User talk:Alenoach



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A lengthy welcome
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 * Some other concepts of time, what
 * do you now expect the passage to be about? 103.153.108.242 (talk) 05:45, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Vulnerable world hypothesis (October 14)
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🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 19:34, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Artificial intelligence detection software
Hi - I've started a move discussion over at Talk:Artificial intelligence detection software as per your suggestion. Let me know if the suggested name is best, or any further comments on the move. Thank you! 😊 GnocchiFan (talk) 17:40, 6 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the positive feedback, GnocchiFan. I responded on the article's Talk page. Alenoach (talk) 12:23, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Vulnerable world hypothesis (November 7)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Vulnerable world hypothesis (November 8)
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Artificial Intelligence, Brian Christian, The Alignment Problem
I noticed you changed a few page numbers in artificial intelligence. I think we may be working from different editions of Christian's book. I'm going to check the citation and make sure it's my edition, and then change the page numbers back. I don't plan on changing your rewrites. (Just letting you know in case you're watching the page). Cheers. CharlesTGillingham (talk) 18:05, 3 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi CharlesTGillingham. I used the e-book version from 2020. In this version, p. 110 corresponds to the end of the part "SALIENCY: THE WHITES OF ITS EYES", and 88-91 correspond to all of "THE WRONG RULES" except the last page. Feel free to change the page numbers, as long as it's consistent. Or alternatively, you could also put the section names instead of the page numbers, which may be less ambiguous. Alenoach (talk) 21:56, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

January 2024
Hello, I'm Philipnelson99. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to Glossary of artificial intelligence—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. Philipnelson99 (talk) 02:38, 29 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I didn't notice the added content at the beginning, sorry. Thanks for having fixed it quickly! I should have double-checked for any accidental copy-pasting before publishing the modification. You can check the rest of the contributions, they are serious, so I will add them back if it's ok to you. Alenoach (talk) 02:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * What happened is probably a "Ctrl + F, Ctrl + V" attempt that someway ended up copying the content into the article instead of the search bar. Alenoach (talk) 07:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

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Reinforcement learning from human feedback
Hello. I just wanted to let you know that I reverted your edit on Reinforcement learning from human feedback because it cited an unreliable source. Please see WP:FORBESCON for more info. Happy editing! GrayStorm(Talk&#124;Contributions) 00:07, 27 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the notification. I added back the content, but this time with a source from Analytics India Magazine and one from Ars Technica. Alenoach (talk) 01:00, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Centre for Effective Altruism
I appreciate your point about keeping the lead simple. The problem is the use of CEA's quote without making it clear that it's self-description by proponents. The way to solve it is to use the descriptions of third parties rather than linking to a boosterish website.Essence of nightshade (talk) 22:39, 5 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi Essence of nightshade,
 * I think the fact that it is a quote already suggests that it comes from proponents, which can be easily verified by checking the references. And given that, according to the 2nd reference, it is endorsed by 11 organizations, it seems ok to me to not mention the Centre for Effective Altruism to keep the first sentence easy to digest. I think the quote is a pretty clear description of what effective altruism overall advocates for, despite some failures like with FTX. Even if we supposed that their advocacy is counter-productive or not genuine, it wouldn't necessarily invalidate the fact that they are advocating for it. That's how I see it. But I will probably spend some time on the article this week to reduce the number of sources that come from effective altruists, potentially removing some content at the same time. Alenoach (talk) 07:20, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Vulnerable world hypothesis


Hello, Alenoach. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Vulnerable world hypothesis".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗ plicit  00:03, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Jan Leike
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