User talk:Alansohn/Archive 3

Serenity: Those Left Behind.
Hi, Alan. After moving this article, I realized that I accidentally included a period at the end of it, and when I tried to move it to a new title without the period, I found that I couldn't, because WP kept saying that a page with that name already exists. Any help? Thanks. Nightscream 01:47, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Don't bite the newcomers
Please explain how the following diff is a vandalism reversion. I really think you should be careful not to bite the newcomers. Tagging Hunthearin's edits as vandalism is not assuming good faith and is likely to scare a potential editor away. MyNam e IsNotBob  11:50, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I think Alansohn was referring to, which clearly was test vandalism, although quickly reverted. Accurizer 13:04, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Reply
You're welcome. I'm familiar with your quality work and knew that there had to be more to the story than met the eye, which is why I looked into User:Hunthearin's revision history. It's important that anyone looking at your talk page and User talk:Hunthearin see all of the facts. Please keep up the good work. Regards, Accurizer 13:26, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Moshe Teitelbaum
Which one of our talk pages is on your watchlist? :) - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 21:25, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Spooky, yet flattering, to have your talk page watched. Enjoy! :) :) - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 21:32, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

BCSL
I expanded the BCSL page to include the American division. I hope you like the new change

Purpose for moving Chapin from 'princeton' to 'NJ'?
Given that the school is associated with the city, and not the state, and that there are, as i've recently learned, two in NY, requiring they be ID's by city, I see no reason to redirect from disambig to princeton to nj, a triple bounce.ThuranX 01:56, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Rob Andrews
Hey are you denying Rob Andrews visted Holy Cross and is an enviormental badass? 68.39.106.227.

Re: Dwight morrow high school
I put the sentence that was taken from the record in quotes. Dmhsgarduate2006 04:19, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Teterboro article
Hello Alan,

Maybe you've already seen it but I just came across an article concerning the upcoming Teterboro election, this Tuesday. I don't know if you'd like to incorporate any of it into the wiki-article. I'd do it myself but I'd rather remain neutral on election items that directly relate to me. I figured that you might want to see it though, even if it's not used in the Teterboro entry. It gives a better idea of the larger population issue too, stating that, in 2002, 33 of the then 38 registered voters actually came out to vote. JohnBWatt 19:20, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Good catch with the typo. I'm so used to seeing people add an S to it, that I completely missed it this time around. As far as the population growth mention, I meant it more as a reference points for others that may question the population and not so much you. Thanks for the well wishes for Tuesday. JohnBWatt 22:41, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

West Essex High School
Martin Mihaly was not selected as the 12th pick in the 2005 NBA Draft, as is made evident by the Draft article. I didn't want to leave incorrect information on the page and a personalized message seemed appropriate.

politics sections on municipal articles
The same person who updated River Vale, New Jersey has added a Politics section to all of the Bergen County municipality articles. I agree that there needs to be asource for this information. But, even with a source, I question whether presidential election results from one year show a meaningful tilt in one direction or another. For example, registration statistics would add some more context. Alansohn 13:14, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I saw. I left a message on the user's talk page, see User talk:68.44.149.97.  I agree, the politics sections as they stand are not very useful as they discuss one fact in isolation, but I think the section could be expanded to be useful.  I would not object to those sections in the current form being removed.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 17:52, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I checked the Bergen County wwb site for statistics on registration, but no luck online. They do have printed reports I will pick up listing registration by municipality, listing party affiliation counts. Again, not perfect, but a politics section that read: "River Vale has 3,000 registered voters (as of April 2006), accounting for 37% of the 2000 Census population of 9,449. of registered voters, 1,200 (40%) are registered as Democrats, 900 (30%) are Republicans, 150 (5%) are registered to other parties and 750 (25%) are Unaffiliated or Independent. In the 2004 presidential elections..." This would give a more meaningful indication of political leanings by municipality. Any thoughts? Alansohn 18:02, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Sure, that sounds good. This would be more useful and encyclopedic data.  If we could get aggregate data for the county page also, that would be good.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 18:32, 8 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Woops, I keep forgetting to sign in. I got the info from this site:


