User talk:Alansohn/Archive 9

DYK
Number 12 (11 create/expand - 1 nominations)
 * Permanent Link to Main page with this DYK. Alansohn (talk) 02:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Your DYK nomination for Ernest Dynes was successful
Number 13 (11 create/expand - 2 nominations) Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 02:50, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Permanent Link to Main page with this DYK. Alansohn (talk) 02:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK nom
Number 14 (11 create/expand - 3 nominations)

DYK nom triple play
Number 17 (11 create/expand - 6 nominations)
 * Permanent Link to Main page with these DYKs. Alansohn (talk) 16:45, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Lack of civility
Clearly, you and I do not share the same viewa as to notability of educational establishments. Yes, colleges are generally considered notable. That does not, however mean that every department or school within a college becomes notable. Feel free to take a contrary position to me on the issues in each case, but I would ask that you desist from your recent comments which appear to suggest that in nominating I am doing wrong. Your recent comments are straying to the edge of civility, and towards a personal attack upon me. That is not, I'm sure your intention. Mayalld (talk) 21:46, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion
Hi, I wonder if you would share your views here, please. TerriersFan (talk) 03:29, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

darn whippersnappers!
Thanks for the laugh! "You kids get off my wiki-lawn!" Double Blue (Talk) 07:50, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK noms
Number 20 (11 create/expand - 9 nominations)
 * Thank you for your contributions too! I am also amazed at what contributors come up with. That hook for Josh A. Moore article shocked me. Royal broil  17:03, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

T:DYK.
Number 21 (11 create/expand - 10 nominations)

You're invited!
...to the next New York City Meetup!

In the morning, there are exciting plans for a behind-the-scenes guided tour of the American Museum of Natural History.

In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to discussing meta:Wikimedia New York City issues (see the last meeting's minutes).

In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and (weather permitting) hold a late-night astronomy event at Columbia's telescopes.

You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Meetup/NYC/Invite list. This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 00:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK noms
Number 23 (11 create/expand - 12 nominations)

new article
Hey- I created Russell Carter (basketball) last night. I had been putting it off for a while but finally got around to it. I still need to fill in his Notre Dame info though, but other than that it should be a complete article. I don't necessarily know why I'm telling you but it's probably because you help me out a lot and correct minor formatting issues (although this time I think there aren't any). Carter is a Paulsboro native so naturally I'm more interested in South Jersey notable figures. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:38, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Number 25 (11 create/expand - 14 nominations)

Well Done!!!
thx 4 thx ... your welcome Victuallers (talk) 16:28, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

WP:3RR claims
You may want to review WP:3RR, which clearly excepts "reverts to remove clearly libelous material, or unsourced or poorly sourced controversial material about living persons (see Biographies of living persons)", of which you have violated every single clause. I have to admit that I found it quite humorous that you would remove sourced content, replace it with malicious accusations supported exclusively by references to a blog entry, and then tag your own edits with a POV tag. At least even you recognize that your own edits violate Wikipedia policy. Alansohn (talk) 17:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The article is not about a living person, and it is your edits on top the the article as a whole which violates POV and warrants a POV tag. Please avoid unnecessary edit wars. Please stop this. Xcstar (talk) 17:30, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Number 26 (11 create/expand - 15 nominations)

DYK
Number 27 (11 create/expand - 16 nominations)

DYK - 1851 London Chess tournament
Number 28 (11 create/expand - 17 nominations)

Second DYK nom succeeding today
Number 29 (11 create/expand - 18 nominations)

Hate mail re River Dell Regional High School
YOU SUCK STOP DELEATING NOTABLE STUDENTS FROM RIVERDELL HIGH SCHOOL SERIOUSLY get a life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.74.245.228 (talk • contribs)


 * I have just blocked that account --feel free to remove this & any other abuse from your talk pageDGG (talk) 20:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the block. Leaving the message here helps remind me just how much love there is on Wikipedia. No need to remove or revert it. Alansohn (talk) 21:25, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK Nom
Number 30 (11 create/expand - 19 nominations)

Jared Kushner
The Wikipedia guidelines for bio of a living person are not met with unverifiable/unsubstantiated statements. I refer to the comments on his admission to Harvard. If we cannot agree, I propose we go to Wiki conflict resolution: "Step 6: Turn to others for help" Thanx,Mwinog2777 (talk) 03:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK nomination
Number 31 (11 create/expand - 20 nominations)

Number 32 (11 create/expand - 21 nominations)

New Jersey Route 4
... is now in Category:Limited access New Jersey state routes and parent Category:State highways in New Jersey Gjs238 (talk) 20:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Number 33 (11 create/expand - 22 nominations)

3RR
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Xcstar (talk) 23:51, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

 You have been blocked for edit-warring on Dane Rauschenberg. To contest this block, please reply here on your talk page by adding the text along with the reason you believe the block is unjustified, or email the blocking administrator or any administrator from this list. --  tariq abjotu  00:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry Alansohn, I took another look at the issue but have to say I completely agree with Sandstein above. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 20:39, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I await your long-promised excuse for the supposed "privacy" reasons used to expunge the clearest possible example of sockpuppetry by Racepacket and Xcstar that led to this pathetic abuse of Wikipedia policy by User:Xcstar. Alansohn (talk) 21:02, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh I see. I couldn't understand why you said you didn't receive email, and thought I must have been talking to an imposter. But I see that "not one " means not one today. I don't understand what exactly it is you want, but I'll tell you what I did. I blocked him for 24 hours and intended to block Xcstar indefinately once the revert warring block expired. However I see that another admin had already done it. Racepacket asked me to delete the sockpuppet report, which i was happy to do as I'd just blocked him. The block stays in the log as evidence so there is no real need to keep the page. The page is of course still visible to admins. If you think that is an abuse of policy then I can't help that. What else do you want done? You haven't told me. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 22:53, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Number 34 (11 create/expand - 23 nominations)

Thanks for your help finding good articles and nominating them at DYK, Alan! --JayHenry (talk) 06:56, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Number 35 (11 create/expand - 24 nominations)

Battle of Calderón Bridge
Thank you for the DYK nom. You got there before me :) Chris.B (talk) 23:52, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Cascade Locks and Canal
Number 36 (11 create/expand - 25 nominations)

Tuanku Ja'afar Cup
Number 37 (11 create/expand - 26 nominations)

Middletown High School South
Hi there,

I believe that with this edit, you actually meant to do this? Just wanted to make sure I was right about what you meant by "unsourced statement".

