User talk:Al Ameer son/Archive 10

DYK for Al-Ashraf Musa
The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview
Dear Al Ameer son,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, were it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:
 * Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
 * Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
 * All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
 * All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
 * The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 06:10, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ahmed Majdalani
The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Khader Adnan
Hello! Your submission of Khader Adnan at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Lihaas (talk) 03:19, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Khader Adnan
More sources on him. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 11:31, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

apologies

 * The article is definately good, but im going to apologise as im extricating meyself from this lobbyist horde run propoganda accusations/wars on WP. Keep up the good work, the article is topical and should be posted soon. Hope someone comes to review it on DYK, or try asking at the DYK talk page.
 * Every singly article (in which i add sources from BOTH sides) soon gets taken over and i lose all interest in even seeing it again. Except for the election articles i think im done with this.
 * Anyays, it could be ITN soon if hes released (or charged?)
 * 'apologies again but i cant take this shit ;)Lihaas (talk) 17:14, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks and keep up the good word. Look forward to workign together in future.
 * Looks like it [logically camt out in your favour as an absurd cry for attention against consensus. good for you. Shows your work is more than up to par ;)Lihaas (talk) 14:10, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Violation of ARBPIA
Al Ameer, you've violated the 1RR restrictions of WP:ARBPIA for these two reverts:
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 * Plot Spoiler (talk) 19:04, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * This is now being addressed at WP:AE per ARBPIA provisions. Plot Spoiler (talk) 19:14, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

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Hana Al-Shalabi‎
I was wondering if you are interested about writing an article about Hana. If you are let's get cracking. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 22:06, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I know I have been taking my sweet ass time with Hossam's article but I wonna make sure I wont face any problems when it goes live. I think we should start Hana's article as a draft under your user page (Like shown above) and use the RS that we have at the moment so more come. Meanwhile I will search for more and will post here or on the talk page if you have started the article. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 02:02, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Let me know when you start the draft. Some sources Ma'an, Al-Arabiya, AFP (on her rearrest only).  T i a m u t talk 10:03, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Sanjar al-Jawli
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DYK for Sanjar al-Jawli
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A barnstar for you!
Hey, could you expand Aqsunqur Mosque?♦ Dr. Blofeld  22:35, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Excellent, look forward to seeing it!♦ Dr. Blofeld  16:49, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

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Idlib
You say: "remove ridiculous section Gays in Idlib." / Thank you for that! I also removed it before. but they put this nonsense thing again. (If you have time, you can look at the Talk page of Idlib.) Böri (talk) 11:06, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!
Well deserved! Off hand I can think of the article on King Abdullah I Mosque which I visited and was surprised it had almost nothing in it! I've seen it on the TV on numerous occasions.. Perhaps you could find something on it. BTW if you have an articles you want to propose for GA let me know, save you waiting. I try to conduct a fair review! ♦ Dr. Blofeld  16:07, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Question
Salam Ameer,

I've noticed that an article about Apartheid in Bahrain was deleted last year for many reasons, including the user who created the article and not merely the content of it. Now I plan to write an article about Bahrain and the apartheid analogy (or similar title). The article Human rights in Bahrain is already long, inserting a lot of this will only make the problem worse, that's why I see that a new article is required. I plan to make it NPOV with RS and to write it in my own user space before moving it to the main space. Any suggestions/recommendations are welcome. Also, I have found a copy of the deleted article on a Google search, would it be fine if I use info from it? Thanks.  Mohamed CJ  (talk) 23:40, 21 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, thanks for the answer. I'll start writing it. If not enough reliable sources for apartheid can be found, then I'll change it to discrimination.  Mohamed CJ  (talk) 14:57, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Al-Jawali Mosque
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Happy Adminship Anniversary
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DYK nomination of Jubbet ad-Dib
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 * I made another comment.--Ishtar456 (talk) 17:10, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Aqsunqur Mosque
I have reviewed and largely approved your DYK nomination for the article on the Aqsunqur Mosque and have made a couple of points that need your attention. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:28, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Your proposed rewrite: Palestinian costumes
{| class="navbox collapsible collapsed" style="background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid silver; margin-top: 0.2em; " ! style="background-color: #CFC; text-align:center; font-size:112%;" | Extended content

Hi. :) I appreciate that you've undertaken this rewrite, but I'm afraid that your rewrite does not seem to be usable. :/ For instance, the duplication detector found issues in these passages:
 * style="border: solid 1px silver; padding: 8px; background-color: white; font-size:112%;" |
 * style="border: solid 1px silver; padding: 8px; background-color: white; font-size:112%;" |

