User talk:Alanbly/Archives/2007/May

Revolver Magazine
I removed that paragraph from the Revolver Magazine article because it shows massive negative bias towards the other publications mentioned: "[Revolver] is a successful departure from hard rock/heavy metal publications that had dominated the scene; the articles are well-written and well-researched."

"Circus was poorly edited and frequently had grammatical errors and there was criticism from metal fans that the publication focused more on style than substance by continually covering bands such as Orgy, Slipknot, and Marilyn Manson."

"In 2001, [Hit Parade] came under fire from fans because the magazine was featuring bands that clearly were not metal ( i.e. Three Doors Down)."

In addition, none of these statements are sourced.

I'm not sure how removing that paragraph constituted vandalism. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.191.113.130 (talk) 05:45, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

12.207.x.x.
I'm writing this to Alanbly, Luckyluke, and Aporkyltaros: this (12.207.115.187) is a shared computer. I have no idea who made those edits or any of the previous ones. But for crying out loud, is it really necessary to keep sending me messages about it? (And how exactly do I remove the "you have new messages thing" coming in to the IP?) -messersmith2


 * ---Will you please knock it off and stop sending our IP messages. We get it.  Some jackass used the IP and made bad edits.  Now stop it, it's getting obnoxious. -messersmith2


 * Then you mght want to consider using real accounts instead of IP addresses, if others have access to your IP address and have been vandalizing with it. &mdash; SMcCandlish &#91;talk&#93; &#91;contrib&#93; ツ 01:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:BITEy use of uw templates
Just FYI, if you slap uw-vandalism3 on an all-new IP user page, especially for a two-character "=)" edit which may well have just been experimentation (uw-test) series, WP:AIV is highly unlikely to take any action, and may even look strongly askance on this. Please see WP:UWT for full instructions on the use of these templates.  The 3- and 4-level warnings assume bad faith, after evidence of a pattern of intentionally disruptive behavior.  The uw-templates are made to be used in numerical series, and except in cases of incredibly egriously vandalism, AIV won't act if they are not used in 1-2-3-4 order and the disruptive user does something disruptive again after the 4th level warning.  E.g., if someone experiments in an article their first day, they'll get uw-test1.  If they next add unsourced unlikely information, they get uw-unsourced2.  If they then vandalize, they get uw-vandalism3, and so on. Hope that helps. :-) &mdash;  SMcCandlish &#91;talk&#93; &#91;contrib&#93; ツ 01:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Re-replied to your reply, over at my place. &mdash; SMcCandlish &#91;talk&#93; &#91;contrib&#93; ツ 03:42, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Ralph Nader
Your recent edits on this article are close to violating the three revert rule. Obviously, there are a number of different edit conflicts going on here. Please, cool it and take it to the discussion page rather than continuing to revert without talking. Thanks -- Pastordavid 16:37, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem ... I just came across the page through talk page comments, and warned the worst 3-rr violator, and thought I should give balnket warnings to all involved. Slowing down some, I see that your edits were reverts of vandalism.  Thanks for explaining.  -- Pastordavid 16:49, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Schools Project
I saw your enquiry about the schools project. I just added my name by adding the logo (see my user area). I then just started editting. As omly you, I and one othyer have done any assessing this month then I guess we are the project until someone in charge arrives and gives us a Barn star each :-)

I'm working through Category:Unassessed school articles picking on all the schools I know and ones that begin with CH .... Why? Got to start somewhere. Victuallers 17:04, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

--Thank You! Sukh17 Talk 06:38, 6 March 2007
 * Hi, I noticed that you are working on assessing articles within the Schools Project. I was just wondering if you could do me a favor and assess this article: American High School (Fremont, California)


 * I appreciate the feedback! --Thank You! Sukh17 Talk 07:08, 6 March 2007

Till the School Grown ups get back
Not sure the "grown ups" are coming back ...... have an imaginary barn star from me .... I think its an impressive list of assessed schools that you've put together Victuallers 21:59, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Template
Very Good idea - I'll nick it. Ive done a lot that I havent written down. I have been looking at recent changes and then assessing anything that looks as if it !has a friend" Victuallers 13:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

