User talk:Aktsu/Archives/2009/May

can you check this out?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TreyGeek#Excuse_me.3F.3F seems like TreyGeek has a problem with my articles, i cite all of my sources, i think he is just over zealous.Sepulwiki 05:25, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Matthew Granahan
This attempted removal of the Granimal from Wikipedia has been a major discussion with my friend's and I tonight. We feel it's part of a much larger issue. In order to be notable or successful in pro wrestling today you have to be a gymnast. It's all about who can put themselves through the most tables and get hit the hardest in the head by a steel chair. The idiots at the top of the WWE don't know a wristlock from a wrist watch and the Granimal would wipe the mat with their heads. I had the honor of wrestling with Granimal in the independents in CT and he had a little game he played before each show. He'd line up whatever guys were brave (or dumb) enough to take the Granimal challenge. The Granimal challenge was $50 to any guy who could last a minute (60 freakin' seconds) against him without getting submitted. He ran this game at a number of shows and I only know of one guy who won the $50. You need to educate yourself my friend. Granahan is one of the last men alive who has been trained by the last living carnival wrestlers mainly Frankie Cain and Billy Wicks. He's highly respected by Gene Lebell. In case you don't know Gene Lebell's the MFIN' GODFATHER OF GRAPPLING and he lists Granimal's American Combat Association as his top link on his website http://www.genelebell.com/links.html or maybe you're a mark who doesn't want to know who Gene Lebell and Granimal are because reality's a little too hard for you to swallow. Do a little bit of research bro before you start trashing a man that could have you and I for a morning snack before he eats his breakfast and coffee! Respond back in the comments section of the Granimal Deletion article after you've educated yourself a litte more on one of my heros. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yankeemonster (talk • contribs) 03:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The criteria for inclusion on Wikipedia is not being popular among friends (or any group of people) but having received "significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject" (see Notability (people)). Your best bet for changing people's minds is probably to try to show that such coverage exists. Cheers, -- aktsu (t / c) 09:10, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:CSD F9
Actually, you were correct in tagging them under F9. It covers Images that are claimed by the uploader to be images with free licenses when this is obviously not the case. And you provided the proof of this fact with the links to the images. You were completely correct with the tagging. Keep up the good work! :) Thingg &#8853; &#8855;  15:05, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

How come you reported my images?
Even the ones I released the rights too? I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind this? At first I skipped that step by mistake, but was in the process of going back and correcting the mistakes when you changed them, and reported them. Isn't it common policy to at least give some one a short amount of time to correct mistakes? --Steve406sbc (talk)76.105.143.142 (talk) 12:33, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Beacause all of them were obviously screenshots of copyrighted videos. Cheers, -- aktsu (t / c) 13:07, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

WikiBirthday
I saw from here that it's been exactly one year since you joined the project. Happy WikiBirthday! Keep up the good work, r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 13:58, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Edit War / UFC 101
Hey Aktsu, I'm trying to discuss the topic with Lordvader2009, however he seems less than receptive to it, and slightly uncivil. I've noticed in his talk history that he has a long standing tradition of making speculative edits and other types of vandalism.

--Drr-darkomen (talk) 18:47, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks... I appreciate you helping out. --Drr-darkomen (talk) 18:49, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Thought?
I know I bother you-but you at least answer me and know more on here than me- But a Subject came up on the Wikiproject page.

2 things.

1. If a fighter has not fought in 3 years- we consider him "done" and remove the redlinks, if they have not become noteable yet- and 3 years of Nada (per Sherdog) then they more than likely will not do anything.

2. My idea on having a "other characters" on the TUF show- Look at the ones such as these - Jeff_Dye almost all the TUF were on TV longer than this guy was.

3. How about this as a line for notable-not notable 10 or 15 fights WITH at least one from a top tier organization (UFC/Pride/Affliction?Dream?)

Is there a spot where we can get things like this resolved by vote or an admin so I can get this done?

David.snipes (talk) 21:28, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, not problem!


 * 1) Sounds very reasonable to me.
 * 2) Without actually knowing anything about the show Dye was one I'd say he sound pretty non-notable. Using the existence of his or other articles to argue for articles for all people on TUF would probably not work per WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS.
 * 3) Getting some sort of consensus for where we draw the line would probably be a good idea but I'm not sure that specifically is a good criteria as quite a few clearly notable people would fail it (first that comes to mind is Sokoudjou but I'm sure there's better examples). WT:MMA would definetly be the place to start the discussion but we'd probably also need to take it over to WP:ATHLETE eventually. Also, all content disputed are decided by concensus; admins have no more say then anyone else.
 * Hope that's somewhat helpful :) Cheers, -- aktsu (t / c) 19:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I did UFC 1&2 and will be working my way forward. Can you start the WP:MMA so we can start getting some uniformity here? I'm not saying 15 fights is the bottom line- Rashad Evans hasn;t hit 15 fights yet he is notable- I'm talking about the lower "tier" guysDavid.snipes (talk) 14:58, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I have completed 1&2 - there are still 4 fighters Redlinked as they match the outlines I posted above Let me know how to proceed as I can Stub them out if needed. David.snipes (talk) 17:49, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I don't really think any of them should have articles to be honest. The two closes to being notable in my book is Pardoel and Frazier but as they have mostly fought in minor promotion I wouldn't bother creating anything on them. You can if you want and they would probably survive AFD but the effort would be better placed elsewhere IMO. -- aktsu (t / c) 18:03, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

