User talk:Aldebaran69/Archive 11

Wrong image?
Hello! I just though you may be interested in this discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Princess_Wilhelmine_of_Baden I noticed you added that image to the article again, but, looking at the fashion of the image, it is the fashion of the 1780s, which could not be the person of the article, who was born in 1788. When Wilhelmine was an adult, the fashion was enormously different than in that picture. Perhaps it was another Wilhelmine of Baden? Royalty often had the same names. Or perhaps the picture was simply given the wrong name? --Aciram (talk) 14:53, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


 * My mistake, I only take the picture from the German wikipedia, sorry about that Aldebaran69 (talk) 22:39, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

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Massive additions to Louis IV of France
Can you explain to me what the section "Deposition of Charles III the Simple" has to do with Louis IV? I have read that section and it makes no mention at all about Louis. Can you explain to me why this information should not be removed?

Also, can you explain why you have added paragraphs of information with no sources? Why this information should not be removed as well? --Kansas Bear (talk) 06:07, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

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Ottoman history
Hi. Could you provide the sources you rely on for the changes you make on Ottoman biographical articles? This one seems especially dubious...--Phso2 (talk) 08:21, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Unreliable source
I do not believe Roglo is considered a reliable source. However, if you do not agree, you can ask here. --Kansas Bear (talk) 03:00, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

File:Princess Monika of Hanover.jpg
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Citing unreliable source
I am concerned that you are adding unreliable sources to articles. I first came across one when you added to James FitzJames, 1st Duke of Berwick with this edit.
 * genealogy.euweb.cz
 * geneall.net

I presume that you added those sites to explain the comment I have added to the talk page talk:James FitzJames, 1st Duke of Berwick
 * @User:Aldebaran69 on 9 November 2014 you added a lot of information to this article without any citations to a reliable source. Please add some (CHALLENGE). -- PBS (talk) 09:52, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Did you really find that information on those pages? As you know I raised the issue of those two sites at Reliable_sources/Noticeboard. What makes you think that either of those sites meet the Wikipedia criteria as described on the policy page WP:V, or the guideline page WP:RS?

Looking through you more recent edits I also spotted that you made an edit on the 1 August 2016 where you added information to the article Dorothea of Anhalt-Zerbst] that was supported by an citation to ww-person.com (11 August 2016).

I checked and ww-person.com is only found the following articles: All of the citations to that website ww-person.com were added by you. I also noticed while compiling this list that you are using other websites of a similar quality. Please explain how you decide what is and is not a website that meets the requirements of WP:V.
 * Jeanne d'Albret (28 July 2016)
 * Dorothea of Anhalt-Zerbst (11 August 2016)
 * Princess Carolina of Orange-Nassau (15 July 2016)
 * Peter von Biron (8 February 2016)
 * Ludowika Margaretha of Zweibrücken-Bitsch (17 February 2016)
 * George III, Count of Erbach-Breuberg (17 February 2016) You also made an edit to this page on 14 April 2015 where you added a lot of information based on http://genealogy.euweb.cz
 * Clara Maria of Pomerania-Barth (11 August 2016)
 * Duchess Elisabeth Sophie of Mecklenburg 11 August 2016)
 * Dorothea von Medem 8 February 2016)

Two editors who I noticed has edited one of the pages you did (Princess Carolina of Orange-Nassau: Revision history) have an interest in similar pages User:DrKay(Editor Interaction Analyser) and user:FactStraight (Editor Interaction Analyser), they are experienced editors who I know in passing, so I am inviting them to add their thoughts.

-- PBS (talk) 22:02, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

October 2016
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I noticed your recent edit to Charles V of France does not have an edit summary.&#32;Please be sure to provide a summary of every edit you make, even if you write only the briefest of summaries. The summaries are very helpful to people browsing an article's history.