School assessments
Thanks for all your hard work on the school assessments. I am delighted that you have been much more sympathetic to our old English schools than previous assessors who classified Reading School, founded in 1125 and the tenth oldest school in England, as being of low importance. I've just put in a request for a re-assessment of this school in light of your recent ratings. There are however a very large number of old schools in England and I'm not sure if a school such as Queen Margaret's School, York, which is only one hundred years old, necessarily qualifies for a mid-importance rating. Schools of this age are very common in the UK. Other older schools, eg, Forest School (Walthamstow), have only been classified as of low importance by other assessors, though perhaps this assessment was mistakenly low. I'm quite happy for old UK schools to have higher importance ratings based on their age but I just thought you should be aware of the potential numbers involved. Dahliarose 15:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: School assessments
Most certainly. I pointed that out on Dahliarose's page, where I said I'm considering downgrading some of the recent assessments with the notion that they need to have something else making them important, other than the age., so I agree with you in that regard. It is simply illogical to have age as the main measure, because United Kingdom schools aren't the only ones being ssessed and heman beings didn't get to the New World until well after 1000. Acoordingly, there will be no schools in the United States older than European schools in all likelyhood, but a good number of them are more important. PhoenixTwo 18:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

age debate and ...
Age in itself should not get you a high rating but if you are around for a thousand years then its likely that your alumni will be higher. Obviously it depends on the country you are in. English schools and universities are all very recent compared with arabian educational institutes. Any school in the USA that is 300 years old .... is very old. 300 years in the UK is not very remarkable. Oh and the barnstar - its not imaginary. Look up barnstar in wikipedia. I.m just "being bold". If you agree then pass it on .. Victuallers 09:30, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Template
Thanks, I'll use it. I think maybe "No explanation" should maybe be "please contact assessor if explanation required"

Extra thought for the future - I think the templare should have a button that says "press here if you want advice about developing this article" Victuallers 11:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

School Assessment
Do you think you could have a peek at The Albany Academy and grade the article's quality and importance? I saw you did it before on another school so I figure you know what you are doing (I do not). Thanks! Nbruschi 21:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem have a look at the WikiProject Schools/Assessment page or Talk:The Albany Academy for more details Adam McCormick 06:22, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

TKS Sydney
Thanks for rating TKS's article-it gave an insight ot what other people think about it. I was wondering, when you say there are no references, what would you need us to put if we didn't use references? Thanks for that! Bassoonist123 21:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Kellenberg
Thanks for rating Kellenberg Memorial High School. As someone who has worked on the page, I found your comments helpful. I've tried to respond to them by doing some wikificiation and reorganization and taking a few small steps towards NPOV. If you have time and if you feel like it, could you take another look and see whether or not you think these changes move the page in the right direction? Thanks. Hickoryhillster 12:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

School Lists
Do the Schools Project have a categorical listing of schools by state/province? Perhaps I'm typing in or simply not finding the correct links, but I don't see that such a database exists, but I could be wrong. SkipperClipper 02:35, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Review of Assessments
Can you review the assessments I completed on April 1st? I'd like some feedback before I do anymore. Want to ensure I seem to be rating things in line with yourself and others. I've basically finished out the non-assessed "x" and "Z" lettered schools. Thanks SkipperClipper 04:14, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject School Categories
Category:School articles by quality seems like a duplicate category for Category:WikiProject Schools articles by quality. Since Category:WikiProject Schools articles by quality is the one being used by Wikipedia 1.0 assessments and, do you think we should remove Category:School articles by quality or maybe turn it into a redirect? Thanks,Jh12 20:39, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Most the articles in the category were already there before I changed anything. I just made it uniform. I can ditch the category easy enough. Adam McCormick 22:09, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see what happened. It looks like the small rectangular template: being used on the Category:WikiProject Schools articles by quality pages added them to Category:School articles by quality instead of the correct category.  Is there any easy way to fix that? Once that's fixed, we can go ahead and ditch the extra category. Lists of schools are covered pretty well with the mainspace categories at Category:Schools; I just hope we're making it easy for people to find these --Jh12 03:36, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed, now the category can become a redirect Adam McCormick 06:09, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

