User talk:Akibah

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The Gifts of the Spirit in Mormonism

Approved by Justin Michael Doran on April 13, 2015.

Your submission at Articles for creation: Gifts of the Spirit in Mormonism (April 18)
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Fiddle  Faddle  15:28, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Reply to your Articles for Creation Help Desk question
Hello, Akibah! I'm Timtrent. I have replied to your question about a submission at the WikiProject Articles for Creation Help Desk. Fiddle  Faddle  19:16, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Referencing
Your challenge is to find references that are not with (eg) Mosiah, which I imagine to be an LDS text, in the same way that (eg) The Gospel according to Luke cannot be used as a reference for Anglican doctrine. You need to work out how to move away from primary sources. This will make a great course discussion, the more so if all your colleagues are also writing about religion. Fiddle  Faddle  20:43, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

I understand your point I think. But to me, the structure isn't parallel. The Bible could not be used to explain Anglican doctrine because there are hundreds of Christian groups who all understand the text differently. It is not self-apparent. For Mormons, there really are not different groups to my knowledge that would use their unique texts. More importantly, for the most part, in my 4 paragraphs of text I am mainly using secondary literature for support. References to Mormon scripture is really only used for the list of spiritual gifts at the end. I am not interpreting these references or offering analysis. I just thought it would be helpful to see a list. I have access to several encyclopedias devoted towards religion in the library, and some of the articles contain lists of references to the phenomena they are describing. For instance in the Anchor Bible Dictionary article on miracles, they have primary source references to various places miracles are found. If that is a problem in Wikipedia, how would I reformat?


 * I think this requires a discussion with your professor. The issue I see is primary sources "at all", except that they can be used to be a reference for uncontroversial facts.
 * I would be inclined to split the categories. The scripture elements are, I think "notes" and the other elements are references. What you do not know yet is that you can have multiple named groups within the reference scheme. Now you have explained what you are using each for, I suggest grouping. Look at Reflist and specifically at group names. List of gymnasts has this deployed as an example for you to look at. This may solve the initial predicament and let you concentrate on the article itself. Fiddle   Faddle  22:12, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

That makes sense. Thank you for the suggestion!


 * Good work. I gave you a formatting gift as a thank you. the asterisk is a magic character for us, as is the # when used at the start of a line. Fiddle   Faddle  22:37, 18 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Ok, now books: Cite book has a whole set of parameters. When citing a book, online or offline, the page number (etc) is an important part of the citation. We need to make the work of the article reader as easy as possible. Lack of page numbering (or similar) will hinder acceptance. Choose your parameters well and make citations the fullest that you can.
 * Did you know that you can make judicious use of the quote parameter, too? Be abstemious with the length of passages you quote. Epsom College has examples of how to use quote parameters well in the Alumni section
 * I bet you never started this thinking you would be learning a whole coding language! Fiddle   Faddle  22:45, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
 * There is a whole family of citation templates you don't know about. I just had a look at the text and find you aren't using them. It's ok not to, but boy do they help you stay consistent. Look, too, at Cite web. I wish your class had mentioned these before you started, because converting now is annoying, but, honestly, is worth it.
 * On the bright side, just look how much help and advice you can give your colleagues! Fiddle   Faddle  22:50, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Gifts of the Spirit in Mormonism has been accepted
 Gifts of the Spirit in Mormonism, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as C-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. . Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! Fiddle  Faddle  16:18, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
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This is so much developed from the draft I reviewed initially that I feel comfortable in a second review, something I try not to do. I wish the article well. Now, I know this is part of your course, but be careful of one thing. Now it is in the wild any editor can edit it. You need to cope with that, and avoid WP:OWN, however tempting it is to try to keep control of the article. Yes, edit away with pleasure, add value to it whenever you can, but now be the father of the article, not its mother. Fiddle  Faddle  16:21, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

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