User talk:Ale jrb/Archives/May 2011

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Script template messages
An admin recently posted a speedy deletion "contested" template on my talk page using one of your scripts. A couple of points: first, the correct terminology is "declined" for speedy deletion nominations. "Contested" is usually used for PRODs. Second, and more importantly, I find the tone of the message rather patronising (You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages), especially when directed at a long-time user. Perhaps you should revise the text of the script's messages and advise its users not to template the regulars. – ukexpat (talk) 13:04, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello there! :D User:Logan is not an administrator, and as such cannot decline speedy deletions. However, as it is possible for any user to remove a speedy deletion tag from a page, they are in effect contesting it, thus the language in the message. With regards to your second point, users are given the choice when notifying a user whether to use a carefully designed newbie message, or not - the language you object to is only in the newbie message and probably should not have been applied - I suggest you take that up with Logan.
 * On a slightly different issue, I will politely point out a few things. In the future, when bringing accusations up, I suggest you do a little bit of research - otherwise you come across as unprepared, and your concerns run the risk of looking silly. Secondly, I would advise that your trying to lecture an admin with a significant amount of experience in CSD about the CSD process - while at the same time accusing him of being patronising to experienced users - is something you may want to be slightly more cautious about. After all, if they were slightly less good-humoured than I, it might be seen as blatantly hypocritical rather than pleasantly ironic.
 * Perhaps you should revise your concerns, and direct them to the appropriate person. Have a nice day. A le_Jrb talk  14:14, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey - I was the one who contested the speedy (I guess it's a compliment that Ukexpat thought I was a sysop?). In no way was that article promotional/G11-eligible, and the message at the end was completely warranted in this case, as, before tagging pages, one must make sure that the criterion fits with the article in question.
 * Also, Ale jrb, I never noticed that "newbie" checkbox because it isn't inside the box (screenshot). Any chance of fixing that?  I definitely wouldn't have used the newbie message if I knew that such an option existed, especially with Ukexpat's experience.  However, I hope that it does link to the criteria even without the "newbie" message because I feel that it's important to revisit them every once in a while.
 * Hope this explains it! Let me know if you have any further questions. Logan Talk Contributions 19:41, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

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