Cheers! - Revolving Bugbear  09:06, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Did you know?
Number 38 (11 create/expand - 27 nominations)

DYK noms
39-41 Number 41 (11 create/expand - 30 nominations) 42-45 Number 45 (11 create/expand - 34 nominations)

Traffic in Towns
Number 46 (11 create/expand - 35 nominations)

Grand Staircase (White House)
Number 47 (11 create/expand - 36 nominations)

DYK noms
48-50 Number 50 (11 create/expand - 39 nominations)

One more!!
Number 51 (11 create/expand - 40 nominations)

and another two...do you want Everything on a Waffle?
52-53 Number 53 (11 create/expand - 42 nominations)

Your welcome Alan .... although it is a number of peoplw who make DYK work .... you can select other peoples hooks for next update... admins are requireed only to do the copy to the main page you joust need to make sure the hooks and articles are ok by dyk and wiki rules. Nomming is good as it thrills editors who think no one has read their article Victuallers (talk) 16:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

The Helen Morgan Story
Hello. I was advised by an administrator that a reference linked to an article requiring a paid subscription to read should not be used because it's not available to the majority of readers, which is why I deleted the one you added to this article. Do you have access to the full New York Times article you cited? If so, does it specify Doris Day refused to play Helen Morgan when she was offered the role in 1950 for the reason I mentioned? Unless it does, it's not a valid reference backing up my statement, is it? Thank you. MovieMadness (talk) 16:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry to butt in, but I have comments. You are correct about links to paid subscriptions. Since the New York Times is available in both print and online format, I would disagree with the application of that rule. A good case of ignore all rules. In this case, I would use cite news to directly cite the article as if I were reading the actual paper. I would omit the web link though. All of the same information like author from the paper copy is available, right? Royal broil  16:50, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your explanation re: the use of references, and thank you very much for nominating two of my articles for DYK. In error I thought someone else had done so because he sent me messages telling them they had been chosen. I appreciate your thinking they were good enought to warrant attention! MovieMadness (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

dyk
Number 54 (11 create/expand - 43 nominations)

Number 55 (11 create/expand - 44 nominations)

Your edits to Concord High School (New Hampshire)
There's no reason why the footnotes need to contain quotes of the references. If a user wants to verify a statement, they will click the footnote and visit the link. Wikipedia references never include quotes. Also, I standardized the format for the reference lists - why did you revert the formatting? We need to keep formatting in standard WP styles for consistency, using templates. --Dan Leveille TALK 05:45, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * There's no point in reformatting something when there's a developed and accepted format for it already. Be respectful of other's edits. I wasn't aware of the quote parameter, you could have simply added it in rather than reverting my edits. In response to your quote, I'll quote the Manual of Style: "consistency promotes professionalism" and "style and formatting should be applied consistently throughout an article." --Dan Leveille TALK 06:03, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I was formatting the references, as I do with any pages on WP that are inconsistent. There needs to be consistency across the site. It wasn't intended to add information, obviously. --Dan Leveille TALK 06:10, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * That's just one quote. There needs to be consistency throughout Wikipedia, obviously. That's the point of templates. --Dan Leveille TALK 06:17, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm talking about consistency in general. OBVIOUSLY we want consistency throughout wikipedia, not just articles. If you think WP shouldn't be consistent then I can't help you, buddy. --Dan Leveille TALK 06:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Your DYK nomination for Hurricane Henri (1979) was successful
Not counted as a dup nomination Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 06:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No offense, but can you honestly count this one? The user self-nommed first. Personally I don't think it counts :/ Wizardman  15:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No offense taken. The two nominations were almost identically worded which may have led to the assumption that I deserved credit for the DYK nomination, when it appears clear that I do not. Alansohn (talk) 18:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Incivility
Alan, please retract this gross demonstration of incivility. Eusebeus's humorous/sarcastic provocation certainly did not justify such behavior in response. In fact, nothing would justify such behavior. Please observe WP:CIVIL, which you seem to breach with little restraint. Thank you. Hús ö  nd  07:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * A ludicrously hypocritical admin who has the gall to abuse RfC for purposes of retaliation, now that's what I call incivility. This pales so far, that it's very hard to take your comments seriously, as anything other than continuing retaliation. Alansohn (talk) 10:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Alan, I have blocked you 24 hours for your response above. I regret doing this, but all users are required to be civil, and you have gone too far this time. When the block expires, please refrain from further displays of incivility. Thank yo. Hús  ö  nd  17:17, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This is the clearest possible abuse of administrative privileges and an explicit violation of Conflict of Interest policy by User:Husond, an admin who has already filed an RfC in retaliation for a clearly-justified RfA vote and has an unfortunate history of WP:COI violations related to improper closures of articles for deletion. That this same admin can pursue this conflict of interest with the goal of creating a non-existent conflict only adds to the disgrace. Alansohn (talk) 17:36, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Peter de Villiers
Number 56 (11 create/expand - 45 nominations)

Robert Peake the Elder
Number 57 (11 create/expand - 46 nominations)

Rudget!
Dear Alansohn, my sincere thanks for your support in my second request for adminship, which ended with 113 supports, 11 opposes, and 4 neutral. I would especially like to thank my admin coach and nominator, Rlevse and Ryan Postlethwaite who in addition to Ioeth all inspired me to run for a second candidacy. I would also like to make a special mention to Phoenix-wiki, Dihyrdogen Monoxide and OhanaUnited who all offered to do co-nominations, but I unfortunately had to decline. I had all these funny ideas that it would fail again, and I was prepared for the worst, but at least it showed that the community really does have something other places don't. Who would have though Gmail would have been so effective? 32 emails in one week! (Even if it does classify some as junk :P) I'm glad that I've been appointed after a nail biting and some might call, decision changing RFA, but if you ever need anything, just get in touch. The very best of luck for 2008 and beyond, Rudget . 16:24, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Stephen W. Thompson
Number 58 (11 create/expand - 47 nominations)

You gotta love one admin supporting another, regardless of the clear abuse perpetrated by the other admin. This is not an ad hominem attack. This is shameless abuse of administrative privileges by an admin with a proven track record of retaliatory action and a clear conflict of interest. It boggles the mind that the clearest policy directive of WP:BLOCK that "Blocks are used to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, not to punish users" should be abused when there was no damage or disruption occuring and the sole purpose was continued retaliation by User:Husond. Alansohn (talk) 00:53, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Number 59 (11 create/expand - 48 nominations)

