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"True or not, the opinion of the editor(s) is irrelevant. Especially because this has a "hot-button" political aspect, it needs reliable sources to be cited, which will probably be well-scrutinized. Right?"

What kind of sources do you need? Genetic? Historical? Cultural?Evildoer187 (talk) 12:39, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Not me, everyone. Let's keep it at the article talk page:. —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 17:52, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hey AlanM1. Hey why did you remove my message at the help desk? -  CURTAINTOAD! TALK! 08:13, 10 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I very rarely edit someone else's comment on a talk page, the only exceptions including when they obviously would want the edit done. It seemed you accidentally mis-posted. It didn't make any sense by itself, or in the thread in which you posted it. Here it is in context (yours is in the orange middle box, based on this diff):

If it belonged there, I'm still baffled by its meaning —&#91;   Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 00:17, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. :)  CURTAINTOAD! TALK! 01:04, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Koto Okubo
Hello. Please see Talk:Koto Okubo. Perhaps you can help. I see from the edit history that you added the Persondata template. Thanks! Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:56, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅ Thanks for catching that. Whoever put the succession templates in did it incorrectly, causing the subsequent Persondata to appear as part of the succession table. —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 02:03, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Great. Thanks!  I looked at it a hundred times, and I could not see what was wrong.  Thank you.  Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 02:44, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

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 * Most kind. Thank you! —&#91;   Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 12:15, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

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Could you perhaps give more input on the DragoLink08 situation and the consequent rangeblock for the University of South Florida? I've just gotten a message from Hflw27, who says "I may be able to help with range configuration - I'm in the CSE department of USF and may be able to track down relevant and necessary details. I know that the 131.247.2.* and 131.247.3.0-64 blocks are regulated static IP addresses for Engineering". I'm going to leave a message on his talk page explaining that I implemented the rangeblock on others' recommendations, that I don't really know how to help, and that I'll ask others to help him; if you can help, please respond at his talk page. Please note that you're not the only one I'm asking; I'm leaving this message for five other users who commented on Drago's situation at Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive783, as well as you. Nyttend (talk) 02:22, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox SCOTUS case/doc
Do not modify the documentation for a template to indicate an endash where a hyphen is required, as you did at Template:Infobox SCOTUS case/doc I say this with no prejudice to changing both the Template *and* the documentation, but changing the documentation so as to be incorrect with respect to the functionality of the template it is documenting gets in the way of people actually writing articles, as was the case here. To make the point, cutting-and-pasting the documented value you modified results in the template silently not displaying the name of Supreme Court Justicies, which is non-intuitive and difficult for many users to debug. --j⚛e deckertalk 18:08, 21 February 2013 (UTC)


 * This was part of a move of some of the U.S. Supreme Court composition x–y templates. Some of them used a hyphen (incorrectly according to MOS) and some of them used an endash. I thought I hit all relevant articles and templates, but apparently missed the fact that Infobox SCOTUS case/courts contained a whole separate set of data, keyed by the hyphen-separated ranges. Obviously, changing the 2500+ articles that currently use it is a non-starter (at least for now), so I understand and agree with the reversion. Had Int21h talked to me or explained the problem, I wouldn't have re-reverted the change.
 * If you don't mind, I'll add a comment or two to the doc about the fact that the parameter is specifically contrary to the MOS, for the benefit of those of us that regularly use the correct endash, and who will stumble over it when it fails. Perhaps when someone "Lualizes" the template, it will be easy to accept either the hyphen or the endash (I could make it do that now, but it would reduce performance, at least the way I see to do it at first glance).
 * Also,  (used in Infobox SCOTUS case/courts) supports a default case, which could be used to give the usual big red error message if the given key doesn't match one of the defined date ranges. Any objection to my adding this, which will relieve the problem with the silent fail?
 * BTW, I noted some missing "=" in the subject doc (like "e.g., enter 'SCOTUS 1994-2005'" should be 'SCOTUS=...'). Is there a reason for that or should I fix it while I'm there? —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 18:56, 21 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Cool, understood. Yeah, I don't mind such a comment at all.  I'm hoping, actually, to see this silly parameter go away entirely, it's a little out of my technical competence but MZMcBride (I think it was him) has suggested a rewrite, perhaps using the new LUA extension, that would infer the right grouping from the decision date.  That would make everyone a lot happier, I suspect.  No objections to your other (entirely sensible) suggestions, etc.  Thanks!  --j⚛e deckertalk 19:11, 21 February 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅ I added the error cases when given a param that doesn't match any of the defined years and did some work on the doc page. There's some dup that's probably unnecessary between the "MOS" section below and the usage area above, but it's OK for now. Yes, it would be better to just find the right composition from the case decision date. This should be easier/faster with Lua. —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 02:42, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