 * http://www.nj.gov/lps/elections/2004results/2004_municipality_presidential_results.html I should've cited the info, but didn't, my apologies. I saw a similar format in the Seattle-area municipalities and that's where I got the idea from. I think that the statistics I provided, for the most part, are indicitive of the political leanings- i.e. the wealthier suburbs- Saddle River, Alpine, etc.- lean Republican, while the poorer suburbs lean Democrat, and there are some wealthy suburbs, such as Demarest and Ridgewood, that lean (slightly) Democrat, etc. Cg41386


 * ETA: And I like Alan's idea, I'll see if I can find anything too. Cg41386 16:29, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I created a spreadsheet from the Bergen County data and used that to calculate percentages by party and compare to countywide numbers. See Allendale, New Jersey, River Vale, New Jersey and Teaneck, New Jersey for examples of municipalities that I've already updated. It gives a much better view of political trends, especially when combined with the 2004 election data. I have all 70 municipalities, now I just have to edit each page... Alansohn 19:08, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The section on voter registration looks good. Thanks for going to get the data, Alan.  Thanks, CG, for giving the source for the 2004 election numbers.  I've made some changes to that section on the River Vale article.  If those changes look good to you guys, I'd like to use that form for the rest of the municipal articles.  Comments?  Further changes?  Thanks.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 19:25, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Looks very nice and paints a better picture than what I originally had, thanks for the updates! --Cg41386 20:35, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but I've just noticed a problem with the 2004 election results. The numbers don't add up (literally).  For example, if I sum the votes for each candidate for Allendale, I get 3538 votes, but the number of listed ballots cast is 3545.  There were 7 ballots which are missing.  Perhaps they didn't count absentee ballots or there was ballot spoilage (hanging chads!).  You can see the same thing under the county totals, for a total of 1601 ballots not counted on this list.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 22:25, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Saint Vincent Martyr School
Lest we keep going back and forth, can you point me to guidlines in wikipedia as to what is an "unneeded link"? Thank you 18:13, 8 May 2006 (UTC)TC

Alright, by those criteria links to the diocese and province shouldn't be there either (there are links to those two websites from their own wiki page), so I took them out.

Administratorship
Administrators have certain privelidges (like rollback and blocking) - they can be seen at WP:ADMIN. They can be nominated on Requests for adminship, if that is something you are considering (you might want to quickly skim through Guide to requests for adminship also). I would like to note that from my experience on WP:RFA, that voters look a lot for talk and wikipedia namespace edits; some standards are laid out here. Regards, AndyZ t 21:35, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Dwight Morrow High school
Can you do me a favor and keep an eye on the DMHS page. People from random IP addresses keep adding POV and racist statements, the latest being

"However, students outside of Englewood who attend the Academies also feel discriminated against. Students from A@E usually get remarks such as "F*** you academies" from Dwight Morrow Students. Many also believe the two schools should remain separate because they earned the right to attend the academies (by applying) and A@E shouldn't be "just another regular public school."

I reverted it back to the old version. Earlier vandalism included:

"But it won't because we deal with stupid niggers and spics!!!"

And other such statements aimed to degrade DMHS students.

Thanks. Dmhsgarduate2006 01:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Chatham high school
Thanks for doing the disambig + rename for Chatham High school, i was just thinking about doing that myself. It's a shame that for some time the CHS link from chatham pointed to the Australian school though!

I just looked at your copyedit on CHS and noticed that you removed the Geolink template. Any particular reason why? -lensovet 14:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Essex County
Hello again. Those two sections in Essex County really either need to go or need a LOT of work. About the only verifiable thing in there is the buseiness about the Jewish population, which you had worked on (I read the Livingston talk page).

Its unreferenced, largely unverifiable, and includes what seems to be original research. Its beyond a POV issue, the more experienced I get with Wikipedia, the more I realize this...

Any thoughts?