DYK noms
60-61 Number 61 (11 create/expand - 50 nominations) Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 16:35, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Number 62 (11 create/expand - 51 nominations)

Number 63 (11 create/expand - 52 nominations)

Number 64 (11 create/expand - 53 nominations)

Number 65 (11 create/expand - 54 nominations)

DYK
66-68 Number 68 (11 create/expand - 57 nominations)

Thanks for the laugh.
Miltary-Boy Scout-Industrial Complex. Thats the funniest thing I've read on here in a while. Hope this returns the favor. :) --ChrisRuvolo (t) 19:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Madison Street (Manhattan)
It is looking much better. We need to remove the red links. Bearian&#39;sBooties (talk) 03:38, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK January 17
Number 69 (11 create/expand - 58 nominations)

Number 70 (11 create/expand - 59 nominations) Props for the My Fair Lady (jazz album) nom as well!-Andrew c [talk] 04:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Number 71 (11 create/expand - 60 nominations)

Number 72 (11 create/expand - 61 nominations)

Pea Island Life-Saving Station
Number 73 (11 create/expand - 62 nominations)

U.S. Roads Newsletter, Issue 1

 * Want to help on next month's newsletter? Don't want to receive these in future? Want to change your method of delivery? – It's all here. —Mitch32contribs 19:58, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Good Samaritan Hospital
Thanks for the copyedit, I can't believe I missed so many! Travellingcari (talk) 05:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Glad you think Good Sam was worth the help.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Travellingcari (talk • contribs) 20:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Block notice
You have been blocked for 24 hours for making personal attacks after being warned, and for Tendentious editing. Dreadstar †  18:11, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * WikiProject New Jersey will miss you for today. :'-( NHRHS  2010   19:57, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noticing, but it appears that this issue may well be on its way to a peaceful resolution. I take off one day per week from editing Wikipedia each week, and it's mind-boggling just how much vandalism accumulates in that 24-hour period. Thanks again for all your NJ efforts. Alansohn (talk) 21:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your email communications, Alansohn. I've unblocked you in good faith per our discussion.  Dreadstar  †  21:13, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Edit staging
1/17
 * ...that the effects of trauma on memory can be seen by the post-surgical results of HM, a patient who can no longer form any new Long-term memories? -- new article created by User:ViMITgirl, nom by


 * ...that the New York City Sheriff's Office, once responsible for criminal investigations and running the city's jails, now performs such tasks as enforcing parking tickets and collecting unpaid judgments? -- new article created by User:SGT141, nom by


 * ...born in Belfast, Frank Loughran played for the Socceroos at the 1956 Summer Olympics in Melbourne, the first time his adopted country of Australia competed in Olympic soccer? -- new article created by User:Simondoyle, nom by

Autoblock
- Block has been removed. Autoblock remains. Alansohn (talk) 22:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I've cleared the entry at Special:IPBlocklist. Could you try again? Thanks! Addhoc (talk) 22:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It's working now! Alansohn (talk) 22:46, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK nom
Number 74 (11 create/expand - 63 nominations)

Your recent edits
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Double DYK
75-76 Number 76 (11 create/expand - 65 nominations)

SSP case
See outcome of the SSP case you submitted here. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 11:12, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * See response on my talk page. Tks. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 21:52, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Checkuser just confirmed Runreston is NOT Racepacket. But keep an eye out for new editors on that topic. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 22:50, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * More info, hmm. . — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 01:10, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Frank Loughran
77-82 Number 77 (11 create/expand - 71 nominations) 78 79 80 81 82

St. Elizabeth's Church, Wiesbaden
Number 83 (11 create/expand - 72 nominations)

Ruth Maier
Hi, and thanks for your kind words. I'm sure I'll get back to initiating and editing articles on New Jersey again - I've made contact with the Durand House Society, which is Maplewood's historical society, and hopefully that'll yield more material on Maplewood.

Thanks also for nominating Ruth Maier for DYK. It really is a fascinating story. Just as astonishing is the story of Moritz Rabinowitz, which deserves a rather extensive biographical profile. Incidentally, there's an off-Broadway puppet show about him playing in New York now called Fabrik. Also, there's a documentary about him called The Man Who Loved Haugesund.--Leifern (talk) 15:23, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Robert McGill Loughridge
Number 84 (11 create/expand - 73 nominations)

Alvin C. York Institute
Number 85 (11 create/expand - 74 nominations)

DYK
Number 86 (11 create/expand - 75 nominations)

Frank E. Rodgers
Number 87 (11 create/expand - 76 nominations)

Question for Alansohn regarding Tenafly
Hope that this is the proper place to ask for clarification. I added our Tenafly.tv site to the Tenafly page this morning and just noticed that you had undone the change. I'm rather new at this, but was hoping you might be able to clarify why. While we are not the offical Tenafly town site, our site focuses solely on Tenafly and gives a unique video perspective.

Thank you for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iliketohike (talk • contribs)

Tenafly reply
I appreciate you taking the time to reply. I have visited and read the External link policy you referenced and found it very informative. I realize a hybrid site such as ours can be difficult to classify since the software we use does include blog and social media capabilities. While our site features a blog section, we have only used this feature to provide a welcome messages to our visitors and do not consider ourselves a blog site by any stretch.

Was hoping to provide you with some additional information and ask if it would be possible for you to revisit our site and consider re-including it...

The main purpose our our site is to handpick and distill videos about Tenafly, NJ. We are not a commercial site and do not accept any advertising or sell any services. Our hope is that the videos provide a distinctly different and useful way for visitors interested in Tenafly to learn about the city, much in the way that other select town guides are sometimes included in Wikipedia listings.

For example, parents considering a move to Tenafly may be interested in detailed stats provided by the NCES link, potential students might be more interested to see videos of different school events and video scrapbook albums of different classes.

