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DYK question for Nabi Rubin
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Jericho
Thanks for the link Al Ameer son. I'll read it over now and see what can be done with it. I've just added a bunch of stuff, but Jericho's history never ends and I'm barely doing it justice right now. It will take weeks I think.  T i a m u t talk 18:49, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The link doesn't let me see anything inside the book though. Pity.  T i a m u t talk 18:51, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Re:Fountain of Qayt Bay
You have compliments. – RyanCross  ( talk ) 04:42, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

RE: Join WikProject Palestine
Thank you for your encouraging message re Excavations of the Al-Aqsa Mosque. It would be my pleasure to be part of WikiProject Palestine.

Greetings Yamanam (talk) 09:23, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Palestinian cuisine
Hi, that sounds definitely interesting, but I am unable to access the link you sent me, so I do not know how much is there. On the other hand, I have now all the three books mentioned under "further reading" (that is; the two Nasser-books, and the Shihab-book.) But none of them have much about history, unfortunately. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 20:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi, I see that you uploaded a wonderful David Roberts print for the Jacobs´well article, great!! So many writers who came later imitated/copied David Roberts; I just uploaded a page from Thomson, 1859, who doesn´t say where he took the picture from.... (the word "copy-right" wasn´t really invented, back then, me think..) ..but it is rather obvious, isn´t it?
 * Anyway, I added the Jacobs´well picture to the Roberts page at the commons:  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/David_Roberts  ...and then I went looking at the source (Lib. of Congress.) for more pictures of him...and they have lots!! Including that 1839-picture I have been hunting for for some time of "Beit Jebrin" (Item 193 of 434 ). I searched for David Roberts, and got 434 entries, 22 pages. Basically, it is the first 14 pages which has any interst. Now, many of those pictures are from Egypt, but there are also *a lot* from Palestine, including Hebron, Bethany, Jenin, a wondeful picture of the Mosque of Omar, and the original "Entrance to Nablous"  (I uploaded just a later print from a book to the Nablus-article).
 * Now, from what I understand, we can use these pictures?? Unfortunately, I have no idea as to how to download them or to edit them...in other words: it would be wonderful if you continued the work you started with the download of the Jacobs´well -picture..hint, hint!! Cheers, Huldra (talk) 00:55, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the Beit Jibrin-picture! I really love these old David Roberts-prints.
 * Also, have you seen Ermete Pierotti (1864): Customs and Traditions of Palestine: Illustrating the Manners of the Ancient Hebrews? It´s a bit strange...trying to find "Hebrew" (meaning Biblical times) customs in/among the common people of Palestine ca. 1860. But it has some observations about "food and cookery" which might interest you . Take care, and btw: great job you have done on Lajjun, & I will of course tell you if I come across a picture, cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:57, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Zir'in
I've been looking at Zir'ir for a month and you beat me to it at the last second. Well done ....Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 10:36, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem, pleasure to help out..Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 17:51, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