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See WP:ANI
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. PBS (talk) 12:11, 9 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I have replied to your posting on WP:ANI. I suggest that you reply there. --PBS (talk) 19:41, 11 October 2016 (UTC)


 * At the recent WP:ANI section now archived Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive935 you agreed not to base edits on Wikipedia unreliable sources (as requested by Kansas Bear and my self) and to add appropriate comments to edit histories as requested by Eric.

It goes without saying that simply adding text to articles without citing a reliable source as you did here

Some of the unreliable sites that you have used in the past were raised at the ANI (by me): By Kansas Bear with an edit to the article Sophie Elisabeth of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Wiesenburg (diff 9 October 2016)
 * http://geneall.net
 * http://genealogy.euweb.cz
 * http://ww-person.com
 * http://wwperson.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
 * http://www.royaltyguide.nl
 * http://genealogy.euweb.cz

This is not a definitive list of unreliable sources, if you are unsure if a source is reliable ask at WP:RSN and do not use it unless others tell you it is reliable.

Related to this are several other issues: "Louis IV was crowned King by Artald, Archbishop of Rheims, on Sunday 19 June 936,"
 * Adding content without citing a reliable source is not acceptable did here (diff 10 March 2016)
 * with this edit (diff 12 March 2016) you not only added content without citing a reliable source you also inserted text before a citation to a reliable source making it appear to a reader that the fact was supported by the reliable source. In such a situation you must add a reliable source to cover all the additional text including the facts added before a sentence covered by a reliable source:

In all Kansas Bear raised seven examples of this sort of behaviour on his posting to this talk page on 12 March 2016 (diff). Do not add text (other than trivial changes) without adding reliable sources to back up the changes.

The reason why adding text to articles without citations to reliable sources is discouraged is because back before such behaviour was encouraged about 10 years ago, the press had a field day finding Wikipedia articles that contained nonsense and other types of inaccuracies. Many articles were published in the news media often quoting university professors on how unreliable Wikipedia was. Since citing reliable sources for much of the text added to Wikipedia since then these types of criticisms have greatly diminished.

For example anyone can add information to a blog page or a genealogical page, most of such people are not either experts in genealogical studies or professional historians, and so we (Wikipedia editors) have no way of checking whether what they have on their sites is correct. Sometimes there are unreliable sources that cite reliable ones. One that I use occasionally is Darral Lundy's thepeerage.com but I do it through using WP:SAYWHEREYOUREADIT. This is because while his site is not reliable, his sources may be. Here is an example: James Hamilton (English army officer).

Is all of this clear to you? If not then please ask some questions.

If you remove this posting without further comment then it is reasonable to assume that you will abide by that which you agreed in the recent ANI and that you do not object to anything I have written here.

-- PBS (talk) 14:01, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Reply placed on the talk page of PBS:
 * All the complains are prior to the last talk topic where I was mentioned; since them I avoided to uses genealogical sites to any article...if was imperative to delete all the references with genealogical sites, please be free to do it. Thanks for your concern. Aldebaran69 (talk) 22:42, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Uncited information added to Children of Palhavã
Looking at your edit history. The last substantial edit was to the article Children of Palhavã (diff) at 22:45, 18 October 2016.

In this edit you removed the text "his mother was an unknown French lady" and replaced it with "his mother was Luísa Inês Antónia Machado Monteiro" -- PBS (talk) 11:51, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) what was your reliable source for that change?
 * 2) Why did you not add that source to support the edit?


 * I added the following comment here (diff) on the 23 October 2016:

Looking at your edit history. The last substantial edit was to the article Children of Palhavã (diff) at 22:45, 18 October 2016.
 * In this edit you removed the text "his mother was an unknown French lady" and replaced it with "his mother was Luísa Inês Antónia Machado Monteiro"
 * what was your reliable source for that change?
 * Why did you not add that source to support the edit?