Thank you again for your time and consideration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iliketohike (talk • contribs) 20:48, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

HMS Chanticleer (1808)
Number 88 (11 create/expand - 77 nominations)

Ingo Renner
Number 89 (11 create/expand - 78 nominations)

A question
On Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Tobias, you came up with excellent sources that somehow didn't show up for any of the Google queries I tried. Which news search did you use? User:Dorftrottel 09:11, January 26, 2008

Compounds of oxygen
Number 90 (11 create/expand - 79 nominations)

Anita Nall
Number 91 (11 create/expand - 80 nominations)

1947 Rose Bowl
Number 92 (11 create/expand - 81 nominations)

The last copy of the Rose Bowl program I have dates from 1986 and I have looked in vain for a LONG time to find the Rose Bowl records. That one little book compiles more about the history of the game than any other source. This is my first and only barn star bestowed upon a fellow wikipedian. Of all the interaction I have had at this site for the last couple of years, finding that program was, by far, the most helpful. Thanks a million! Group29 (talk) 21:43, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Bow High School
Hi, looks like we both had the same good idea at the same time :-) I won't edit it further tonight to avoid an edit clash. TerriersFan (talk) 03:21, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Content related to George Thomas Coker at Hearts and Minds (film)
You have never responded to the issues I had raised here on your talk page (since archived) and at Talk:Hearts and Minds (film) regarding your removal of relevant sourced content from the film article. I am seeking a detailed explanation for your removal of this content and the specific Wikipedia policies justifying removal of sourced content in the absence of any issue raised by any editor of the article other than yourself. While I would have hoped that you would have undone this removal yourself in good faith, no action has been taken. Before pursuing conflict resolution steps on the Coker article, I will be addressing issues with the film article first as there is you are the only other party to the conflict there. I look forward to obtaining this explanation, so that appropriate dispute resolution steps can be taken based on the the explanation provided. Alansohn (talk) 03:48, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I've already explained it to you in detail here. Dreadstar  †  03:52, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I have responded to all of the justifications proffered there, which you have not responded to. Nor have you addressed your repeated displays of bad faith and personal attacks in your screed there. I am still awaiting a legitimate policy explanation justifying removal of sourced content in a clearly relevant article before pursuing appropriate conflict resolution regarding your administrative actions. Alansohn (talk) 04:00, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * There are no personal attacks in my "screed", as you call it. I pointed out your violations of WP:POINT and WP:UNDUE and I asked you about your motivations regarding Coker because of your behavior in the matter.  I blocked you for continuing to make uncivil personal attacks after being warned several times, then unblocked you in good faith after you emailed me promising to stop attacking other editors and find consensus for your proposed version; but I see you continue to make uncivil comments about other editors.  I suggest you relax and have a cup of tea.  If you believe I have acted inappropriately, then by by all means take it up the chain. Dreadstar  †  05:12, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Useful "Notable Alumni" link
I found this link on the NJSIAA website. Granted, it's mostly North Jersey schools that are represented, but it's still a really great source for "Notable Alumni" into their respective Wikipedia high school pages. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:17, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK
93-96 Number 93 (11 create/expand - 85 nominations) 94 95 96
 * Corrected DYK article inadvertently listed as Roy Riegels. Alansohn (talk) 05:49, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks ... someone screwed up in putting the credits together. That's what happens when you do this late. Daniel Case (talk) 05:36, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Nicole Atkins/Neptune City
Bearing in mind that numerous sources list Neptune City as Nicole Atkins’ hometown, I offer the following that contradict that assertion. “This spooky (and by that I mean ghostly and airy, not frightening) quality seems a natural sonic destination for Atkins, who grew up on a river in Neptune, New Jersey and used to imagine that ghosts were lurking in the fog.” “Neptune City," an indirect ode to her hometown of Neptune, NJ, is a final and triumphant closing track.” and “She grew up in Neptune, NJ, right across the street from Shark River.” And the clincher: “But the neighborhood I live in is called Shark River -- it's part of Neptune -- I live right across the street from the river, and there's a bird sanctuary.” Notice that Atkins mentions not only her neighborhood, but states explicitly that it’s part of Neptune, not Neptune City. (different town) There are no named neighborhoods within tiny Neptune City - Shark River or otherwise.  She is talking about Shark River Hills.

Furthermore, a search on WhitePages.com for the name Atkins in Neptune City returns only five listings, none of which are actually in Neptune City. Rather they are all in Neptune. Indeed, the first entry returned is Atkins’ mother (see her Wiki entry; Early Life), with an address listing in Shark River Hills. (click on “Listing Details”, then “Map”, then zoom out two clicks.)

Now, being the Jerseyphile you are, you should appreciate this; See Atkins’ “Journey Through Neptune City, Vol. 1” video here. She takes the camera person back to the section of the river where she grew up and was inspired to write her songs. Pause the video at 0:34. The camera is pointed west (as per the direction of the sun). Were she standing in Neptune City, the East End Avenue bridge between Neptune City and Shark River Hills would be plainly visible. Instead, there is no bridge and the water curves to the left before snaking back behind a wooded land mass, indicating she is in Shark River Hills, likely around South Riverside or Pinewood Drive. Now look at Atkins as she stands on the river from 0:39 to 1:44. If she were standing in the grassy area of Neptune City overlooking the Shark River, then the docks along S. Riverside Drive in the northeast section of Shark River Hills would be plainly visible behind her across the river. Instead, it is a mostly wooded area. (The Evans/Marconi Road area of Wall Township ) Now look at her at 1:19. The land across the river from her curves dramatically to the left like a crescent. This can only be Belmar, specifically the area along Route 35 and MacLearie Park. Again, were she in Neptune City, the land mass across the river would simply curve right and there would be open water behind her, with Seaview Island and the new Route 35 bridge faintly visible behind her. They aren't.

All of the sources listing Neptune City as her hometown, including the Bergen Record, are based far away from Monmouth County and the authors are obviously making an un-fact-checked assumption based solely on the album title. For an analogous situation, many authors refer to Asbury Park as Bruce Springsteen’s hometown based, partly, on the title of his debut album, yet he never maintained a residence there. Indeed, not only did Rolling Stone’s Melissa Maerz incorrectly refer to “Atkins’ native Neptune City”, she also referred to Brooklyn as “her current home.” Atkins hasn’t lived in Brooklyn since 2004 – Maerz's article was published in November 2007.