PS How do I go about or who do I complain to about NoCal100 violating the 3RR rule on Banias?..Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 17:57, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Don't you find it amazing that pro-Palestinian editors haven't got a clue how to go about complaining or wiki lawyering...and yet the pro-Israeli crowd know the system by heart? I am very glad that the pro-Palestinian editors are Editors and are nothing like the POV pushing wiki lawyers....Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 22:22, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, having been on the receiving end a number of times over the last two and half years, I've learned a thing or two about 3RR, RfCs and ArbComm. So if you ever do need any advice, let me know.  T i a m u t talk 14:31, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Ali
Salam Alaykum, it's the second time that the article is nominated. As you mentioned that part needs citation. However I haven't added it and I don't have good source which represents Sunni's view. I'll be glad if you help me with it. In addition the article should be cleaned up. Almost all of the guys whom I asked to do so since last year hadn't enough energy to finish the work. Can you please check it. I suggest starting from Caliphate section.-- Seyyed(t-c) 05:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Sumayriyya Aquifer.JPG
Please note that the structure in the image is an aqueduct, not an aquifer. I've noted this on its File talk page, particularly that I don't know whether (nor how) that file might require or otherwise benefit by a rename with the corrected term. I've also made the change in the Al-Sumayriyya infobox. -- Deborahjay (talk) 21:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Ali: Clarification
You can read Madlong's book. He describes is precisely. However as I remember, it takes three days. First Ali, Talha and Zubayr refused, then people rushed to Ali and urged him to accept. Imam Ali said later : "اما والذي فلق الحبه و برا النسمه لولا حضور الحاضر و قیام الحجه بوجود الناصر و ما اخذ الله علي العلما ان لا يقاروا علي كظه ظالم ولا سغب مظلوم لا لقيت حبلها علي غاربها و سقيت آخرها بكاس اولها و لا لقيتم دنيا كم هذه ازهد عندي من عفطه عتر" -- Seyyed(t-c) 03:54, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Al-Khalisa, Safad district
Depopulated 1948 village Al-Khalisa is presently only a redir. to Kiryat Shmona. However, if I´m not wrong, there are pictures of the village mosque on the commons: ...so perhaps this deserves an article of its own, in the near future? Cheers, Huldra (talk) 05:42, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It would be great if you started an article about the place. Benvenisti (2002), writes about al-Khalsa (p. 127, 128, 130, 185-86, 291). Unfortunately, not all of this is on the net, see Sacred Landscape. However, I have the book, I find especially interesting (in view of the pictures) p.291: "The mosque of al-Khalsa, one of the few structures that remain of that Galilee Arab village, is situated in a municipal park in the older section of the Jewish town of Kiryat Shemona. It serves as the local museum dedicated to the memory of townspeople who have fallen in Israel´s various wars." Oh, the irony, the irony! Cheers, Huldra (talk) 08:47, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

As a contributor to Bayt Naqquba article
As a contributor to the Bayt Naqquba you may be interested in the discussion at Talk:Bayt Naqquba. I am surprised that the editor who posted the proposal has been so uncivil as not to have notified you..Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 23:30, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Khadra Mosque
By all means put it forwards. What do you need from me?.... Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 11:33, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes I'd be happy to. But how do I do that? You have done a great job with the article by the way. --Fipplet (talk) 12:05, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes I'd be happy if you put it in the Suggestions section! Thank you. --Fipplet (talk) 19:33, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Done; I don't look for 'recognition', nor need it You and Fipplet started and wrote the article and I'm quite happy to see the article removed from a delete list...Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 19:17, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

fair enough...You have made the article look tidy. well done for that....Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 19:35, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

What's the minimum size for GA review?...Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 08:31, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Palestine collaboration re mergers
I have included a topic for discussion with the section Mergers started by Chesdovi as I feel it is within the scope of the topic. Please see and add any comments you feel applicable...Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 14:24, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 19:17, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Al-Mualek Mosque
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Al-Muallak mosque
Interested in co-nominating al-Muallaq Mosque for a DYK?--Fipplet (talk) 21:40, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Urgent Request
Hi Ameer, you have longer and better experiance that I have, please advise about the following article:

Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine Could you check the article and see the changes that were made at it, and advise me what to do? I am not 100% familiar with wiki policies but I can;t see what is wrong with the article. Your quick repsone is highly appreciated. Yamanam (talk) 17:14, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Following are reviews and neutral sources about the article:
 * A review of Ilan Pappe, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine
 * The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine Reviewed by Seth J. Frantzman
 * A Review of The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappe
 * Do you need more sources? Thank you for your cooperation. Yamanam (talk) 19:40, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Edit
There was likely an edit conflict, or my browser did something funny. It was not at all intentional. I apologize for that, and will try my best to prevent it in the future. VR talk  19:00, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm obviously afraid now. Anyways, could you, take you make the line "wounded: 60 civilians" under the casualties in info box, invisible. I tried to look for sources, but didn't find any that support the number. In fact, the only "60 wounded" is coming from the mosque attack. I think someone confused the figure.VR talk  19:05, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Arabic name
Are you familiar with the Arabic name for the Gaza conflict? If yes, can you share your views at Talk:2008–2009_Israel–Gaza_conflict/Lead? Thanks.VR talk  05:53, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Arafat holster
Thanks for the note! I'm glad I could help.--Gloriamarie (talk) 21:40, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Great Mosque of Gaza
Hi, I have reviewed your article, Great Mosque of Gaza, and passed it as GA. It is a very nice little article, really excellent. I added some architectural wikilinks that you may want to review. Congratuations! Regards, &mdash; Mattisse (Talk) 01:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

