User talk:Alanbly/Archives/2007/June

Thank you for your assessment
Thank you for your assessment on New Westminster Secondary School. I really appreciate it.  Dooga Talk 04:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You are welcome! Adam McCormick 06:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

A ...
I wondered why the "A" schools I was looking at were so slim... so I have added a few ton A without knowing you were working on it. Congrats on the Barnstar! Victuallers 15:01, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Auburn High School
Thank you for your assessment of Auburn High School. Would you mind pointing out parts of this article with possible WP:NPOV problems? I've found I'm not particularly skilled in hunting down bias in my own writing, and as such, an objective pair of eyes would be most appreciated. Any additional advice on improving the article would be likewise welcomed. -- Lissoy 00:18, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I went to look at this school to give them encouragement to become a GA ... I was impressed by the notes you had left there. Well done Victuallers 14:24, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

recent change on Naming conventions (schools)
In re your recent change, wouldn't that mean that schools with the name The School, wouldn't the proper code be ???

This seems a little complix to put in the guideline, but the current instructions won't work (will they?). Is there simpler code like that we could put in that would work for all scenarios and would be easy to understand? Miss Mondegreen talk  09:00, May 9 2007


 * The text after DEFAULTSORT: is the key by which the school will be sorted, so yes it should be the full school name (including the parens) Adam McCormick 16:08, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Your tea
â˜» Someone has poured you tea â˜º Camaron1 | Chris 18:54, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

deletion of redirects per Naming conventions (schools)
The issue has gotten contentious for one redirect in particular for Uni High. There's been an Rfd for days now--and I've said that I'd be fine with keeping it, but only if there was a particular reason to. We are forming guideslines etc, and while a look at the ones in place helped form them, I'll definitely admit that I could have overlooked stuff. But the current discussion has been going round and round and the person who wants the redirect kept is arguing two things (it seems). One is that keeping the redirect will prevent article duplication. And the other is that it will help people find the article.

In my point of view, both of these arguments make no sense, as the article in question was moved from name of school plus paramater to name of school plus different parameter. There are half a dozen different paramaters that could be used easily, so the idea that people are going to naturally gravitate towards the one that did happen to exist and want to create an article there, or search that way doesn't make sense. If the person really thinks that that's a problem, then they should have created other redirects from the other possible namespaces for the article. If you could take a look at the discussion--I'd appreciate it. I may be missing something, we may want to change the guidelines per different things that have been raised (notability of the city was raised, which we don't outright address because I didn't think we would need to but we probably should).

Also--it occured to me that there's no WP shortcut for the guideline, which I assume would belong at WP:NC(SCH). We should create the shortcut, no? Miss Mondegreen  talk  20:46, May 18 2007

Template:WPMusInst/sandbox
Are you still playing in this sandbox? If not could you please clear it? Thanks Adam McCormick 05:57, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for reminding me.... I'm done (for now), so it's cleared! - NDCompuGeek 08:12, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

MOS standards and redirects
"We've taken several weeks to put together this guideline and have had input from throughout the project. We have set up this guideline for the specific reason of removing the vast number ambiguos redirects in favor of a strong guideline that can be used to find ANY school, ANYWHERE in the world without the excessive use of redirects."

There are always new users creating accounts and gaining powers to create redirects. They DO NOT know about MOS guidelines, so they need redirects to steer them in the right direction.

There is no Do you mean University High School (Los Angeles, California) system on here, and that is part of the reason why we need redirects. Do not overestimate the intelligence of an anon - Anons and newly-registered users can be with little thought and with little common sense. They cannot overcome redirects, which steer them to the right article. Why do you expect them to know the MOS that you laid out?

Also, let's look at WP:MOS-JA. I am intimately familiar with the manual of style for Japan-related articles. So are many of the more experienced users. So, then, do we delete all of the redirects of the names in the non-supported styles/wrong orders/etc? We do not, as we know that the redirects are helpful for users who do not know about MOS-JA. WhisperToMe 19:16, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * You seem to be fighting a larger battle than one redirect really deserves. Can you honestly say that a search for "University High School (Los Angeles)" (Because if it doesn't exist it will become a search) won't turn up "University High School (Los Angeles, California)" (Which it does)? How is that any more difficult for an anon user (Who would be Going to "University High School") to find the page they are looking for? Adam McCormick 21:36, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Moot Adam McCormick 23:10, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Whispertome--I'm still really curious about your argument. You say there's no "Do you mean University High School (Los Angeles, California) system", but isn't that exactly what happens when you search for something?  You get results and how well the relate to your search and the titles of the articles and small sections of text within the article.  You not only get one did you mean, you get several, and this particular set would be headed off by the article, then the disambig page, then probably other uni high articles.  Besides, anons and newly registered users aren't going to know if the article is located at "University High School, Los Angeles" or "University High School (Los Angeles)" or "University High School, California" etc.  That's why there's a disambig page, and a search engine.  I do agree that long existing articles with lots of things linking to them would cause a lot of breakage, and so should be kept as redirects if possible, so Uni High would qualify anyway, but in terms of writing the guideline for other articles, I'd still really like to understand what you were trying to get at. Miss Mondegreen  talk  23:43, May 19 2007

From my experience, the search engine isn't reliable, and often it is a redirect to Google search.

Anyway, I know how the system works, so I felt really frustrated when I noticed actual opposition to keeping the redirect (which seems like the obvious choice, considering the criteria for redirect deletion). Anyway, now that is over, I will move on to a healthier subject (Yes, I see edit summaries, McCormick :) )..

I added your name to two lists at Wikipedians_by_alma_mater as per the information on your userpage :) WhisperToMe 03:37, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians by edit count
I don't know if you noticed, but we already had Category:Wikipedians by number of edits, so your creation of Category:Wikipedians by edit count (and some of its subcategories) was redundant. You may want to sort this out in order to avoid a large WP:UCFD merge/delete nomination in the future. VegaDark (talk) 05:53, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting me know, I'm just trying to make a clean start, I'll look into making the nomination Adam McCormick 23:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Kesteven and Sleaford High School
Hi. You were proposing that the entry for Kesteven and Sleaford High School be merged or something because it was so short and unverified. I've expanded the article (I work there) and have added appropriate references and verification for the key detail. Thanks. Bedoyere 21 May 2007
 * I have reassessed the article, if you need more direction, just let me know Adam McCormick 23:23, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

User contrib
Hey, User contrib is hosed... see my user page... Ling.Nut 23:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If you're gonna experiment/ you should copy/paste it to your userspace &amp; play with that..... Ling.Nut 23:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not panicing, I'm informing. :-) And it's not repaired. :-) Ling.Nut 23:24, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * OK thanks :-) Ling.Nut 00:29, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I notice that your edits to the template caused an errand blank line below the userbox. Please fix it when you have some time. Thanks! Royal broil  15:52, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

re: HEB ISD assessment
Thanks a million! Your kind words are definitely constructive and encouraging. --Hebisddave 21:56, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem, good work Adam McCormick 23:15, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Rfc
You recently commented at a Peer Review for University High School (Los Angeles, California).

We could use a weigh in at Requests for comment/University High School (Los Angeles, California).

The article in question is protected after an edit war and we're now attempting to get consensus on whether or not school newspaper articles are RS. Miss Mondegreen talk  01:48, May 24 2007 (UTC)

Admiral Lord Nelson School
Hi there, I've kind of replied to the issues you raise on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (schools). Cheers, DWaterson 12:20, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: WPSchoolsAssessment
Looks mighty alright to me. Great work. Thanks. Aditya Kabir 19:50, 28 May 2007 (UTC)