I understand Wikipedia’s liberal verification rules, but this is why it often has a reputation for being an unreliable source of information. It doesn’t matter how often something is published or where it’s published. If it’s wrong, it’s wrong. As you've expressed an interest in gathering as accurate and comprehensive a file on New Jersey municipal information as possible, I hope you’ll appreciate the research above and understand why I removed Atkins as a notable resident from Neptune City. Regards. Terrapin7 (talk) 20:36, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I understand the confusion and I guess it's hard to explain on paper. In case you couldn't tell, I grew up in the area and can tell you it's just accepted that when someone says "Neptune" they don't need to say "Township" for the same reason you can say "Wall" without the need for "Township." However, if someone says "Neptune City," you know that they are talking about the borough, which is separate from plain old Neptune. (The one exception to this rule is "Point," which refers to Point Pleasant Beach rather than Point Pleasant Borough. Again, one of those things you just know if you're from there.) If Atkins casually said just "Neptune" in an interview, anyone from the neighborhood would know she meant the township. Beyond the Wiki entries for each municipality, I'd direct you to this Asbury Park Press story from April. . See the paragraph entitled "...and in Neptune City", which makes clear that it is a distinct town unto itself. Also, in a recent Village Voice interview, Atkins specifies Neptune "City" in her discussion about the Bilow's liquors and the fact that people "don't know it's an actual town." I know Wiki has its guidelines, but it kills those of with an intimate knowledge of the area to see factual inaccuracies like this. Nonetheless, I'll leave it for now.Terrapin7 (talk) 21:45, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

See proposal
Please see proposal here: Talk:George_Thomas_Coker. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 01:16, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Pls see User_talk:Rlevse. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 21:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Village Elementary School
My associate Styrofoam1994, and I have been working on a new article that is relevant to the state of New Jersey. The article is about the upper elementary school known as Village Elementary School. Will you please aid us in completing or rather strengthening up this article? Best regards,-- Durza Twink TALK (talk) 02:04, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the help on the article on Frederick Madison Allen
Thank you for the help with the article I started recently (January 2008) on Frederick Madison Allen. I did not have a lot of information about this man, but wanted to start the article to avoid a confusing wikilink in the article on diabetic diet. It was good of you to increase this article and to add some sources, and I see that you come from New Jersey - did this man work there, or in Massachusetts, or in both? I have read different things in different sources! Also, I think you put in the wikilink to Elliott P. Joslin -  I did not know that there was an article on him, so thank you for that. Thank you again for your help on this article, it is much appreciated. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:23, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK nomi
Number 97 (11 create/expand - 86 nominations)

DYK
98-99 Number 99 (11 create/expand - 88 nominations)

Charles R. Brayton
Number 100 (11 create/expand - 89 nominations)

CAL + GCT
Is there any way to align the two conferences (in Cape-Atlantic League) so that the spacing looks better? You know, to make them evenly spread out across the page? It's just a vanity issue but it kinda bugs me and I don't know how to fix it. Also, I created the Gloucester County Times a couple nights ago. Jrcla2 (talk) 02:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Can you align the Colonial Conference (New Jersey) into 6 columns like you did (albeit 5) for the Cape-Atlantic League? I tried to do it myself but couldn't figure it out. Thanks in advance. Jrcla2 (talk) 20:43, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

DYK nom
Number 101 (11 create/expand - 90 nominations)

two new newspaper articles
Letting you know that Today's Sunbeam and Bridgeton News are now up and running. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:18, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Jimbo quote on Inclusionism vs. Deletionism
Great quote from Jimbo on your User: page. Thanks for keeping that alive. --AStanhope (talk) 18:49, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Number 102 (11 create/expand - 91 nominations)

Ralph The Fisherman
Saw your comment about tis article. Doesn't the fact that A) he sits to this day on the Ocean Grove pier, and B) That Ocean Grove's governing body (Camp Meeting Assoc.) placed his image on the 2002 beach badge prove that he exists? Bilbobag (talk) 13:42, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't a photo of the 2002 beach badge, that is issued by the governing body of Ocean Grove (a third party), indicate he exists? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bilbobag (talk • contribs) 15:39, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

See your point. The Badge has the picture of the dummy as he sits on the pier (Blue whaler's hat, blue and white striped shirt, red vest), and the word "Ralph" printed next to it.

Thus it would prove that an independent third party, that is a quasi-governmental organization, recognizes that there is a "fisherman" wearing a blue whaler's hat, blue and white striped shirt, red vest, named Ralph, in Ocean Grove, sitting on the pier. That would seem to verify his existence.

Demonstrating that the loss of the fishing pier in Ocean Grove was a devastating blow to Ocean Grove residents and the Ocean Grove Fishing Club can be verified by this article: ''A POINT OF PRIDE SWEPT OFF BY STORM OCEAN GROVE LOST MORE THAN TIMBER. THE PIER WAS PART OF ITS LIFE.'' Source: William R. Macklin, INQUIRER STAFF WRITER Published on December 14, 1992, Page S01, Philadelphia Inquirer. A photo of a T-shirt with the image and name of Ralph on it, and the words Ocean Grove Fishing Club would also confirm his Ralph's existence. Stating that this t-shirt was printed by the private Ocean Grove Fishing Club in 1994 as a means to raise money to help rebuild the fishing pier would demonstrate his importance to the town. Reprising the fact that this was the first fictional character to be placed on their beach badge would further support this. Bilbobag (talk) 19:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Bilbobag (talk) 19:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

What's your status at WP:NJSCR?
Asking because:

1) There's a new proposal at WT:NJSCR.

2) Its always good to keep in check.

If you can reply thanks!Mitch32contribs 19:40, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

High School of Art and Design
Alan: You were going to keep an eye on our page but I believe you haven't checked it in a few weeks. Someone added their name on recently (Feb. 5th) then made some additions to it (Feb. 6th). He shouldn't be on it, not that he isn't successful, but people need to stop adding themselves on. I've been tied up with other projects and just had a look at the page tonight (Feb. 10th). I noticed the idiot left this at the bottom of the Notable Alumni list: 13:32, 6 February 2008 (UTC)Eyeman100 (talk)

It's hard for me to contact you on your "Talk" page, since it runs so deep and takes so long to load. Plus I don't know all the HTML codes to use (I had to check to see how to make the above title in bold). Would prefer to leave you notes and questions on my "Talk" page. Would appreciate it if you could get back to me there, and answer a question I left for you least month. Thanks, Yvonne.

Alan: I guess you just made a quick visit, while I was leaving you a note my my Talk page, and you removed the line I wrote about above. You also added some reference notes -- many thanks. But you didn't remove the man who added his name on (the same one who left that line below the Notable Alumni). As I mentioned I wish we could communicate on my Talk page, since yours takes so long to load and it says "This page is 271 kilobytes long". It event takes time to review the edit before I click "Save". I would prefer not to leave the dates of birth (Amy Heckerling) and death (Bill Haire) since many of those on the list are deceased, including his wife Hazel. Why would we leave one for someone who is living, however? This would mean everyone would have to have those dates, no? Would you please remove Ivan from the list? I know him and wish I could do it anonymously. My username would give it away.