Roodog2k 17:01, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, yeah, I think that parts of the article were written by User:Mr._Treason, a known vandal. Maybe I'm just being paranoid.  Also, I believe that the user who started West Essex may be the same person as well. Roodog2k 19:08, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

ICFAI Business School- Case Development Centre
Hi Alan, the above school is pretty far from N.J., but if you get a chance can you take a look at my proposed merger of it and let me know if you agree? Thanks! Regards, Accurizer 13:45, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Regarding factor groups
I am removing factor group categories from city articles IF the school district(s) of the city(ies) already have articles.

E.G. there are no factor group categories at Newark, New Jersey- instead they are at Newark Public Schools (New Jersey) WhisperToMe 22:54, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm just a guy who edits articles all over Wikipedia. That's why I edited the NJ articles. WhisperToMe 19:15, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Cherry_Hill_Township%2C_New_Jersey
I've embellished the transporation section a bit. Comments are welcome. - CobaltBlueTony 19:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

New Jersey state constitution
I've noted that the Constitution article states it was created in 1776. How does this coincide legally speaking with what I learned about the ratification of the Declaration of Independence. How did it take so long to create a new constitution, in 1844? - CobaltBlueTony 20:23, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: Teaneck NJ Infobox
No problem, the new box has a few fields that are a little different from the previous version. Mostly to make it more flexible for international use. Thanks for helping with the updates! harpchad 19:44, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Princeton_Regional_Schools
Hmm... I decided to rephrase what I meant there.

The district is headquartered in the borough of Princeton, and serves both the borough and the township. I will also mention where the schools are located (borough or township). WhisperToMe 19:52, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Postal offices
The reason why I mention postal addresses is that a lot of times, the postal address is not the same as the municipality.

For instance, Westfield High School is in unincoroporated Harris County but has a "Houston" postal address. WhisperToMe 02:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Garden State Parkway
You're quite welcome. I may get around to making some changes myself, but as you may have noticed, I'm technically on a wikibreak right now. -- Northenglish 21:37, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

JCBL
Alansohn, here is a link to a site describing the JCBL. It's a bit old, but is correct nonetheless.

http://www.injersey.com/day/story/0,2379,289834,00.html

Dwight Morrow High school
Hello. I found a new article in the Bergen Record that can be used as a reference to update the Dwight Morrow High School page. http://bergen.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk0ODAmZmdiZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTY5MzY3NDkmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkz Do you think some of this article can be used? Dmhsgarduate2006 01:44, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

New jersey images
Is there a category for new jersey-based images? I've been uploading images of state parks when i can, and would liek to organize them better. --larsinio ( poke )( prod ) 19:38, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Elease Evans
FYI - I have prodded. County freeholders are certainly NN. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 01:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * OMG! Fifty? Holy mackerel? And you say they've passed AfD's? I believe you - but this is amazing... Fine. I relent. Cheers. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 02:32, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * See what I did to Passaic, New Jersey in the past half-hour. Approve - or too much? Edit at will, I am done. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 02:34, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * And you should definitely archive your talk page, btw. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 02:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

600-series
hi alan, i was just wondering if you have been following the merge/rename discussion over on the 600-series roads list, and if you would be interested in contributing something to said discussion. have a good day!lensovet 23:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Princeton Junction Station
Hi. Since the Web page referenced for the FY 2005 Amtrak boardings boardings also includes the FY 2004 statistics side-by-side, I'm thinking the reference to the page with just the 2004 stats is redundant. (And with the Clockers gone, the Amtrak boardings for FY 2006 will show a huge drop.) Bob schwartz 18:32, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

NJT stations
Alan, I was just wondering why you changed (for only some stations) links from (NJT station) to just "Station". If you look, for example, on the Raritan Valley Line, all the stations have the "(NJT station)" suffix on them. That's where I got the idea in the first place, btw. lensovet 02:18, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, look at this edit: . Look at lines 50 & 70 in the diff - you did the reverse of what you wanted to :)! Also, for Mountain Station, I say we keep the "station" part in the link title (not in the article title), because while the other stations are town names, the word "mountain" by itself seems sort of strange. Let me know. lensovet 02:32, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the edits. I will continue on this tomorrow, hopefully. BTW, we should try to put in (or whatever that template is, I always forget) for those stations that already have articles. See you around. lensovet 04:23, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