The source says this:

The rewrite says this:

Some sections of this are rewritten from scratch, but others are minimal alterations of the source material or simple rearrangements. Let's take the last sentence, for example, and bold all the content that is copied verbatim from the source: "Although originally developed for the foreign market, the shawal also became populat among [omitted: st] women in Jordan and the occupied Palestinian territories as a kind of Palestinian haute couture." Other passages similarly seem to follow very closely: "named for the six vertical bands of embroidery that run from waist to hem"; " the first post-1948 style to evolve without being tied to an established regional style"; "characterized by its curvilinear foliage and flower designs and its various "branches of birds" motifs".

While facts are not copyrightable, creative elements of presentation – including both structure and language – are. Wikipedia's copyright policies require that the content we take from non-free sources, aside from brief and clearly marked quotations, be rewritten from scratch. So that we can be sure it does not constitute a derivative work, this article should be rewritten completely without content copied from or closely paraphrased from that source, except for brief and clearly marked quotations. The essay Close paraphrasing contains some suggestions for rewriting that may help avoid these issues. The article Wikipedia Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches, while about plagiarism rather than copyright concerns, also contains some suggestions for reusing material from sources that may be helpful, beginning under "Avoiding plagiarism".

There may be other passages that are problematic; after confirming those two issues from the Duplication Detector report, I did not check further. Those are enough, I'm afraid, that I cannot replace the blanked version with the proposed rewrite. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:16, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Reviewing your edit summary, I'm not entirely clear: your edit summary implies this a "partial rewrite", so I was assuming that you were not finished. You haven't edited it since, though, and I'm wondering now if you had actually done any rewriting at all? If not, if you were simply copying it over for other editors to modify, that's not the way rewrites are handled, since rewriting it in that manner can create a derivative work. If you do copy over a base, it's better to copy over a version of the article from prior to the introduction of problems, since new content can be added to it that does not cause an issue. That's why the template asks people to rewrite from scratch unless the content can be clearly removed.


 * Anyway, there is a contributor attempting a rewrite in article space, and if I can figure whether you've done any rewriting at all, I may send him or her over to that temp space to complete the work. If you haven't done any rewriting, I may replace that document with a clean copy from earlier in history. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:26, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I think I've worked this out. You haven't actually worked on the rewrite at all. You copied over the last version - removing the copyvio template. I don't see that you made a note of that to anyone, so the contributor doing the rewrite may not know. Since you're not working on it, I'm collapsing the note about the problems with it above and will supply them to that person. Next time, please make a note on the talk page. We've got quite a backlog at WP:CP, and I've spent a long time trying to figure out who was doing what here and why. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:34, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

thanks for review - and comment on paraphrasing
Thanks for your review of Template:Did you know nominations/Mohammed Saleh al-Bejadi! It waited on the DYK nominations list quite some time - although a lot less than al-Bejadi has spent in prison.

Regarding reductions of quotations and paraphrasing, this is difficult when the sources themselves give compact and rather NPOV-style summaries and more detailed articles are not available. There's not a huge amount of KSA material in English available, so summarising key information from longer source articles is not always possible. Close paraphrasing discusses the copyright problems in paraphrasing. I do agree that in the first draft of the al-Bejadi article, there are quite a lot of quotes that would read more nicely without quotation marks. However, it's hard to condense or summarise the information without making it more vague, reducing the useful information content. IMHO it's better to err on the side of using too many quotation marks rather than using too few, in a situation where we are using essentially the same words. I found that my attempts to summarise used essentially the same words.

The best thing would be if more sources are available. For the moment, we don't even seem to have sources for the hunger strike that was called for 15-16 March 2012... With sufficient sources of info, compressing/summarising will/would be easier.

Anyway, see Close paraphrasing and specific discussion should go at Talk:Mohammed_Saleh_al-Bejadi. Boud (talk) 00:11, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Hana Shalabi
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 * Hi, I'm anxious to approve your noms. I notice that there is one I notified you about a couple of days ago too.  Will you be addressing the issue so I can pass it?--Ishtar456 (talk) 23:26, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Aqsunqur Mosque
Thanks from the wiki and me Victuallers (talk) 17:14, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ali al-Sulayhi
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Jubbet ad-Dib
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:02, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I was about to send a barnstar to the writer of this and realized it was you again! You're a real wiki gem mate!♦ Dr. Blofeld  09:22, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Hana Shalabi
The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 31 March 2012 (UTC)