How come the date and user-talk info is not appearing at the end of my edits (on the Talk pages)? I am still adding Yvonnefitz (talk) 03:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC) in the Edit Summary box. Am I doing something wrong?

February 16th: Alan, are you no longer watching our page? Another un-notable name was added recently, and "filmmaker" got changed into two words. The currently accepted version is one. The newest alumni name to be added, as well as Ivan Sherman (who added himself and then added more to his biographic descriptive line), need to be removed. Yvonnefitz (talk) 19:48, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Category:Bridges in New York and child categories
Category:Bridges in New York has the following notation: "Note: for convenience ALL bridges in New York State are included in this category. This includes all the bridges that can also be found in the subcategories." There has also been discussion at WikiProject_Bridges. I had also removed parent categories from articles, but after being informed of the above, returned the parent cats. I see you removed the parent cats, so thought I'd share the above info with you. Gjs238 (talk) 21:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Cat deletion?
I restored your deletion of an anon contribution to Brooklyn Bridge which appeared to me to be appropriate (addition of category Bridges in New York City) - Leonard G. (talk) 00:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Sam O'Steen
Thanks for your edits on this new article! The New York Times obit that you added as a reference was great, but I think their count of films that O'Steen edited for Mike Nichols isn't correct, as you'll see in the filmography. I mention it because I was thinking of using this tidbit as the hook for a "Did you know" submission. Cheers - Easchiff 02:04, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Funny that you mention it, but I had submitted a DYK nomination for O'Steen, mentioning his collaborations with Nichols as part of the hook. I tried to find a source that had the number of films he had done for Nichols as 12, but all I could find was the mention in the NYTimes obit of nine. I'm glad I was able to help expand the article. Thanks for all your work on getting it started. Alansohn (talk) 02:59, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Here's the hook that I'd drafted: ...that Sam O'Steen edited nearly all of film director Mike Nichols' films for thirty years, including Dustin Hoffman's debut film The Graduate (1967)? Yours is just fine, excepting the 9 vs. 12 issue -Easchiff 03:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Redirects
Thanks for your response. Since I preserved almost all of the information in most of the articles in one place, I didn't expect there would be a strong response to these mergers. Both Whale tail and Buttock cleavage will probably fail another AfD at this point, so in an effort to avoid lengthy process, I simply moved that information to an article where it can be improved upon with a better connection to other small articles. I've only been involved in an AfD for Handbra and since I desperately wanted to avoid another AfD conflict over this article, I simply moved it to another, larger article, where the information fit better. I would still like to avoid the AfD process here, so if these steps are ok with you, let me know and I will redirect the articles again. If you dispute any of them, I'll file an AfD on those individual accounts and we can go from there. Thanks, Cumulus Clouds (talk) 16:56, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello
I'm new on the NJ project, and I have an idea for a list: towns in NJ.(see List of towns in New York. I posted this on the project page, but since you were the "leader" of this project, I thought I'd tell you. And also, how do you add a template on your talk page that says your in this project? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mm40 (talk • contribs) 22:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Sam O'Steen DYK
Number 103 (11 create/expand - 92 nominations)

USRD Newsletter - Issue 2

 * Want to help on next month's newsletter? Don't want to receive these in future? Want to change your method of delivery? – It's all here. —<font color="#2E82F4">O <font color="#2E82F4">bot  (t • c) 03:23, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Brookline High School Athletics section
In case you have not realized, in the past the BHS Athletics section (as well as the Notable Alumni section) is a fairly popular hotspot by current BHS students to attempt to get their names on the Wiki page and land some fame to show their friends.

Regardless if the track team won a regional title and its sourced or not, I can bet you that Doesone (the editor who originally put it in) is on that team. We don't want to go down that road where every BHS team or athlete who we never heard of that won something now warrants to be included on the page. Heck, I know the BHS Girls Swim Team won back-to-back regional titles in the late 1980s, but I wouldn't put it on the page, would you? 05:41, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Sooner or later, Alan, someone else is going to remove it and its not going to be me. I do think you are in the wrong. 15:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.154.111.14 (talk)

Alan, I'm going to be contacting the regular editors on the Brookline High page and see if they share your view. If they decide to remove it, you are not allowed to put it back in. Agreed? 15:42, 17 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.154.111.14 (talk)

Regardless if you agree or not, this dispute is now up for a vote on the Brookline High School Discussion page. Put your vote in on that page by no later than Sunday, February 24. I'm only being fair to you. 19:22, 20 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.154.111.14 (talk)

Miles Lerman
Number 104 (11 create/expand - 93 nominations)

Kyle Hines
Another South Jersey person I created a page for. He's about to become only the 6th player in NCAA basketball history to score 2,000 points, grab 1,000 rebounds and block 300 shots in a career. A 2004 graduate of Timber Creek Regional High School in Erial. Jrcla2 (talk) 07:04, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Bow High School
Got your comment about the references. I think I did one more edit before I saw what you wrote. In light of the excitement of the weekend, you're probably right about letting things cool off. Thanks for your edits. --Ken Gallager (talk) 18:32, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Need your help
Hey- Could you go to Gene R. Nichol and scroll down to the very bottom of the page where there's an "incumbent succession box" template. It says that he's still the president of W&M and that "Incumbent" is going to be succeeding him. Nichol actually stepped down as president a week ago and the interim president is W. Taylor Reveley, III. I don't know how to get the template to show this status change and was hoping maybe you knew how to fix it. Thanks again. Jrcla2 (talk) 05:42, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I played with the box last night and I can't figure out what the successor parameter is. I'll play around with it some more. Alansohn (talk) 12:30, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I figured out how to fix it. I went to Nichol's predecessor Timothy J. Sullivan's page and saw that since his presidential incumbent box was already completed, I just copied the format and inserted the updated information that was applicable to Nichol's page. I don't know why I didn't think of that last night. Thanks for the help though. Jrcla2 (talk) 16:32, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

campusj
Why did you take down my request to delete this article? I think deletion is a very justified measure in this case of a triviality that is now a nothing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.229.30.16 (talk) 06:38, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Gil Student
User Alansohn has deleted the tags you placed on Gil Student despite no changes haven taken place in the 3 weeks or so since you placed the two flags on the article. I pointed this out, but he persisted. You may wish to take a look and decide on appropriate action, if any. Qwertyqazqaz1 (talk) 23:45, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

