User talk:Alanbly/Archives/2007/September

Sutton Grammar School for Boys
Hi, could you perhaps do a reassessment of the importance level etc of the school. I have added more information and added references, whereas another individual has cleaned up problems with tone and POV. Thanks. Fgla86 14:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Huh? There's not only one reference; there are 6 references to texts and 2 references to online texts...And there's not actually much more information that can be referenced - obviously you can't reference information on what the different buildings are etc.Fgla86 16:16, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * It's not one reference, it's 6; they are to different sections of a book. You are confusing 'references' with 'sources'. Just because they are references to the same book, that doesn't mean they are all one reference.


 * And you're not very helpful when you just say "two incorrectly formatted inline references". Nevertheless, I've corrected them now, at least to the best of my knowledge. So that makes 9 references in total.


 * I've had a look at some of those articles. Unfortunately, as is obvious, Sutton Grammar School is a comparatively young school. Therefore, there haven't been hoardes of texts written about it; there have only been 2: one is the book I referred to 6 times, and the other is simply a short pamphlet that adds nothing much above the book. You are effectively condeming the school to a lower Wikipedia assessment status because there isn't much literature about it. The assessment scale is supposed to indicate "how complete the article is", not how historical and written about a school is. This article contains most, if not all, of what one would need to know about the school.


 * Look at the official example given of a B-class article on the assessment scale: Munich air disaster. Note: only 3 references (or 2, if you take your definition of a "reference"). It is not appropriate to compare Sutton Grammar School to some of the other B-class schools you've listed because it is a much younger school, so will not be referred to in literature anywhere near as much. That's an issue for the importance scale, not the assessment scale.


 * Fgla86 17:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not going to argue with you on the finer points of assessment. I've read and assessed thousands of these articles (including many B articles about much younger schools) and this one is not more than a Start. I have posted a request for someone else to reassess the article, but my objections to this article getting a B rating stand. Adam McCormick 18:19, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh and http://www.google.co.uk/books?q=%22Sutton+Grammar+School%22&spell=1&oi=spell Victuallers 19:04, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) I just had a quick look at Sutton Grammar, although I had seen it before. I think this is an interesting case as it does depend on the refs. There is only one substantial reference and that is used over and over again ... and why not as its a good ref - if not exactly 3rd party. However very little else is referenced ... I would expect a few news stories. I think Schools Project are tough. I have seen articles with one ref getting a B from some projects. I don't think its worth arguing over. I think I would have made the same choice 3 days out of 4. Suggest you get the editor to add 5 or 6 more refs (e.g. Did those alumni to go this school?). Hope this helps. But this is not an exact science and you should not just agree with everyone else Victuallers 18:56, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Additions to BoxCrawler
Include explicit div tags like at Template:Infobox School Club done, awaiting approval Adam McCormick 23:45, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Recognize any class attribute w/ infobox in the name (such as at Template:Infobox Education in Canada and Infobox GB school)
 * Update to use Newinfobox Adam McCormick 14:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Change "school=yes" to "type=school" Adam McCormick 18:16, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Add recognition for WikiProject Schools
 * Make it work inside nested project boxes (equals sign and newlines) Adam McCormick 16:43, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Clenup newlines between templates
 * Find more deprecated infoboxes Adam McCormick 01:07, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Accept any template with "Infobox" or "infobox" in the name unless explicitly deprecated Adam McCormick 13:45, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Add catalogueing of unassessed importance with class assessment and unassessed class with importance assessment Adam McCormick 18:29, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Regarding your recent edits to 3D computer graphics
I noticed you removed two pieces, however I think the removal of the inserted Cephalometry, this diff here was inadvertent. I have reinserted the wikilink. Please feel free to reply here if I am mistaken. Cheers! Navou banter 03:21, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

While measurement of subjects is often part of Graphics, this science is not directly related to 3D graphics and I am trying (slowly) to pare down this see-also list. Adam McCormick 03:34, 31 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks fine. I'll remove it unless you beat me to it.  I will look for a more appropiate place, unless you can suggest one?  Cheers, Navou banter 03:36, 31 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd suggest 3D_scanner or 3D Modeling Adam McCormick 03:40, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar!
By the way, if you ever are up for admin-ship, leave me a message on my talk page, and I will give you a good review. :) Tiddly Tom 22:00, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

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Schools infobox
Thanks for your comments on my talk page. Can I just check, should I be adding "" to the article page, or the discussion page? Thanks Tafkam 23:52, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It should be left on the Article because that is where BoxCrawler looks for it. Adam McCormick 00:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

The Barlow RC High School
Talk:The Barlow RC High School - Please see for further developments. Onnaghar tl 16:03, 24 August 2007 (UTC)