The reply to my talk page was:  I added the information from the Portuguese and English wikipedia artices of King John V of Portugal (father of the Children of Palhavã). Aldebaran69 (talk) 21:57, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * You should leave the post on your on talk page and answer it there. Eric talk 01:28, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

I do not fully agree with Eric, you may leave you posts another's talk page, but you should not delete the others post from your page until the discussion is ended, because it makes it impossible for an interested third party to follow the conversation. If you were to start to hold a conversation Eric (as an interested party, to this conversation) over on his talk page, then trying to follow the conversation over three pages or more would be very confusing. So please do not delete this conversation until about a week has passed since the last comment in the exchange (whether you reply here or on my talk page).

You say: "I added the information from the Portuguese and English Wikipedia articles of King John V of Portugal" The Wikipedia article John V of Portugal in English or Portuguese is not a reliable source see WP:CIRCULAR. You may copy information from one Wikipedia source to another providing it is backed up with a reliable source, but in that case copy over the citation to a reliable source as well. Also see WP:PATT in Copying within Wikipedia, if you copy text from one Wikipedia article to another say so in the edit history (by adding a link to the original article).

In this case it is not clear if the clause "John fathered at least four children from various extramarital affairs: António of Braganza, by Luísa Inês Antónia Machado Monteiro ..." is supported by the citaiton later in the paragraph, but WikiBlame is a useful tool for searching the history of an article. In this case the search turns up Revision as of 23:46, 14 June 2014 by user:Cristiano Tomás. So the text may have a citaiton that covers it, but it is probably a good idea to ask Cristiano if it does, before extracting information from one Wikipedia article and adding it to another (Along with the citation to a reliable source). -- PBS (talk) 21:16, 25 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I didn't delete the posts, they are placed in the archive whom I created for year 2016...I made this with the purpose to kept my user talk page with too much information; to anybody who could follow the conversation it's just easy, entered in the 2016 archive and you can find the recent posts on the botton of the page; however, because you're soo worried about to follow this issue, I left this for one week, and after this I moved to the archive 2016. Aldebaran69 (talk) 01:22, 26 October 2016 (UTC)


 * By the way, I found this pages who mentioned the maternity of the Children of Palhavã: They are reliable or not? Aldebaran69 (talk) 01:30, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I think it better that taking into account WP:SOURCE and WP:RS that you tell me which of those sources you think is the most reliable and why. -- PBS (talk) 22:39, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, I think that the first is the better one who could be considered a reliable source. Aldebaran69 (talk) 22:45, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * If you look at the website https://www.academia.edu/ and https://www.academia.edu/signup anyone can sign up! This makes it a blog site, because there is no editorial oversight. The only possible way that this could be considered a reliable source (see WP:SOURCE) is if the creator of the work is considered reliable. To be reliable the author would need to be verified and a well known expert (in this case a professional historian) of the Portuguese royal family, or that period in Portuguese history. How do you know that the person who published this is called Rita Esteves and that if you can know that that this Rita Esteves a recognised expert (see also WP:SCHOLARSHIP)? -- PBS (talk) 07:47, 29 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Well, Ok I kept my search of sources. Aldebaran69 (talk) 22:31, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I am sorry I do not understand your last comment. Do you mean that you will look for a reliable source? Have you asked user:Cristiano Tomás who's information you copied if their source covers this fact? -- PBS (talk) 08:18, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Edits while continuing the discussion over edit to Children of Palhavã

 * See User talk:Aldebaran69/Archive 10

I questioned your addition to Children of Palhavã in the previous section where you added information without a source. I now see that while we are discussing this issue you are adding text to articles that do not seem to meet the standards and actions you explicitly agreed in the ANI conversation that we had (Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive935}  @Aldebaran69 Creating article using such unreliable sources is damaging to the reputation of Wikipedia. In future: -- PBS (talk) 18:08, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) will you only reliable sources to back up text that you use to create articles and add additional text to articles?
 * 2) If you are unsure if a source is reliable before you use it will you post to WP:RSN for conformation?