New NJT rail template
Hi Alan, just wanted to give you a heads-up, I've made a new template for NJT rail routes. Take a look at it here – NJT rail line lensovet 18:05, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I looked at COTW and it looked kinda dead :\. My main wish, of course, is that all "plain" rail line templates get converted to the NJT rail line ones. For an example of what I mean, take a look at this edit. lensovet 23:44, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Burlington Mall
I reverted this edit since it could fall under promotion according WP:NOT. Yanksox (talk) 03:56, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Can we agree that the address be removed? That seems extremly promotional and unnecessary, and something the user can find on the talk page. I think you should also catch a glimpse of WP:INN. Yanksox (talk) 04:11, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, it was good agreeing with you. :) We can chat more on the talk page about this, if you want. Yanksox (talk) 04:16, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Warning spammers
Alan, please don't forget to warn spammers. You reverted no fewer thank five spam attacks from this guy. Warn them - sometimes they stop if they know their 'covert' activities have been exposed. Also, makes it easier to block them if/when necessary. Use spam-n etc. - CrazyRussian talk/email 14:12, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
You've looked after the Pingry article a lot, and it's really appreciated. You're better at this than me, maybe you could help out with getting the schmucks penalized. --Sempersoph 03:59, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Veotag removal as linkspam
Hello - In response to your message on my talk page, my issue wasn't so much with the content of the link, but the method in which it was added. A particular editor has done nothing but spam links to veotag across many articles, leading me to believe he's affiliated with the site and his sole purpose here is to promote the site. Either way, he's violating WP:SPAM by adding the same link across many articles.

However, if you feel that the one particular link you mention is worthy of addition, feel free to re-add it. My issue is only with spammed links. If an impartial editor later decides the link is worthwhile, it's no longer spam as far as I'm concerned.

My only suggestion would be to mention on the article's talk page a brief explanation for your re-adding it, so future editors will see a valid reason for leaving the link in place. Cheers! --AbsolutDan (talk) 17:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Red Bank
Bravo on your contributions to the Red Bank, New Jersey page. I'm impressed with your contributions as a whole. It's the work of a categorical mind. Yours, --TPB 01:11, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Paramus, New Jersey
Hi Alan, this is regarding your recent revert of the section heading to "Trivia." I changed this per Trivia. In addition, I've seen the inclusion of a "Trivia" section cited as sufficient grounds for removing a good article designation (see Talk:Dwight D. Eisenhower). Would you be opposed to changing this section to "Popular culture" or something similar? Regards, Accurizer 19:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, I made the change. Thanks for pointing out the television vs. movie thing, that was sloppiness on my part. It's always a pleasure to work with you too. Regards, Accurizer 19:24, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

List of cemeteries in Ocean County, New Jersey
I think you were unlucky to have this deleted. It's certainly a close call whether this is encyclopedic or not, it's was clearly verifiable. I suspect that if you keep up the good work on articles about New Jersey cemeteries, then the time will come when the lists become more obviously worth keeping. I've been very imperssed with the New Jersey cemetery articles - and indeed with the New Jersey wikiproject in general. TheGrappler 21:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Lists get a whole bad time in general. Some people have the rather bizarre view that if not every single member of a list is notable, the list should be deleted. In fact, the completeness element of lists is one of the best things - red links (or no links for obviously non-notable entries) provide context and also the opportunity to make new articles! I actually think that lists are so different from most articles in terms of content, and so many people are confused by WP:CLS (lists vs categories etc), that there should be an entirely distinct "Lists for deletion" page. After all, featured lists and featured articles are dealt with differently, I don't see why they shouldn't be dealt with differently at the other end! TheGrappler 02:29, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

new user
Check out new User:Wl219, a RL buddy of mine and a NJ-ian, who's editing up a storm. Perhaps you should welcome him to WP:NJ. - CrazyRussian talk/email 14:39, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the welcome!
Hey Alansohn, I will definitely check out WP:NJ and finally put some of my Jersey trivia to good use. :) Wl219 15:14, 28 June 2006 (UTC)