User talk:Alanbly/Archives/2009/June

Template:Expert-subject-multiple
Hi Alanbly, I made a suggestion for a change to Template:Expert-subject-multiple at Template talk:Expert-subject-multiple a few days ago. As you're the original author I thought I'd make sure you are aware of this and have an opportunity to reply before I make any changes to the template. Regards, Qwfp (talk) 14:08, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

IQS / Icon Quote System
I am contacting you regarding your comments (reads like an advert) and for re-installing banners that discredit the genuine quality of the page. I am not quite certain of your qualifications for judging the intent of a party interested in being a part of Wikipedia so I will give you my run down. I am the original creator of the software. I never made any money from it, or recognition. I am certainly no wiki-expert. IQS IT director started the page at my request.

A family member who has done well marketing a business uses the software and has assembled a team to continue the development and improvement of the system. The only restriction is that it could never be sold. I never intended to sell it, only to start an open project for a modeling system. There are a lot of other contributors who work on the project for free. My engineering firm only works for a few select clients, and parts of the program are used to develop systems that do not compete with IQS – but IQS cannot be sold.

ICON Building Systems licenses the source, and adds functionality to the system to help their business run - like accounting, reporting, inventory, CRM etc. none of which are mentioned on the wiki. Why would it be an ad? It’s free. The company leases a website www.metalbuildingdepot.com and the website is the primary marketing portal to the company. Metal Building Depot is not even mentioned in the wiki. Why? Integrity, there is a lot of it here. Metalbuildingdepot.com has held the top natural position on Google for over 4 years – totally organic. No links to wiki – thanks.

So discredit the work of others as you will, but please at least have the courtesy to do a little research before you jump to conclusions. IQS is totally unique and unlike any other program. It competes with no one; it has no means of income - it is a labour of love. It is only used to assist people (regular people) in designing a building. Why don’t you download it and try it for yourself?

M.J. Moore-McGonigal PhD, P.Eng (talk) 00:20, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't have to know anything about your product to know that the article about it sounded like a brochure not like an article. That said, I research all of my edits and have compared your article and software with several comparable program suites, so please assume good faith before making inflammatory statements like "at least have the courtesy to do a little research before you jump to conclusions." You have directly stated that you are an author on the product (and it's a product even if you don't profit from it) and have thereby a direct conflict of interest. The article is not well written and now is more of a jumbled mess than an article. It needed toning down, not wanton addition of internal documentation.
 * Wikipedia is not the place for marketing, not the place for your internal IT director to place advertisements, and not the place for you to insult people who are trying to improve the article on your software. Read my history, I review articles, it's what I do, there's no need for this attack. Adam McCormick (talk) 05:59, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Well Put. Sorry for the brash comment. Upon reflection i should have simply asked for some insight.  Having said that, I will state again - I am no WIKI expert.  I will argue there are no comparable software suites, products or the like.  Google is software is it not?  Microsoft is a company.  Programming languages are created, marketed and sold, yet are part of Wikipedia.  I am not the sole author, there are many contributors.  I would like to say similar to Linux but for .Net physics and math experts, but there are less than 200 contributors.  The article will undergo a renovation.  The updated information was to inform the public of the changes in the code requirements.  For most this is useful information,  I assume for some it is like looking at assembly code.  The IT director knows nothing of marketing, nor do I, simply put i think there is a place here for the information.  I will have some folks assist in helping re-write the article.  It seems one must be a writer to find himself in the good graces of those who are privledged with the right to judge.  So lastly my comment (question) would be "the internet" - it is free, well most pay to access it, but without software to do so it would not exist.   Firefox is free... is it mentioned on Wikipedia?

M.J. Moore-McGonigal PhD, P.Eng (talk) 19:37, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * and by the way - thanks for the help with fixes. I am learning a bit.  Hope to have some satisfactory improvements very soon.

M.J. Moore-McGonigal PhD, P.Eng (talk) 20:26, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject schools
Hi ! I've noticed that you  are an active member of the schools project, and I  have noted much  of the advice you  have given to  others regarding  school  articles. On behalf of the WikiProject Worcestershire I  have been tagging  and improving  some of the articles on  schools in Worcestershire and creating  others. I may also  have added your project or sub-project banners, categories or  sub-categories  to  some of them. If you come across any  of my  recent edits, please do  not  come down too  hard on my tagging - education and schools is one of my  special  fields of interest and I tend to  be rather critical  of school articles that do not  meet Wiki standards. However, with regard to the schools in Worcestershire, I will  be returning  to  the articles I  have flagged and personally improving  them wherever possible. We have not interfered with the ratings on your project banners, but our own ratings based on local level may of course be different. If you would like to reply, offer any advice, or otherwise continue this discussion, please start a new section on our project talk page as I feel that a close collaboration  between the two projects is of utmost importance, and would welcome your, or your project's input.--Kudpung (talk) 04:29, 22 June 2009 (UTC)