@PBS Thanks for your kind suggestions. I try to followed in the future to avoid problems. Aldebaran69 (talk) 21:15, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * @user:Aldebaran69 will you also add meaningful edit summaries as requested by user:Eric? -- PBS (talk) 21:28, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I wrote a summary to every edit made in the past few days to avoid problems. Thanks Aldebaran69 (talk) 21:31, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Will you continue to do so? -- PBS (talk) 21:33, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Of course, if was needed, and only to small edits...when I made translations I put on the article the under construction template.Aldebaran69 (talk) 22:28, 11 October 2016 (UTC)


 * 22:53, 29 October 2016 (+5)‎ . . Duchess Sibylle of Saxe-Lauenburg ‎
 * 22:31, 29 October 2016 (+144)‎ . . User talk:Aldebaran69 ‎
 * 02:09, 29 October 2016 (+57)‎ (diff). . Ferdinand Charles, Archduke of Austria ‎
 * 01:32, 29 October 2016 (+7)‎ . . Margaret Theresa of Spain ‎
 * 01:06, 29 October 2016 (+548)‎ (diff) . . Maria Antonia of Austria ‎
 * 00:56, 29 October 2016 (-136)‎ . . Margaret Theresa of Spain ‎
 * 00:55, 29 October 2016 (-77)‎ . . Margaret Theresa of Spain ‎
 * 00:54, 29 October 2016 (diff) . . (0)‎ . . Margaret Theresa of Spain ‎
 * 00:53, 29 October 2016 (+2,236)‎ . . Margaret Theresa of Spain ‎
 * 00:34, 29 October 2016 (+158)‎ . . Margaret Theresa of Spain ‎
 * 00:30, 29 October 2016 (+60)‎ . . File:1671 Margarita.jpg ‎ (current)
 * 00:29, 29 October 2016 (+1)‎ . . Margaret Theresa of Spain ‎
 * 00:28, 29 October 2016 (+148)‎ . . N File:1671 Margarita.jpg ‎ (Empress Margarita Teresa and her daughter Maria Antonia Benjamin Block Hofburg Palace, Vienna)
 * 00:28, 29 October 2016 (+39)‎ . . User:Aldebaran69/sandbox ‎ (current) [rollback: more than 10 edits]
 * 00:26, 29 October 2016 (-1)‎ . . Margaret Theresa of Spain ‎
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 * 23:30, 28 October 2016 (+1,087)‎ . . Margaret Theresa of Spain ‎
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 * 22:50, 28 October 2016 (+671)‎ . . Margaret Theresa of Spain ‎
 * 22:45, 28 October 2016 (+260)‎ . . User talk:Aldebaran69 ‎
 * 22:37, 28 October 2016 (0)‎ . . Margaret Theresa of Spain ‎
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 * 02:23, 28 October 2016 (+6,287)‎ . . Margaret Theresa of Spain ‎
 * 00:48, 28 October 2016 (+4,394)‎ . . Margaret Theresa of Spain ‎
 * 22:05, 26 October 2016 (+46)‎ (diff. . Charles, Landgrave of Hesse-Wanfried ‎
 * 22:00, 26 October 2016 (+55)‎ . . Charles, Landgrave of Hesse-Wanfried ‎
 * 21:54, 26 October 2016 (-13)‎ . . George III, Landgrave of Hesse-Itter ‎ (current) [rollback: 4 edits]
 * 21:54, 26 October 2016 (+207)‎ . . George III, Landgrave of Hesse-Itter ‎
 * 21:48, 26 October 2016 (0)‎ . . George III, Landgrave of Hesse-Itter ‎
 * 21:46, 26 October 2016 (+18)‎ . . George III, Landgrave of Hesse-Itter ‎
 * 21:43, 26 October 2016 (+3)‎ (diff). . George II, Landgrave of Hesse-Darmstadt ‎
 * 01:31, 26 October 2016 (-1)‎ . . User talk:Aldebaran69 ‎
 * 01:30, 26 October 2016 (+632)‎ . . User talk:Aldebaran69 ‎
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 * 01:22, 26 October 2016 (+557)‎ . . User talk:Aldebaran69 ‎
 * 22:33, 24 October 2016 (+227)‎ . . Infanta Maria Cristina of Spain (1833–1902) ‎

Not one of the edits you have made above has any text in the history to describe what it was that you were adding to the article (something you have explicitly agreed to do).