The Preuss School UCSD
Thank for your assessment of the Preuss School article. I have since added a few references, added a section, and expanded the clubs and athletics section. I also added another picture. I was wondering if you could be a little more specific about what areas I could expand to make it better. I was also wondering if you could read through the article a bit and make sure the prose sounds alright. Thanks, User:SorryGuy 20:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Please see User_talk:SorryGuy for mor einformation Adam McCormick 16:21, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar from you
Thanks! I was not expecting two so quickly, I am glad you like my work. Camaron1 18:19, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Dedication should be rewarded. Adam McCormick 18:51, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Template:WPSchools reply
Absolutely nothing. =) For any talk pages that currently use the template, nothing will change.  However, if the talk page has several WikiProject banners, you now have the option of enclosing them in the WikiProjectBannerShell template, so they will be shrunk down to one line each, with the option to view the whole banner.  For an example (not of WPSchools, but of the Banner Shell), see Talk:Kennesaw Mountain National Battlefield Park.  Only banners that have the option coded in can be enclosed in the banner - you can see a list of those that have been converted at the Banner Shell page.

I hope it's not a problem that I added that. I got a request to do so from Paschmitts - see Template talk:WikiProjectBannerShell. Let me know if it doesn't work or if you have any questions. Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 02:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Template:WPSchoolsAssessment
After looking at some of the "What links here" you are right, most do need an infobox. It would be nice though if you could include the parameter when assessing, in case someone unfamiliar with the template decides to add an infobox. I did find 23 articles (not many considering the amount of assessed articles, which Project Schools seems to be great at) that did have an infobox but were listed as not having one. I'm in the process now of fixing all of them with AWB. I do have one question though. There are a lot of school infoboxes, and it would be tedious to check them all, so are any infoboxes other than the generic "Infobox School" and "Infobox Secondary school" used on a lot of articles (like more than 50)? Mr.Z-man  talk ¢ 03:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * There are a lot of other infoboxes and there has been some discussion about trying to merge a bunch of them. From our perspective, as long as it is a school infobox (Rather than a company) it's not something the assessment group deals with. There is a category of them at Category:Education_infobox_templates and there has been some discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Schools/Archive_3 there's no consensus as of yet. Adam McCormick 05:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Template talk:User c++-4
So, you gonna respond? --Iamunknown 04:46, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry for the three hour delay in my response, I can't spend all of my time on Wikipedia, as much as I try. Adam McCormick 06:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not expecting you to spend all of your time on Wikipedia. I'm sorry if you found my comment rude. I didn't intend it to be. --Iamunknown 06:13, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry for being bitey, more the Assignments I'm working on that you, just seemed a bit impatient is all Adam McCormick 06:15, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

University High School (Los Angeles)
Hey Adam. I'm not sure what you do and don't watch, so I wanted to tell you that I replied to you at Wikipedia:Peer review/University High School (Los Angeles). Miss Mondegreen | Talk  07:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I've commented there, thank you for letting me knowAdam McCormick 16:34, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for being so helpful in answering my questions about my article on Rosati-Kain High School (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Schools#How_to_Add_a_School). As a new Wikipedia user, I also appreciated the links to helpful info on your discussion page. I am going to add my citations ASAP. I do have two more questions for you, if you have time... First, is there anything I can do to "classify" my article as a school? (I noticed that the schools I read about have a "WikiProject Schools" icon on their articles.) Second, I keep reading about article assesment. How do I request assesment of my article? Annie Hafner 21:21, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Give the WikiProject Schools/Assessment page a read. There's a section on the template that puts your school on our radar specifically WPSchools, and an area that you can add a link tto your school to and one of us will assess your school (I will probably just assess it if you would like it assessed) Adam McCormick 21:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Humboldt High
Thank you for your assessment of Humboldt High School (Iowa). Do you have any advice imparticular for the page? I referenced some of the info. Anything would be helpful. Brandonrush 00:47, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * See my response on the school's talk page Adam McCormick 03:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

That would be great, if you could point out where citations are needed on Humboldt High School (Iowa). Thanks for the advice so far.
 * No problem I've added a few fact tags. Most of the problem is that a lot of the information seems like WP:OR. Adam McCormick 03:53, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Typo
Adam - think you meant stub for Knights Templar school - I haven't fixed it. Roger aka Victuallers 08:50, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Roger Roger, I guess I must have been feeling generous. It has been changed Adam McCormick 15:44, 25 April 2007 (UTC)