 * do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. MrOllie (talk) 21:16, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

I would like to know how permission can be granted for a simple change such as this. There is no conflict of interest, as i am a blood relative (brother) of the biography subject. intent is to remove the countless lines of misinformation (old) that is associated to the page.

Please advise.

PS - I would also like to appeal the COI charge, as my post was extremely benign in nature, and not persuasive or biased in any way. The biography page requires major changes and are causing professional harm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajlewis35 (talk • contribs)


 * As an editor with a conflict of interest (a relative of the article subject is an obvious conflict), you may propose changes on the talk page associated with the article. Please read all the links in the above message. I don't think deleting most of the material that made him notable in the first place is going to be likely to be accepted, though. - MrOllie (talk) 21:41, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

I understand the nature of a true COI, despite the nature of my changes which I again reiterate were necessary and factual (I realized that after I read the guidelines, and apologize)  However, a large majority of the information that was deleted is either no longer relevant, factual or timely. I can supply the biography holder (my brother's) contact information if need be. Unfortunately, the inaccurate and dated information associated wiht his page is causing significant professional harm. I appreciate your status as a volunteer and do not wish to be combative. I simply wish to update the page to reflect the true nature of his professional and personal highlights.

Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajlewis35 (talk • contribs)


 * I think you'll find that 'no longer relevant' or 'timely' is basically never a reason to delete something from Wikipedia. Our biography about Isaac Newton isn't timely, either, but no one's going to delete that. The biographical subject does not own their Wikipedia page and has no special control over it, so there is no reason to supply contact information. Just read up on the policies and use the article talk page from now on - we have that process for good reason. - MrOllie (talk) 21:54, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

I absolutely think the biography page is wrong, not timely, and in need of changes. (when did anybody say anything about "owning" the page?)  I'm simply making ACCURATE edits that any person may do, based on the standards you refer to. In reality, what you are telling me is...if I just wanted to update it...and I was just a random person...it would be fine, as long as I had a link (From anywhere mind you) as reference? So if I did not have a connection with the page subject, I would have MORE rights and permissions to add ANYTHING I like? Conflict of interest is relevant if bending public information for reputation based gain. Taking out (incorrect) information that is no longer relevant does not at all seem to me improper or against policy. If your logic regarding biographies is MORE friendly to random strangers with no insight than the actual person/subject, then that is one seriously dangerous concept...which I guess is common knowledge re: this website. Thanks for reminding me that nobody in their right mind should ever reference it, let alone edit it. As soon as you compared my musician brother with Isaac Newton, I knew this was going nowhere.

Happy New Year

PS - I know you are just a volunteer moderator, but this whole "talk page" feedback thing here? Is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.