 * 3. Change of fact no source for the change.
 * 5. Addition of a Google book source -- Google books can be assumed to be reliable providing it is not self published. It is a good idea to use the Google book tool to converts bare url into cite book format.
 * 30–6. covers edits to the article Margaret Theresa of Spain. You added several sources:
 * http://thepeerage.com/p10307.htm#i103061 --This is not a reliable source. But it may be used via WP:SAYWHEREYOUREADIT:
 * cites
 * http://www.habsburger.net/en/chapter/philip-iv-marriage-and-offspring -- It says on the about page: "The World of the Habsburgs is the product of an initiative by the Austrian federal government and is contained in the government programmes for 2007 and 2008...." which means that the content of the web can be assumed to be reliable for the purposes of Wikipedia. However before using this source given your inability to judge what is a reliable web source you should have asked at WP:RSN for clarification.
 * http://cvc.cervantes.es/literatura/criticon/PDF/084-085/084-085_315.pdf -- is probably a reliable source, but I can not tell again you should have used WP:RSN to check.
 * https://books.google.ru/books?id=GM0qAQAAMAAJ&dq=Gladys+Taylor&hl=ru&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi1h6DN5M_OAhWBWywKHQGEDzQQ6AEIUzAI -- this is a reliable source. It citaiton would benefit by being run thorough Google book tool
 * Directmedia seems to be a reliable publisher, but why use the "&hl=ru" flag? and not let google books present publishing details etc in default to the language of the reader? using turns the citation into . How did you extract the information in English from a Russian book?
 * http://vienadirecto.com/2012/10/27/la-ultima-emperatriz-espanola-margarita-teresa-en-el-hofburg/ -- this is not a reliable source (see http://vienadirecto.com/acerca-de-mi/). Why did not not use WP:RSN to check?
 * http://eprints.ucm.es/8054/1/T29305.pdf -- you should have included the ISBN 978-84-692-0043-8
 * http://www.nm.cz/index.php?xSET=lang&xLANG=2 would appear to be a reliable publisher.
 * http://eprints.ucm.es/8054/1/T29305.pdf you have used the same source twice the only difference is the page number (see WP:CITE on how to handle this issue.
 * http://www.masmasculino.com/revista-masculina/AZUL-MENINAS.html what makes you think that http://www.masmasculino.com/ is a reliable source? Why did you not ask as WP:RSN?
 * http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/081205/K120508AU.html -- dead link.
 * http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonydemarco/2013/04/16/34-carat-pink-diamond-fetches-nearly-40-million/#4a0a72f86248 -- seems to me to be a reliable source BUT it does not support the text Your text "" what it accentually says is "". There is no mention of 2013 which you word implies that since there has been a higher one and it only mentions sales at Christie's not all sales.
 * https://books.google.ru/books?id=pSF_IuTjZ2UC --Again why are you using the "&hl=ru" flag? so that all the google text appears in Russian?
 * https://books.google.ru/books?id=dXpxPt3s3AAC&pg=PA48 --Again why are you using the "&hl=ru" flag? so that all the google text appears in Russian?
 * http://web.archive.org/web/20040828110347/http://www.seacex.es/documentos/13_cortes_barr_polleros.pdf -- what makes you think that Friedrich Polleross or the website http://www.seacex.es/ (which is down at the moment) are reliable sources?
 * http://www.europeanasounds.eu/news/pomp-and-circumstance-the-baroque-opera-il-pomo-doro -- this is probably a reliable source for the facts it gives, but not all EU money goes to reputable websites, so this should have gone to WP:RSN
 * http://www.habsburger.net/en/chapter/party-time-marriage-leopold-i-and-margarita-spain -- see above
 * http://www.hiddenmuseum.net/fruehe_gebaermaschinen.html -- what makes you think that this is a reliable source?
 * https://www.deutsche-biographie.de/gnd118730991.html#ndbcontent -- in my opinion this is a reliable source
 * https://books.google.com.pe/books?id=4ZhAAAAAcAAJ -- why the flag &hl=es putting the google text into Spanish?
 * http://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/eleonora-gonzaga-nevers-imperatrice_%28Dizionario-Biografico%29/ -- This seems to be a reliable source, BUT I do not see where in the source is supports the information you added "" but my understanding is via Google translate so please quote the sentences in the text that do.
 * http://tourism.khm.at/fileadmin/content/TOURISMUS/downloads/KHM_Velazquez_FF.pdf -- this would seem to be a reliable source for the picture in the museum, but it can not be used to support the rest of the text you added to the paragraph. This makes many of you contributions questionable if the source you cite (particularly a foreign language source) does not cover the text you add for example where in the cited text does it support ""
 * https://www.museodelprado.es/en/the-collection/art-work/las-meninas/9fdc7800-9ade-48b0-ab8b-edee94ea877f -- where does the source support the sentence that starts "? I notice it says "Since then the painting has never lost its status as a masterpiece." but that is not support of your statement.
 * http://www.museodelprado.es/coleccion/obras-de-arte?search=La%20infanta%20doña%20Margarita%20de%20Austria%20MARTÍNEZ%20DEL%20MAZO,%20JUAN%20BAUTISTA -- although the citation supports the sentence immediately before it "" it does not support the preceding sentences in the paragraph. So you need to add a for the text in the paragraph before the supported sentence, otherwise it is misleading to a reader.
 * http://www.khm.at/de/objektdb/detail/2323/ -- This citaiton is similar to the last one because it does not support for example these sentence "". What is the citaiton that supports "most of which are stored in the collections of the Kunsthistorisches Museum in Vienna"?
 * http://www.khm.at/objektdb/detail/2324/?offset=4&lv=list&cHash=2b15c05f32b622de938d054b22ebe4f8 -- seems reliable and support the text.
 * http://internationalportraitgallery.blogspot.ru/2014_12_01_archive.html -- AFAICT not reliable ask at WP:RSN -- and does not support the text of ""
 * 31–32 (diff) you added facts to an article without a citation to back them up.
 * 33–36 (diff) you made a change that added a child without a citation to back it up.
 * 37 you added a fact to an article without a citation to back it up.

