User talk:Alampallil panikker

Nairs are Kshatriyas
i think this article is a joke, quotes taken here are carefully chosen to degrade nairs Its beyond doubt that nairs are Kshatriyas( going by the caste system) who were designated shudras by the nambudiris, Nambudiris are rig vedic brahmins who believe that the Kshatriya race was wiped out completely by Parashurama in the treta yuga

few quotes on nairs 10.—“The first class of Pagans in Calicut is called Brahmins. The second are Nair, who are the same as the gentlefolk amongst us; and these are obliged to bear sword and shield or bows and lances.”— Varthema

1563.—“…The Nairs who are the Knights.”—Garcia

1755.—“The king has disciplined a body of 10,000 Naires; the people of this denomination are by birth the Military tribe of the Malabar Coast.”—Orme

1661. - “Olive colored they (Nair Women) grow their ears long and consider it fashionable, they wear gold and silver ornaments in the big ear holes... They grow hair and tie it in a peculiar fashion on the head. Chewing betel leaf is common and their teeth are thus often black in color. From a very early age they get military training, though fierce they are also well behaved, which is the custom here…….These Nairs rarely laugh…They are born in Noble families and are adept warriors. They come out with sword in one hand and shield in the other. They are a proud and arrogant people.” - Logan

1661.- “"... it is strange how ready the soldier of this country is at his weapon...they are all gentlemen and are termed Nayars ... they send their children to (Kalaris) when seven years old and their body becomes so nimble and bends as if they had no bones” - Logan

1603. - “The men of war which the King of Calicut and all other kings have is Nair…..each being a gentleman……their women be of great beauty and rare to catch sight of…..possessing fine neat features….befitting the noble class” - John Kanding

"...On the west coast there are a few curious distinctions that indicate, apparently, difference in racial origin. The first of these instances is that of the Nair, the military caste of Malabar. Their traditions point to the north as their native land; they are light in colour, in very great contrast to the rest of the castes of the tract, have retained the custom of polyandry, with a good deal of serpent worship. It appears that they advanced upon their present tract by way of the coast higher up, but how they got there does not appear. As with the Arya, they found a dark race in possession and enslaved them on their estates, where they labour to the present day. In the same tract, too, there is a class of Bráhmans, the Nambudiri, of remarkable fairness of complexion, and noted for their rigid ceremonial puritanism. Then, again, in the track of the Nair's alleged progress, we find a peculiar caste of Brahmans, partly occupied in the cultivation of spices and betel nut, but settled mostly above the Gháts, and not therefore so well sheltered from foreign influences as the Nair, who sought the coast. These Havig or Haiga Bráhmans show their connection with the Túlu country in their speech, and, like the Nairs, attribute to their caste a serpent origin in Rohilkhand, a statement borne out by their title. Between these we have a class of female temple servants of an equally light complexion amidst a universally dark population.."( Jervoise Athelstane Baines, ( 1893 ), General report on the Census of India, 1891 , London , Her Majesty's Stationery Office , p. 184) ↑

"Before quitting the country (Kerala) Hyder Ali Khan by a solemn edict declared the Nairs deprived of all (social and political) privileges and (ordered) not to carry arms. This ordinance was found to make the submission of the proud Nairs absolutely impossible because they would have thought death preferable to such humiliations and degradation. Therefore, Hyder Ali Khan by another ordinance, consented to restore all social and political privileges including carrying of arms, to the Nairs who embraced the Mohammadan religion. Many nobles had to embrace Islam; but a significantly large section (Nairs, Chieftains and Brahmins) chose rather to take refuge in the kingdom of Travancore in the South than to submit to the last ordinance"- Prince Ghulam Muhammad of Mysore

"The Nairs of Malabar who attained much celebrity in warfare....justly entitled born soldiers...by the virtue of their descent they must always bear arms..they constitute the third and the last of the honoured castes....a privilaged people....the Rajahs like the oriental monarchs are fond of exaggerating their importance and boast of the number of Nairs they have in their country and service to impress us (the portuguese) with the idea of their wealth and power" - The Book, Letters from Malabar

"I like to see these nairs who never care their lives who lead an army of similar people even against mighty ocean of enemies and fight to win like a hell-fire " - Lord Wellington These are some of the quotes of british officers stationed in malabar and travancore and the qoutes you have put up seems to be from british historians who didn't have particularly good rapport with nairs

Almost every ruling clan has nair ancestry, until 13 century ,the Travancore royals were known as the "nayars of venad"

This article seems to be needlessly pointing out to hyper gamy and polyandry which is unimportant these practices and perversions were common even amongst other castes. Nair customs include Thiruvathira kali, velakali,etc which hasn't been touched upon and also the title handed over to them for service in the army and governance were never mentioned The opening seems to be classifying Nairs as some sort of militia like the LTTE where as in reality nairs formed the ruling ,land owning ,martial nobility and few others formed kayasthas (accountants)

Mr sitush keep your caste aspirations to yourself, because i think that seems to be your motive by putting up some naked pictures, "nair women shave their armpit...."do these things deserve a metion in lead page or do you mean to say that other caste ladies never cared for personal hygiene? And what about the attire of women from other castes? you page on them doesn't mention anything about the attire of those people!! Nairs were infamous for preventing still lower castes from covering the upper body Alampallil panikker (talk) 17:15, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

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July 2015
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 * You have already been warned about the discretionary sanctions on pages about social groups and have continued to remove sourced content or add opinions to articles. If you repeat this behavior, you will be blocked and/or topic banned from the area. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  16:29, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for violation of editing principles despite warnings provided under WP:GS/Caste, as you did at Nair. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text below this notice:. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  17:07, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism of Nair article by People of other castes
Hey how are you?

I see that you have also noticed that there has been constant vandalism of the Nair page by lower caste Malayalis and Tamils. I ask for your help in this issue as the vandals of the article are primarily moderators who are just banning whoever they do not agree with. The moderators are also of vellalar and ezhava caste. On the Nair page, I noticed that the "sources" for the majority are from self sourced opinions of Western and Christian anthroplogists. I also sourced one of the pictures to find that it is of a Irula tribeswoman. The vandalism of the article is pretty obvious, and I ask you to join me in solving this issue. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rabt man (talk • contribs) 20:39, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

July 2015
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