User talk:Al-bqrb-aleim

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Elohim
Welcome to Wikipedia. I see your user-name also relates to the subject of the only article you have, so far, edited. But unfortunately there may be a problem with these edits: new section on Elohim article. Firstly the main source given is some self-use software, which means the edits are unsourced. Ideally they need, for each example, a quote from a commentary saying that the verb/adjective is plural. Those where a WP:source cannot be provided will sooner of later, be removed. You probably should add sources now to the two or three uncontroversial ones, then work on the others. Cheers In ictu oculi (talk) 19:56, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, you're welcome. Unfortunately you'll still have to provide secondary sources, from scholars/commentaries saying that the verbs are singular in those cases. Just the way WP:source is. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:58, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello ictu oculi I provided a number of references from published literature available online; the subject of these plural verbs has been around for awhile but I choose to use online sources so they could be easily checked. The rest of the references are simply biblical sources that use elohim as different from YHVH the Creator. thanks for your suggestions and the helpful tone in which they were given, Al-bqrb-aleim
 * Hi again, Thanks for starting to add sources. Some of them look okay. But I'm not very sure of Joseph Wheless Is it God's word? An exposition of the fables and mythology of the Bible and the fallacies of theology, by Joseph Wheless ... New York city, Wheless publishers [1926] ... which appears to be self-published and by someone self-taught. In ictu oculi (talk) 02:44, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * OK I have also added as a reference the Bible Classic John Gill's "Exposition of the Entire Bible" which also confirms the plurality of the verb (balk-u) used with elohim in this verse. Al-bqrb-aleim


 * We rarely add credentials - we don't want seeing them to affect the reader as they are hard to interpret - 'AA' (which I removed) is meaningless, a Cambridge graduate with an MA is really just someone who got a bachelor's degree but a year later when that is automatically upgraded. A PhD may be in an irrelevant subject or from a third class university. For the same reason we don't say 'Dr Smith'. We always of course try to link to a person's article if they have one. Dougweller (talk) 18:41, 18 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I've removed the Holy Council section, reasons on the article's talk page, basically because it was original research. Dougweller (talk) 19:22, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * How many authors have to write about a subject before it is not considered original research? I am referring most especially to the subject of a council of elohim covered for example by Heiser in his "The Divine Council" the link for his work was in the section deleted.Al-bqrb-aleim (talk) 02:56, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
 * According to WP:RS even 1 notable, reliable scholar is enough - but the sources need to be clearly placed in the relevant article. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:47, 20 August 2011 (UTC)