What are you going to change and fix? -- PBS (talk) 12:26, 30 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I translated from the Russian article of Empress Margaret Theresa who seems to be a good article according to Wikipedia standards. If you think that I'm doing a bad job or I'm not qualified to continue to do it, please be free to reverse the editions I made, or, in the case you don't wanted, I'm gladly do it. Aldebaran69 (talk) 01:07, 31 October 2016 (UTC)


 * And, about your complain 33–36 (diff) you made a change that added a child without a citation to back it up.: the article had a source who showed an stillborn daughter (royaltyguide); now I added geneall.net to further clarification. Thanks Aldebaran69 (talk) 01:17, 31 October 2016 (UTC)


 * And, about your complain 37 you added a fact to an article without a citation to back it up.: I only searched another page from the the page cited (cur | prev) 03:56, 15 November 2015‎ Iamthecheese44 (talk | contribs)‎ . . (7,466 bytes) (+431)‎ . . ((edited with ProveIt)) (undo | thank) and put the dates of birth and death. If you had a complain about that page, please do it to Iamthecheese44, not only me. Aldebaran69 (talk) 01:22, 31 October 2016 (UTC)


 * And, about your complain 31–32 (diff) you added facts to an article without a citation to back them up.: I added a German source to the article; this was my mistake I think I do it but I didn't watched carefully. Aldebaran69 (talk) 01:29, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Reliable sources
In a posting you your page user:Kansas Bear asked:
 * Geneall.net is not a reliable source. Therefore, nothing should be taken from an unreliable source and added to Wikipedia articles. AND, why do you think Die Durchläuchtige Welt, Oder: Kurtzgefaßte Genealogische published in 1739 is a reliable source? --Kansas Bear (talk) 06:08, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

I agree with Kansas Bear http://Geneall.net is not a reliable sources and you ought to take any sources you are not sure about to WP:RSN as was agreed previously.