*cough* archive *cough* Also, AIV reports
Hey there! Thanks for your AIV report. I'm just dropping by to give you a friendly reminder about IPs and vandalism. Remember, an IP address can be dynamic or shared, and is rarely used by just one person. Therefore, saying an IP is a vandalism-only account is a bit unfair, as there may be only one or two problem users. Just dropping a note for future reference. Cheers, <font color="#7d7d7d">Master of Puppets  <font color="#7d7d7d">Call me MoP! ☺  01:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I know, the pattern clearly shows someone with bad intentions, but I like to play it safe. In the end it depends on how you decide to judge, I guess. Cheers, <font color="#7d7d7d">Master of Puppets  <font color="#7d7d7d">Call me MoP! ☺  16:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Bow High School
I don't know if you're still watching this article, but would you stop by the talk page to offer your opinion on a statenent about the school's addiction to Facebook that Dimension31 insists needs to be included? Thanks, Metros (talk) 01:39, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

New mailing list
There has been a mailing list created for Wikipedians in the New York metropolitan area (list: Wikimedia NYC). Please consider joining it!  Cbrown1023   talk   20:37, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

New mailing list
There has been a mailing list created for Wikipedians in the New York metropolitan area (list: Wikimedia NYC). Please consider joining it!  Cbrown1023   talk   20:38, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Bernardsville Celebrity List
Hi. Point of clarification - Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis did not live in Bernardsville, New Jersey, she had a house in neighboring Stevenmitchell (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 07:11, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Al Gore III
It may or may not interest you, but I went ahead and did a grievance about User:JERRY. I didn't like the comments he had toward you, and I especially didn't like what he said about me. I don't want him to get in trouble, but responding in kind seems like the worse of two choices. Mandsford (talk) 23:07, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Odle Middle School
Hi, my view is that the photo of a teacher is not appropriate. I have removed it once but the creator has replaced it. What do you think? TerriersFan (talk) 22:14, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I have now started a discussion at Talk:Odle Middle School where I should welcome your views. TerriersFan (talk) 17:29, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Pleasant Valley Sunday, was selected for DYK!
Number 105 (12 create/expand - 93 nominations) Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid (talk) 17:01, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Gabreil Daveis Tavern House
Hey Alan, do you think I should switch the name to Hillman Hospital House, as that's the name in the National Registry? - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 15:05, 28 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I appreciate your support! I think the redirect helps out sufficiently. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 15:14, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Pittsford Mendon High School
Although I understand some of your recent edits of the Pittsford Mendon High School article (especially those about removing unused infobox items), I would like to ask you about some of the changes: It looks as if the article was reverted to an earlier revision, although your edit summary does not say that. Would you please consider the above comments and make any changes you feel are appropriate. Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 02:29, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The is a typo that does not properly resolve ... it causes a red "Template:Factt" in the article; this was corrected a few revisions ago. Why did you restore it?
 * In the Feeder patterns section, you added the word "Currently". This was also removed a few edits ago because the word "currently" is redundant and unnecessary. Every statement in a Wiki article is the current status unless it specifically references a date or time.
 * The already exists in the infobox and is not needed at the end of the article. In fact, its presence there causes a double overwrite at the top of the article. It too was removed in an earlier revision.
 * Why was the tag removed?
 * Thanks for the updates. Truthanado (talk) 02:16, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Elizabeth High School (New Jersey)
Hi, I have carried out a revert to correct the name of the principal which I have checked here. However, I am uncertain about the addition of:

"Boys Soccer team (Varsity & JV, Union County Champions 2005)".

Please would you check it and reinsert it if it is correct? TerriersFan (talk) 02:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

You are invited!
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, and have salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the last meeting's minutes).

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In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and (weather permitting) hold a late-night astronomy event at Columbia's telescopes.

You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Meetup/NYC/Invite list.

You're also invited to subscribe to the public Wikimedia New York City mailing list, which is a great way to receive timely updates. This has been an automated delivery because you were on the invite list. BrownBot (talk) 02:15, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

You are invited!
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, and have salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the last meeting's minutes).

Well also make preparations for our exciting Wikipedia Takes Manhattan event, a free content photography contest for Columbia University students planned for Friday March 28 (about 2 weeks after our meeting).

In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and (weather permitting) hold a late-night astronomy event at Columbia's telescopes.

You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Meetup/NYC/Invite list.

You're also invited to subscribe to the public Wikimedia New York City mailing list, which is a great way to receive timely updates. This has been an automated delivery because you were on the invite list. BrownBot (talk) 02:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC) 72.148.209.49 (talk) 01:17, 7 March 2008 (UTC) was here. :)

Holy Cross Secondary School (St. Catharines)
Hi, can you take a look at this? I have been trying to keep it clean (the content is unsourced anyway) but an IP is insisting on including what seems to me to be unsourced hyperbole and colour. I should appreciate an independent opinion. TerriersFan (talk) 01:49, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of 4Chosen
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Annie Lee Moss
I would be delighted to engage in a discussion with you about the value of the edits I reverted here. I would especially enjoy it if, unlike the other editor involved, you know how to read English. Start a new section on the article's talk page and we can begin. RedSpruce (talk) 16:22, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

edit summary comments
Please do not make edits with blatantly dishonest edit summary comments like this one. You have shown some sign of following the issues involved here, and if that is the case then you know full well that there has been nothing approaching a "consensus". Indeed, due to RAN's (and your) refusal to engage in meaningful dialog, there hasn't even been any real discussion yet. RedSpruce (talk) 10:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Taquan Dean
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Help with category placement
I noticed you took out a few sub categories that I placed. The reason I did it was because if you go here: Category:Seaside resorts in the United States, there are several towns there listed as a subcategory that are seaside resorts in the US. Would a proper subcategory for this only be a more refined one like a state, such as seaside resorts in Florida? If so, then the other ones that are just towns & cities should be removed as well. I'll remove them if so. - Marc Averette (talk) 15:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * As an example, The Wildwoods are a series of shore resort communities in New Jersey, most of which have "Wildwood" in their name; Each of these communities are shore communities, so Category:Seashore resorts in the United States is appropriate. If you look at Category:The Wildwoods, New Jersey, there are entries for Wildwood Catholic High School and for Tramcar (Wildwood), both of which are for articles related to The Wildwoods. Category:The Wildwoods, New Jersey includes the parent catgeory Cape May County, United States, whcih makes sense, as every place, school and tramcar in The Wildwoods is part of the surrounding county. However, while all of the places are Seashore communities, the High school and the tramcar are not; The Category:Seashore resorts in the United States does not apply to anything other than places, and that's why it was removed. What could be done, and could also be done with similar multi-community resorts in Florida, is to develop an intermediate category, in this case called "Places in the Wildwoods, New Jersey", which would then have both Cape May County AND Seashore resorts in the US as parent categories. Without that the parent category would not belong. I hope this example helps. Please let me know if I can help further on this issue. Alansohn (talk) 16:31, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Apparently there's a big problem then. I've looked at many different categories.  Here's one example Category:Virginia Beach, Virginia.  Notice how the categories listed for that category are Category:Cities in Virginia and Category:Seaside resorts in the United States, yet there are many different articles on highways, schools, etc. within that aren't cities or resorts.  Is this something that needs to be corrected?  -  Marc Averette (talk) 01:49, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Dave Robinson
Dave Robinson was born in Mount Holly at Burlington County Memorial Hospital but he was never a resident of that town because he did not live there. After leaving the hospital in 1941 he lived with his family across from the school and near the Mount on Mt. Laurel-Hainesport Road, Mount Laurel, NJ 08054 until 1959. The information in this link supports my position which I know is accurate: http://www.americola.com/sites/Dave_Robinson It states: "Dave Robinson (born May 3, 1941) was a former American Football player in the NFL and College. He lived in Mount Laurel, New Jersey and attended Moorestown High School, graduating June 1959." Robert M. Hunt (talk) 00:04, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