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[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Helder.wiki&diff=next&oldid=516623064 Thank you for this]! Helder 19:15, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

FYI
Re-factored.--Chaser (talk) 21:23, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Your very UNHELPFUL comments on the HELP page
You recently wrote patronising, condescending and outright disgraceful comments under a problem I was having with some templates on the WIKI help page here-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk

QUOTE YOU: "As far as "absolute disgrace" and "beggars belief" (whatever that means)," ...

If you're going to criticise me and my style of writing; wouldn't you be better off RESEARCHING what it is I said??? How can you attack me for saying "beggars belief" when you don't even know what it means? This is an absolute farce.

"Beggars Belief", as easily found through google.com if you were half-bothered, means "To appear implausible or unbelievable." I stand by my comment.

You, on the other hand, should read WP:CIVIL and WP:AGF before you continue, and WP:STOP being so condescending in future. LalaLAND (talk) 16:02, 3 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry you feel that way, and apparently don't see why I felt it necessary to make those comments. Your characterizations of a minor bug were offensive, and I said as much. Again, you might want to ask yourself why you're in arguments with three separate users on your second day here. If you don't change something, you will not last much longer. (Note to self: the comments in context will be archived at .) —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 19:57, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Apology accepted. Though you're statement of "you will not last much longer" is both offensive and amusing. LalaLAND (talk) 20:05, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * And your own clear presumptuousness in making multiple criticisms of others is also both offensive and amusing. I have to agree that your recent conduct, particularly the behavior which at least borders on arrogance, does make it rather more likely that it would be for most people that you find yourself subject to some form of sanctions. Also, if, as several of your actions and comments indicate, you have been active in some way well before the creation of this new account, it would probably be in your best interests to indicate such, at least to ArbCom or elsewhere. Otherwise, there will likely continue to be serious questions whether this new account might be a sockpuppet of a previously sanctioned editor, and those accounts have a history of being closed rather quickly indeed. John Carter (talk) 22:33, 3 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Well John. Interesting that you should stumble across me here, or were you perhaps stalking my contributions? In any event, I said at the ANI that I wouldn't be engaging in this pathetic quarrel you seem to so duly desire and wouldn't be making any more posts with you. However, you have made numerous accusations and insinuations about me (most often suggesting that I have or have had another account.) ABSURD. I ask you for your proof, or lacking that, I ask you to STOP right now. I have never had a previous account, but am familiar with wiki format and have read the policies and guidelines (which evidently, despite being an "Admin", you have not. - or you choose to ignore them.)
 * Lets get down to the real issue, shall we?: you didn't like when I called you out on your extremely presumptuous remarks on ANI that were totally and completely unfounded. You made a half pathetic attempt to back up your "claims" and didn't like that I thought (probably along with everyone else) that the claims were outlandish and unlettered at best. So now, having taken issue with that, you seem to want to WP:harass me on the talkpage of someone with whom you have absolutely no connection. Please lose the [WP:Battleground] mentality and remember- Wikipedia is not about winning. Have a good day. LalaLAND (talk) 23:41, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

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