However I think that a book published in 1793 can be a reliable source. If however more recent scholarship can be found that contradicts it then the more recent scholarship ought to be used.

In both cases if you disagree with the opinions of another editor, then discuss it at WP:RSN in the hope of building a consensus over whether the source is or is not a Wikipedia reliable one. -- PBS (talk) 22:48, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

"Re: Harassment to my account"
I am not sure why you archived the discussion we were having on this page without waiting a least a week after to last posting the the section. You certainly did not leave long enough for me to consider my reply to your and post it.

You wrote to the talk page of user:Callanecc
 * "Hi Callanecc, I have a questions: who are the steps to made a complain about some users who believed that translation from featured articles from other language Wikipedia articles to English Wikipedia was always wrong?? " (diff at 02:33, 2 November 2016)

However referring to the exchange on your talk page that you have deleted, and the ANI to which it refers, you made 24 edits to Margaret Theresa of Spain between 28th and 31st of October 2016‎  history without one comment yet you had promised in the recent ANI to do so.

It is only because of the questions ask of you on your talk page that it is public knowledge among those who read your talk page that you copied the text from another wikipedia language. This is a breach of copyright see Copying within Wikipedia more specifically the sections: "Attribution is required for copyright", "Proper attribution" and "Translating from other language Wikimedia projects" also see Reusing Wikipedia content


 * 1) Fix your copyright violation as soon as you can (if having read the guidance this is not clear then ask at Wikipedia talk:Copyright problems for clarification and/or  help).
 * 2) Have you ever copied any information from another Wiki without providing proper attribution?
 * 3) Do not make any more article edits before you fix the copyright violation(s) you have created.

If you do not fix you copyright violation or answer the question in point 2. I will take administrative action.

-- PBS (talk) 21:40, 2 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I didn't known that the translation from another wikipedia article to English needs an atribution: I made for the last 8 years without any complain until now (for example, from Polish to English wikipedia); concerning about your thread to take administrative action don't worry, i won't translated any other article for the sake of copyright violation -- you can be in peace now. Thanks Aldebaran69 (talk) 00:27, 3 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Ready, I put in the edit summary of Empress Margaret Theresa an hyperlink who directed to the article, following the requirements of WP:COPYWITHIN. Aldebaran69 (talk) 00:36, 3 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I also made ammended the article of Empress Maria Anna with my previous translation, but now placing the hyperlink following the requirements of WP:COPYWITHIN. Aldebaran69 (talk) 23:46, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Copying from a foreign language Wikiepdia does not necessarily meet the content requirements of English Wikipedia
From the edit you left on the talk page of User :Kansas Bear (diff) at 02:19, 2 November 2016) .I also see that Maria Anna of Spain is a copy from the Russian Wikipeida for which you did not give a"Proper attribution". To answer you question different language Wikipedia use different criteria for what is a good article and featured articles. For example the German Wikipedia gave the article Battle of Ligny featured article status although it had no inline citations at all (it now carries just one which is one that I added!). In contrast the English article carries one of more citations for just about every paragraph. Which article the German or English comes closer to meeting the English Wikipedia content policies? Specifically WP:NOR and WP:V? -- PBS (talk) 22:37, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Contributor copyright investigation request
I have filed a Contributor copyright investigation that involves you. See Contributor copyright investigations. -- PBS (talk) 22:02, 4 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks, and I'm sorry for all the incovenients and my bad mood to answer. I hope that placing the hyperlynk of WP:COPYWITHIN from now could be fixed future problems about translations. Aldebaran69 (talk) 22:17, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Eleonora Gonzaga (1630–1686)
I see from you edit history that you have been editing Eleonora Gonzaga (1630–1686).