"I have looked for credible evidence supporting my contention that Dave Robinson was a resident of Mount Laurel, not Mount Holly. Last January, Dave Robinson and I had several conversations at the MHS Parents Football Banquet in Moorestown. That evening he informed me that he and Bill Connell, a life-long resident of Mount Laurel, went to kindergarten together in Mount Laurel. I had known that Dave and Bill were close neighbors but didn't know that they were classmates in kindergarten. Later that evening Bill confirmed the kindergarten account to me. I knew then that Dave Robinson had been a resident of Mount Laurel from the age of five to eighteen when he moved to State College, PA as a Penn State student. But the question remained where was he a resident before the age of five?"

"I knew that Ethel Robinson Lawrence, who is Dave's older sister, was the lead plaintiff in the famous Mount Laurel Decision. Both she and Dave's mother, Mary Robinson, are documented in numerous articles and books. A key aspect of the litigation was the fact that the Robinson family had lived in Mount Laurel for generations. Among Mount Laurel residents this fact was well known, frequently discussed, and often written about. Here is a link to one of many documents that supports this fact: Tribute to Ethel Robinson Lawrence It states: 'Ethel was the second of eight children born to Mary and Leslie Robinson. At the time, Mount Laurel, in Burlington County, was a rural enclave of farms. Most residents were white, but there was a small black population. Ethel Lawrence was among them. The family resided in Mount Laurel for over six generations.' This information is credible and answers the question. Dave Robinson was a resident of Mount Laurel from infancy until he attended kindergarten. Thus, he was a resident of Mount Laurel from the day he came home from the hospital until the day he departed for college."

"Examination of the history of edits for the Mount Holly Township article reveals that the addition of Dave Robinson as a notable resident was made last February 24 by an anonymous contributor. Furthermore, the reference states that Dave was born in Mount Holly, which is true, but nothing about his place of residence. Unfortunately, both you and the original contributor have assumed that Dave Robinson was also a resident of Mount Holly. And you have not- and will not because it does not exist- provide any evidence that he was ever a resident of Mount Holly."

"Therefore, the appropriate action is for you to remove the erroneous information in the Mount Holly article regarding Dave Robinson." Robert M. Hunt (talk) 01:31, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Paul G. Gaffney II
Number 106 (12 create/expand - 94 nominations)

Underwood-Memorial Hospital
Hi again- I created this article last night but I don't feel too good about it for some reason. Could you look it over and improve upon/correct it if necessary? UMH deserves a page for sure, but I just feel like there's so much more I could have done. I think a lot of it has to do with me not really understanding healthcare and/or hospital procedures yet (after all, I am still only in college). Thanks in advance. Jrcla2 (talk) 22:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Abusive Posting
I believe you are mistaken, and are not authorized to give anyone "final warnings" or otherwise threaten anyone about anything. The case which you cite involved a deletion debate, and was closed a long time ago. I promise to exercise the utmost care to abide by all Wikipedia policies. I suggest that you reexamine your own behavior and promise to abide by all Wikipedia policies as well. Please do not post on my talk page in the future. Thank you. Racepacket (talk) 21:15, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you did not understand my request -- Please do not post on my talk page. Repeating your erroneous, and baseless accusations in response to the above message a second time does not lead to constructive Wikipedia editing.  Trying to start an edit war on my talk page reflects unfavorably on your judgment. Thank you. Racepacket (talk) 21:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

USRD Newsletter - Issue 3

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"Number 57"
I saw where you defended Stephen King (soccer) (thanks). But the high-on-himself Number 57 (read his bio, he refers to himself in the third person - who does that??) is at it again with the AfD. I simply do not understand how SK is not notable, not only for being on the Chicago Fire team, but also for all of his accomplishments in high school and college leading up to his draft selection. Very few soccer players can ever say they've been on Olympic Development teams, the U-15 national team, win a high school state championship AND a college national championship, etc. 57's tag is complete bull-ish. If there is ANY justice in the Wikipedia world it will be obvious that he's wrong. Also, his post on my discussion wall seems patronizing. Jrcla2 (talk) 17:19, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Love handles
I see you removed the redirect from Love handles, as I have been doing the past few days. It seems that User:However whatever is adamant that this must be a redirect, despite what seems to be heading towards consensus that it shouldn't. Would you care to contribute to the Request for Comment on the talk page, please? -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 16:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Muffin top
Hi there. I see you've removed the Merge Proposal from the Muffin top article. Given that certain users seem determined to continuously merge this and Love handles into Central obesity I wonder if that isn't a little premature? -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 15:11, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess the same could be said for the Love handles article. You do realise that there's every chance that the article is going to keep being merged despite this? ;-)  For what it's worth, I raised the issue here yesterday. --  JediLofty User ¦ Talk 15:26, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:Anthony_Chiappone.jpg
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Jonathan Dayton High School
The changing of the literary magazine's name from Melopoeia to Jargon was not vandalism. I am editor-in-chief of the literary magazine and can assure you that there has been a name change. In the future, I suggest you not be so hasty to delete other people's edits when their knowledge of the subject matter is better than yours is.