RE: Gaza Devotion period
Hi Ameer, I am not sure if you can read Arabic or not, if so, please have a look at the bottom of this page. Yamanam (talk) 14:37, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, and btw I have forgotten to congratulate you on your excellent Lajjun -work, Congrats! I´m planning to continue on the 1948 Gaza-district villages.. See you around. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 03:11, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * PS. also, I just wondered; did you realise when you started Al-Shajara that it was the home village of Naji al-Ali? ..there is a lot of interesting inf. about the village...we really should expand it. Another thing: The importance of the 1948-villages seem sometimes set, well, a bit by chance. Why, eg. is Barbara, Gaza mid-level importance, while Al-Jiyya is High-level importance? It is not only these two; one (more peaceful) day, I think perhaps we should have a central discussions as to which villagers should be given high-level importance. Anyway, take care, and keep up the very good work you are doing, cheers, Huldra (talk) 03:42, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Assalamu Alaykom brother, actually I wanted you to see the reactions on your initiative concerning Gaza Devotion period, as I told u, I moved the initiative to Wi-Ar and the reaction there was really good, hopefully we will start working on this initiave as soon as the assault ends, which is very soon in sha'a allah. By the way, don't think that just because Wi-Ar's main language is Arabic then it would have a lot of pro-Palestine, no, this is not the case at all. Please brother include me always in any initiatives or suggestions, I might not be able to contribute that much at Wi-En, but I'll make sure to move it to Wi-Ar and to work on it there. Warm Regards. Yamanam (talk) 08:09, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the update, i started a stub for all of the articles that u mentioned in my talk page. And in sha'a allah, when we start the devotion period it will be expanded, I think we will rely a lot on the English articles. Please keep me in the loop. Thank you brother. Yamanam (talk) 13:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikiproject Palestine
Salam thanks for the invite, insha'allah I will be able to contribute. --Falastine fee Qalby (talk) 06:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello! there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath and respond there as soon as possible.

Gaza skyline
The image does not belong. It is in extremely poor taste. You can't portray Gaza as a pleasant sunny place right now. The image lowers the tone of the entire article. I am going to delete it. If you revert me again I will report you. You didn't try to explain nicely, and the tone of your entry on my talk page is not pleasant. 84.9.125.170 (talk) 01:09, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Replied on my talk page 84.9.125.170 (talk) 02:33, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Gaza
Hi Al Ameer Son. I looked at Gaza. I don't want to be discouraging, but I think it still needs a lot of work. Did you know that it's population for example decreased from 42,000 to 17,000 as a result of World War I? I read that in Shahin's book on Palestine yesterday and it's just one thing that comes to mind when I look at the article which is missing a lot of important info on Gaza' history. Anyway, I'll try to make some meaningful additions towards improving it (and not just throw out random suggestions here on your talk page). I'm having serious concentration problems recently (my thoughts are all scattered) but I'll do my best to pull it together soon to give you better feedback at the page there and add some sources and content too. Good work in expanding it though. It was totally pathetic before you began adding things. Your work is good, it's just a huge topic to cover. It may need a mumber of summary articles to do the place's long history any justice. Anyway, good work and thanks for prodding me on it.  T i a m u t talk 15:56, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No, no, it's not discouraging at all; that's why I asked if you saw any issues that I didn't find. That bit about the population is very important for the Demographics section, so please add it as soon as possible. As for history, the Ottoman era is large enough, but the other sections could be expanded, particularly the 20th century. I found some more info on the Christian era that I will add soon too. I agree that we should start sub-articles later. I recently started al-Shifa Hospital but it needs work. I'm planning to start the article on St. Porphyrius Church soon and more article on Gaza mayors (Said al-Shawa and Rashad al-Shawa have been commenced). Anyway, I hope you could gather your thoughts soon for the sake of Palestine on Wikipedia. Looking forward to your additions on the great city! Salaamat akhti. --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:32, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Atallah-Hanna.jpg
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 * Salam man, please have a look here and give your opinion. Thanks Yamanam (talk) 11:26, 29 January 2009 (UTC)