No argument there- But I figured If I was going to try to standardize the MMA section I had better start at the Beginning. Can you start the WP:MMA and see if we can get some kind of cut and dry solution here? - Off to UFC 3! David.snipes (talk) 18:14, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

User:Lordvader2009 up on ANI
Hey Aktsu. I want to mention to you that there is a discussion on the Admin Notice board in regards to User:Lordvader2009. The initial complaint was blanking of their own talk page, which is okay. But it seems that the folks there might be willing to listen to issues of incivility, (borderline) edit warring, and other incidences of being unhelpful. Not sure if you have any desire to say anything on this issue or not, but thought to mention it to you just in case. --TreyGeek (talk) 14:49, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know :) -- aktsu (t / c) 18:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I may have done a bad thing
But I got a little tired of trying to find a consensus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mixed_martial_arts/notable

How does that work?

Give it a week- see what the people think. Then we stub them or Kill the links. David.snipes (talk) 22:42, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/62.24.236.135
Any chance you could help out with the Link spamming from this IP on UFC 98? I warned... I reverted twice... don't want to get tagged by the 3 revert rule. Thanks. --Drr-darkomen (talk) 18:27, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've reverted their latest edit. I wonder if an admin could be convinced to block the IP.  Their only edits are to include links for the same website and a questionable edit to Mirrors and forks/Def.  If it were a registered user, I'm sure the account would be blocked for being a purely non-constructive account.  Unsure if the same thought process can be applied to anon IPs. (Twinkle doesn't think so.) --TreyGeek (talk) 18:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

The Ultimate Fighter: United States vs. United Kingdom Finale
I was just about to undo my own edit, but you beat me to it. :) --Drr-darkomen (talk) 17:38, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Darren M Jackson
There is sourse for the debate as you will see in ref 7, it was a paper artcile with a Debate with Howard Stoat, also the article was scanned and emailed to BIBLO see archive pages, and is mentioned else where in the artcile,also I have spent hours trolling births and deaths and there is a direct conection between DMJ and HJ Great grandfather, so I have now cited the birth and marriage records.--Diamonddannyboy (talk) 06:36, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

I can list all relatives up to present from the birth records, but it will be a bit long winded, if some reading wikipedia sees the article I have directed them to the source.--Diamonddannyboy (talk) 06:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


 * In accordance with my comments here, I'd rather not get further involved with him. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 10:18, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, obviously wrong link. Now I got to figure out where in my work someone's going to be annoyed at me.

Machida - Controversy
Not sure what your problem is, I posted relevant information about Machida with source and you go delete it? Urine drinking might be trivial in Japan my friend, but I can assure you that in the rest of the civilised world it is quite controversial. My edit complies with the wiki guidelines and is both relevant and interesting. I'll keep updating it, and if you keep removing this information I'll raise it as an issue with the admins, do you really think that your reasoning that this FACT is trivia and not controversy will hold water? Rather sanctimonious of you don't you think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unregisturd (talk • contribs) 03:36, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey Aktsu, i have a question about his listed fighting style, i dont think there is officially recognized such thing like "Machida karate". Also do you have any source of him practicing sumo? its definitely not his primary fighting style i'm sure of that. thx.Marty Rockatansky (talk) 22:30, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I know you guys like to list all kinda different arts under the "primary style" but i don't know sumo is kinda stretching it. I definitely agree with Shotokan it was his first martial art he studied under his father and had a major influence on developing him as a fighter.Marty Rockatansky (talk) 23:23, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * no problem bro. i'm sure we'll be hearing a lot of Machida karate school, the way his career is going. once you practice it you're in it for life, successful career is just the beginning, another to is to share the knowledge with the future generations. thats how you've completed your life missison as a successful karateka.Marty Rockatansky (talk) 23:44, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Flags on MMA-articles
Hi, I just noticed a never responded to your message on my talk. My apologies. I don't know if it's still an issue, but if I look at the UFC 97 article it does not seem to comply with wp:mosicon. To me it looks messy and also because it only shows the flags, but not the name of the country. Almost everyone knows the US flag but the Dutch flag already is more difficult. Is the martial artist from the Netherlands or from Luxembourg? The same as in World Victory Road Presents: Sengoku 7. My preference is just to remove all the flags and write the actual name of the country he/she represents. But hey, I am not a huge fan of flags in articles to begin with. :) Garion96 (talk) 21:42, 31 May 2009 (UTC)