In the four edits you have made to date you have not added one edit line comment. This is a breach of what you promised at ANI. You must add edit comments as you implied you would at the October ANI

You have added two short citation to the article without adding long citations. Just because you have added a does not excuse this, breaking of citations. If you add a short citation either add the long citation with the short citation or in the next edit if you can not access the appropriate section during the first edit.

See the section WP:NONENG in the policy WP:V:
 * "However, because this project is in English, English-language sources are preferred over non-English ones when available and of equal quality and relevance."

You used a link to: Yet the website www.habsburger.net also has the same articles in English So when using www.habsburger.net use /www.habsburger.net/en
 * http://www.habsburger.net/de/kapitel/ferdinand-iii-eleonora-von-gonzaga-und-die-italiener-wien
 * http://www.habsburger.net/en/chapter/ferdinand-iii-marriage-and-offspring

I found your format of: Martin Mutschlechner: Ferdinand III., Eleonora von Gonzaga und die Italiener in Wien in: www.habsburger.net [retrieved 04 November 2016] very confusing, because Martin Mutschlechner is the author of the piece but as the format is not standardised like that of the citation which you have used, elsewhere "Martin Mutschlechner:" the colon at the end does not match the delimiter used in that  so I suggest that you use  for such citations.

-- PBS (talk) 13:22, 5 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Ready, hyperlink added to article in edit section, article finished and sources placed in the references section, habsburger.net links changed to english. Aldebaran69 (talk) 22:00, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

is an awful format. For a start you are still including &hl=ru in your url strings which means that you copied it from the Russian page without considering that it is English people reading it (so instead of the Google meta information appearing in English it appears in Russian). This is particularly bizarre in this case as it is in German. If you use the Google book tool Converts bare url into cite book format (as I suggested earlier in the next section) the output will be more usual: This formatter does not pick up that it is in German and the url can be move to the page number so a little hand editing produces this: -- PBS (talk) 08:45, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Bettina Braun, Katrin Keller, Matthias Schnettger: Nur die Frau des Kaisers?: Kaiserinnen in der Frühen Neuzeit, Böhlau ed., Vienna 2016 ISBN 978-3-20-520085-7.

See Talk:Eleonora Gonzaga (1630–1686) where I have added some additional comments addressed to you about this page. -- PBS (talk) 12:51, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

Citation tools
There are a number of tools that can help create templates citations:
 * Google book tool Converts bare url into cite book format
 * yadkard similar to the book tool but for web pages (cite web)

These tools are not fool proof and you may need to alter the output to meet you needs but they speed up the creation of cite book and cite web references.

This is useful for retrospectively changing bare URLs into cite web
 * Wikipedia Reflinks dispenser Reflinks or fengtools/reflinks

Again not fool proof -- some hand alterations may be needed -- but the output is far more useful that bare urls.

See also
 * Linkrot
 * Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver replacements
 * ProveIt GT
 * User:Citation bot available as a gadget
 * [Citoid]

Fix a citation so that it does not go dead:
 * https://archive.org/web/ -- Wayback machine will archive a link if it has not got a copy of it already
 * http://www.webcitation.org -- another on-demand archiving system

-- PBS (talk) 13:22, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Advice
Hi! Regarding translating articles. Would you be so kind to look here: Template:Translated_page. It would be great if you would include this template in the talk pages of translated articles. The parameters version and insertversion would be of great value. Regards. --Re5x (talk) 07:04, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Request
Hi! Is it fine if you can translate this article: es:Príncipe de Asturias into English? (Or at least expand the existing article with information from the Spanish wikipedia). Regards :) --Re5x (talk) 07:13, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Waiting a week
I noticed that you waited less than a day to remove other's comments without a reply, although you well know that it annoys many other editors when you do that. I suggest strongly that you implement the above as it will automate the saving of sections after a week. You can still save by year by incrementing the  at the end of each year. -- PBS (talk) 11:06, 10 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the help...I'm already reply to the user in his talk page, so for this reason and put in archive his comment, but now I'm hope be useful and could work! (I don't very good with templates), but thanks anyway Aldebaran69 (talk) 22:10, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Eleanor of Navarre.jpg


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